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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 - BrewDog

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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966

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BA SCORE
87
very good

103 Ratings
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Ratings: 103
Reviews: 65
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 10.49%
Wants: 4
Gots: 12 | FT: 0
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United Kingdom (Scotland)

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: brewdlyhooked13 on 11-10-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Port Dundas 1966 barrels
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Photo of ColForbinBC
4.02/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle, poured into a snifter
(consumed on 1/10/10, from notes)

Pours a dirty engine oil with very few brown bubbles that I can't even call a head.

Scotch heavy nose with oak, raisins, dark cherries, and a pleasant dose of vanilla.

A rich dark malt bill with a touch of smokiness, wood, and vanilla from the barrel. Cocoa powder, raisins and dark cherries round out the flavor profile with a sturdy dose of blackstrap molasses.

To say this is undercarbonated is a gross understatement. This guy is flat. So, with the best buy date of early Feb, I won't judge too hard. Otherwise, oily slick and medium bodied.

This is a big, bold beer with a ton of flavor. A sipper to be enjoyed over time. For me, carbonation issues aside, I found this to be enjoyable in doses. I needed to take my time to digest all that was going on.

Photo of JerseyDevil980
4.22/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is the 2nd beer I have had in the Paradox Series and I must say I enjoy the beers from BrewDog and want to try more. It pours as dark as can be and has no noticeable head. Its got a ncie aroma probably as a result of the aging in the Port Dundas Whiskey cask, its smooth and not an over pouring scent. It has a slightly sweet taste that is highly enjoable and it finishes very smooth. This was part of Batch 13

Photo of brc
4.09/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Best by last week. I'll risk it.

There was a bit of a hiss when popped, but this is basically uncarbonated. A few soapy bubbles when poured into my flute, emphasis on few. Pitch black liquid.

Smells kinda boozy - more like spiced rum than whisky to me. It does have a rich earthy or woody smell underneath.

Very sweet; tastes alot like toffee pudding with raisins. (In a good way). Toasty and chocolaty upfront, with the raisins kicking in later. Hint of blackberries, maybe. Bitterness is very low, coming from roasted malt. No noticeable hop character at this age.

Mouthfeel is a bit thin for an imperial stout, or very thin compared to some. Feels coating rather than thick.

Very smooth and drinkable. The flavor is really enticing, opening up as it warms. No alcohol flavor or feel. Strange head behavior aside, this is a very good beer.

Photo of mikesgroove
4.1/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Looked on the back of the bottle and this is clearly marked Batch 13.
 
I received this one a little while back and decided to grab it out of the fridge last night and give it a try. I wasn't overly thrilled with the first one I tried but this one suited me much better. Served cold and poured into a snifter, this one was consumed on 02/03/2010.
 
Pitch dark, black as night it comes out of the bottle and hits the glass. Not much at all in the way of carbonation, in fact it leaves a bare top with no lacing here what so ever. Really nice looking color and I have come to expect this look with the style. Aroma is loaded with woody notes. Hints of tobacco and leather start to come through immediately. Rich, smoky, and not as sweet as I would have thought. Old aged leather would be the best descriptor of the aroma. Smooth, even keeled feel here. Not highly carbonated at all, but not thin either, it seems to work for me. Rich enough to keep me interested for sure. Flavor is smoked malts, leather and tobacco again, with a hint of dark wood like notes. Light touch of vanilla, but very light and the finish is dry with an almost licorice like bite at the end.
 
Overall this was pretty darn good I have to admit. Could not taste the ten percent here at all, and the barrel really seems to shine here, showing that it can enhance the natural flavors and not go overboard. A fine, fine example of the style.

Photo of merlin48
4.12/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Numbered 11.2 ounce bottle. Pours into a snifter an opaque deep dark brown body with no head. Some spotty lacing.

Aroma has toffee, dark chocolate, dried figs, and some Scotch whisky booziness.

Mouthfeel is about medium bodied, seeming even thinner. Low carbonation enhancrd the smooth character.

Taste is the highlight of this interesting brew. Notes of old leather, dark chocolate, toffee, figs, vanilla, peat, charcoal,oak, and Scotch whiskey play off each other well. Alcohol is hidden very well, to my surprise. There is a vague fruitiness in addition to the figs and raisins that is hard to place.

Surprisingly easy to drink, but I think a tad more carbonation would have enhanced the experience.

Photo of olympuszymurgus
4.84/5  rDev +23.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

part 2 in a series

Is this even legal? Are we allowed to have this much fun? isn't the economy failing and atmosphere warming and everything just falling into a pile of rubble?

Poured into a pint glass, along with three other paradoxen. The smell is scotch. I actually feel inadequate in tasting it, because my knowledge of scotch is so limited. The taste, well, its everything from licorice and caramel to peat and smoke, dead british soldiers and virgin redheads.

Best served with bloody meat, good friends, and sillyness. The perfect beer for these uncertain times.

Photo of Patrick999
4.24/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Batch 013, best by 2/2010.

Poured into a DFH snifter with very minimal head. Nearly flat dark brown. I know from experiences with the other Paradox bottles that this does *not* mean it's a bad beer. It just isn't amazing eye candy, that's all.

Aroma of Raisinets, rum, butter cookies, and a little Scotch. Doesn't seem to be as much of a smoke bomb as the Islay or Smokehead.

Well, this tastes simply excellent. I have no complaints about this at all. Raisinets in the flavor as well, though unsweetened. Scotch, yes, but not heavily smoked. Smooth, barely a hint of alcohol heat.

Feel is flat and a little thin, but I think I've said this before, the flat feel works with these beers and contributes to their drinkability. Very nice.

Photo of tpd975
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to Bosse for sending this one across the pond.

A: Pours a nice dark brownish black with a few bubbles that never really manage to make a head. No retention or lace.

S: Subtle aromas for a barrel aged beer. Hints of sweet molasses, vanilla, oak, and a touch of booze.

T: Nice caramel sweetness up front. Subtle chocolate malt and hints of peat. Fresh oak and subtle vanilla. A hint of bourbon beneath.

M: Not thin overall, but very thin for the style. Fairly still could use a touch of carbonation.

D: Fairly good. Despite being thin and subtle in flavor and aroma it does seem to meld together nicely. Overall it is a tasty beer that is more drinkable than the other Paradox beers I have had.

Photo of coldmeat23
4.49/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

GLASS: Snifter
TEMP: Cellared @ approx 50 degrees
BATCH: 013 BEST BY: 02/02/10

This pours a super dark brown color. There isn't much of a head at all, just a small island of bubbles, in the middle of the surface. Lacing is in small spots and tiny strands and fairly sticky.

The bourbon notes and the maltiness really achieve a very good level of balance, in this one. Malt notes are both sweet and roasty. Nice presence of oak, vanilla, honey and a hint of floral. Mild hints of caramel and cocoa powder and peat smokiness.
This is the best, most balanced, nose that I've yet to find from any of the Brewdog Paradox series.

The taste is almost as good as the smell. A nice, rich, maltiness is balanced by the dry, light smokiness, that is imparted by the barrel aging. Hints of cocoa, tobacco, vanilla, leather, oak and light touches of dark fruits. Light notes of blackstrap molasses.

I really think that mouthfeel is where these beers fall short. This one is a medium, almost full, bodied beer. It has a very light level of carbonation. Sure, it's smooth and easy to drink, just like water or juice. It's sadly lacking any real creaminess, which I think is a shame. Then again, I didn't make the beer, so who am I to complain. As far as that goes, I will buy their beers, whenever I can, because I do enjoy them.

I'm knocking of a bit for the lack of any real body. Other than that though, I could personally drink quite a few of these. Until that 10.00%abv knocks me down, that is.

Photo of TheKingsOfHop
3.27/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Batch 013 with a best before of 02/02/10;
Poured into tulip shaped glasses:

A: Black body with a tan foam edge around the top.

S: Strong vanilla with a whiskey and butterscotch aroma. Undertones of dark fruit, molasses, and oak.

M: Light to medium body, warm chest from the ABV. No carbonation at all.

D: Expensive, and not at all what we expected. This seems to be the road Brew Dog has been taking lately. Very Unfortunate...

Cheers,
The Kings Of Hop

Photo of erz316
3.79/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

batch 013 with a best before of 02/02/10, served into la chouffe snifter.

A - christ almighty! have they even bothered to prime any of these goddamn beers?! the head is nothing more than the offspring of the increasingly hard pour i made. the colour is a light cream. the body is super pitch black. looks pretty much like the islay one I just had. I dont really know what to say, they all pretty much look the same disappointing way. these oak casks must be fucking magical because they suck out all the carbonation and body from these brews, except for the very first one I had.

S - this one, however, does smell a bit different. a little less smokiness, less peat, and a bit more malts. there is this a odd caramel-port/sweet wine note that is slightly fruity; maybe even a touch of cocoa powder. the only problem with all of this is that the brew doesn't smell very strongly, it is quite weak and one has to search for the aromas; but they smell pretty good, so i'll bump up the score.

T - the taste is the best so far of the recent ones had. the initial is a huge amount of malts, raisins, figs, some brown sugar, and whiskey spiciness and alcohol. I really enjoy this flavour but I cant find much that makes me think 'stout!'. the fig raisin thing it has going on is quite good; the sweetness from this sensation is most like a brown sugar, with a touch of raw molasses. the finish is much sweeter than would be expected: there is a distinct prune taste, quite very much pruny. the aftertaste is a bit astringent , but mostly malty and charred oaken whiskey. a nice finish for a questionable stout.

MF&D - that is not the texture of an imperial stout, yet again. this one might be the thickest yet of all the recent ones i've tried, but at best it is a medium. the carbonation is still lacking enough to really bring down the score. the drinkability is alright, but I want something big, carbonated, and thick (much like my penis, sans the carbonated aspect)!

I have to approximate what I thought the ratings are, because the goddamn site crashed when trying to submit a review.

Photo of BradLikesBrew
4.25/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Imperial Stout aged in 1966 Port Dundas cask which was first home to American Bourbon before being shipped across the Atlantic for Scottish Grain Whiskey.

Nearly black body. The aroma is packed with figs which will become a trend later on. Figs, toffee and vanilla dominate the aroma. It tastes like a damn Fig Newton. Rich stone fruit permeates the body. The cask shows itself in the form of light vanilla, oak, and peat notes.

Good balance here and much like the Glen Grant, this one goes down very easy. Smooth, lightly carbonated, this is a very dangerous beer. ABV hides nicely. This beer's style may say America, but the subtlety and drinkability says Scotland.

Photo of Bung
4.02/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz. Surprised by the only moderately dark brown pour, minimal whispy cream colored head. Aroma has some roast, but nice vanilla, caramel and light oak tones. A bit lighter bodied than I would like also, but coats the mouth ok. Taste has a nice blend of caramel, vanilla and barrel. Chocolate is there, some roast malt, zero coffee. Just hints of coffee and barrel booze in the finish. Real nice balanced double stout, but for the 12 bucks I paid, not sure it was worth it. Just not quite enough of everything stout, but the barrel was nicely done. Will say it was pretty easy drinking for a big beer.

Photo of bluejacket74
4.04/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle, best before 2/2/2010. Served in a snifter, the beer pours black with pretty much no head at all. Not much lacing, either. Nice aroma, it smells like dark fruit, smoke, vanilla, oak and scotch whisky. Taste is similar to the aroma, but there's also some peppery spice and bittersweet chocolate noticable too. I like the taste, but it seems a bit mild compared to the aroma. I was expecting this to have a little more of a kick to it. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's very thin for a stout. It is smooth and has low carbonation, which makes this brew easy to drink. It's a good beer, but because of the price I wouldn't drink this very often. But it is definitely worth trying if you're into barrel aged beers.

Photo of GratefulBeerGuy
4.22/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle for $11.99 ea.

Of course this puppy is opaque! a thin and rather fizzy tan colored head dissipates fast and appears pretty relaxed which great since it's been layed down on cask fora while.

The nose has aged leather, musty dates, spicey raisins, herbal whiskey and a heat tingle. Dark and dank berries with roastie and sweet malt aroma's. Smells very much like the 30-year old Courage IRS i had last year...without the oxodized effects. Bold aroma's of old leather and berry sweetness makes this one unique indeed.

Very roastie malts hits first with herbs and camp-fire effects. Oats and wheat in the malt which has a bunch of unique complexity is balanced by a very subtle hoppy bitterness that settles into dry leaf with thyme and white pepper. Vanilla just bursts out of the malt, which is gained from the cask aging, and just a slight bit of not-so-sweet chocolate. This one might have just too much vanilla and aged furniture for my taste, but it's unique. A mellow whiskey-like heat without any of the actual burn sensation. A mellow, aged medium to full feel that is very relaxed, but not slick.

this one was very much like the classic courage IRS, only with more vanilla from the cask.

Photo of BEERchitect
4.04/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

There's a lot of hype surrounding the Brewdog beers and distribution. This is my first from the brewery. Let's see what all the fuss is about.

An uninspiring pour brings an average viscocity, light head formation and retention over the alcoholic beverage. No real lacing and the carbontion doesn't make much impact but the beer shows nice legging throughout.

Very nice blend of strong Stout-like properties with a lot of fruitiness, rum and port sweetened alcohols with a touch of campfire smokiness, woods, a light vineous note, and a touch of chocolate and brandy.

Nice and mellow flavors of coffee, bittersweet cocoa, and sweet brandies, ports, and whiskies. Fruity with berries, licorice, raisons, figs, dates, plumbs, raisons- the beer runs the whole plethera of dried and fresh fruits; think grandma's fruitcake. Still, the woods bring on a nutty, vanilla, caramel tone that rounds out the rough edges of the alcohols and astringent roasted grains. Mellow, maybe to a flaw.

Lack of carbonation begins to take its toll on the textrue. Slight on creaminess allows the tannins to rise a bit too much. The beer sits heavy on the tongue without the lift of the bubbles. Finishes with a lingering sweetness from the malts and heavier alcohols, at times taking on a cola-like taste in the finish.

I liked the beer, but the beer doesn't stand up to expectations- partly because of the discussion, partly because of the price tag. A bit more carbonation would really do this beer favors. Should age well but already has a well-ages sherry character.

Photo of david131
3.85/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- A deep, dark brown liquid that has a surprising amount of transparency. The head rises and falls as quickly as Coca Cola. Pretty limp looking.

S- Very mild smelling. I get some whisky, dark fruits, and a bit of smoke.

T- Sweet, dark fruits with a mild whisky flavor. There is some oak, vanilla, and smoke coming through, but overall, this is pretty mild. Sweet and enjoyable.

M- Silky smooth, but maybe a tad thin. The carbonation is barely noticeable. A fairly clean aftertaste, but the roastiness sticks around for a bit.

D- For the ABV and the style, this is a pretty mild beer that drinks fairly easily. This is enjoyable, but KBS blows this out of the water and I would never pay $12 for this again.

Photo of Wasatch
4.35/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle
Batch 013
Best Before: 02/02/10

Poured into a chalice a very nice deep black color, nice carbonation, tiny fizzy tan head, which leaves some oil slicks behind. The nose is big and malty, lots of chocolate/toffee/caramel. The taste is slightly sweet, malty, with tons of dark stuff. Full body, the ABV is hidden very well for a brew this high, a very nice sipper. Very drinkable, my first from this brewery.

Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.95/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle. Went in with a friend on this bottle. Just couldn't justify $12.99 for a 12oz bottle.

Pours a dark brown, nearly black in color. No head forms on the pour. Smell is some rich port, and some dark roasted malts. Even more of the rich port like qualities come through in the taste. Very balanced and well done.
This is just a bit thin to be qualified as an Imperial Stout. Not close to some of the more viscous, fuller bodied Imperial Stouts out there.
Decent beer, but definitely not worth the price of the bottle. I could get two 12oz bottles of Bourbon County and still have some money left over.

Photo of eugeneplatinum
4.78/5  rDev +22.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Scored a bottle at Party Town in Florence, Kentucky, $11.99 for a twelve ounce bottle. For as dark as this beer is, it is tranparent in the light. There is some pepper and the smell of the sea on the nose. The taste is phenominal with milk chocolate, vanilla, sea salt, and vague smoke. The mouthfeel is viscous and pleasing. As drinkable as a 10%'er gets.

Photo of Brad007
4.01/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a pitch-black color with no head at all into my glass. Hmm, perhaps that is attributed to how I poured it.

Aroma is thick and viscous with dark fruit and roasted coffee in the nose. A bit of alcohol shows in the nose. Reminds me of the homebrewed imperial stout I made (but in a good way!).

Taste is boozy upfront with dark fruit, roasted coffee and a bit of chocolate in the middle. A bit creamy as well upfront. Not as viscous as the aroma. Not overpowering either. A bit of oaky flavor is present as well but not much.

Mouthfeel is full of lingering dark fruit, roasted coffee and chocolate. A bit of creaminess lingers as well. Alcohol is still present but not as much as it was in the aroma.

Not bad. An interesting take on the style. It has a good mouthfeel and goes down well. There's enough mix of flavors associated with this style. Worth it to age this though as to reduce the presence of the alcohol.

Photo of jdhilt
4.04/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a one finger tan head that fades quickly, leaving traces of lace. Opaque dark brown color. Light carbonation and medium-heavy bodied. Oak and alcohol nose. Flavor is sweet, roasted molasses, hints of oak and alcohol. Priced over the top at $14.95 for a 330ml bottle from Colonial Spirits Acton, Ma.

Photo of SFLpunk
3.62/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz brown glass pry-top.

Appearance: Deep chocolate brown/black, virtually no head with tan bubbles.

Nose: Toasted grain, banana liqueur, "white cherry," some aged vanilla bean, banana leaves, peach and light chocolate.

Palate: Medium bodied and slightly boozy. The alcohol lifts out of the beer. Lots of old vanilla, medium toast, some smoked malt, medium caramel, bitter chocolate. Moderately long finish which switches between bitter stout and lifted old whisky flavors.

Notes: Alcohol cleans up the finish and leaves the mouth with a lighter-bodied impression. Not bad, prefer the Isle of Arran batch.

Photo of IBUnit63
3.72/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Room temperature into Duvel tulip. Batch 13 with BBD 2/2/2010.

Head of dried ginger comes and goes quickly, leaving wisps up top. Body is slightly turbid yet dark brown - root beer/espresso brown.

Nose is very subtle for malt texture - port and whiskey, along with vanilla oak, dominate here. Oh yeah...the booze is there, too. Big time. Brings out milk chocolate notes. Hops? Noble at most - very mild...grass? Pine? Too mellow to make an impression.

Port shows up here but it's slightly watered down against the oak/vanilla backdrop. Now the roasted chocolate malt comes out more clearly and counters the booze. Even some hop grass shows up.

Palate isn't bad - tight with coffee, booze and a little hoppy grass. A little clammy up front. Not a lot of Beautiful Chemistry here. Pretty disjointed, and finish is sort of tepid.

2 Brewdog offerings sampled so far, with 2 disappointments. This one is OK but there are much better. There's really no synergy to speak of, and that's the real issue. Good individual components and they just don't connect. None have real power to me, either, so I can't imagine age helping too terribly much.

Photo of barleywinebrewer
4.52/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

A - nice black brew with a wisp of red at the edges. Soft off white head that quickly dissipates.
S - vanilla, oak, abv warmth
T - vanilla, whiskey, oak, sweet dark malts swirl in a velvety sinful mix.
M - medium full bodied, nicely carbonated with a silkey smooth texture.
D - wow, this is great. I could sip and savor this again and again.

BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 from BrewDog
87 out of 100 based on 103 ratings.