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Southampton Abbot 12 - Southampton Publick House

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89
very good

235 Ratings
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Ratings: 235
Reviews: 141
rAvg: 3.97
pDev: 12.59%
Wants: 28
Gots: 23 | FT: 3
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Southampton Publick House visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-22-2003)
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Photo of Gavage
3.8/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: clear reddish brown in color. 2" head lingers around awhile. Some spotty lacing develops.

Smell: malt and fruity sweetness and a hint of yeast.

Taste: malt, brown sugars, yeast, prunes, raisins, and a bit of breadiness. Alcohol is noticeable and warming, and there is a nice bitterness to level out the sweetness.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body. Smooth from start to finish. Aftertaste is mild while the flavors are soft on the tongue after swallowing.

Drinkability: a slow sipping belgian-styled quad here. A bit sweeter than expected. The alcohol and sweetness levels knocks down the mark here, but it is a good beer.

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.53/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, dark amber body with a gigantic off-white head. Yessiree, a beer head large enough to gain sentience.

Smell: Sweet-smelling, candyish aroma of dark fruits, caramel, and spice. Soft hint of yeast.

Taste: Caramel maltiness with a heavy-handed dose of candi sugars. Nicely spiced. Reserved yeastiness. Plenty of figs and raisins. Fruity finish with a slight metallic twang to it.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Moderate carbonation. Syrupy mouthfeel.

Drinkability: That metallic twang detracts somewhat, but still, it's pretty tasty.

Photo of jwc215
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Cage-corked bottle poured into a tulip glass:

Pours orange/copper/amber - beautiful hues - a thick foamy head slowly descends. Trailing lace slides down the glass - would be perfect if some more of it stuck.

The smell is grassy/grainy with subtle vinuous, light caramel notes. Vague spiciness mixes in. Quite a bit, but seemingly in slightly different directions - also something a bit "dirty", not quite "musty" in the background.

The taste is very sweet - caramelish with dark plumb-like fruitiness and grassy/grainy notes that follow through from the nose. Peppery, slightly medicinal spiciness along with a hint of plastic and bready yeast come through in the sweet finish.

The body is full- almost syrupy.

Complex and a decent stab that, personally, doesn't quite stand up to form. Not a "let-down", just doesn't quite reach the level of some other Belgian Quads I've had - something about it is definately an American interpretation - not necessarily a bad thing (and, for that, better than some others I've had, , but....It's nice, but for the price I would choose some others if I had a choice...

Photo of jdhilt
5/5  rDev +25.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Explodes out of bottle and takes 25 minutes to pour a five+ finger very light tan head that stays forever leaving a good lace. Almost clear amber color. Strong carbonation and heavy bodied. Sweet caramel/raisin nose. Flavor is a balanced sweet fruity/raisin and hops. Caramel finish. High ABV is hidden but it is warming. One of the rare beers that I don't find anything wrong with it. Pricey (but worth it to try) at $13.00 for a 750ml corked bottle from Tully's Beer and Wine Wells, ME. Label puts the ABV at 8.9%.

Photo of ccrida
3.88/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle that I picked up on Long Island about 2 months ago. There's no date, but since I got this at Shoreline Beverage, which is close to the source and has a pretty high turnover, I assume it's on the newer side. While I'm sure time would serve it well, how would I know if I didn't have one fresh? Note the label cites 9.9% ABV, not 10.5%.

Poured into my 75th anniversary Orval chalice, the quad is garnet colored with a small, long lasting head, with bigger bubbles in the middle of a tight foamy collar that leaves light foamy lace.

The aroma is pretty soft, sweet fruitiness, and maybe a touch of vinegar, reminiscent of a subdued Liefmans Goudenband, with alcohol and some spicy phenols.

The taste has a big smack of raisins and some other dark fruits, candi sugar, just a touch of phenols and booze, with a nice spicy backbone. It's weird because it starts off very sweet and fruity, and I'm thinking this is a lot more BSDA then quad..but then it really spices up towards the finish, although the aftertaste is still heavy on the candi sugar. And while the spices are nice, there is none of that roastiness that you get in the benchmarks like St. Bernadus or Rochefort.

This is really carbonated and creamy, more evidence that this is a younger bottle, and is made to really go the distance. Medium-light bodied for a quad.

A bit too sweet and rich to really be super drinkable, it gets a little cloying after awhile, but nevertheless quite good. I'll have to get my hands on another bottle and let it run. Lately Avery's The Reverend has become my new benchmark, at least for US versions, if not period, and this one was about twice the price and not as good.

Photo of jcdiflorio
4.18/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had this at Bocktown with WVbeergeek and Jasonm, came in a 750ml caged and corked the corked banged out of sight as soon as the cage was undone. Seved into a tulip glass between the 3 of us.

Hazy,deep copper,mahagony,hard to get a really good look at the color at Bocktown. Off white head hard to pour without a glass full of fluffy everlasting head. Left lot of thick webbing all over the inside of the glass,sticky looking.

Great aroma can't seem to keep it away from the nose. Sweet,dark,tart fruit notes,some sour cherry,earthy,spicy, with hints of currants,clove,allspice also nutty, with some Belgium yeast.

Lots of sweet booziness from the start,vinious,dark fruityness with plum notes. The fruittyness was remisent of dried fruit.Lots of spicyness lots of clove.Also nutty and earthy. Finished clean,spicy and very sugary. Syrupy,big full mouthfeel,smooth and very creamy with lots of juicyness.

A beer to sip,but very enjoyable, wish I had the whole bottle to drink would be no problem. A must try beer if you like this style. Seems like a beer that would age very well.

Photo of lordofthewiens
3/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A 750ml bottle poured into a tulip glass. Red/brown in color, with a small head. Sweet, dark fruit aroma. Very sweet, fruity taste. The alcohol is noticeable, and intrusive. I thought this beer was also way too sweet. I don't think I'll try this beer again.

Photo of lackenhauser
4.13/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very nice, deep cola-colored brown. Nice, big tan head on top that fades all too quickly. Aroma of yeast and quite earthy. Solid malt flavor with a nice spiciness to it. Caramelized raisens and a bit of alcohol to it. Peppery and a somewhat cinnamon spice presence. Great sugary sweetness. The sweetness fades to a pleasant residual dryness. Good body. Extremely drinkable. As worthy an effort as any Belgian versions I have had. Top notch.

Photo of hoppymeal
4.35/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours cola brown, murky and muddy looking, with a very large root beer like head that slowly chunks up and recedes. Aroma is of cinnamon and spiced bread, yeasty, with some rich brown sugar, raisin, and toffee sweetness. Big belgian yeast taste up front, some nice breadiness and a rich malty sugariness of caramel and brown sugar sweetness in the finish that blends very nicely with a warming alcohol. Fairly rich and big bodied, the alcohol strength and slightly peppery effervescence help to balance the body. Outstanding beer, it became its best around room temp where the malts were in full effect and the alcohol was nice and warming. I'd ove to age one of these a little and see what some time does although this beer is near perfect now.

Photo of Foxman
3.8/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

It pours a hazy, dark tea mix of copper amber and brown. Three fingers of light beige, beaten egg-white head sustain almost eternally. Contrails of lacing fly across the inside of the glass.

The aroma is ubiquitous, wafting about potently, but it focuses on tangy sweet grain with vanilla and caramel. Banana and blueberry are astir in the esters, and clove and coriander abound. Green apple and alcohol grace the periphery.

Upon sipping, densely sweet toasted grain and absolutely cloying candy sugar envelop the tongue. Thus becomes the challenge, to detect any more than the merest hints of spice or fruit. Alcohol, though, is present, but mediated by a continuation of cough-syrup sweetness. The finish, almost surprisingly, carries crisp green apple and dries considerably. However, the finish has most of the discernible flavor, as the sweetness presents a struggle to note much else.

Full bodied, it's sugar laden napalm, syrupy and coating with a moderate creamy caress.

If the flavor was even close to as distinguishable as the aroma it would be a big winner. But instead it's dense sugar sweetness from dangling uvula to smacking lips. The ABV is big and well-incorporated, but drinking it is a fair, if not totally unenjoyable task. I had it, can say I did, and lived to tell about it, but the truth is there are plenty of Southampton beers I'll have again before this one. Unless I have to counteract an insulin overdose.

Photo of Jmamay22
4.63/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I snatched up this treasure when I saw it at a local store. It's my second Southampton offering and so far they are batting a thousand. On to the review...

A: Corked and caged 750mL. No date, but this would surely age well. It pours a very foamy two inch head that rests atop a murky brown viscous liquid. I had to pour this one carefully as it was very prone to over foaming. Solid lacing.

S: Sweet malts in the nose with a hint of raisin. Slightly understated.

T/M: Candy sugar is very evident, but it is a nicely balanced brew with hints of cherry. Finishes with a caramel/toffee and alcohol taste. Medium to heavy mouthfeel, but oh so silky smooth.

D/Notes: Very quaffable even at 10.5%. Great to split with a friend or enjoy alone. Highly recommended and absolutely lovely domestic quad. I can't wait to find more Southampton beers. A rich complex beer.

Photo of Gmann
3.63/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of a 750 corked and caged bottle. The color was a dark ruby red with a puffy off-white head that was slow to disippate and left some nice lacing on the glass. The smell is of candi sugar, not much else, no fruity esters that I could pick up. The taste is sweet from the candi sugar, has a very light chocolate malt taste, a bit of honey, not much in the way of dark fruit. The feel is well bodied and moderately carbonated, finishes slick with a kind of rum/vanilla sweetness. Overly sweet with not enough roasted malt backbone to it, not picking much fruit taste to it. I have mixed feeling with this, it has an initial good taste but tends to get cloying as you finish.

Photo of illidurit
4.05/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Obtained via trade with Rodenbacher.

Poured into the trusty Westvleteren goblet. Presents very nicely with an inch of tan head and a murky dark brown body with reddish amber hues. The carbonation is a bit fizzy however, and the head collapses soon leaving minimal lace.

Fruity aroma, mostly cherry with other dark fruits in the background. Candi sugar also makes its presence known.

A sip evokes that classic quadrupel taste; dark fruits like fig and raisin, chewy malt, a faint yeastiness, candi sugar. This beer however has something I haven't picked up in other quads (except for 3 philosophers for obvious reasons): a nice subtle dark cherry flavor.

The mouthfeel would have been spot on if it wasn't for the overcarbonation here. It makes the quaffing rocky and belching frequent.

Drinkability is solid. Easy to polish off a 750.

Photo of cbl2
4.03/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

5/13/2007 $10.99 750 mL 9.90% No best by date.

Appearance:

Cork emerged after much strenuous negotiation with a sad little pop. Pours an odd soda-like color with loads of carbonation that lead to over 2 inches of frothy head that bursts like soap bubbles before settling with nary a lace left behind.

Aroma:

Muted fresh cherry juice with loads of belgian candy sugar.

Taste/Mouthfeel:

Overly carbonated which detracts some points from the mouthfeel, which is otherwise chewy and slick. Flavors are bold ripe fig and cherry cordial with loads of belgian candied sugar in the finish. Alcohol is masked nicely throughout this delicious brew which only suffers from a CO2 issue.

Photo of aforbes10
4.5/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle that i'd had in my basement since August and decided to bring to Dark Lord day. As Eric said below me there, this is one of only two beers i'll be reviewing from DLday because i had a lot of it and because i actually took notes on this one. Pored brown with a touch of orange and flecks of gray brown sediment floating around, nice white head, foamed up a lot after popping the cap off. Odor was of cloves, oranges, spices, and complex belgian malts. Taste was, like Eric (Turdfurgison) says, a lot like St. Bernardus...quite spicy and full bodied, lots of tasty maltiness, and caramel flavors. cloves, citrus, and tangy alcohol. finish is of capers and ethanol. full bodied and tasty beer. definitely a winner in my book.

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.15/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I tried this from a 750mL bottle on Dark Lord Day (thanks Andrew). This is one of only 2 beers I'll rate from that day (out of God knows how many others I tried "splashes" of), because it really stood out and I was able to get a nice pour (I reciprocated with Westvleteren 8). It was an awesome day.

The beer had the murky brown appearance (good thing) of St Bernardus 12 but not so much of a foam poof as I normally get from the latter. The aroma and flavor definitely compared with the St Bernardus (I assume this was what Southampton intended), but were less rich and overpowering. The nose in particular was beautiful, I kept sniffing the glass. The viscosity was up there enough to keep a thick feeling in my mouth, overall it was really well done.

I'm so glad I got a chance to try it, I've been searching for it part time for so long, it just never shows up anywhere I travel to in NY. Thanks again Andrew!

Photo of ommegangpbr
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Purchased at New Beer Distributors in NYC, poured into a cervoise with a temperature of somewhere between 50 and 60 degrees.
The lack of pop in the removal of the cork had me a bit nervous but there were enough bubbles in the glass to put me at ease.
So far, lookin pretty good but not stunning. Has a nice color, but barely any head with a hard pour that goes away quickly and very little lacing is to be found.
Odors are pleasant, but anemic. Some sweetness is there and some malty nuttiness that you might find in a rich dark German beer.
Flavor is WAY sugary. Frangelico comes to mind from time to time but not quite so nutty. Brown sugar candy time. Store brand cola. I paired some of this with a flavorful spicy stew and this brew cut through all that and THEN some. Pretty one dimensional though I happen to enjoy that one dimension.
Mouthfeel is definitely thin for the style; has a slickness to it and is not cloying. Not very traditional as far as my experience tells me. Maybe something new is being attempted.
Southampton Abbot 12 reminds me of the one bottle of Kasteelbier Brune I've had, though the Southampton sample is probably less aged than the Kasteel. I've also had lots more beer since I had the Kasteel. As it stands now for me, Southampton Abbot 12 is a middle of the road quadrupel. This bottle might have needed some age to it in order to develop more flavors (no born on date to be found but I can tell from the label that this is from the new line of Southampton brews).
Right before this fellow I had a 12 ounce bottle of Three Philosophers, and I must say (no Ommegang bias intended) that Three Philosophers wins in every way.

Photo of mmcave
4.38/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2006 vintage, 750ml bottle received in trade with cooperrip, but I saved it for a special occasion. I’m drinking this to celebrate my two hundred and fiftieth-beer karma point. Chilled below room and poured rather passively into Watou goblet. Head rose to nice one finger thickness and now stands steady about a centimeter above the surface. The head is a creamy off white and the body is a dark/black cola color lightening up toward the bottom, which is a subtle rusty amber color, looks sort of like a plum as a whole. Smells of vanilla and hay (especially when its cold), wonderful dark fruit esters, raisins, rummed plums, dates, maybe some rock candy, slight sherry notes, the tiniest hints of anise, with no real hop presence. As with most quads this beer has to be allowed to warm up to grasp it’s full aromatic potential. Taste is slightly sweet with strong esters and malt character. I get strong date character seconded by raisins, hints of anise and earth plus a slightly boozy tinge toward the finish and an absolute alcohol warmth. The bitterness is just enough to balance the sweet malt and alcohol flavors. This is not a session beer it’s the sort of beer you drink slowly and if you drink the 750ml by your self its all you drink. Wonderful beer, great/interesting quad sad I can’t get it here in Chicago.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of Adrian910ss: Poured a deep burgundy color ale with a big off-white foamy head with good retention and lacing. Aroma of sweet malt with some hints of dry fruits (figs and plums). Taste consisted of some sweet malt with some very subtle Belgian yeast and some very subtle dry fruits such as figs and plums. Body is slightly above average with no alcohol discernable. I don’t know if my expectation were too high or if I got another so-so bottle of Southampton but I wasn’t impressed at all and thought this was quite far from the staple of the style (Rochefort, Westy, St-Bernadus).

Photo of ppoitras
4.47/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle obtained via trade with Plaid75. Thanks for the opportunity... 2006 vintage.

Poured into a heavy glass chalice, formed a 1/4" light tan head over the slightly cloudy reddish brown brew. Head is quickly down to an uneven layer of bubbles, with average to good lacing. Aroma is lightly fruity and spiced dark maltiness. Flavor is just what the nose portended, with little to no alcohol taste, but the warming throat and tingly lips tell you that, like those old pasta sauce commercials used to say "It's in there...". Mouthfeel and drinkability are excellent as well. Unsurprisingly, another excellent offering for the 750 Series. Wish these were distro-ed just a little bit further out, but I'll trade and/or travel to find them.

Photo of Billolick
4.33/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Shared a large bottle of this stunning brew at the Hop Devil's Belgian room in NYC. Nose is of Rum, raisins and glowing alcohol and malt. Shining and glowing dark brown in color, murky with a dark tan head, warming and tasty, big flavors of more rum, raisins, ripe dark fruits. World class sipper, go get some, but it away for awhile or enjoy right now, fine, fine creation from SHampton.

Photo of jaluria
4.45/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured an opaque dark purple color with black and crimson hues and a soft tan colored head that dissipated quickly. The surface was covered in small and medium sized bubbles that retained their shape for quite awhile. Aromas of hard candy, roasted malt, toffee, and plums. This beer is filled with flavor; dried fruits, sweet malt, sweet candy, sublte hops, etc. Well balanced, considering the style, with just the right touch of carbonation and texture to make it easy to drink despite the high alcohol content. A mildly bitter finish seals the deal. Easy to sip and enjoy with a variety of foods. In my opinion, this beer is on par with some of the finest Belgian beers.

Photo of Crosling
4.65/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Legendary, complex, vinous nose of dates, cherries, plums, caramel and chocolate.

Tastes fruity and quite complex with nice woven caramel and chocolate flavors as well. Big body, which is typical of Belgian Trappist ales. Well hidden alcohol. In my opinion this is right up there with Rochefort, Westveteren, St. Bernardus and is one of the best darker Belgian styles that is brewed in the states.

Photo of blitheringidiot
4.83/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Picked up a bottle at Shoreline Beverage on Lawg-i-lan last week. 2006 bottle cap info.

Into a tulip with a dark auburn mahagony hue topped with a dense compact sandy beige head cap. Not much lace to speak of possibly due to the 12% ABV but there is some drippy ice hither and yon.

Deep aromatic caramelized sugar scents. Notes of pastry and rum torte dessert cake. Reminds me of Rochefort 10 or 12.

First swigs: Dense caramel candy and sugar daddy. A touch of liquer or almond extract. Doughy flavors are pronounced as well. Dry finish with a linger of toffee and Kaluha. Dark fruit has a field day her with date and fig all over the palate. A creamy butter pecan ice cream malt flavor balances out the brew.

Feel is frothy and will cascade off the tongue into a fluffy pillow. Quite airy and light bodied with the 12% kicker quality hanging in the background.

Last swigs: Liquid butter pecan ice cream. Perfect timing as I have been on quite the quad kick as of late. This is a kick ass quad that stands its ground against Westy 12 anyday. The first time that I had this beer I didn't know what a quad was. Now I do. Wow!

Beer is good. Happy domestic quad beering.

Photo of kennyo
4.63/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

had a chance to break out the St. Bernardus chalice that I got free from Bierkraft for winning the Imbiber's caption contest. And what a beer to try in in. 2003 vintage Abbot 12.

Pours a deep barown/garnet read color with a 1/4" head that pretty much stays for the whole drink, very nice Belgian lace. The aroma is sweet malt, raisins, yeast, some roastyness. This is a beautiful drinking beer, full of sweet malt, alcohol, yeasty goodness, fruity, warming flavors. I'd imagine that if I went to Belgium, this is what beer tastes like, makes you forget that other abbey beer, you know the one that starts with a Ch.

Southampton Abbot 12 from Southampton Publick House
89 out of 100 based on 235 ratings.