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Southampton Abbot 12 - Southampton Publick House

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BA SCORE
89
very good

234 Ratings
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Ratings: 234
Reviews: 141
rAvg: 3.97
pDev: 12.59%
Wants: 28
Gots: 23 | FT: 3
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Southampton Publick House visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-22-2003)
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

fiedler84, Jun 16, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

Seaba, Feb 26, 2013
Photo of Phyl21ca
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of Adrian910ss: Poured a deep burgundy color ale with a big off-white foamy head with good retention and lacing. Aroma of sweet malt with some hints of dry fruits (figs and plums). Taste consisted of some sweet malt with some very subtle Belgian yeast and some very subtle dry fruits such as figs and plums. Body is slightly above average with no alcohol discernable. I don’t know if my expectation were too high or if I got another so-so bottle of Southampton but I wasn’t impressed at all and thought this was quite far from the staple of the style (Rochefort, Westy, St-Bernadus).

Phyl21ca, Jan 23, 2007
Photo of jwc215
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Cage-corked bottle poured into a tulip glass:

Pours orange/copper/amber - beautiful hues - a thick foamy head slowly descends. Trailing lace slides down the glass - would be perfect if some more of it stuck.

The smell is grassy/grainy with subtle vinuous, light caramel notes. Vague spiciness mixes in. Quite a bit, but seemingly in slightly different directions - also something a bit "dirty", not quite "musty" in the background.

The taste is very sweet - caramelish with dark plumb-like fruitiness and grassy/grainy notes that follow through from the nose. Peppery, slightly medicinal spiciness along with a hint of plastic and bready yeast come through in the sweet finish.

The body is full- almost syrupy.

Complex and a decent stab that, personally, doesn't quite stand up to form. Not a "let-down", just doesn't quite reach the level of some other Belgian Quads I've had - something about it is definately an American interpretation - not necessarily a bad thing (and, for that, better than some others I've had, , but....It's nice, but for the price I would choose some others if I had a choice...

jwc215, Sep 01, 2007
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

ygtbsm94, Jan 13, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

jhb138, Feb 15, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

ncaudle, Oct 17, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Purchased at New Beer Distributors in NYC, poured into a cervoise with a temperature of somewhere between 50 and 60 degrees.
The lack of pop in the removal of the cork had me a bit nervous but there were enough bubbles in the glass to put me at ease.
So far, lookin pretty good but not stunning. Has a nice color, but barely any head with a hard pour that goes away quickly and very little lacing is to be found.
Odors are pleasant, but anemic. Some sweetness is there and some malty nuttiness that you might find in a rich dark German beer.
Flavor is WAY sugary. Frangelico comes to mind from time to time but not quite so nutty. Brown sugar candy time. Store brand cola. I paired some of this with a flavorful spicy stew and this brew cut through all that and THEN some. Pretty one dimensional though I happen to enjoy that one dimension.
Mouthfeel is definitely thin for the style; has a slickness to it and is not cloying. Not very traditional as far as my experience tells me. Maybe something new is being attempted.
Southampton Abbot 12 reminds me of the one bottle of Kasteelbier Brune I've had, though the Southampton sample is probably less aged than the Kasteel. I've also had lots more beer since I had the Kasteel. As it stands now for me, Southampton Abbot 12 is a middle of the road quadrupel. This bottle might have needed some age to it in order to develop more flavors (no born on date to be found but I can tell from the label that this is from the new line of Southampton brews).
Right before this fellow I had a 12 ounce bottle of Three Philosophers, and I must say (no Ommegang bias intended) that Three Philosophers wins in every way.

ommegangpbr, Apr 27, 2007
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

Knapp85, Aug 25, 2013
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

brutalist, Sep 08, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

xenjoiii, Mar 06, 2014
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3.53/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Beautiful dark reddish brown brew with huge frothy head that crackles and pops till it settles down staying huge but becoming a soft rocky cap.

S: Smells of caramel and cloves with a dry lemony astringent finish (this seems to be apparent in many Southampton beers).

T: Sweet over ripened fruit; banana, raspberry; dominate the flavor profile. There is a lot of sugar left over in this beer.

M: Medium body with syrupy characteristics although it is not necessarily thick. Soft foamy carbonation that persists but stands no chance against the sweet flavor.

D: Too sweet for me to drink quickly. Perhaps if paired with the right food, maybe a cheese, this beer would go down easier but by itself on a Monday evening it becomes an event.

Notes: The strange lemon astringent aroma I smelled that I noted seems to be found in a lot of Southampton's beers. It could be due to a common yeast used in many of there beers. Anyone have any thoughts? Overall this is a good beer from a great brewery. However, I am not really into beers that could be put in the dessert category unless they are drank in the right context. I think I would like it better if it were more highly attenuated. I'd give it more than just one more try though.

BeerLover729, Feb 04, 2008
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3.53/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours deep amber with off-white head. Smell of dried fruit and alcohol.

Sweet rum flavor with a hint of earth. Dried cherries, sugar and a touch of spice. A bit "hot," as the alcohol is evident upfront and in the finish. Taste is good, but drinking more than one could be a chore.

A fire-side sipper. Or would be great with grilled medium-rare lamb chops.

Zraly, Oct 01, 2010
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3.53/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, dark amber body with a gigantic off-white head. Yessiree, a beer head large enough to gain sentience.

Smell: Sweet-smelling, candyish aroma of dark fruits, caramel, and spice. Soft hint of yeast.

Taste: Caramel maltiness with a heavy-handed dose of candi sugars. Nicely spiced. Reserved yeastiness. Plenty of figs and raisins. Fruity finish with a slight metallic twang to it.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Moderate carbonation. Syrupy mouthfeel.

Drinkability: That metallic twang detracts somewhat, but still, it's pretty tasty.

ChainGangGuy, Sep 10, 2007
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3.55/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

750 ML bottle purchased caged and corked for $8.95 from New Beer Distributors on Chrystie Street in Manhattan...
Impressive appearance - pours a dark burgundy, light-brown, purple hue with a gigantic foamy head that exhibited enormous staying power...
Sweet, date, prune, and thick malty aroma - very sweet with hints of figs, and dark candied sugars...
Taste strongly complemented the aroma, laden with dehydrated dark, fruits, figs, prunes, rich malts, dates, currants, raisins, caramel and vanilla nuances... The only thing detracting from the flavor was the undeniable presence of alcohol on the tongue and the super-sweet taste that was borderline cloying...
Thick, creamy mouthfeel, however drinkability took a hit due to the overbearing sweetness and powerful alcohol...
Definitely a solid American sample of a Quad, but when compared to some European versions, nothing above and beyond...

dsa7783, Jun 26, 2008
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3.6/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This is the Sly Fox contract bottling...
Appears a crimson toned red with a small, off-white head that quickly fizzles away into nothing. There were no traces of lacing around the glass.
Smell is of sweet brown sugar, cola, with notes of raisins, and plums.
Taste is of the same aromas with a bit of an overbearing sweetness, vanilla, a touch of cocoa, and molasses.
Mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with a sweetness that reminds me a bit of the Sly Fox's corked and caged Ichor. It even has the same lack of CO2 like the Ichor. What's the deal with that? Is it just a Quad problem?

weeare138, Dec 26, 2007
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3.6/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bomber, corked and caged, poured into chalice glass

Looks soda like, near opaque dark redish brown with a small head which quickly becomes a thin sticky lacin smell is deep with sweet dark fruits, grapes, cherry vanilla soda taste is super sweet syrupy, and sugary; thick molasses, again, heavy on the dark fruits, coats the tongue with heavy sugary grape/raisin/etc flavors 9.9abv it's an enjoyable slow sipper, a bit too sweet in my opinion but no complaints as I enjoy the rest of the bottle. Carbonation is good, not too much not too little, slightly warming alcohol. Probably will wait a while before I get this again, but it's certainly a great brew. Cheers

JVEyck309, Nov 18, 2009
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3.63/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of a 750 corked and caged bottle. The color was a dark ruby red with a puffy off-white head that was slow to disippate and left some nice lacing on the glass. The smell is of candi sugar, not much else, no fruity esters that I could pick up. The taste is sweet from the candi sugar, has a very light chocolate malt taste, a bit of honey, not much in the way of dark fruit. The feel is well bodied and moderately carbonated, finishes slick with a kind of rum/vanilla sweetness. Overly sweet with not enough roasted malt backbone to it, not picking much fruit taste to it. I have mixed feeling with this, it has an initial good taste but tends to get cloying as you finish.

Gmann, Jun 03, 2007
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3.63/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This was probably my favorite tap offering during two recent visits to the brewpub. It’s clear and amber with a fluffy white head that has good retention. Extensive lacing.

Lots of spicy, yeasty esters and fruit notes in the aroma. Fairly complex, with a hint of booziness emerging from underneath. Lots of sweet malt and Belgian candi sugar as well.

This is a sweet quad to be sure, with all that candi sugar and dark fruit dominating the taste, as well as prominent yeastiness and spices, most notably cloves and pepper. Again the astringent alcohol emerges in the swallow and as the beer warms. Not quite as complex as the nose lets on.

Medium-full bodied with solid carbonation. A little bit fizzy and less profound in feeling than the best of the style. Finish dries out a bit, which helps things along. Not a top notch quad but not bad either.

tobelerone, May 10, 2012
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3.63/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a small layer of beige head. Color is a ruby hued caramel brown.

Aroma: Fairly malty with flavors of caramel and toffee. Some bready malts. A lot of dark fruits as well. Raisins, cherries, and dried red apples.

Taste: Apples, licorice, and plums. A bit of spice in there as well. More malts again. Caramel and toffee. Much like the nose.

Mouthfeel: Dry and sweet, slightly cloying. Medium to full bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends dry.

Overall, a decent quad, but nothing out of the ordinary. Tastes like a quad. Not much else to say.

mothman, Jun 07, 2011
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3.65/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Split bottle with my brother. Poured from corked and caged 750ml bottle, into fin du monde chalice. Three finger off white/tan head slight lacing at best. This quad poured a slightly light root-beer color, and was most likely too cold. Bouquet of raisins, dates, slight caramel and booze. Taste almost echoes smell. Raisins and dates are very prominent, followed by caramels, booze and a syrupy sweetness that verged on overpowering. Booze and sweetness become more and more of defining characteristic with warming. Somewhat dry and sticky finish due to high abv. This would benefit from cellaring. Mildly drinkable atm.

Kraken, May 14, 2008
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3.65/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear brown with a minimal tan head.

Nose is yeasty and bready. Perfume is there as well.

Flavor is sweet and it seems a bit too much so. Too much sugar in the mix that interferes with any other complexities making an appearance. Sure there is a touch of spice, but the level of sweetness is just dominating here and halting anything else from coming forward.

Feel is decent with a fairly full carbonation and the liquid is alright too.

Overall this was not as good as I would want it to be. Perhaps it needs about 3 years of aging to help it calm down a bit, but I won't be going back for another bottle to see if that's the case. I am grateful that I didn't have to pay for this bottle. A disappointment.

RblWthACoz, May 02, 2008
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3.65/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A: This poured a nearly opaque dark mahogany with thick tan head.
S: It smelled like wild yeast with spicy wheat and caramel malt, with a little raisin and cocoa and grassy hops.
T: It tasted like wild yeast and spicy wheat and light caramel, with some floral hops and earthy cocoa and a little bit of dark fruit and alcohol. It had a bitter aftertaste with a little lingering sweetness and alcohol.
M: It was slick and slightly thick with smooth carbonation.
D: This was a good beer, but surprisingly not malty. It had great body, but it was pretty hot fresh, so it was definitely a sipper. Age would probably really help improve this beer, as it was a little rough fresh.

Pencible, Sep 27, 2010
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3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Mid brown color. Moderate haze. Some sediment.

S: Belgian yeast. Belgian candy sugar. Alcohol. Something a bit funky / tart.

T: Caramel. Dates. Rock candy. Hops. More bitter than I'd imagine. Slightly hot from the alcohol. Seems like it needs more time to integrate and smooth out.

M: Very good body. Nice, smooth texture.

D: Reasonably drinkable, but needs more age. It is hot and slightly harsh when cold, and it is slightly rough when warm. Cellar temp worked best for taste / drinkability.

jnn4v, Sep 18, 2010
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3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer's chestnut colour is simply lovely and the combination of transparency and resplendence make it every bit as graceful as good-looking. Its plush amber tones, ruby undercurrent and soft tawny edges look as though they were taken from an interior-decor magazine for the rich and famous. Even without any head, how luxurious!

When most American brewers try their hands at any strong Belgian-style beer the result often plays out like a guitar that's missing a string (or is just out of tune altogether). Southampton, however, has already proven that replicating these varieties comes can be done; like Saison Deluxe, Grand Cru and Bière de Garde this smells authentically European.

That aroma, like the taste, is full of sweet and dark flavours: brown sugar, dark rum, raisins. That list of 'brown sugar, dark rum, raisins' is repeated over and over again, like clockwork, as if it were the beer's own personal spiritual mantra. Occasionally caramel, honey or fig shows up, but so few and far between that they're of minor significance.

If memory serves me correctly, this particular bottle has already celebrated its second birthday. After first trying a considerably aged version of the original batch I rushed right out to buy more...only to find the newer batch ferociously, regrettably sweet. And so I aged this one in hopes that with a little time it would mature like the other one had.

Which it hasn't really. Like the child who's learned his first word and says nothing but, this beer knows sweetness and nothing else. Despite some earthiness, hops are an afterthought and, judging its thinness, it has been deprived of the proper malt bill required for a beer of its strength. That said, alcohol has also been excluded from the palate.

True to its intended abbey heritage, I've found this beer makes a wonderful pairing with simple monk foods: hearty, grainy breads, salty cheeses and dried fruits. Indeed, a little salt goes a long way in sedating the beer's malignant sweetness. Without the grub it's still worth downing but be sure to bring a big sweet-tooth. You'll need it.

biegaman, Dec 31, 2010
Southampton Abbot 12 from Southampton Publick House
89 out of 100 based on 234 ratings.