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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 - BrewDog

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BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966

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BA SCORE
88
very good

101 Ratings
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Ratings: 101
Reviews: 63
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 10.46%
Wants: 4
Gots: 11 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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United Kingdom (Scotland)

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Port Dundas 1966 barrels

(Beer added by: brewdlyhooked13 on 11-10-2008)
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Photo of camil1mj
3.7/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I have drank a lot of good beer, but this is my first review.

Bottle says best before 2/2/2010. Poured into my Bell's tulip glass at cellar temperature.
A: Dark as night. No light shines through
S: Chocolate with a slight hint of alcohol.
T: This is a lot less intense than I would have guessed from the description. I would use the term weak. Chocolate and whiskey are the two tastes I can really pick up on.
M: The feel is disappointing. it is very thin for my expectations of a barrel-aged stout.
O: This is an average barrel-aged stout. I have had better and worse. The smell is the best thing going for it.

camil1mj, May 30, 2011
Photo of sisuspeed
3.7/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter. A thin, off-white, film rests on top of a fairly dark body. Light lacing.

The nose is filled with sweet malts, chocolate, cherries, honey and a touch of sea salt. Nice floral honey notes. Plums and figs. Nice depth. Hint of alcohol.

Vanilla, dark roasted malts, light honey and a touch of dark fruit. Some saltiness and oaky wood. There are some nice notes going on here, but Brewdog has done better than this. Still a tasty brew though.

Mouthfeel is smooth, but unfortunately flat. Some lingering bitterness from the malt and wood. I think the lack of bubbles is hurting this beer the most.

Drinkability is pretty good. This is the third beer in the Paradox series that I've had and it seems that Brewdog knows how to use there barrels. However, the Isle of Arran is still my favorite. Looking forward to trying some of the others.

sisuspeed, Oct 07, 2010
Photo of IBUnit63
3.73/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Room temperature into Duvel tulip. Batch 13 with BBD 2/2/2010.

Head of dried ginger comes and goes quickly, leaving wisps up top. Body is slightly turbid yet dark brown - root beer/espresso brown.

Nose is very subtle for malt texture - port and whiskey, along with vanilla oak, dominate here. Oh yeah...the booze is there, too. Big time. Brings out milk chocolate notes. Hops? Noble at most - very mild...grass? Pine? Too mellow to make an impression.

Port shows up here but it's slightly watered down against the oak/vanilla backdrop. Now the roasted chocolate malt comes out more clearly and counters the booze. Even some hop grass shows up.

Palate isn't bad - tight with coffee, booze and a little hoppy grass. A little clammy up front. Not a lot of Beautiful Chemistry here. Pretty disjointed, and finish is sort of tepid.

2 Brewdog offerings sampled so far, with 2 disappointments. This one is OK but there are much better. There's really no synergy to speak of, and that's the real issue. Good individual components and they just don't connect. None have real power to me, either, so I can't imagine age helping too terribly much.

IBUnit63, Feb 12, 2009
Photo of Smurf2055
3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

Smurf2055, Jul 19, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

Thomas_Picton, Feb 07, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

bbadger, Dec 26, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

neckbracesub, Sep 28, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

mrn1ceguy, Nov 10, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

hopley, Feb 14, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

SteveTheBrit, Aug 13, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

Zimm, May 04, 2014
Photo of Naugros
3.78/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Poured flat, with just a few bubbles. I can count them if you want. I had to check other reviews to see if maybe what I received was a bad bottle, but this seems to be a common complaint. Not a good start. It's really dark brown and inky, but so are all stouts.

Smells like whiskey with a wee bit of chocolate...sorry, Brew Dog is in Scotland so it should be spelled without an "E". Also, Port Dundas is a Scotch whisky. LOL, spellcheck is saying that I spelled "whisky" wrong. The programmer must have been Irish.

Anyway, back to this beer. It's time to taste it, but I'm afraid to. Courage Beer Samurai, courage. Ooh, it tastes a lot better than it smells. Chocolate and coffee bring in a sweetness that I hadn't expected. The whisky flavor is still there, but mitigated and it seems that the barrel conditioning did more than pick up a whisky flavor, it brought some oak as well. There's a bitterness in the aftertaste, but I can't tell if it's from a hops presence or due to the roasted grains. With no citrus, floral or grassy flavors to be found I'll go with the latter. Do yourself a favor and drink this at room temperature. The whisky is even further mitigated (even if still thought spelled incorrectly) and the bitterness is taken down a notch, letting the sweetness shine through. Much nicer.

It's 10% ABV and it smells and tastes of whisky. So it's going to sound really strange when I say that the alcohol is hidden pretty well. There's no vinous sensation and no heat. Do not confuse whisky flavor with alcohol heat. The beer is satiny in texture and goes down smoothly. Oh yeah, and it's flat.

Not an everyday beer, but more of a "I want to try something a little different" beer. It's nice, I like it, but for my money I'd rather have a Weyerbacher Heresy.

Naugros, Jul 25, 2010
Photo of erz316
3.8/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

batch 013 with a best before of 02/02/10, served into la chouffe snifter.

A - christ almighty! have they even bothered to prime any of these goddamn beers?! the head is nothing more than the offspring of the increasingly hard pour i made. the colour is a light cream. the body is super pitch black. looks pretty much like the islay one I just had. I dont really know what to say, they all pretty much look the same disappointing way. these oak casks must be fucking magical because they suck out all the carbonation and body from these brews, except for the very first one I had.

S - this one, however, does smell a bit different. a little less smokiness, less peat, and a bit more malts. there is this a odd caramel-port/sweet wine note that is slightly fruity; maybe even a touch of cocoa powder. the only problem with all of this is that the brew doesn't smell very strongly, it is quite weak and one has to search for the aromas; but they smell pretty good, so i'll bump up the score.

T - the taste is the best so far of the recent ones had. the initial is a huge amount of malts, raisins, figs, some brown sugar, and whiskey spiciness and alcohol. I really enjoy this flavour but I cant find much that makes me think 'stout!'. the fig raisin thing it has going on is quite good; the sweetness from this sensation is most like a brown sugar, with a touch of raw molasses. the finish is much sweeter than would be expected: there is a distinct prune taste, quite very much pruny. the aftertaste is a bit astringent , but mostly malty and charred oaken whiskey. a nice finish for a questionable stout.

MF&D - that is not the texture of an imperial stout, yet again. this one might be the thickest yet of all the recent ones i've tried, but at best it is a medium. the carbonation is still lacking enough to really bring down the score. the drinkability is alright, but I want something big, carbonated, and thick (much like my penis, sans the carbonated aspect)!

I have to approximate what I thought the ratings are, because the goddamn site crashed when trying to submit a review.

erz316, Sep 18, 2009
Photo of kzoobrew
3.83/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours beep brown almost black. Nearly opaque, light only penetrates the edges leaving faint ruby high lights.. Even when poured vigorously there is no head.

Very nice whisky aroma. Big time vanilla aroma. There may be some chocolate scents in there but I am losing much of it behind the vanilla and whisky aromas.

Flavor is heavy on the scotch up front. roasted malt and some chocolate flavors coming up behind. Slight touch of vanilla though far less than what is picked up by the nose. The woodiness of the oak and the whisky flavors stick with you long after your last sip.

Mouth feel is rather smooth and creamy. Body is not overly big, but rather comes off slightly watered down. Finishes rather dry.

While this was rather enjoyable it does not live up to expectations. I am glad I have tried this one but will pass on it next time. The concept in better than the brew.

kzoobrew, Nov 18, 2008
Photo of megahurts4
3.85/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewdog Paradox Port Dundas

Appearance: dark brown, no head, and no lacing.

Smell: caramel and toffee.

Taste: caramel, toffee, and a slight cocoa.

Mouthfeel: medium-light and smooth.

Overall:
This is much lighter than anticipated. The flavors are subtle and rich.

megahurts4, May 27, 2011
Photo of azdback
3.85/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Sam Adams Lager glass. Light black color with dark caramel highlights. No carbonation bubbles or head at all. Kinda looks like Coca Cola. There is some stickiness hanging onto the glass from the alcohol, but no lace.

Smells like any well barrel aged stout should. Big notes of vanilla, and whiskey. There is some coffee, and cocoa. Some subtle smokiness. It really smells fantastic.

Tastes like a very thin version of Victory at Sea, which isn't a bad thing. The coffee really comes out in the taste. Followed by vanilla, and alcohol.

Mouthfeel is pretty flat and watery. This is where I am most disappointed. But the bottle does say "best before 2/2/10" So maybe I am just getting to it late, but not surprised I was disappointed.

Overall, I am happy to have tried this. Thanks to matttYCE for this great extra. This is by far the best stout I have had from across the pond by a long shot. A must try if you can get your hands on this.

azdback, Jul 03, 2011
Photo of dirtylou
3.88/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle - Star. best by 2/2/10, hmm

appearance: poured into oversized snifter - flat pour with almost no head and a very small number of beige bubbles, mahogany body

smell: aroma leans towards scotch and butterscotch, dry malts, not overly complex

taste: smooth and well refined - creamy caramel, butterscotch, milk chocolate, scotch. It barely feels like an imperial stout - the scotch aging is less pronounced then i wasnt overly moved by the base stout

mouthfeel: nice smooth body, creamy, but relatively flat

drinkability: fine

dirtylou, Jun 06, 2010
Photo of david131
3.88/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- A deep, dark brown liquid that has a surprising amount of transparency. The head rises and falls as quickly as Coca Cola. Pretty limp looking.

S- Very mild smelling. I get some whisky, dark fruits, and a bit of smoke.

T- Sweet, dark fruits with a mild whisky flavor. There is some oak, vanilla, and smoke coming through, but overall, this is pretty mild. Sweet and enjoyable.

M- Silky smooth, but maybe a tad thin. The carbonation is barely noticeable. A fairly clean aftertaste, but the roastiness sticks around for a bit.

D- For the ABV and the style, this is a pretty mild beer that drinks fairly easily. This is enjoyable, but KBS blows this out of the water and I would never pay $12 for this again.

david131, Jun 19, 2009
Photo of brdc
3.88/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Small capped bottle, poured into a snifter.
Bottle states best by 02/02/10, not sure when this was bottled.

Dark brown color, golden highlights, minimal short lasting dark tan head, no lacing. Quickly, the beer looks as flat as possible.
Aroma is pleasant but tame, whisky, vanilla, oak, faint roasted malts.
Thin on the palate, with minimal carbonation, which detracts from the overall taste and experience.
The taste itself is also tame, pleasant, but needs a bit more power; vanilla, whisky, some roasted malts.
This is a good beer, but somewhat disappointing particularly considering the absurdly high price ($12).

brdc, Mar 17, 2010
Photo of jpell33
3.93/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Good beer but my first from Brewdog, so probably had high expectation going into it.

Poured flat and had distinct flavors from the cask.

Very smooth and sweet taste. Whiskey from the barrel has a distinct impact on the flavor. Good start for me with Brewdog. Can't wait to try some of the other batches.

jpell33, Aug 03, 2010
Photo of tpd975
3.93/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to Bosse for sending this one across the pond.

A: Pours a nice dark brownish black with a few bubbles that never really manage to make a head. No retention or lace.

S: Subtle aromas for a barrel aged beer. Hints of sweet molasses, vanilla, oak, and a touch of booze.

T: Nice caramel sweetness up front. Subtle chocolate malt and hints of peat. Fresh oak and subtle vanilla. A hint of bourbon beneath.

M: Not thin overall, but very thin for the style. Fairly still could use a touch of carbonation.

D: Fairly good. Despite being thin and subtle in flavor and aroma it does seem to meld together nicely. Overall it is a tasty beer that is more drinkable than the other Paradox beers I have had.

tpd975, Nov 14, 2009
Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.95/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle. Went in with a friend on this bottle. Just couldn't justify $12.99 for a 12oz bottle.

Pours a dark brown, nearly black in color. No head forms on the pour. Smell is some rich port, and some dark roasted malts. Even more of the rich port like qualities come through in the taste. Very balanced and well done.
This is just a bit thin to be qualified as an Imperial Stout. Not close to some of the more viscous, fuller bodied Imperial Stouts out there.
Decent beer, but definitely not worth the price of the bottle. I could get two 12oz bottles of Bourbon County and still have some money left over.

FtownThrowDown, Jun 06, 2009
Photo of superspak
3.95/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle into snifter, best by 2/2/2010. Pours hazy very dark brown color with almost no head that recedes to a thin foam cap on the top. Hardly any hiss upon opening. Minimal lacing, small bubbles of carbonation on the glass. Aromas of big caramel, brown sugar, chocolate, roasted malt, vanilla, whiskey, raisin, oak, and light smoke. Damn nice aromas here with nice complexity and balance. Taste of big chocolate, caramel, vanilla, toffee, molasses, light whiskey, roasted malt, oak, toasted biscuit, clove, and light herbal spices. Light bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of chocolate, vanilla, toffee, roasted malt, and molasses on the finish for a good bit. Great balance of flavors with nice complexity; and no cloying sweetness. Light-medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a very creamy and slick mouthfeel. Drinks very smoothly for 10%, with only a slight alcohol warming after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice barrel aged imperial stout! Very well blended flavors with nice complexity. This has aged very nicely indeed.

superspak, Apr 11, 2012
Photo of LiquidAmber
3.98/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review from 9/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours pitch black with a hint of dark tan head and little carbonation, surprisingly the tiny foam around the glass forms a slight lacing. Very faint aroma of dark malts and whiskey. Nice mouth feel. Very light taste of dark malts, chocolate, molasses and faint whiskey. Mellow dark malt and whiskey finish. Well balanced and integrated, maybe a bit too much so, there is little to get excited about. A smooth, pleasant, but rather subdued barrel aged stout.

LiquidAmber, Aug 01, 2012
Photo of Resuin
3.99/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Poured from an 11.2 oz bottle into a goblet. Batch 13. This was bottled on 02/02/08 which is a little over 5 years ago as of this review.

Appearance: Pours a very dark brown (just a shade lighter than black) and leaves no head whatsoever.

Smell: Sweet vanilla, oak and whiskey lead the way along with dark chocolate and malts.

Taste: Follows the nose, but the flavors are a bit subdued. Vanilla, oak, chocolate, malts, plums and figs. All are very balanced and surprisingly light. Alcohol is very well hidden.

Mouth-feel: Nearly completely flat which I'm not a huge fan of. Medium bodied and this one goes down really smooth.

Overall: This was an interesting stout. The lack of carbonation didn't help it though - the flavors were all great and so well balanced, but the lack of carbonation was very noticeable. Definitely still an enjoyable stout and the age has really mellowed this one out.

Resuin, May 19, 2013
BrewDog Paradox Grain (Batch 013) - Port Dundas 1966 from BrewDog
88 out of 100 based on 101 ratings.