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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 - BrewDog

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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966

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BA SCORE
88
very good

101 Ratings
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Ratings: 101
Reviews: 63
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 10.46%
Wants: 4
Gots: 11 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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United Kingdom (Scotland)

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Port Dundas 1966 barrels

(Beer added by: brewdlyhooked13 on 11-10-2008)
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Reviews by erz316:
Photo of erz316
3.8/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

batch 013 with a best before of 02/02/10, served into la chouffe snifter.

A - christ almighty! have they even bothered to prime any of these goddamn beers?! the head is nothing more than the offspring of the increasingly hard pour i made. the colour is a light cream. the body is super pitch black. looks pretty much like the islay one I just had. I dont really know what to say, they all pretty much look the same disappointing way. these oak casks must be fucking magical because they suck out all the carbonation and body from these brews, except for the very first one I had.

S - this one, however, does smell a bit different. a little less smokiness, less peat, and a bit more malts. there is this a odd caramel-port/sweet wine note that is slightly fruity; maybe even a touch of cocoa powder. the only problem with all of this is that the brew doesn't smell very strongly, it is quite weak and one has to search for the aromas; but they smell pretty good, so i'll bump up the score.

T - the taste is the best so far of the recent ones had. the initial is a huge amount of malts, raisins, figs, some brown sugar, and whiskey spiciness and alcohol. I really enjoy this flavour but I cant find much that makes me think 'stout!'. the fig raisin thing it has going on is quite good; the sweetness from this sensation is most like a brown sugar, with a touch of raw molasses. the finish is much sweeter than would be expected: there is a distinct prune taste, quite very much pruny. the aftertaste is a bit astringent , but mostly malty and charred oaken whiskey. a nice finish for a questionable stout.

MF&D - that is not the texture of an imperial stout, yet again. this one might be the thickest yet of all the recent ones i've tried, but at best it is a medium. the carbonation is still lacking enough to really bring down the score. the drinkability is alright, but I want something big, carbonated, and thick (much like my penis, sans the carbonated aspect)!

I have to approximate what I thought the ratings are, because the goddamn site crashed when trying to submit a review.

erz316, Sep 18, 2009
More User Reviews:
Photo of warnerry
3.48/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Best by 2/2/10

A - Pours very deep brown with almost no head. What little head there was fades very quickly and leaves no lacing.

S - Nice vanilla and oak whiskey notes, along with some nice dark fruits. A bit of chocolate and faint coffee. Smells very nice.

T - Unfortunately, taste doesn't live up to the smell. Has many of the same elements, just a bit watered down. Not bad, there are some nice flavors and the touch of whiskey on the finish is nice, but a bit of a let down after the smell

M - Thin mouthfeel takes away from what is a promising beer.

O - Decent, but not a real standout. And the price point only adds to the sense of disappointment.

warnerry, Nov 11, 2011
Photo of merlin48
4.15/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Numbered 11.2 ounce bottle. Pours into a snifter an opaque deep dark brown body with no head. Some spotty lacing.

Aroma has toffee, dark chocolate, dried figs, and some Scotch whisky booziness.

Mouthfeel is about medium bodied, seeming even thinner. Low carbonation enhancrd the smooth character.

Taste is the highlight of this interesting brew. Notes of old leather, dark chocolate, toffee, figs, vanilla, peat, charcoal,oak, and Scotch whiskey play off each other well. Alcohol is hidden very well, to my surprise. There is a vague fruitiness in addition to the figs and raisins that is hard to place.

Surprisingly easy to drink, but I think a tad more carbonation would have enhanced the experience.

merlin48, Jan 17, 2010
Photo of GratefulBeerGuy
4.2/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle for $11.99 ea.

Of course this puppy is opaque! a thin and rather fizzy tan colored head dissipates fast and appears pretty relaxed which great since it's been layed down on cask fora while.

The nose has aged leather, musty dates, spicey raisins, herbal whiskey and a heat tingle. Dark and dank berries with roastie and sweet malt aroma's. Smells very much like the 30-year old Courage IRS i had last year...without the oxodized effects. Bold aroma's of old leather and berry sweetness makes this one unique indeed.

Very roastie malts hits first with herbs and camp-fire effects. Oats and wheat in the malt which has a bunch of unique complexity is balanced by a very subtle hoppy bitterness that settles into dry leaf with thyme and white pepper. Vanilla just bursts out of the malt, which is gained from the cask aging, and just a slight bit of not-so-sweet chocolate. This one might have just too much vanilla and aged furniture for my taste, but it's unique. A mellow whiskey-like heat without any of the actual burn sensation. A mellow, aged medium to full feel that is very relaxed, but not slick.

this one was very much like the classic courage IRS, only with more vanilla from the cask.

GratefulBeerGuy, Jun 29, 2009
Photo of dirtylou
3.88/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle - Star. best by 2/2/10, hmm

appearance: poured into oversized snifter - flat pour with almost no head and a very small number of beige bubbles, mahogany body

smell: aroma leans towards scotch and butterscotch, dry malts, not overly complex

taste: smooth and well refined - creamy caramel, butterscotch, milk chocolate, scotch. It barely feels like an imperial stout - the scotch aging is less pronounced then i wasnt overly moved by the base stout

mouthfeel: nice smooth body, creamy, but relatively flat

drinkability: fine

dirtylou, Jun 06, 2010
Photo of seedsofchaos
2.85/5  rDev -27.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Was able to score this beer at my local bottle shop for a special toast for NYE. A bit pricey at $13/bottle but I figured it might be worth it for ringing in the new year as it came highly recommended by my local's resident beer geek. I was under-impressed with this Paradox and think that some of the better reviews might actually stem from the rarity of the brew instead of the actual overall quality.

I was excited with the pour as this Imperial bellowed into our glasses a perfect jet black. I imagined fanciful aromas from the 1966 Port Dundas barrels as the thin head materialized and then... collapsed under the alcohol's weight. Dark khaki bubbles skim the surface of this black lagoon but no bouquet flung itself into my nostrils as I had hoped.

A bit of green wood, a bit of roast, a touch of vanilla, a touch of bourbon... a touch of this... a touch of that... If noses could cry...

Flavor echoes bouquet. Not much here. A bit of smokey/charred oak, a bit of baker's chocolate, a touch of sweetness and maybe some vanilla. Under everything there is a slight taste of bourbon. I had gone in expecting too much. I wanted a flavor explosion but received a sparkler.

Body is much to thin for a double or imperial anything. Medium-light. Almost borders on light enough to take shots of it...

I'm not really for ticking, but this would really be the only reason why I could see someone buying a bottle of this Paradox. Sure, it's rare. Sure, your friends probably have never had it. But, when you could use the same money to buy 2 or 3 great brews, why bother?

seedsofchaos, Jan 03, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Our group of 4 Beer Advocate members did a recent small bottle tasting of high alcohol brews.
Among the 12 brews tasted was; Paradox Port Dunas Americam Double imperial Stout from BrewDog. This brew did not do well in our tasting finishing dead last in 12th with an average
rating of 3.50. Although the age of this bottle was likely the reason. It was 6 years old. The other
BrewDog we tasted (Tokyo) finished 4th with an average rating of 4.25

ricknelson, Jan 27, 2014
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4/5  rDev +2%

ohiobeer29, Oct 22, 2013
Photo of nickthetick
4.13/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: pure black into my trusted Duvel tulip with a few light tan bubbles.
S: GOOD GOD! This smells like my first shot of scotch all over again but with a little dark cocoa and some roasted malt. Frightening overall smell.

T: surprisingly smooth, not at all what the nose suggest. A oaky wood and vanilla flavor right up front. Some roasted malt sweetness and dark chocolate notes. Smokey in the back and I could notice the alcohol but its not overpowering.

MF: medium body, oily and a tad chewy. Flat as my middle school girlfriend (extremely) and warming in the mouth.

D: a nice beer when you can get over the smell, from what I've read in other reviews flat is not a "my bottle only" problem. The price cuts down on the drink ability also.

nickthetick, Jan 11, 2011
Photo of oso
3/5  rDev -23.5%

oso, Mar 13, 2014
Photo of Bung
4.03/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz. Surprised by the only moderately dark brown pour, minimal whispy cream colored head. Aroma has some roast, but nice vanilla, caramel and light oak tones. A bit lighter bodied than I would like also, but coats the mouth ok. Taste has a nice blend of caramel, vanilla and barrel. Chocolate is there, some roast malt, zero coffee. Just hints of coffee and barrel booze in the finish. Real nice balanced double stout, but for the 12 bucks I paid, not sure it was worth it. Just not quite enough of everything stout, but the barrel was nicely done. Will say it was pretty easy drinking for a big beer.

Bung, Jul 11, 2009
Photo of gillagorilla
3.5/5  rDev -10.7%

gillagorilla, Nov 03, 2014
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4/5  rDev +2%

wesley14, Oct 08, 2012
Photo of bluejacket74
4.03/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle, best before 2/2/2010. Served in a snifter, the beer pours black with pretty much no head at all. Not much lacing, either. Nice aroma, it smells like dark fruit, smoke, vanilla, oak and scotch whisky. Taste is similar to the aroma, but there's also some peppery spice and bittersweet chocolate noticable too. I like the taste, but it seems a bit mild compared to the aroma. I was expecting this to have a little more of a kick to it. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's very thin for a stout. It is smooth and has low carbonation, which makes this brew easy to drink. It's a good beer, but because of the price I wouldn't drink this very often. But it is definitely worth trying if you're into barrel aged beers.

bluejacket74, Jul 05, 2009
Photo of TheKingsOfHop
3.23/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Batch 013 with a best before of 02/02/10;
Poured into tulip shaped glasses:

A: Black body with a tan foam edge around the top.

S: Strong vanilla with a whiskey and butterscotch aroma. Undertones of dark fruit, molasses, and oak.

M: Light to medium body, warm chest from the ABV. No carbonation at all.

D: Expensive, and not at all what we expected. This seems to be the road Brew Dog has been taking lately. Very Unfortunate...

Cheers,
The Kings Of Hop

TheKingsOfHop, Nov 02, 2009
Photo of LiquidAmber
3.98/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review from 9/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours pitch black with a hint of dark tan head and little carbonation, surprisingly the tiny foam around the glass forms a slight lacing. Very faint aroma of dark malts and whiskey. Nice mouth feel. Very light taste of dark malts, chocolate, molasses and faint whiskey. Mellow dark malt and whiskey finish. Well balanced and integrated, maybe a bit too much so, there is little to get excited about. A smooth, pleasant, but rather subdued barrel aged stout.

LiquidAmber, Aug 01, 2012
Photo of mikesgroove
4.1/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Looked on the back of the bottle and this is clearly marked Batch 13.
 
I received this one a little while back and decided to grab it out of the fridge last night and give it a try. I wasn't overly thrilled with the first one I tried but this one suited me much better. Served cold and poured into a snifter, this one was consumed on 02/03/2010.
 
Pitch dark, black as night it comes out of the bottle and hits the glass. Not much at all in the way of carbonation, in fact it leaves a bare top with no lacing here what so ever. Really nice looking color and I have come to expect this look with the style. Aroma is loaded with woody notes. Hints of tobacco and leather start to come through immediately. Rich, smoky, and not as sweet as I would have thought. Old aged leather would be the best descriptor of the aroma. Smooth, even keeled feel here. Not highly carbonated at all, but not thin either, it seems to work for me. Rich enough to keep me interested for sure. Flavor is smoked malts, leather and tobacco again, with a hint of dark wood like notes. Light touch of vanilla, but very light and the finish is dry with an almost licorice like bite at the end.
 
Overall this was pretty darn good I have to admit. Could not taste the ten percent here at all, and the barrel really seems to shine here, showing that it can enhance the natural flavors and not go overboard. A fine, fine example of the style.

mikesgroove, Feb 04, 2010
Photo of bigbeers84
4.25/5  rDev +8.4%

bigbeers84, Sep 24, 2013
Photo of mfnmbvp
3.6/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 fl oz. bottle, Batch No. 013, bottled on 02/02/2008, aged nearly seven years. My first of any of the Paradox beers from BrewDog, this one their "imperial stout aged in a former Port Dundas 1966 cask". My 1000th beer review on BeerAdvocate, and I couldn't be more excited. Acquired this gem from the local Ardmore Station Liquors.

Poured into a Duvel tulip glass.

A - Served cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption; it pours a dark chocolate brown; opaque in the glass with hardly any conjuration of head, merely some mocha colored bubbles. The beer has clearly lost a lot of carbonation over the course of time, and appears much more watery and less viscous than I had imagined.

S - The aroma comes through nicely, but it has also noticeably fallen off. Notes of chocolate, cocoa, vanilla, oak wood, some indistinct raisin / plum / fig dark fruitiness. I suppose very minor alcohol fumes are still detectable.

T - The taste follows the nose - notes of chocolate, vanilla, oak, cream, raisins. A very nice flavor profile, but a bit too tamed by time it seems. No alcohol warmth or presence is noted at all.

M - Smooth and mellow at this point. The carbonation has fallen off ridiculously; the beer is watery at this point.

Overall, like others have said: this beer's best days have come and gone. Glad to have tried it, but it wasn't worth what I paid for it at this point. If anyone is still holding down bottles of this, I'd recommend drinking them ASAP, because this beer is not improving with age. However, I look forward to trying other variants of this beer.

BrewDog Paradox Port Dundas -----3.5/5

mfnmbvp, Oct 29, 2014
Photo of dsshuck
3.5/5  rDev -10.7%

dsshuck, May 20, 2014
Photo of camil1mj
3.7/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I have drank a lot of good beer, but this is my first review.

Bottle says best before 2/2/2010. Poured into my Bell's tulip glass at cellar temperature.
A: Dark as night. No light shines through
S: Chocolate with a slight hint of alcohol.
T: This is a lot less intense than I would have guessed from the description. I would use the term weak. Chocolate and whiskey are the two tastes I can really pick up on.
M: The feel is disappointing. it is very thin for my expectations of a barrel-aged stout.
O: This is an average barrel-aged stout. I have had better and worse. The smell is the best thing going for it.

camil1mj, May 30, 2011
Photo of megahurts4
3.85/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewdog Paradox Port Dundas

Appearance: dark brown, no head, and no lacing.

Smell: caramel and toffee.

Taste: caramel, toffee, and a slight cocoa.

Mouthfeel: medium-light and smooth.

Overall:
This is much lighter than anticipated. The flavors are subtle and rich.

megahurts4, May 27, 2011
Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.95/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle. Went in with a friend on this bottle. Just couldn't justify $12.99 for a 12oz bottle.

Pours a dark brown, nearly black in color. No head forms on the pour. Smell is some rich port, and some dark roasted malts. Even more of the rich port like qualities come through in the taste. Very balanced and well done.
This is just a bit thin to be qualified as an Imperial Stout. Not close to some of the more viscous, fuller bodied Imperial Stouts out there.
Decent beer, but definitely not worth the price of the bottle. I could get two 12oz bottles of Bourbon County and still have some money left over.

FtownThrowDown, Jun 06, 2009
Photo of wedgie9
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tasted from bottle at Lush Roscoe. Pours a nearly opaque dark brown with a tinge of amber and almost no head, just some lace around the edges. Nose is dark amber malt with some nuttiness and dried fruits. Raisin, prune, and fig are all present. There dark chocolate, coffee, vanilla and molasses on the nose. The flavors are very similar, starting off with the dried fruits and molasses, and moving to the sweet malt and vanilla, and finishing with the bitterness of coffee and dark chocolate. Then comes the oaky finish of vanilla and a hint of cinnamon. The body is heavy with low carbonation and a long oaked finish. This beer is excellently balanced and hides the alcohol content well. Funny, since it says the best by date was several months ago...

wedgie9, Sep 27, 2010
Photo of IBUnit63
3.73/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Room temperature into Duvel tulip. Batch 13 with BBD 2/2/2010.

Head of dried ginger comes and goes quickly, leaving wisps up top. Body is slightly turbid yet dark brown - root beer/espresso brown.

Nose is very subtle for malt texture - port and whiskey, along with vanilla oak, dominate here. Oh yeah...the booze is there, too. Big time. Brings out milk chocolate notes. Hops? Noble at most - very mild...grass? Pine? Too mellow to make an impression.

Port shows up here but it's slightly watered down against the oak/vanilla backdrop. Now the roasted chocolate malt comes out more clearly and counters the booze. Even some hop grass shows up.

Palate isn't bad - tight with coffee, booze and a little hoppy grass. A little clammy up front. Not a lot of Beautiful Chemistry here. Pretty disjointed, and finish is sort of tepid.

2 Brewdog offerings sampled so far, with 2 disappointments. This one is OK but there are much better. There's really no synergy to speak of, and that's the real issue. Good individual components and they just don't connect. None have real power to me, either, so I can't imagine age helping too terribly much.

IBUnit63, Feb 12, 2009
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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 from BrewDog
88 out of 100 based on 101 ratings.