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Jean Dit Laforge - Microbrasserie de l'ile d'Orléans

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Jean Dit LaforgeJean Dit Laforge

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BA SCORE
85
very good

19 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 19
Reviews: 14
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 8.14%
Wants: 1
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Microbrasserie de l'ile d'Orléans visit their website
Quebec, Canada

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: ZorPrime on 12-05-2009)
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Photo of Whatup14
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Whatup14, Sep 04, 2014
Photo of biegaman
3.69/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Jean Dit Laforge is the brewery's winter seasonal and looks correspondingly hearty and robust; black, or at least deep brown, in colour and sandwiched beneath a creamy white head, this stout looks something like a liquified OREO cookie (at least for the short time the foam sticks around). While vividly clear and brightly illuminated on the edges, its core is opaque.

This beer wouldn't be out of place in a Tim Hortons or Starbucks; the aroma is markedly cappuccino-like, showcasing a profile of weak coffee and steamed milk. There's also a fine dusting of cinnamon and chai spice that hovers just above the surface, tickling the nose. It's not overly impressive but makes for a pleasant enough introduction.

There's a considerable lactose presence in the mouthfeel; the powdered milk texture and the generic milk chocolate maltiness are particularly reminiscent of Ovaltine (and as a growing boy in an age before protein drinks I know the flavour well). Part and parcel with this taste is the notion of malt extract and, indeed, this has no more depth than a store bought homebrew kit.

Point in case: absent on the palate is the coffee roast and dark chocolate richness one should naturally expect from a 10% stout. And there's really no appreciable hoppiness; some imperial stouts have plenty of citric or resiny bitterness but this isn't really that kind of beer either. Instead, it drinks simply like a thinned out (slightly boozy) milk stout with a raisin-y dried fruit component.

I wish there was some other way to put it, mais il y'a n'a pas: Jean Dit Laforge is a disappointment. For a stout of its specs and size, one brewed with cocoa and vanilla, it fails to deliver anywhere near the level - or even brand - of gratification it should. Microbrasserie de l'ile d'Orléans offer a strong, diverse lineup and this one is far from the best of the bunch.

biegaman, Aug 09, 2014
Photo of Beersnake1
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Beersnake1, May 27, 2014
Photo of tbeckett
3.81/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle calls this a saison. Got it at Peluso in Montreal. From notes.

A - Poured black with a three finger dense mocha head. No lace, film retention.

S - Vanilla, chocolate, dark fruit, a little roast. Nice vanilla character with some leather, but a little weak overall. Almost like they took a weak imperial stout and added a ton of vanilla.

T - Sweet, tobacco, a little funk, vinous, vanilla, lot's of dark fruit, brandy, lot's of milk chocolate.

M - Strong carbonation for the style, which might be a saison or might not be, I'm confused. Full body and a sweet finish.

O/D - The base beer definitely benefitted from the adjuncts on this baby. Vanilla and chocolate added, and guess what? It tastes alot like vanilla and chocolate! You'd never know this was 10% either. Not too shabby. Didn't think it was too magical at first, but it grew on me.

tbeckett, Sep 18, 2013
Photo of liamt07
4/5  rDev +5%

liamt07, May 15, 2013
Photo of Molson2000
4/5  rDev +5%

Molson2000, Apr 27, 2013
Photo of 4ster
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

500ml bottle, sticker date on front says 2011, though not sure when exactly but at least over a year in the bottle. Poured into a large wine glass, slightly chilled.

A: Super dark brown, verging on black. Frothy brown head, quite good build up, settles to a decent bubble lace on top.

S: Right off opening the bottle, and right after the pour, alcohol, fortified wine and plum brandy...as it airs you get a bit more sweet malt and vanilla bean.

T: Starts off with sweet chocolate, not quite milk, but a cheap dark cocoa. Dark fruits and vanilla follow, ending with a sharp roasted bitterness that fades into a burning burst of alcohol.

M: Bursts of intense carbonation intermingled with fiery tongue lashing alcohol, which is remarkable given that for a stout, already a year + old, 10% abv and this hasn't mellowed out in the bottle but seemingly got more ornery while still being a bit thin in body for this much booze. I'd say it's drinking higher than the original 10%abv too. Mouth feel does smooth out a bit if you let it warm up to room temp.

O: Didn't really know what to expect with this one, as I haven't tried a fresh one, and was curious if the aging made for a nice 10% sipping stout, so to that degree I can't say if I'm disappointed or not. Isn't overly complex and like other beers from this brewery they somehow keep making the body just a bit too thin even on heavy beers like this. I'd say also that the carbonation is a bit strange and if there is complexity in this beer it is just overwhelmed right now in the up front carbonation and booze, as there is no room for subtlety here. My review will reflect this one has some age on it....

4ster, Mar 24, 2013
Photo of KalanM
4/5  rDev +5%

KalanM, Nov 29, 2012
Photo of Jeffo
2.93/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Got this one at Peluso in Montreal.

From a 500ml bottle into a snifter.

APPEARANCE: Pours out muddy black and yields a one finger, medium looking, creamy, light mocha colored head with great retention. Head eventually fades to a full wisp. Black body with no carbonation evident. A splotchy wisp remains until the end and leaves touches of lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Roasted malts, dark chocolate and a medicinal note. Either that, or a vegitable note. Either way, it's an odd touch.

TASTE: Roasted malts, as well as dark and caramel malts as well. Dark chocolate at the swallow, then a mild but lingering aftertaste of roasted and caramel sweetness, dark, bitter chocolate, and some light coffee notes. Decent flavor, but not quite bold enough to be memorable. A thicker feel might help as well.

PALATE: Like their Bellarmin, this one is average at best. Slightly lighter body with medium levels of carbonation. Quite creamy smooth on the palate, goes down smooth and finishes slightly dry on the palate. Lighter for sure, and especially for the imperial stout style, but still creamy enough to be passable.

OVERALL: A decent beer, but not quite bold enough and the palate needs to be bigger for the style. Along with their DIPA Bellarmin, this one is one of their better executed beers. L'Ile d'Orleans shows a lot of potential, and if they can beef up the feel of their beers, they'll be one of the more interesting breweries in the province.

Jeffo, Sep 12, 2012
Photo of Kegatron
3.3/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

500 ml bottle into a tulip glass.

Pours initially black, but holding this up to the light actually reveals more of a dark brown body with some ruby highlights shining through here and there, with a couple fingers of dark mocha head that is an almost borderline milk chocolate color. This retains with a rich ½ finger, leaving back a foamy cascade that doesn’t stick much lace to the sides of the glass. Alcohol and charred roast jump out immediately in the aroma, giving way to a layer of bitter smelling citric hops underneath. Sugary notes of chocolate fudge and sweeter vanilla are smooth across the back, helping balance out the nose a bit but this is really showing its alcohol.

The taste is chocolate and vanilla that mingle together up front, before running into a wall of green citrus and intense burnt roast. Unfortunately, it’s these more aggressive aspects of this that linger the strongest in the finish, with a dry, charred, and deeply lingering bitter pithiness. The mouthfeel is fuller bodied, with a mouth filling sharp creaminess that feels a little overcarbonated in spots and actually gives this a bit more of a lighter feel than what it should have. The ABV adds some sharpness to the edges of the flavor profile and then some warmth in the finish but never gets stinging; but this does definitely add intenseness to the hops and roast here. This seems that it could have used a bit more chewiness to the feel overall, to help maybe draw out some more of that needed balancing sweetness.

If you like an Imperial Stout brash and mostly out-of-control, then you probably might find this to be a worthy sipper. It’s got a moderate complexity to it but the alcohol, bitterness, and roast here all combine to give this an intensity that I wasn’t fully comfortable with during the duration of this bottle. A bit more finesse here could have taken this to another level I think.

Kegatron, Dec 14, 2011
Photo of eat
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Jean dit Laforge pours a copious, rocky beige head made of large bubbles. Thin-looking black body. Bits of lacing.

Tons of milk chocolate and vanilla on the nose, almost on par with Southern Tier's Choklat. Big roast malt, dark fruit (blackberry, plum, fig), earthy hops and alcohol.

Big notes of dark chocolate and alcohol hit the tongue up front, though the alcohol remains mostly in check. Roast malt, dark fruit, vanilla cream and soily hops follow. Drying finish lingers with cocoa powder.

Body is too thin for a stout of this size. Light-moderate carbonation, while producing a great head, is a bit too much in the mouth. The flavour would be best-served with a more viscous feel.

Definitely one to include when speaking of the best imperial stouts in Quebec and easily the best offering I've had from this brewery. It would be interesting to age one of these. Worth picking up.

eat, Nov 20, 2011
Photo of TheSevenDuffs
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tasting notes from 12-17-10
Thanks to freud for this beer.
Poured in to brandy snifter.

A - Dark black with a small amount of light brown head.

S - Roasted malts; very sweet with a heavy milk shocolate nose. Slightly noticeable alcohol.

T - Follows the nose. Predominantly sweet roasted malts & chocolate. Light notes of dark fruit and licorice.

M - Medium body, silky & lightly carbonated.

TheSevenDuffs, Dec 22, 2010
Photo of Weebay
4.15/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Apperance - Pours a dark brown, with a small tan head.

Smell - Smells of Burbon and chocolate.

Taste - Full bodied, starts with a pleasent bitter taste goes to vainlla and warms to chocolate. The chocolate taste lingers.

Mouth - smooth and full

A very excellent beer.

Weebay, Aug 16, 2010
Photo of mdfb79
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From 5/21/10 notes. Had at a local DC tasting.

a - Pours a dark brown color with 1 inch of tan head and light carbonation.

s - Smells of dark fruits, malts, chocolate, and roasted malts.

t - Tastes of coffee, roasted malts, chocolate, and dark fruits.

m - Smooth and creamy. Medium to heavy body and low carbonation.

d - A pretty good stout. Nice balance in the taste. Would try again.

mdfb79, Jun 09, 2010
Photo of SFLpunk
4.05/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Freud for this one!

.5L brown glass pry-top. No date.

Appearance: Pours an opaque black with thick, rich tan cappuccino head.

Nose: Dusty cocoa powder and black vanilla beans. Some notes of bourbon too. Rich aromas and very sweet smelling.

Palate: Wide open thick palate. Full-bodied and sweet with some bitter notes on the back of the tongue. Lots of vanilla bean, cocoa powder and black-strap molasses. Long, sweet (rich) finish.

Notes: I don't know if you could tell, but I find this beer to be very rich. It's not cloying, but it's sweet for sure. Carbonation keeps that in check. Recommend seeking out.

SFLpunk, Apr 29, 2010
Photo of notdan
4.28/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I've had this sitting around for about 5 months and decided to drink it on a particularly cold/snowy night in late April.

Pours with a moderate tan head that dissipates to a thin layer that leaves a surprising amount of lacing for such a strong beer. The body is opaque black and very attractive. Smells of roast malt, chocolate, maybe a touch of tart cherries and vanilla. Not overly complex but very nice. The chocolate becomes very evident in the taste. Like wow, that's a lot of chocolate. The roast malt takes more of a background role in flavour but the vanilla really starts to come through. Relatively sweet, but very nice. Carbonation is perfect, mouthfeel is full and creamy.

I'm loving sipping on this. I think this is my new favourite dessert stout (yes, I like this more than Aphrodisiaque). Grabbed a scoop of vanilla ice cream with the last half of the bottle. Delicious.

notdan, Apr 28, 2010
Photo of kwjd
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pitch black colour with a light tan head that quickly dissipates to a thin coating over the surface of the beer. Nice lacing on the glass. Smells of roasted malt and chocolate with a hint of vanilla. Taste is much of the same, a little bit muted compared to some other imperial stouts, but still quite nice. Has some bitterness to it. Carbonation is fairly high, but still a bit creamy mouthfeel. I am enjoying sipping on this.

kwjd, Mar 13, 2010
Photo of Luk13
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle. Roasted malt aromas, lots of chocolate and vanilla as per the description. Also, quite spicy (cinnamon). Pretty harsh chocolate taste, very roasted but with a good bitter alcoholic finale and well dosed sweetness. Decent, creamy mouthfeel. Better than expected.

Luk13, Jan 17, 2010
Photo of ZorPrime
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer is very dark black color. I can't see through... it is like a black hole! The head is thin (happens with 10% ABV beer), brown and doesn't stick to the glass. The smell gives chocolate with hint of vanilla. I get some bananas too. The tasting provides very good flavor... Roasted malts with some chocolate. As the beer warms up I get some blackberries... I might go nuts here. A good bitterness at the end of the taste and it stays there for a long time.

The beer is full bodied and creamy. There is some complexity, I'm sure I don't get everything out of the taste. As I continue sipping this one I feel the alcohol moves through my body. Very nice for the cold days.

This one is a pretty good beer in my book.

ZorPrime, Dec 05, 2009
Jean Dit Laforge from Microbrasserie de l'ile d'Orléans
85 out of 100 based on 19 ratings.