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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 - BrewDog

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Reviews: 65
Hads: 105
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 7.91%
Wants: 4
Gots: 11 | FT: 0
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United Kingdom (Scotland)

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: brewdlyhooked13 on 11-10-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Port Dundas 1966 barrels
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Photo of nickthetick
4.03/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: pure black into my trusted Duvel tulip with a few light tan bubbles.
S: GOOD GOD! This smells like my first shot of scotch all over again but with a little dark cocoa and some roasted malt. Frightening overall smell.

T: surprisingly smooth, not at all what the nose suggest. A oaky wood and vanilla flavor right up front. Some roasted malt sweetness and dark chocolate notes. Smokey in the back and I could notice the alcohol but its not overpowering.

MF: medium body, oily and a tad chewy. Flat as my middle school girlfriend (extremely) and warming in the mouth.

D: a nice beer when you can get over the smell, from what I've read in other reviews flat is not a "my bottle only" problem. The price cuts down on the drink ability also. (746 characters)

Photo of madamebeer
4.27/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I am normally not one for such dark beers but this one really did blow me out of the water.

Appearance: Very dark with a decent amount of head.

Taste: very balanced with good notes of vanilla, chocolate, hint of malt.

Mouthfeel- very smooth and left and wonderful aftertaste (278 characters)

Photo of artcurtis
4.38/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a large snifter.
A - Pours a deep brown. When held to light some comes through, and the edges look a bit like a brown ale, but the center is deep black. Brown head disappears almost instantly, and it doesn't seem to be very carbonated.

S - I get mostly vanilla and alcohol out of this. The combo is pretty nice. Not the biggest nose ever, but smells pretty good. Maybe a bit of chocolate too. None of the flavors is particularly overwhelming.

T - I really dig this. Extremely smooth. Very rich vanilla flavors up front, with alcohol finishing it off. The whiskey barrels have definitely imparted some smoothness, but not much bourbon flavor. Too many Bourbon Barrels taste like they have a shot dropped into them. This doesn't at all. It's there, it's helping, but first and foremost this is an excellent stout. It isn't too hot, either. The booze is there, but not overwhelming. Overall, wonderfully balanced. Some people have noted the lack of carbonation, and normally I would agree with them. However, in this case, I like it.

M - Nice and smooth. Feels...substantial on the tongue. Very enjoyable.

D - One of the few big stouts I've had that I feel I could just grab another right away. Too bad its sitting at 12 bucks a 12ounce.

Overall, a really wonderful beer. If you can find it, I think that it is head and shoulders above the 2010 Odells Bourbon Barrel. Highly recommended. (1,404 characters)

Photo of sisuspeed
3.74/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter. A thin, off-white, film rests on top of a fairly dark body. Light lacing.

The nose is filled with sweet malts, chocolate, cherries, honey and a touch of sea salt. Nice floral honey notes. Plums and figs. Nice depth. Hint of alcohol.

Vanilla, dark roasted malts, light honey and a touch of dark fruit. Some saltiness and oaky wood. There are some nice notes going on here, but Brewdog has done better than this. Still a tasty brew though.

Mouthfeel is smooth, but unfortunately flat. Some lingering bitterness from the malt and wood. I think the lack of bubbles is hurting this beer the most.

Drinkability is pretty good. This is the third beer in the Paradox series that I've had and it seems that Brewdog knows how to use there barrels. However, the Isle of Arran is still my favorite. Looking forward to trying some of the others. (859 characters)

Photo of wedgie9
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tasted from bottle at Lush Roscoe. Pours a nearly opaque dark brown with a tinge of amber and almost no head, just some lace around the edges. Nose is dark amber malt with some nuttiness and dried fruits. Raisin, prune, and fig are all present. There dark chocolate, coffee, vanilla and molasses on the nose. The flavors are very similar, starting off with the dried fruits and molasses, and moving to the sweet malt and vanilla, and finishing with the bitterness of coffee and dark chocolate. Then comes the oaky finish of vanilla and a hint of cinnamon. The body is heavy with low carbonation and a long oaked finish. This beer is excellently balanced and hides the alcohol content well. Funny, since it says the best by date was several months ago... (753 characters)

Photo of jpell33
3.92/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Good beer but my first from Brewdog, so probably had high expectation going into it.

Poured flat and had distinct flavors from the cask.

Very smooth and sweet taste. Whiskey from the barrel has a distinct impact on the flavor. Good start for me with Brewdog. Can't wait to try some of the other batches. (305 characters)

Photo of Naugros
3.76/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Poured flat, with just a few bubbles. I can count them if you want. I had to check other reviews to see if maybe what I received was a bad bottle, but this seems to be a common complaint. Not a good start. It's really dark brown and inky, but so are all stouts.

Smells like whiskey with a wee bit of chocolate...sorry, Brew Dog is in Scotland so it should be spelled without an "E". Also, Port Dundas is a Scotch whisky. LOL, spellcheck is saying that I spelled "whisky" wrong. The programmer must have been Irish.

Anyway, back to this beer. It's time to taste it, but I'm afraid to. Courage Beer Samurai, courage. Ooh, it tastes a lot better than it smells. Chocolate and coffee bring in a sweetness that I hadn't expected. The whisky flavor is still there, but mitigated and it seems that the barrel conditioning did more than pick up a whisky flavor, it brought some oak as well. There's a bitterness in the aftertaste, but I can't tell if it's from a hops presence or due to the roasted grains. With no citrus, floral or grassy flavors to be found I'll go with the latter. Do yourself a favor and drink this at room temperature. The whisky is even further mitigated (even if still thought spelled incorrectly) and the bitterness is taken down a notch, letting the sweetness shine through. Much nicer.

It's 10% ABV and it smells and tastes of whisky. So it's going to sound really strange when I say that the alcohol is hidden pretty well. There's no vinous sensation and no heat. Do not confuse whisky flavor with alcohol heat. The beer is satiny in texture and goes down smoothly. Oh yeah, and it's flat.

Not an everyday beer, but more of a "I want to try something a little different" beer. It's nice, I like it, but for my money I'd rather have a Weyerbacher Heresy. (1,779 characters)

Photo of dirtylou
3.85/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle - Star. best by 2/2/10, hmm

appearance: poured into oversized snifter - flat pour with almost no head and a very small number of beige bubbles, mahogany body

smell: aroma leans towards scotch and butterscotch, dry malts, not overly complex

taste: smooth and well refined - creamy caramel, butterscotch, milk chocolate, scotch. It barely feels like an imperial stout - the scotch aging is less pronounced then i wasnt overly moved by the base stout

mouthfeel: nice smooth body, creamy, but relatively flat

drinkability: fine (540 characters)

Photo of AgentZero
4.02/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to bosse for hooking me up with this.

A - Black colored, not much brown on the edges, doesn't look super viscous, but nice looking. Pretty much non-existant head, although a bit of a cap bubbled up after the pour.

S - Roasted malts, some bitter coffee, carmel smell. It smells nice, nothing groundbreaking, but solid. A bit of a ginsengy type smell, probably wood from the cask aging.

T - Mellow bourbon taste, some roasted/sweet malts, carmel, and great vanilla taste comes through on this. This is actually quite good.

M - Too thin, and needs a touch more carbonation.

D - Starts out tough to drink, but gets better as it gets warmer. This is a nice sipper. (672 characters)

Photo of ShadesOfGray
3.62/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a snifter tasting glass. Pours a semi-dark brownish black, fills the glass dark as night...with no head at all, just a couple bubbles around the outside edge. No lacing either.

Aroma is wine-like. Bourbon like notes, bitter-sweet dark chocolate, and of course...very malty.

This came highly recommended, but I'd have to say I'm a little let down. There's definitely some sweet and bitter dark chocolate notes, a strong booze flavor and warmth in the mouth and down the throat...and semi-medium body and smooth. Although, there's a complete lack of carbonation and it's killing the mouthfeel and taste slightly. Overall though, there's some great flavors associated with this beer...even a little oak, just was expecting more. (758 characters)

Photo of brdc
3.87/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Small capped bottle, poured into a snifter.
Bottle states best by 02/02/10, not sure when this was bottled.

Dark brown color, golden highlights, minimal short lasting dark tan head, no lacing. Quickly, the beer looks as flat as possible.
Aroma is pleasant but tame, whisky, vanilla, oak, faint roasted malts.
Thin on the palate, with minimal carbonation, which detracts from the overall taste and experience.
The taste itself is also tame, pleasant, but needs a bit more power; vanilla, whisky, some roasted malts.
This is a good beer, but somewhat disappointing particularly considering the absurdly high price ($12). (621 characters)

Photo of sweemzander
4.05/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

11.2oz. bottle poured into a snifter. Best by 02/02/10, but I have a feeling this would last for longer.

(A)- Pours so black, its pure & utter darkness in a bottle! Produced a ton of semi-transparent tan bubbles.

(S)- Deep & rich roasted raisin & molasses. Hints at toffee & brown sugar. Definite but subtle vanilla & oak with a boozy grain.

(T)- Same as the smell; exactly like the smell actually. Finishes with a light creaminess from that subtle vanilla & oak. You can definitely taste the whiskey nuances on the finish; again, subtle though.

(M)- A good carbonation for the style. Very well balanced and smooth too; not overwhelmingly boozy or whiskey-like. I think the age smoothed this out & meshed everything together better. In no way is it boozy like I was expecting either; still present but much less than I thought.

(D)- Ok, so I was wrong in almost every expectation I had before drinking this beer, but I was glad it proved me wrong though. A smooth drinker with a dynamic complexity that is quite tasty. Age helped in this regard, but I think that it doesnt have very much life left in it. 4 to 6 more months & this might probably have gone too far. Good stuff though. (1,193 characters)

Photo of ColForbinBC
4.02/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle, poured into a snifter
(consumed on 1/10/10, from notes)

Pours a dirty engine oil with very few brown bubbles that I can't even call a head.

Scotch heavy nose with oak, raisins, dark cherries, and a pleasant dose of vanilla.

A rich dark malt bill with a touch of smokiness, wood, and vanilla from the barrel. Cocoa powder, raisins and dark cherries round out the flavor profile with a sturdy dose of blackstrap molasses.

To say this is undercarbonated is a gross understatement. This guy is flat. So, with the best buy date of early Feb, I won't judge too hard. Otherwise, oily slick and medium bodied.

This is a big, bold beer with a ton of flavor. A sipper to be enjoyed over time. For me, carbonation issues aside, I found this to be enjoyable in doses. I needed to take my time to digest all that was going on. (832 characters)

Photo of JerseyDevil980
4.22/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is the 2nd beer I have had in the Paradox Series and I must say I enjoy the beers from BrewDog and want to try more. It pours as dark as can be and has no noticeable head. Its got a ncie aroma probably as a result of the aging in the Port Dundas Whiskey cask, its smooth and not an over pouring scent. It has a slightly sweet taste that is highly enjoable and it finishes very smooth. This was part of Batch 13 (415 characters)

Photo of brc
4.09/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Best by last week. I'll risk it.

There was a bit of a hiss when popped, but this is basically uncarbonated. A few soapy bubbles when poured into my flute, emphasis on few. Pitch black liquid.

Smells kinda boozy - more like spiced rum than whisky to me. It does have a rich earthy or woody smell underneath.

Very sweet; tastes alot like toffee pudding with raisins. (In a good way). Toasty and chocolaty upfront, with the raisins kicking in later. Hint of blackberries, maybe. Bitterness is very low, coming from roasted malt. No noticeable hop character at this age.

Mouthfeel is a bit thin for an imperial stout, or very thin compared to some. Feels coating rather than thick.

Very smooth and drinkable. The flavor is really enticing, opening up as it warms. No alcohol flavor or feel. Strange head behavior aside, this is a very good beer. (846 characters)

Photo of mikesgroove
4.1/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Looked on the back of the bottle and this is clearly marked Batch 13.
 
I received this one a little while back and decided to grab it out of the fridge last night and give it a try. I wasn't overly thrilled with the first one I tried but this one suited me much better. Served cold and poured into a snifter, this one was consumed on 02/03/2010.
 
Pitch dark, black as night it comes out of the bottle and hits the glass. Not much at all in the way of carbonation, in fact it leaves a bare top with no lacing here what so ever. Really nice looking color and I have come to expect this look with the style. Aroma is loaded with woody notes. Hints of tobacco and leather start to come through immediately. Rich, smoky, and not as sweet as I would have thought. Old aged leather would be the best descriptor of the aroma. Smooth, even keeled feel here. Not highly carbonated at all, but not thin either, it seems to work for me. Rich enough to keep me interested for sure. Flavor is smoked malts, leather and tobacco again, with a hint of dark wood like notes. Light touch of vanilla, but very light and the finish is dry with an almost licorice like bite at the end.
 
Overall this was pretty darn good I have to admit. Could not taste the ten percent here at all, and the barrel really seems to shine here, showing that it can enhance the natural flavors and not go overboard. A fine, fine example of the style. (1,420 characters)

Photo of merlin48
4.12/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Numbered 11.2 ounce bottle. Pours into a snifter an opaque deep dark brown body with no head. Some spotty lacing.

Aroma has toffee, dark chocolate, dried figs, and some Scotch whisky booziness.

Mouthfeel is about medium bodied, seeming even thinner. Low carbonation enhancrd the smooth character.

Taste is the highlight of this interesting brew. Notes of old leather, dark chocolate, toffee, figs, vanilla, peat, charcoal,oak, and Scotch whiskey play off each other well. Alcohol is hidden very well, to my surprise. There is a vague fruitiness in addition to the figs and raisins that is hard to place.

Surprisingly easy to drink, but I think a tad more carbonation would have enhanced the experience. (708 characters)

Photo of olympuszymurgus
4.84/5  rDev +23.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

part 2 in a series

Is this even legal? Are we allowed to have this much fun? isn't the economy failing and atmosphere warming and everything just falling into a pile of rubble?

Poured into a pint glass, along with three other paradoxen. The smell is scotch. I actually feel inadequate in tasting it, because my knowledge of scotch is so limited. The taste, well, its everything from licorice and caramel to peat and smoke, dead british soldiers and virgin redheads.

Best served with bloody meat, good friends, and sillyness. The perfect beer for these uncertain times. (572 characters)

Photo of Patrick999
4.24/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Batch 013, best by 2/2010.

Poured into a DFH snifter with very minimal head. Nearly flat dark brown. I know from experiences with the other Paradox bottles that this does *not* mean it's a bad beer. It just isn't amazing eye candy, that's all.

Aroma of Raisinets, rum, butter cookies, and a little Scotch. Doesn't seem to be as much of a smoke bomb as the Islay or Smokehead.

Well, this tastes simply excellent. I have no complaints about this at all. Raisinets in the flavor as well, though unsweetened. Scotch, yes, but not heavily smoked. Smooth, barely a hint of alcohol heat.

Feel is flat and a little thin, but I think I've said this before, the flat feel works with these beers and contributes to their drinkability. Very nice. (742 characters)

Photo of tpd975
3.9/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to Bosse for sending this one across the pond.

A: Pours a nice dark brownish black with a few bubbles that never really manage to make a head. No retention or lace.

S: Subtle aromas for a barrel aged beer. Hints of sweet molasses, vanilla, oak, and a touch of booze.

T: Nice caramel sweetness up front. Subtle chocolate malt and hints of peat. Fresh oak and subtle vanilla. A hint of bourbon beneath.

M: Not thin overall, but very thin for the style. Fairly still could use a touch of carbonation.

D: Fairly good. Despite being thin and subtle in flavor and aroma it does seem to meld together nicely. Overall it is a tasty beer that is more drinkable than the other Paradox beers I have had. (718 characters)

Photo of coldmeat23
4.49/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

GLASS: Snifter
TEMP: Cellared @ approx 50 degrees
BATCH: 013 BEST BY: 02/02/10

This pours a super dark brown color. There isn't much of a head at all, just a small island of bubbles, in the middle of the surface. Lacing is in small spots and tiny strands and fairly sticky.

The bourbon notes and the maltiness really achieve a very good level of balance, in this one. Malt notes are both sweet and roasty. Nice presence of oak, vanilla, honey and a hint of floral. Mild hints of caramel and cocoa powder and peat smokiness.
This is the best, most balanced, nose that I've yet to find from any of the Brewdog Paradox series.

The taste is almost as good as the smell. A nice, rich, maltiness is balanced by the dry, light smokiness, that is imparted by the barrel aging. Hints of cocoa, tobacco, vanilla, leather, oak and light touches of dark fruits. Light notes of blackstrap molasses.

I really think that mouthfeel is where these beers fall short. This one is a medium, almost full, bodied beer. It has a very light level of carbonation. Sure, it's smooth and easy to drink, just like water or juice. It's sadly lacking any real creaminess, which I think is a shame. Then again, I didn't make the beer, so who am I to complain. As far as that goes, I will buy their beers, whenever I can, because I do enjoy them.

I'm knocking of a bit for the lack of any real body. Other than that though, I could personally drink quite a few of these. Until that 10.00%abv knocks me down, that is. (1,489 characters)

Photo of TheKingsOfHop
3.27/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Batch 013 with a best before of 02/02/10;
Poured into tulip shaped glasses:

A: Black body with a tan foam edge around the top.

S: Strong vanilla with a whiskey and butterscotch aroma. Undertones of dark fruit, molasses, and oak.

M: Light to medium body, warm chest from the ABV. No carbonation at all.

D: Expensive, and not at all what we expected. This seems to be the road Brew Dog has been taking lately. Very Unfortunate...

Cheers,
The Kings Of Hop (457 characters)

Photo of erz316
3.79/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

batch 013 with a best before of 02/02/10, served into la chouffe snifter.

A - christ almighty! have they even bothered to prime any of these goddamn beers?! the head is nothing more than the offspring of the increasingly hard pour i made. the colour is a light cream. the body is super pitch black. looks pretty much like the islay one I just had. I dont really know what to say, they all pretty much look the same disappointing way. these oak casks must be fucking magical because they suck out all the carbonation and body from these brews, except for the very first one I had.

S - this one, however, does smell a bit different. a little less smokiness, less peat, and a bit more malts. there is this a odd caramel-port/sweet wine note that is slightly fruity; maybe even a touch of cocoa powder. the only problem with all of this is that the brew doesn't smell very strongly, it is quite weak and one has to search for the aromas; but they smell pretty good, so i'll bump up the score.

T - the taste is the best so far of the recent ones had. the initial is a huge amount of malts, raisins, figs, some brown sugar, and whiskey spiciness and alcohol. I really enjoy this flavour but I cant find much that makes me think 'stout!'. the fig raisin thing it has going on is quite good; the sweetness from this sensation is most like a brown sugar, with a touch of raw molasses. the finish is much sweeter than would be expected: there is a distinct prune taste, quite very much pruny. the aftertaste is a bit astringent , but mostly malty and charred oaken whiskey. a nice finish for a questionable stout.

MF&D - that is not the texture of an imperial stout, yet again. this one might be the thickest yet of all the recent ones i've tried, but at best it is a medium. the carbonation is still lacking enough to really bring down the score. the drinkability is alright, but I want something big, carbonated, and thick (much like my penis, sans the carbonated aspect)!

I have to approximate what I thought the ratings are, because the goddamn site crashed when trying to submit a review. (2,088 characters)

Photo of BradLikesBrew
4.25/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Imperial Stout aged in 1966 Port Dundas cask which was first home to American Bourbon before being shipped across the Atlantic for Scottish Grain Whiskey.

Nearly black body. The aroma is packed with figs which will become a trend later on. Figs, toffee and vanilla dominate the aroma. It tastes like a damn Fig Newton. Rich stone fruit permeates the body. The cask shows itself in the form of light vanilla, oak, and peat notes.

Good balance here and much like the Glen Grant, this one goes down very easy. Smooth, lightly carbonated, this is a very dangerous beer. ABV hides nicely. This beer's style may say America, but the subtlety and drinkability says Scotland. (670 characters)

Photo of Bung
4.02/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz. Surprised by the only moderately dark brown pour, minimal whispy cream colored head. Aroma has some roast, but nice vanilla, caramel and light oak tones. A bit lighter bodied than I would like also, but coats the mouth ok. Taste has a nice blend of caramel, vanilla and barrel. Chocolate is there, some roast malt, zero coffee. Just hints of coffee and barrel booze in the finish. Real nice balanced double stout, but for the 12 bucks I paid, not sure it was worth it. Just not quite enough of everything stout, but the barrel was nicely done. Will say it was pretty easy drinking for a big beer. (605 characters)

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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 from BrewDog
88 out of 100 based on 65 ratings.