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Southampton Abbot 12 - Southampton Publick House

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Southampton Abbot 12Southampton Abbot 12

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very good

146 Reviews
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Reviews: 146
Hads: 249
Avg: 3.98
pDev: 15.83%
Wants: 30
Gots: 26 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
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New York, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-22-2003

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Reviews: 146 | Hads: 249
Photo of mothman
3.58/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a small layer of beige head. Color is a ruby hued caramel brown.

Aroma: Fairly malty with flavors of caramel and toffee. Some bready malts. A lot of dark fruits as well. Raisins, cherries, and dried red apples.

Taste: Apples, licorice, and plums. A bit of spice in there as well. More malts again. Caramel and toffee. Much like the nose.

Mouthfeel: Dry and sweet, slightly cloying. Medium to full bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends dry.

Overall, a decent quad, but nothing out of the ordinary. Tastes like a quad. Not much else to say.

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Photo of weeare138
3.62/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This is the Sly Fox contract bottling...
Appears a crimson toned red with a small, off-white head that quickly fizzles away into nothing. There were no traces of lacing around the glass.
Smell is of sweet brown sugar, cola, with notes of raisins, and plums.
Taste is of the same aromas with a bit of an overbearing sweetness, vanilla, a touch of cocoa, and molasses.
Mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with a sweetness that reminds me a bit of the Sly Fox's corked and caged Ichor. It even has the same lack of CO2 like the Ichor. What's the deal with that? Is it just a Quad problem?

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Photo of JVEyck309
3.62/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bomber, corked and caged, poured into chalice glass

Looks soda like, near opaque dark redish brown with a small head which quickly becomes a thin sticky lacin smell is deep with sweet dark fruits, grapes, cherry vanilla soda taste is super sweet syrupy, and sugary; thick molasses, again, heavy on the dark fruits, coats the tongue with heavy sugary grape/raisin/etc flavors 9.9abv it's an enjoyable slow sipper, a bit too sweet in my opinion but no complaints as I enjoy the rest of the bottle. Carbonation is good, not too much not too little, slightly warming alcohol. Probably will wait a while before I get this again, but it's certainly a great brew. Cheers

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Photo of Kraken
3.63/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Split bottle with my brother. Poured from corked and caged 750ml bottle, into fin du monde chalice. Three finger off white/tan head slight lacing at best. This quad poured a slightly light root-beer color, and was most likely too cold. Bouquet of raisins, dates, slight caramel and booze. Taste almost echoes smell. Raisins and dates are very prominent, followed by caramels, booze and a syrupy sweetness that verged on overpowering. Booze and sweetness become more and more of defining characteristic with warming. Somewhat dry and sticky finish due to high abv. This would benefit from cellaring. Mildly drinkable atm.

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Photo of Gmann
3.65/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of a 750 corked and caged bottle. The color was a dark ruby red with a puffy off-white head that was slow to disippate and left some nice lacing on the glass. The smell is of candi sugar, not much else, no fruity esters that I could pick up. The taste is sweet from the candi sugar, has a very light chocolate malt taste, a bit of honey, not much in the way of dark fruit. The feel is well bodied and moderately carbonated, finishes slick with a kind of rum/vanilla sweetness. Overly sweet with not enough roasted malt backbone to it, not picking much fruit taste to it. I have mixed feeling with this, it has an initial good taste but tends to get cloying as you finish.

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Photo of tobelerone
3.65/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This was probably my favorite tap offering during two recent visits to the brewpub. It’s clear and amber with a fluffy white head that has good retention. Extensive lacing.

Lots of spicy, yeasty esters and fruit notes in the aroma. Fairly complex, with a hint of booziness emerging from underneath. Lots of sweet malt and Belgian candi sugar as well.

This is a sweet quad to be sure, with all that candi sugar and dark fruit dominating the taste, as well as prominent yeastiness and spices, most notably cloves and pepper. Again the astringent alcohol emerges in the swallow and as the beer warms. Not quite as complex as the nose lets on.

Medium-full bodied with solid carbonation. A little bit fizzy and less profound in feeling than the best of the style. Finish dries out a bit, which helps things along. Not a top notch quad but not bad either.

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Photo of Pencible
3.66/5  rDev -8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A: This poured a nearly opaque dark mahogany with thick tan head.
S: It smelled like wild yeast with spicy wheat and caramel malt, with a little raisin and cocoa and grassy hops.
T: It tasted like wild yeast and spicy wheat and light caramel, with some floral hops and earthy cocoa and a little bit of dark fruit and alcohol. It had a bitter aftertaste with a little lingering sweetness and alcohol.
M: It was slick and slightly thick with smooth carbonation.
D: This was a good beer, but surprisingly not malty. It had great body, but it was pretty hot fresh, so it was definitely a sipper. Age would probably really help improve this beer, as it was a little rough fresh.

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Photo of RblWthACoz
3.67/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear brown with a minimal tan head.

Nose is yeasty and bready. Perfume is there as well.

Flavor is sweet and it seems a bit too much so. Too much sugar in the mix that interferes with any other complexities making an appearance. Sure there is a touch of spice, but the level of sweetness is just dominating here and halting anything else from coming forward.

Feel is decent with a fairly full carbonation and the liquid is alright too.

Overall this was not as good as I would want it to be. Perhaps it needs about 3 years of aging to help it calm down a bit, but I won't be going back for another bottle to see if that's the case. I am grateful that I didn't have to pay for this bottle. A disappointment.

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Photo of biegaman
3.7/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer's chestnut colour is simply lovely and the combination of transparency and resplendence make it every bit as graceful as good-looking. Its plush amber tones, ruby undercurrent and soft tawny edges look as though they were taken from an interior-decor magazine for the rich and famous. Even without any head, how luxurious!

When most American brewers try their hands at any strong Belgian-style beer the result often plays out like a guitar that's missing a string (or is just out of tune altogether). Southampton, however, has already proven that replicating these varieties comes can be done; like Saison Deluxe, Grand Cru and Bière de Garde this smells authentically European.

That aroma, like the taste, is full of sweet and dark flavours: brown sugar, dark rum, raisins. That list of 'brown sugar, dark rum, raisins' is repeated over and over again, like clockwork, as if it were the beer's own personal spiritual mantra. Occasionally caramel, honey or fig shows up, but so few and far between that they're of minor significance.

If memory serves me correctly, this particular bottle has already celebrated its second birthday. After first trying a considerably aged version of the original batch I rushed right out to buy more...only to find the newer batch ferociously, regrettably sweet. And so I aged this one in hopes that with a little time it would mature like the other one had.

Which it hasn't really. Like the child who's learned his first word and says nothing but, this beer knows sweetness and nothing else. Despite some earthiness, hops are an afterthought and, judging its thinness, it has been deprived of the proper malt bill required for a beer of its strength. That said, alcohol has also been excluded from the palate.

True to its intended abbey heritage, I've found this beer makes a wonderful pairing with simple monk foods: hearty, grainy breads, salty cheeses and dried fruits. Indeed, a little salt goes a long way in sedating the beer's malignant sweetness. Without the grub it's still worth downing but be sure to bring a big sweet-tooth. You'll need it.

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Photo of jnn4v
3.7/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Mid brown color. Moderate haze. Some sediment.

S: Belgian yeast. Belgian candy sugar. Alcohol. Something a bit funky / tart.

T: Caramel. Dates. Rock candy. Hops. More bitter than I'd imagine. Slightly hot from the alcohol. Seems like it needs more time to integrate and smooth out.

M: Very good body. Nice, smooth texture.

D: Reasonably drinkable, but needs more age. It is hot and slightly harsh when cold, and it is slightly rough when warm. Cellar temp worked best for taste / drinkability.

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Photo of stimulus
3.73/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a goblet.
Best by 12/2014. ABV 9.9%.

A: Pours a deep ruby with a beige head than never goes away.
S: Sweet dark fruits and caramel/sugary scent.
T: Much more pronounced dark fruits, like plums and figs, and feels like it will get more complex as it warms, but it only brings alcohol heat.
M: Heavy bodied, smooth, and well carbonated.
D: It's not too hard to drink, but pairing a heavy body with quite a bit of alcohol heat as it warms makes this sipper a bit harder to finish than most others of the same style.

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Photo of msubulldog25
3.77/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Saturday 2/14, opened this bottle with my valentine at our favorite getaway place on the Oregon Coast. 750 ml brown bottle, caged and corked; split to a couple small tasting glasses and paired with a few aged cheeses and cured meats.

This bottle was cellared for 18-24 months (something the label recommends); thanks to the nice East Coast BA who sent this a long time ago.

A: Notably clear and bright orange, reminiscent of copper or hazelnut shell. Fizzy light tan head, lots of rising carbonation. A finger-worth of foam quickly disappears, settling to almost nothing - no lace either.

S: Very sweet, malty grain steeped in sugar; almost wort-like. Plenty of juicy fruit, syrupy raisins with a slight spice. A little tea-like.

T: Sweetness upfront, sugar-laden ripe fruit. Cinnamon apples, glazed raisins, overripe berries. A soda-like caramel flavoring, spice cake, gumdrops. Spices and a slinky bitterness, give just enough balance - but this is (or has become) an almost-too-sweet quadrupel.

M: Fizzy in the mouth, but smooth-bodied. Medium build, finishes with more sugars, but relatively clean. Alcohol well-concealed. Plenty of burps induced, carbonation a punch in the gut.

D: Alone I'd have scored a little lower...more sugary than I prefer. Paired with food, however, this quad did well. Aged gouda, Colston Bassett stilton, cured salamis and ripe pear: all performed well with this. The gouda was especially good - we actually cut it into long strips (swizzle sticks) to dredge through this beer. Wouldn't mind having another bottle for Round 2.

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Photo of axeman9182
3.77/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber, brought this one home from ACBF. Poured into my Duvel tulip

The beer pours a very dark brown, with hints of plum around the edges if held up to light. A decent, but not overly impressive tan head rises and leaves a fair amount of lacing, though head retention is a little bit weak. The nose has the expected dark fruit flavors, but there's also much more of a spicy yeast presence, which is somewhat intriguing. The taste is a little bit of a letdown, as yeasty spiciness from the nose disappears and the remaining malt sweetness tastes a little watered down (though still far from bad). There's a brief flash of alcohol warmth at the very end of each sip. The carbonation level is fine, but as the taste hinted at, the body of the beer is a little thin. Overall it's a pretty drinkable beer though, it's got a good flavor and the alcohol presence serves to add to the taste and avoids being harsh in any way. Southampton Abbot 12 is a good beer, but for my money a well executed quad is one of the best beers on the planet and this just doesn't quite measure up to that lofty standard.

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Photo of Gavage
3.78/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: clear reddish brown in color. 2" head lingers around awhile. Some spotty lacing develops.

Smell: malt and fruity sweetness and a hint of yeast.

Taste: malt, brown sugars, yeast, prunes, raisins, and a bit of breadiness. Alcohol is noticeable and warming, and there is a nice bitterness to level out the sweetness.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body. Smooth from start to finish. Aftertaste is mild while the flavors are soft on the tongue after swallowing.

Drinkability: a slow sipping belgian-styled quad here. A bit sweeter than expected. The alcohol and sweetness levels knocks down the mark here, but it is a good beer.

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Photo of zeff80
3.79/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Poured out a somewhat cloudy burgundy color with a one-finger, khaki colored head of foam. Nice retention and some patchy lacing.

S - It smelled of sweet, bready malts with a strong dried fruit aroma - mostly cherry.

T - It tasted really, really sweet and malty. Tons of Belgian candy sugar!. There were some dried fruit flavors like black cherry.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium to full bodied ale with a somewhat sticky mouthfeel.

D - This is an interesting Quad. It was incredibly sweet and malty. Not my favorite quad.

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Photo of AgentZero
3.8/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Rusty brown beer with a light-brown head that left behind a bit of lacing.

S - Caramel, dark fruit, toffee, brown sugar, the things you want to smell in a quad.

T - Taste is pretty spot on with the nose. Raisins, figs, dates and the like make up the dark fruits, with a solid presence of caramel. Rochefort has a nice alcohol burn that cuts through the sweetness, this one is actually a little too well hidden for me. Still quite good.

M - Moderately carbonated, medium-full bodied. Slightly sticky, appropriate for this beer.

O - Pretty solid, I got it down easily, and the alcohol may just be too well hidden.

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Photo of lehows
3.83/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Opened a 2006 vintage I have been keeping in the cellar for over 3 years now. As soon as I twisted the wire off, the cork went flying with little more than a touch and a loud champagne-esque pop. Poured a beautiful dark brown color with a dense but small off-white head. Big aromas of malt and sugary fruit. Flavor was much of the same with very rich alcohol soaked fruit, raisins and figs being the dominate notes. The beer has aged very well but because of the richness I found the drinkability to be somewhat low. An excellent after dinner drink or one to enjoy on a cold winter's night.

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Photo of jzeilinger
3.84/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a very deep amber toffee color with a thick toffee ring and gentle carbonation.

S - Dark Belgian candy sugar/toasted/burnt sugar, plumbs, prunes, mild Belgian spice. Aroma is very, very sweet.

T - Sweet toffee and caramel from start to finish with alcohol warming on the way down (though not detectable in the nose), the booziness that comes through is buried down under and a bit of an edginess to it. A little bit of bread/yeast, prunes, plumbs, figs and some coriander buried way down. After several sips the alcohol starts to diminish.

M - Thick, gentle carbonation, velvety. Coats the mouth with toasted candy sugar, plumb, and coriander.

O - A good Quad but not on par with the Belgians.

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Photo of Foxman
3.85/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

It pours a hazy, dark tea mix of copper amber and brown. Three fingers of light beige, beaten egg-white head sustain almost eternally. Contrails of lacing fly across the inside of the glass.

The aroma is ubiquitous, wafting about potently, but it focuses on tangy sweet grain with vanilla and caramel. Banana and blueberry are astir in the esters, and clove and coriander abound. Green apple and alcohol grace the periphery.

Upon sipping, densely sweet toasted grain and absolutely cloying candy sugar envelop the tongue. Thus becomes the challenge, to detect any more than the merest hints of spice or fruit. Alcohol, though, is present, but mediated by a continuation of cough-syrup sweetness. The finish, almost surprisingly, carries crisp green apple and dries considerably. However, the finish has most of the discernible flavor, as the sweetness presents a struggle to note much else.

Full bodied, it's sugar laden napalm, syrupy and coating with a moderate creamy caress.

If the flavor was even close to as distinguishable as the aroma it would be a big winner. But instead it's dense sugar sweetness from dangling uvula to smacking lips. The ABV is big and well-incorporated, but drinking it is a fair, if not totally unenjoyable task. I had it, can say I did, and lived to tell about it, but the truth is there are plenty of Southampton beers I'll have again before this one. Unless I have to counteract an insulin overdose.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.85/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Bottle pour at Woodshop 8 held at The Hermosillo in Los Angeles, CA.

Pours a hazy orange-brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to a small cap on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, caramel, dark fruit, and spice aromas. Taste is much the same with dark fruit and spice flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with some solid aromas and flavors for the style.

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Photo of speter
3.85/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a muddy brown with a huge rocky head that leaves nice lacing.

S: Molasses, brown sugar, toffee, and añejo rum.

T: A sweet sipper, featuring lots of burnt sugar, rum notes, and hints of dark fruits like prunes and raisins, with a dark chocolate covered cherry taste in the mid-palate, but the finish is quite dry.

M: Full bodied and richly carbonated. A nice amount of alcohol warmth.

D: Not a session beer, of course, but for the style, very drinkable.

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Photo of Pahn
3.86/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle into Duvel tulip. Marked 12/22/14, so I'm going to assume it was bottled in December of 2009.

Appearance: Careful pour yields a two and a half inch offwhite, fizzy head that crackles and pops audibly and visibly, but dissipates slowly, leaving swatches of lacing. Bottle wasn't exactly a gusher, but a bit of foam rose out of the top upon popping the cork. Pours a beautiful deep red, and decorates the glass with long lasting streaks of lacing.

Smell: At first there's a very strong aroma of Belgian yeast, as well as some clove and coriander. The smell develops a deep, musky note reminiscent of cologne, then a weird, almost chlorine-like aroma. This airy, indoor pool smell comes to (unfortunately) dominate the aroma. Deeper into the glass, some of the estery goodness from the taste pops up in the nose, and the (perhaps hoppy) pool character subsides a bit.

Taste: Follows the initial smell; healthy dose of Belgian yeast, lots of spice, but additionally there's a deep caramel flavor and some nice dark fruit (closest to raisin i think) esters right off the bat. It's apparent early on that this is a reasonably successful American attempt at a quad. There's lots of development of flavor, transitioning through nice, rich toffee and caramel notes and deep, musty, intriguing dark fruit notes. Boozy finish, but not so much that it hides or intrudes on any of the delicious flavors.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied. Not particularly good... a bit too carbonated, yet not at all creamy. Kind of boring, but on the upside, not much to complain about (e.g. it's not too sugary or sticky, despite the decadent flavors, nor is it overwhelmingly hot despite the high ABV and noticeable alcohol flavor).

Drinkability: This beer doesn't hide its 10.5% ABV, but it delivers enough flavor to justify it. A good sipper, and decent representation of the style.

After the one-note, borderline disaster of Southampton Grand Cru, I was afraid to try this beer... I expected it would either be too simple, or taste like cola. I was pleasantly surprised to find an American quad that rivals Allagash 4. In terms of feel, taste, and aroma, Southampton's quad is not in the same league as Saint Bernardus or Trappistes Rochefort, but it's a good beer. I'll be happy to have this one again, and might throw one in the cellar to see what happens.

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Photo of ccrida
3.87/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle that I picked up on Long Island about 2 months ago. There's no date, but since I got this at Shoreline Beverage, which is close to the source and has a pretty high turnover, I assume it's on the newer side. While I'm sure time would serve it well, how would I know if I didn't have one fresh? Note the label cites 9.9% ABV, not 10.5%.

Poured into my 75th anniversary Orval chalice, the quad is garnet colored with a small, long lasting head, with bigger bubbles in the middle of a tight foamy collar that leaves light foamy lace.

The aroma is pretty soft, sweet fruitiness, and maybe a touch of vinegar, reminiscent of a subdued Liefmans Goudenband, with alcohol and some spicy phenols.

The taste has a big smack of raisins and some other dark fruits, candi sugar, just a touch of phenols and booze, with a nice spicy backbone. It's weird because it starts off very sweet and fruity, and I'm thinking this is a lot more BSDA then quad..but then it really spices up towards the finish, although the aftertaste is still heavy on the candi sugar. And while the spices are nice, there is none of that roastiness that you get in the benchmarks like St. Bernadus or Rochefort.

This is really carbonated and creamy, more evidence that this is a younger bottle, and is made to really go the distance. Medium-light bodied for a quad.

A bit too sweet and rich to really be super drinkable, it gets a little cloying after awhile, but nevertheless quite good. I'll have to get my hands on another bottle and let it run. Lately Avery's The Reverend has become my new benchmark, at least for US versions, if not period, and this one was about twice the price and not as good.

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Photo of Ambiorix
3.88/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Clear, coppery pour, with a dense, tan head. Decent lacing.

S: Caramel, toffee, raisins, sweet malt.

T: Raisins, toffee, sweet caramel malt, fruity esters, Belgian yeast, alcohol. A little sweet. Cherry notes in the finish.

M: Medium mouthfeel. A little sticky.

D: Almost like a really strong dubbel. Tasty, a little woody. Nice.

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Photo of ark57
3.88/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2003 - This is what I like. A deep, dark ruby beer with a fruity/spicy aroma. It is very malty and quite complex. It is warming from the alcohol, though I do not know what the ABV is. It finishes dry and slight tart. I wish I bought a second bottle to see what it was like in a few years.

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Southampton Abbot 12 from Southampton Publick House
89 out of 100 based on 146 ratings.