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Cardinal Sin
Laurelwood Public House & Brewery
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- From:
- Laurelwood Public House & Brewery
- Oregon, United States
- Style:
- Wild Ale
- ABV:
- 10%
- Score:
- 84
- Avg:
- 3.66 | pDev: 13.11%
- Reviews:
- 8
- Ratings:
- Status:
- Active
- Rated:
- Oct 04, 2015
- Added:
- Nov 18, 2011
- Wants:
- 3
- Gots:
- 0
The base beer is a lighter colored Belgian Quad, that was then blended with about 25% barrel aged Kriek style beer, that has been soured for over two years.
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Reviewed by stakem from Pennsylvania
4/5 rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
4/5 rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
750ml corked and caged bottle into a snifter. Big thanks are owed to BA Joefc for gifting me with a bottle of this during one of our many exchanges. The brew pours a clear copper color with big frothy off white cap that fades fast. A pen-line of lacey strings stick to the glass.
The smell is reminescent of something you would expect to be tart or wild. Lots of fruity indications that are even mildly lemony and lactic with a hint of wood. Some caramel malt to belgian style candy sweetness remains across the nose and gets a bit more exaggerated as it warms up.
The taste includes that previously smelled belgian candy sugar aspect along with a trace amount of clove and yeasty spice. A mild hint of fruit and pear or apple skins is also present. This is earthy with a quality about it reminescent of natural pitted cherry. Unfortunately there is also plenty of medicinal alcohol aspects that faintly blend into some trace barrel presence.
This is a medium bodied brew with a modest to light level of carbonation. It overall is a decent, unique creation. It wasnt until after drinking a couple glasses of this that I scratched my head and read the label and things started to make sense. The blending of these 2 styles is felt and recognized individually in this however im not completely sold on it working. The kriek portion really lightens up the quad aspect. The kriek is felt the most in the nose and pretty drowned out in the flavor. Worth a try regardless.
Jan 03, 2013The smell is reminescent of something you would expect to be tart or wild. Lots of fruity indications that are even mildly lemony and lactic with a hint of wood. Some caramel malt to belgian style candy sweetness remains across the nose and gets a bit more exaggerated as it warms up.
The taste includes that previously smelled belgian candy sugar aspect along with a trace amount of clove and yeasty spice. A mild hint of fruit and pear or apple skins is also present. This is earthy with a quality about it reminescent of natural pitted cherry. Unfortunately there is also plenty of medicinal alcohol aspects that faintly blend into some trace barrel presence.
This is a medium bodied brew with a modest to light level of carbonation. It overall is a decent, unique creation. It wasnt until after drinking a couple glasses of this that I scratched my head and read the label and things started to make sense. The blending of these 2 styles is felt and recognized individually in this however im not completely sold on it working. The kriek portion really lightens up the quad aspect. The kriek is felt the most in the nose and pretty drowned out in the flavor. Worth a try regardless.
Reviewed by PacNWDad from Washington
3.3/5 rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
3.3/5 rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Poured from a large bottle into a snifter. Pours a clear, reddish orange hue with lots of head that dissipates in to a thin layer with lace on sides of glass. A lot of carbonation for a quad. Aroma is of apple and cherry, with not much hops. Not much funk at all here, I would expect a bit more in a quad. Quite cider-like in taste. Sweet and sour; very little bitterness from the hops. A heavy beer, but not cloyingly so. Overall, I liked it but it is a tad off the mark for a quad.
Oct 28, 2012Reviewed by UCLABrewN84 from California
3.97/5 rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
3.97/5 rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Bottle pour courtesy of DrAwkward82 at Woodshop 7 held at Beachwood BBQ & Brewing in Long Beach, CA.
Pours a slightly murky honey orange with a foamy beige head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, brown sugar, caramel, sour cherries, and spice. Taste is much the same with the spices lingering on the finish with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with some solid aromas and flavors that make it easy to drink.
Jul 24, 2012Pours a slightly murky honey orange with a foamy beige head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, brown sugar, caramel, sour cherries, and spice. Taste is much the same with the spices lingering on the finish with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with some solid aromas and flavors that make it easy to drink.
Reviewed by HopHead84 from California
3.5/5 rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
3.5/5 rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
6/23/2102
Thanks for sharing. Snifter. Stubborn cork broke as I was removing it.
A: Transparent dark orange with a big beige head.
S: Orchard fruit is pervasive, mainly apple and pear, with dark cherry and big candied notes. There's a light sourness with some vinegar and woody notes. Malt is redolent of bread and caramel.
T: Candied sweetness blends with vinegar and a low tartness. Lots of dark cherry and Belgian yeast. Caramel, pear, apple, and sweet bread. Well hidden alcohol throughout.
M: Upper medium body with a high level of carbonation.
Overall: Doesn't remotely resemble a Quad or any BDSA, but it's a solid beer. Reminds me of a slightly sour Tripel.
Jul 03, 2012Thanks for sharing. Snifter. Stubborn cork broke as I was removing it.
A: Transparent dark orange with a big beige head.
S: Orchard fruit is pervasive, mainly apple and pear, with dark cherry and big candied notes. There's a light sourness with some vinegar and woody notes. Malt is redolent of bread and caramel.
T: Candied sweetness blends with vinegar and a low tartness. Lots of dark cherry and Belgian yeast. Caramel, pear, apple, and sweet bread. Well hidden alcohol throughout.
M: Upper medium body with a high level of carbonation.
Overall: Doesn't remotely resemble a Quad or any BDSA, but it's a solid beer. Reminds me of a slightly sour Tripel.
Reviewed by ccrida from Oregon
3.87/5 rDev +5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5
3.87/5 rDev +5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5
750ml poured into my large Gulden Draak tulip, Cardinal sin is a murky, ruddy brown with a small white head that leaves very light scattered, foamy lace.
Smell is sweet malt, a little fruitiness, tropical esters, and, oddly, frankincense - it took me a second to place that one, but now that I have, it's spot on.
Taste is pretty good, as a Flanders red. Yeasty, heavy on the cherry, rich, attenuated, estery malt, the decimation of the quad is present, but the lacto isn't quite there yet, but subjugated by the cherries in a serviceable manner. The tartness is light, and as easily attributed to the fruit as any barrel bugs.
Mouthfeel is slippery and medium-light bodied.
Drinkability is pretty good for a big, fruity Flanders. Not a quad anymore, so if that is your expectation, you'll be disappointed, but it's nevertheless a very nicely done Belgian style brew. The price though is too high, you can't help but compare this to Three Philosophers, even if the economies of scale for making your own kriek are against laurelwood, it's really not the consumer's problem...
Jun 16, 2012Smell is sweet malt, a little fruitiness, tropical esters, and, oddly, frankincense - it took me a second to place that one, but now that I have, it's spot on.
Taste is pretty good, as a Flanders red. Yeasty, heavy on the cherry, rich, attenuated, estery malt, the decimation of the quad is present, but the lacto isn't quite there yet, but subjugated by the cherries in a serviceable manner. The tartness is light, and as easily attributed to the fruit as any barrel bugs.
Mouthfeel is slippery and medium-light bodied.
Drinkability is pretty good for a big, fruity Flanders. Not a quad anymore, so if that is your expectation, you'll be disappointed, but it's nevertheless a very nicely done Belgian style brew. The price though is too high, you can't help but compare this to Three Philosophers, even if the economies of scale for making your own kriek are against laurelwood, it's really not the consumer's problem...
Reviewed by LiquidAmber from Washington
3.53/5 rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
3.53/5 rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Poured into a Ommegang flute. Pours a clear red orange amber with a half finger very light brown head that dissipated quickly with no lacing. Aroma of light and sour fruit, Belgian yeast and spicing. Unusual flavor of light fruit, Belgian spicing. Finishes bitter with a mixture of sweet and sour light fruit, citrus and a hint of cherries and wild yeast. A bit on the sour side for me, but fortunately the wild yeast component was not strong. Mouth feel is medium; a lot lighter bodied than most quads. This is not like any quad I've ever had, more like a wild yeast Belgian light ale. Points are reduced for not being to style. I don't think this is really an American wild ale either as categorized on BA; the Brett and wild yeasts are rather muted. Interesting enough that I'm glad I tried it, but I doubt I will return to this.
Jan 17, 2012Reviewed by HuskyinPDX from Washington
2.98/5 rDev -18.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3
2.98/5 rDev -18.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3
Last beer of 2011!
750ml bottle poured into a Tulip glass.
A - Pours a dark cloudy orange with a huge light tan head. The big bubbles fade fairly fast.
S - Belgian yeast dominates, the some pepper and lemons.
T - Tart citrus, most lemons.
D - Lots of carbonation, maybe to much. Thinner body as well. Very tart, but doesn't fit somehow.
O - A different beer, glad it was lighter, but I couldn't finish it.
Jan 02, 2012750ml bottle poured into a Tulip glass.
A - Pours a dark cloudy orange with a huge light tan head. The big bubbles fade fairly fast.
S - Belgian yeast dominates, the some pepper and lemons.
T - Tart citrus, most lemons.
D - Lots of carbonation, maybe to much. Thinner body as well. Very tart, but doesn't fit somehow.
O - A different beer, glad it was lighter, but I couldn't finish it.
Reviewed by BBThunderbolt from Kiribati
2.75/5 rDev -24.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3
2.75/5 rDev -24.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3
Served in Tulip. Poured a clear, clean reddish-amber color (a much lighter color and much more clear than any other Quad I've had) with a bit over an inch of off-white head that had very good retention and moderate lacing.
The aroma was fairly typical, although lighter and more subdued, of the style. Yeast, spice and fruitiness came through. The taste as well started off typical but then showed a tangier side that added a bit of a bite that I didn't think was a positive. Sadly there was also some buttery diacetyl going on.
The body was a fair bit thinner than average and much thinner than I enjoy in this, one of my favorites, style. Drinkability was decent. Overall, not a great take on the style, I certainly wouldn't give this to someone as their first Quad. This one is probably for us tickers, the rest of you can safely pass.
Nov 18, 2011The aroma was fairly typical, although lighter and more subdued, of the style. Yeast, spice and fruitiness came through. The taste as well started off typical but then showed a tangier side that added a bit of a bite that I didn't think was a positive. Sadly there was also some buttery diacetyl going on.
The body was a fair bit thinner than average and much thinner than I enjoy in this, one of my favorites, style. Drinkability was decent. Overall, not a great take on the style, I certainly wouldn't give this to someone as their first Quad. This one is probably for us tickers, the rest of you can safely pass.
Cardinal Sin from Laurelwood Public House & Brewery
Beer rating:
84 out of
100 with
17 ratings
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