Southampton Abbot 12 - Southampton Publick House

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very good

235 Ratings
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Ratings: 235
Reviews: 141
rAvg: 3.97
pDev: 12.59%
Wants: 28
Gots: 23 | FT: 3
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New York, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-22-2003)
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Photo of PBoegel
3.48/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750 ML bottle best by 7/2013.

Poured into a St. Bernardus chalice. Dark amber with a decent wheat flour colored head. Ok clarity some hazy compounds. Bronze highlights.

Big dark fruit nose. Figs, cherry, dates, raisins and tobacco leaf. Alcohol well masked in the nose.

Tremendous amount of alcohol flavor especially in the finish. Lots of raisin, dark sweet cherry, rum, some oaky wood tones. Alcohol in the mid palate and finish is both floral and fusel the latter being a bummer. Molasses and artificial syrup, apple juice.

Sticky just before the finish, ending dryness is almost all alcohol. Minimal bitterness moderate carbonation. A bit messy.

Overall not what I look for in a Belgian dark. Too sweet with combined higher alcohol.

Photo of speter
3.88/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a muddy brown with a huge rocky head that leaves nice lacing.

S: Molasses, brown sugar, toffee, and añejo rum.

T: A sweet sipper, featuring lots of burnt sugar, rum notes, and hints of dark fruits like prunes and raisins, with a dark chocolate covered cherry taste in the mid-palate, but the finish is quite dry.

M: Full bodied and richly carbonated. A nice amount of alcohol warmth.

D: Not a session beer, of course, but for the style, very drinkable.

Photo of Suds
3.93/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a clear brown ale with a wonderfully dense, light-tan head. The aroma is moderately malty, with a dark fruit, bubble-gum, clove, and spices. It could be a little more intense, but is very complex. Wonderful flavor, lots of complex, layered malts. Very sweet...almost sugary in the fore-taste. The beer, however, dries out nicely in the finish. Appropriate. Full body but lots of carbonation. Small bubbles. Very, very drinkable.

Photo of Ambiorix
3.88/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Clear, coppery pour, with a dense, tan head. Decent lacing.

S: Caramel, toffee, raisins, sweet malt.

T: Raisins, toffee, sweet caramel malt, fruity esters, Belgian yeast, alcohol. A little sweet. Cherry notes in the finish.

M: Medium mouthfeel. A little sticky.

D: Almost like a really strong dubbel. Tasty, a little woody. Nice.

Photo of patto1ro
1.27/5  rDev -68%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

I guess this is supposed to be along the lines of St. Bernardus Abt or Rochefort 10. If that's the case, it fails on every count. Even the colour isn't right, being a good bit too pale. The aroma is bland, but fortunately doesn't betray the horror of the taste. Way too sweet and lacking any complexity. Where are the dark fruit flavours? Where's the bitterness? Where's the balance?

A terrible attempt at one of my favourite types of beer.

Photo of biegaman
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer's chestnut colour is simply lovely and the combination of transparency and resplendence make it every bit as graceful as good-looking. Its plush amber tones, ruby undercurrent and soft tawny edges look as though they were taken from an interior-decor magazine for the rich and famous. Even without any head, how luxurious!

When most American brewers try their hands at any strong Belgian-style beer the result often plays out like a guitar that's missing a string (or is just out of tune altogether). Southampton, however, has already proven that replicating these varieties comes can be done; like Saison Deluxe, Grand Cru and Bière de Garde this smells authentically European.

That aroma, like the taste, is full of sweet and dark flavours: brown sugar, dark rum, raisins. That list of 'brown sugar, dark rum, raisins' is repeated over and over again, like clockwork, as if it were the beer's own personal spiritual mantra. Occasionally caramel, honey or fig shows up, but so few and far between that they're of minor significance.

If memory serves me correctly, this particular bottle has already celebrated its second birthday. After first trying a considerably aged version of the original batch I rushed right out to buy more...only to find the newer batch ferociously, regrettably sweet. And so I aged this one in hopes that with a little time it would mature like the other one had.

Which it hasn't really. Like the child who's learned his first word and says nothing but, this beer knows sweetness and nothing else. Despite some earthiness, hops are an afterthought and, judging its thinness, it has been deprived of the proper malt bill required for a beer of its strength. That said, alcohol has also been excluded from the palate.

True to its intended abbey heritage, I've found this beer makes a wonderful pairing with simple monk foods: hearty, grainy breads, salty cheeses and dried fruits. Indeed, a little salt goes a long way in sedating the beer's malignant sweetness. Without the grub it's still worth downing but be sure to bring a big sweet-tooth. You'll need it.

Photo of stimulus
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a goblet.
Best by 12/2014. ABV 9.9%.

A: Pours a deep ruby with a beige head than never goes away.
S: Sweet dark fruits and caramel/sugary scent.
T: Much more pronounced dark fruits, like plums and figs, and feels like it will get more complex as it warms, but it only brings alcohol heat.
M: Heavy bodied, smooth, and well carbonated.
D: It's not too hard to drink, but pairing a heavy body with quite a bit of alcohol heat as it warms makes this sipper a bit harder to finish than most others of the same style.

Photo of zeff80
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Poured out a somewhat cloudy burgundy color with a one-finger, khaki colored head of foam. Nice retention and some patchy lacing.

S - It smelled of sweet, bready malts with a strong dried fruit aroma - mostly cherry.

T - It tasted really, really sweet and malty. Tons of Belgian candy sugar!. There were some dried fruit flavors like black cherry.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium to full bodied ale with a somewhat sticky mouthfeel.

D - This is an interesting Quad. It was incredibly sweet and malty. Not my favorite quad.

Photo of ThreeWiseMen
3.98/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

JustinA1 got this in a trade with joerodiii and decided to share. Thanks homes.

Poured into a Cigar City snifter.

Appearance: Body looked dull at first, but it shows rich brown, red and orange in light; nice autumn-y colors. A thin, loose, off-white halo sits atop for the entire session. Wish I had put this in a different glass - preferably one with an etched bottom - but it still looks decent.

Smell: Caramel, plums, cinnamon and spices, and a green grape/white wine-like twang. Alcohol becomes more apparent as it warms, but also adds a somewhat pleasant floral ester note.

Taste: Very similar to the smell, but with added spices (specifically cinnamon) and semi-pleasant esters. Alcohol is a bit more apparent than it should be, but I dig the complexity and overall flavor profile.

Motuhfeel: Actively carbonated, full bodied, and a little sugary/gritty. Finishes dry and produces a slow, warming sensation in the tummy. Not at all harsh.

Drinkability: This was a very pleasant and polished quadrupel. Though not great in any category, Justin and I really enjoyed it all the way through.

Photo of Zraly
3.53/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours deep amber with off-white head. Smell of dried fruit and alcohol.

Sweet rum flavor with a hint of earth. Dried cherries, sugar and a touch of spice. A bit "hot," as the alcohol is evident upfront and in the finish. Taste is good, but drinking more than one could be a chore.

A fire-side sipper. Or would be great with grilled medium-rare lamb chops.

Photo of Pencible
3.65/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A: This poured a nearly opaque dark mahogany with thick tan head.
S: It smelled like wild yeast with spicy wheat and caramel malt, with a little raisin and cocoa and grassy hops.
T: It tasted like wild yeast and spicy wheat and light caramel, with some floral hops and earthy cocoa and a little bit of dark fruit and alcohol. It had a bitter aftertaste with a little lingering sweetness and alcohol.
M: It was slick and slightly thick with smooth carbonation.
D: This was a good beer, but surprisingly not malty. It had great body, but it was pretty hot fresh, so it was definitely a sipper. Age would probably really help improve this beer, as it was a little rough fresh.

Photo of jnn4v
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Mid brown color. Moderate haze. Some sediment.

S: Belgian yeast. Belgian candy sugar. Alcohol. Something a bit funky / tart.

T: Caramel. Dates. Rock candy. Hops. More bitter than I'd imagine. Slightly hot from the alcohol. Seems like it needs more time to integrate and smooth out.

M: Very good body. Nice, smooth texture.

D: Reasonably drinkable, but needs more age. It is hot and slightly harsh when cold, and it is slightly rough when warm. Cellar temp worked best for taste / drinkability.

Photo of JAXSON
4.22/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Numerous 750ml bottles. Each bottle changes in character, in particular the 'sweetness' variable. First pour is dark mahogany with coca cola cherry red highlighst and a really big head. Hard to get a grasp of all the flavor components, but there's alot of rich, sweet mal, and dark fruits -- raisins, prunes, sweet figs, and caramel butterscotch candy. A bit of rum creeps in. The second pour is much cloudier -- as with all 750 Southamptons, thick and chewy, an elegant abbey-style quadruple. There's a faint sense of oak and hickory in there, but the swetness takes that over. The mouthfeel could be creamier, especially near the top of the bottle.

Photo of wyattshotmaker
4.03/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured into a tulip, nice light brown color with a persistent white head. slightly hazy.

not sure how old this bottle is, i would assume atleast a year or two. very mellow aroma, raisiny, rummy, with a hint of medicinal phenolics.

caramel sweetness up front, hints of fig, raisin, whole grain bread, cough syrup, bit of rum. finishes with a bit of warming alcohol.

mouthfeel is effervescent and fitting. this is a great beer, i wish i could get it all the time in ohio.

Photo of Derek
4.22/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I've cellared this for a while (2 yrs?), and it has mellowed nicely.

A: Clear, amber-chestnut, light tan head, thin ring of retention, light leg.

S: Sherry, raisins, cider, figs... plenty of alcohol in the nose.

T: Caramel, raisins, figs, prunes, dark bread, sponge toffee, candied pineapple, marmalade, vanilla, modest bitterness, slight alcohol warmth. This one's right up there with the big Belgians.

M: Moderately full body is smooth with a light residual sweetness.

D: Great for its strength.

Photo of axeman9182
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber, brought this one home from ACBF. Poured into my Duvel tulip

The beer pours a very dark brown, with hints of plum around the edges if held up to light. A decent, but not overly impressive tan head rises and leaves a fair amount of lacing, though head retention is a little bit weak. The nose has the expected dark fruit flavors, but there's also much more of a spicy yeast presence, which is somewhat intriguing. The taste is a little bit of a letdown, as yeasty spiciness from the nose disappears and the remaining malt sweetness tastes a little watered down (though still far from bad). There's a brief flash of alcohol warmth at the very end of each sip. The carbonation level is fine, but as the taste hinted at, the body of the beer is a little thin. Overall it's a pretty drinkable beer though, it's got a good flavor and the alcohol presence serves to add to the taste and avoids being harsh in any way. Southampton Abbot 12 is a good beer, but for my money a well executed quad is one of the best beers on the planet and this just doesn't quite measure up to that lofty standard.

Photo of perrymarcus
4.22/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 bottle served in st. bernardus oversized wineglass. bottle reads a 9.9 abv.

pours a deep, dark amber with a finger of white head. moderate retention, decent lacing.

nose is of yeast, dark fruits... malty with brown sugar notes. taste is a pleasant surprise - i was prepared to pan this as measured against its authentic belgian counterparts, but no. a lot going on here: raisins, sweet malts, brown sugar, some booze but by no means overpowering, yeast and other dark fruits. straddles the line of being too sweet but doesn't cross it. not on the level of the trappistes, but it's pretty damn tasty in its own right.

mouthfeel is okay, full bodied, medium carbonation. scores high in drinkability, i will be coming back for more.

Photo of Pahn
3.88/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle into Duvel tulip. Marked 12/22/14, so I'm going to assume it was bottled in December of 2009.

Appearance: Careful pour yields a two and a half inch offwhite, fizzy head that crackles and pops audibly and visibly, but dissipates slowly, leaving swatches of lacing. Bottle wasn't exactly a gusher, but a bit of foam rose out of the top upon popping the cork. Pours a beautiful deep red, and decorates the glass with long lasting streaks of lacing.

Smell: At first there's a very strong aroma of Belgian yeast, as well as some clove and coriander. The smell develops a deep, musky note reminiscent of cologne, then a weird, almost chlorine-like aroma. This airy, indoor pool smell comes to (unfortunately) dominate the aroma. Deeper into the glass, some of the estery goodness from the taste pops up in the nose, and the (perhaps hoppy) pool character subsides a bit.

Taste: Follows the initial smell; healthy dose of Belgian yeast, lots of spice, but additionally there's a deep caramel flavor and some nice dark fruit (closest to raisin i think) esters right off the bat. It's apparent early on that this is a reasonably successful American attempt at a quad. There's lots of development of flavor, transitioning through nice, rich toffee and caramel notes and deep, musty, intriguing dark fruit notes. Boozy finish, but not so much that it hides or intrudes on any of the delicious flavors.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied. Not particularly good... a bit too carbonated, yet not at all creamy. Kind of boring, but on the upside, not much to complain about (e.g. it's not too sugary or sticky, despite the decadent flavors, nor is it overwhelmingly hot despite the high ABV and noticeable alcohol flavor).

Drinkability: This beer doesn't hide its 10.5% ABV, but it delivers enough flavor to justify it. A good sipper, and decent representation of the style.

After the one-note, borderline disaster of Southampton Grand Cru, I was afraid to try this beer... I expected it would either be too simple, or taste like cola. I was pleasantly surprised to find an American quad that rivals Allagash 4. In terms of feel, taste, and aroma, Southampton's quad is not in the same league as Saint Bernardus or Trappistes Rochefort, but it's a good beer. I'll be happy to have this one again, and might throw one in the cellar to see what happens.

Photo of tmoneyba
4.1/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured a cloudy brown color with a large frothy off-white head that mostly lasted with good lacing. Moderate tart citrus and brown sugar aroma. Medium to full body with a sticky texture and fizzy carbonation. Heavy bittersweet flavor with a medium to heavy bittersweet finish of moderate duration. Good complex brew.

Photo of orbitalr0x
4.47/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2006 vintage bottle.

Deep cola brown pour with red highlights. Bone white bubbly head that falls quickly. Deep maltiness with raisins, dark fruits, caramel and toffee. Earthy, spicy yeast is lively and bright. Brown sugar and candi sugar accents. Great depth, incredibly enticing.

First sip brings smooth rich malts with warm caramel, brown sugar, raisins and a myriad of dark fruits. Bright Belgian yeast brings spiciness and earthy esters into the mix. Flows down incredibly rich, flavorful and malty. Never becomes over sweet, just a tasty brew.

Smooth mouthfeel, good carbonation and goes down easy. A real tasty American Quad and a bit sad I don't have any more bottles of this as I think it would last a few more years in the cellar without issue. Another winner from Southampton.

Photo of ShadesOfGray
4.55/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a cork and caged 750ml bottle into tall sniffer glass. Pours a deep brown solid/cloudy with a wonderful thick creamy head. Lacing is mild, but there. Aroma is wonderful. Very strong of raisins and over-ripe fruits. Malty and booze in scent too.
Wow! Impressed, very sweet and complex. Full bodied with tons of raisins and caramel notes. Heavy sweet malts and definite booze. Great beer!

Photo of JVEyck309
3.6/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bomber, corked and caged, poured into chalice glass

Looks soda like, near opaque dark redish brown with a small head which quickly becomes a thin sticky lacin smell is deep with sweet dark fruits, grapes, cherry vanilla soda taste is super sweet syrupy, and sugary; thick molasses, again, heavy on the dark fruits, coats the tongue with heavy sugary grape/raisin/etc flavors 9.9abv it's an enjoyable slow sipper, a bit too sweet in my opinion but no complaints as I enjoy the rest of the bottle. Carbonation is good, not too much not too little, slightly warming alcohol. Probably will wait a while before I get this again, but it's certainly a great brew. Cheers

Photo of WesWes
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The beer pours a translucent brown color with a 1/4" offwhite head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is great! It has a warm crystal and roasted malt scent along with a wondeful yeast aroma. It has some awesome dark fruit scents. The taste is good. It has a smooth crystal malt flavor that goes down easy and finishes warm with some excellent yeast esters. It's a well balanced beer with great yeast character and moderate warmth. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a very nice Belgian style ale. It highly drinkable and enjoyable.

Photo of Reagan1984
4/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear, deep amber color that appeared almost mahogany. Off white/egg shell colored fizzy head that fades quite quickly. Splotchy lacing sticks in the glass.

Aroma is earthy, malty with some sweetness and the slightest yeast tones.

There is a bit of alcohol as the flavor burst in your mouth. Not hot, but perceptible. Nicely complex flavors. Dates, prunes, cherries and a hint of white pepper. Not much yeast character, but the layers of fruit and malt tones add nice depth.

Smooth, silky mouth feel. Almost syrup like.

Very enjoyable. I like this.

Photo of jlindros
4.28/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml from the brewery poured into a goblet.

A: Big airy head that fades quickly, darker brown color with a touch of red hue and somewhat opaque

N: Nose has a strong dark malts with raisin and caramel, a slight yeasty sourness, and candi sugar, very reminiscent of a real Belgian 12

T: Taste is very complex, rich, dark and many combined flavors, it starts very sweet with lots of molases, candi sugar, raisins and dark fruit, some dark malts, a little yeast, alcohol comes through slightly, its somewhat creamy, the more I drink the more the sweetness blends together and makes it smoother and tastier.

M: Tts got a thick syrupy mouthfeel with lots of carbonation as it coats the tongue

F: It finishes very sweet with lots of raisin and prunes, a little alcohol, but leaves a strong dark Belgian style ale

Final thoughts: Its delicious but a little too sweet, which takes away from its drinkability. If it was fermented a touch more it would be really good. I have a couple more bottles that I will leave to age for a couple years and see how they turn out.

Southampton Abbot 12 from Southampton Publick House
89 out of 100 based on 235 ratings.