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Eerwaarde Pater - Brouwerij Het Alternatief

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36 Ratings
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Ratings: 36
Reviews: 29
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 10.88%
Wants: 2
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Bitterbill on 12-06-2008

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Ratings: 36 | Reviews: 29
Photo of brentk56
3.7/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a cloudy tea brown color and, despite the head foaming out of the bottle, it was not as impressive in the glass; left a smattering of lace behind, however

Smell: Caramel, tart cherry, oak and a strong vanilla undertone

Taste: The caramel and tart cherry flavors battle it out, up front, with the oak and vanilla adding complexity in the middle; the sour flavors build, after the swallow, though the brown sugar sweetness lingers underneath

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Overall: While there is a lot of complexity, the flavors never really coalesce - not sure exactly what the brewer was aiming for, here

Photo of corby112
3.3/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark amber/chestnut brown color with a thin off-white collar that quickly fades into a thin ring. Spotty lacing left behind.

Heavily spiced aroma with subtle malt sweetness and faint dark fruit notes. Peppery with cinnamon and candy sugar followed by caramel malt, subtle earthy hops and vinous fruit.

Lighter bodied than expected with soft carbonation and a decent balance of sweet malt, estery dark fruit notes, zesty spice and sweet booze. Slightly syrupy/medicinal with hints of grape, date and raisin followed by candy sugar, pepper and clove. As it warms, some sweet caramel malt and toffee flavor comes out but it's dominated by the dark fruit and heavy spices.

Photo of OneDropSoup
4.03/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dec. 2010 printed on the cap.

Poured into a stemmed tulip: Deep plummy brown with crimson highlights under two fingers of the softest cappuccino head that glistens nicely.

At first get some dark fruits, tart cherries, slight musty funk, a little potpourri-like spice & a mild woodiness. Not totally sure it's supposed to smell that way, but it's nice.

Tart & malty, not quite vinegar but more like orange peel, with a little cocoa-like sweetness that picks up very subtly toward the end. Wraps up pretty dry, with a notable booze...not "kick" really, more like a squeeze. Kind of a dried grass in the middle, too. The booze gets less formidable after a while, & more fruit & pastry creep in.

Medium-full-bodied, soft & bubbly at first but gains some dryness & activity with a few swishes. Bordering on chewy.

I'll iterate: not sure if the brewer intended this, or if the bottle is infected, or just old & mishandled, but there's some slightly funky stuff going on. Just enough to make it pleasant, & I think it contributes an interesting layer, but it makes me wonder. Still an enjoyable, complex beer with some mystery.

Photo of wisrarebeer
3.71/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Best by July 2011.

A: deep copper color with compact, dense and full head, tiny bubbles, clear
S: medium deep roasted, burnt malt nose with EtOH presence, some oxidation
T: nice beer, some hints of oak aging, good deep roasted/burnt malt with yeasty qualities, reminded me of an amped dubbel, slight amount of sourness in finish (barrel aging or infection?)
M: for the EtOH and body seemed a bit thin, some metallic bite in finish that might be yeast-attributed or aging, doesn't distract from flavor or mouthfeel, however
O: ok but some qualities just don't agree with me (taste and mouthfeel)

Photo of Daniellobo
3.85/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice Belgium brew, complex with stimulation sour notes and a good oak vat sense.

Presentation: 33 cl brown capped bottle. Simple light cream label dominated by the drawing of a church stained glass.
Brief liner describes the main characteristics of the brew. Cap shows a date (EPA Jul 2011, Lot: 300?) Shows 9% Alc. by Vol. Served in a tulip glass.

A - Murky amber-brown pour with a towering frothy head, nice retention, surface memory and lacing.

S - Sour and fruity nose, a bit funky and tart apple fresh. It flows with a rotund fruity sweetness, almost smoked.

T - That second round of the smell is the one that hits the palate best, and with some rotundness. Fruity, sweet, touches of sour oak, with a longer maltiness than the nose.

M - Medium to medium/full body, and middle carbonation after a more aggressive finish. Somewhat dry and tart lingering memory.

O - All in all this flows rather nicely, worth the grab.

Notes: One to keep in mind actually, the change of pace from nose to palate, with a longer maltiness, is interesting and works well, ultimately it recuperates most of the sour edge and makes for a worthy memory.

Photo of dragonWhale
3.55/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pulled the trigger on another from the Twelve Percent portfolio. I dig the label, even if I can barely read the name of the beer. Anyway a soft pop and the beer is opened, liquid filled almost all the way to the cap. Into the tulip it foams loudly with minute and raging suds. Dark brown and a bit murky. A bouquet of burnt sugar, tannic wood, lactic sour, and a bit of alcohol. From reading the previous review from 2 months ago, it seems that this little infection was called by someone. It's actually pretty nice, though definitely noticeable. The oak is very present and presents a little harshness, the sugars battle the sour. A touch of chocolate in here as well. Definitely glad to have tried this. Looking forward to a taste from the next run.

Photo of impending
4.11/5  rDev +9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

33cl into a tulip. Pours a dark dingy cola, towering dense head has no interest in receding, clumpy froth remains behind.

Rich complex aroma, vinous and oaky atop lots of spices found in an old world pastry shop. Unique

Complexity follows through in the taste. The vinous & oak notes are followed by a wholly unexpected twinge of funk which now tasted can be discerned in the nose. The barrel contributed more than just oak. The long fading aftertaste is of citrus just hinting at its future sour. Medium bodied creamy mouthfeel.

a unique strong dark
scrumptious
cheers
jd

Photo of avalon07
4.38/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured from a bottle to a goblet. Had a dark brown color and a murky, thick consistency. There was a big, creamy, off white, long-lasting head. Good lacing.

S: A nice aroma of dark fruit, yeast, malt and spices.

T: Tasted of Belgian yeast, malt, raisins, plums, and some spices. Very complex and very tasty all around.

M: A highly carbonated beer with a smooth, dry finish. Medium-bodied.

D: On the whole, this is a well made, extremely drinkable Belgian beer.

Photo of drpimento
4.35/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pretty good obscure brew. Poured with a huge foamy frothy, fine, light tan head that lasts and lots of lace. Color is a cloudy mahoganey. Aroma is lots of dark ripe fruits: raisins, figs, dates, prunes, malt, yeast, Flavors very similar. Body is good and so is carbonation. Finish is like flavor with a little more bitterness coming out. Good beer.

Photo of emerge077
3.65/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Huge thanks to Sebastian for sharing this one.

Into a Duvel tulip this beer glows a dark russet tone, red towards the bottom, dark brown closer to the khaki foam. Foam dissipates fast after a couple minutes. A frothy ring around the edge is all that's left.

Dates, figs, sweet potato, and multigrain bread in the nose. Not overly sweet, and there's a suggestion of oak aging there. Needs to warm to fully open up. Maple and oak emerge late after coming to room temperature.

Some fruitiness and astringency from the oak, softening in the aftertaste. Tart apple and grape esters from the yeast, bready malt underneath. Banana peel and hazelnut, grape jelly, oak woodiness. An interesting note from the oak, but it could be more integrated. Needs to be softer for sure, though it doesn't distract too much from the overall flavor, and it does compliment the flavor to an extent.

Alcohol is hidden, and it's not overly carbonated. The oak is both pleasant and a speed bump in the overall feel. Worth a try, though it could use more refinement.

Photo of carpezytha
4.3/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

*Note: This bottle fell to the ground and a good 3/4 of it fizzed out through the cap prior to pouring...therefore not a complete review.

A: Murky with super aggressive head.
S: Sour bark and wet wool.
T: Cedar, cinnamon, tanbark and yeasty malt.
M: Fully carbonated, spicy mouthfeel
D: Will do it again.

Photo of largadeer
2.59/5  rDev -31.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Clear auburn body, very foamy and over-carbonated, though the head quickly settles to a collar. Strange aroma, smoke and rubber, raisins, light fruity tartness. Not a lot of malt character. Palate is also odd; sour, dry and fruity up front, which leads into a finish of smoke, rubbery phenols, spicy oak, heavy tannins. Texture is a bit rough and thin, somewhat astringent. Oak, spice and sourness lingers on the tongue. Not terribly impressive stuff, the yeast and oak lend messy, unharmonious flavors.

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.43/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

(Served in a chalice)
A- This beer has a deep dense brown body with a garnet glow at the base. There is a thick foam of beige that takes up half the glass and a sea of carbonation swirling around.
S- The musty tartness is soft and the overall aroma is pretty clean.
T- The tart bite leans toward a vinous tannin note and there is a band-aid phenolic that grows as the beer warms. The finish has an aged oak flavor with a bright chemical cleaner quality. There is an acidic bite to the finish aswell.
M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a mild astringent bite and no alcohol heat noticed.
D- This beer is not watery but is thin. The tartness in nice and mild but there is nothing to support it. It has some nice qualities like a Flanders Red but no fruity flavors and too bitey.

Photo of bskrtz
3.18/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured 11.2 ounce bottle @ 42 degrees to St Bernardus challis

A) Light murky mahogany brown wart with frothy one beige inch head

S) Sweet caramel, root beer, spice and hops

T) Strong, poweful flavors. Sweet malt & bitter hops. Dates, burnt sugar, coffee, bitter chocolate

M) Alcohol quickly warms the throat. Very lively, dense effervescent carbonation

D) Stout like in flavor, bolder than traditional trappist dubbels.

Photo of metter98
3.68/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer poured hazy brown in color with a two finger high off white head that slowly died down but has very good retention properties. A light to moderate amount of carbonation is visible.
S: Aromas of oak really stand out in the nose, which is slightly sour also has some hints of dark fruits and spices.
T: The oak aging seems to contribute a mild amount of sourness. The flavors also have notes of dark fruits (mainly cherries) and herbs.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a bit thin on the palate; there is a light amount of carbonation.
D: It's relatively easy to drink this beer because the alcohol is very well hidden.

Photo of SFLpunk
3.3/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2 oz brown glass pry-top squatty bottle. Label notched Dec...yup, that's it. I HATE notched labels. Attention brewers: It NEVER works right. Ever. Luckily, the cap is dated Dec 2010.

Appearance: Pours a hazy mahogany brown with thin off-white suds.

Nose: Nose is fairly closed, but some simple chocolate and red cherry notes come through.

Palate: Some sourness comes right across, a little funk, and the predominant flavor is of milk chocolate covered cherry cordials. The body lacks a little in texture, but the flavor is there.

Notes: A decent brew, but I'm not sold on the quality. I prefer 't Gaverhopke Extra is better and very similar in flavor profile. Check it.

Photo of beerthulhu
4.16/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

- Labeled as a dark brown ale matured in oak. Cap lot 319. EPA Dec 2010. consumed 1/10.

A: Poured a dark caramel apple coloring with a thick turbid haze that barely allowed a sliver of light through, while micro bran colored yeasty matter lied sparingly on the bottom of the glass. A monstrous 5 finger plus sandstone colored head that was rigid and foamy sits atop with a seemingly everlasting appeal before eventually collapsing into a rocky and towering formation. The capping never falls below a 1 finger topping. A near full sheet coating clings to the glass walls with much resistance while the visible effervesce was explosive causing the micro yeast particles to dance up and down in the glass with much excitement.

S: A soft toasted nuttiness is first evident on the nose along with a good deal of breadiness, almost pancake like with a dried syrup sweetness. No signs yet of the oak maturation yet.

T: The flavor opens with a beautiful caramel nuttiness combined with a yeasty character of liquid bread and flashes of alcohol. Warm cola spicings along with an oaky character, vanilla bean and apple fruitiness also come into play. Moments of dark ripe fruit also come into play. The malting is really luscious being blended beautifully with a Belgian yeasty quality that delivers a solid performance.

M: The mouthful was luscious, nearly full with an incredible amount of carbonation. Swooshes around the tongue with much delight and with incredible ease and silkiness.

D: Drinkability was very nice, if not for the 9.0%abv, which is incredibly well hidden, this would be a fantastic session. Luscious malting with a great Belgian yeast quality gives this the best of both worlds. Drinks more like a Belgian brown then a strong dark ale.

Photo of popery
3.45/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Interesting beer but not quite my cup of tea. This beer pours a rather dark ruby/brown, transparent though it looks nearly black in the shadows. Big, creamy beige head. Fruity aroma - apricots, plums, berries, cherries. Some caramel and a touch of chocolate. A fair bit of oak sourness, as well. The flavor is surprisingly sour. It's not a real big pucker, compared to a true sour, but it's a surprising, almost difficult flavor to interact with the dark malt and belgian yeast notes. Otherwise, there's a lot of Belgian malt flavor and a relatively dry finish despite a fair bit of sweetness upfront. Unfortunately, the carbonation almost kills it for me. I think this beer suffers from serious over-carbonation. It's chock full of tiny prickly bubbles, all bursting forth as I try to swallow. I think that I would enjoy this beer a lot more with less aggressive carbonation.

Photo of WorldWideStout
4.1/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Light brown/red murky body. Creamy white head which holds steady at one finger for awhile and leaves good lacing.

S: As soon as the bottle was opened I could smell the fruits. Cherries and strawberries are what comes to mind. There are also a few spicy, yeasty notes.

T: Starts off with the fruitiness. Then there's some rich malts in the middle, though I only get them in the sides of my mouth and they're not very strong. A pleasant tart cherry taste is sometimes lurking in the beginning and middle, sometimes isn't, but always makes its presence known towards the end. The aftertaste is a bit of sourness, but goes away quickly.

M: Fairly light for 9%, which I think is good considering the often present tartness.

D: The mild sourness in this otherwise sweet and malty brew is refreshing, and the thinner body make for easy drinking.

Not as complex as I had hoped, but tasty, and one of the easiest brews at 8 or 9% abv to drink that I've ever had. The brewery calls this a bruin, which perhaps should have its own category if it doesn't already, as this is not too similar to most BSDAs I've had.

Photo of BeerImmediately
3.95/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle into chalice at 45 degrees.

Healthy, effervescent head fills half the glass, and sits atop a deep ruby/brown body. Fades to steady film with a touch of lacing.

Interesting aromas leading with tart plum, a rich spice, and on to some sweet caramel in the back.

Prickly and powdery mouthfeel, and the flavor has a much more pronounced tart & dark fruit quality than the aroma suggests. Little bit of apple cider and some musty yeast.

This has a surprisingly 'light' character overall for a 9% ABV, and would be a nice compliment to a tomato-centric meal (Italian), or a fruity dessert.

Photo of farrago
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Super whippedup head of dark tan color, dimples as it dissolves as a swift clip, thick streaks of lacing left behind, eventually settles into foam islands scattered across the surface. Hazily opaque yellow-brown colored liquid, easily visible sediment, might want to stand up the bottle and pour slowly. The first thing which impresses about the nose is the taut, wiry sourness, more inviting than offputting, sour lemons, cocktail bitters, whole cloves and nutmeg, the malts appear dry, like powdered cocoa, not fruity per se, as many raisin and prune scents as cherry or plum. Light-bodied, the sediment does add to a grittier texture, very dry throughout, the carbonation light and moderately active. Sour and yeasty, red cherry, yellow raisin and apricot pits. Brown sugar and carob add a pinch of sweetness. Ends with a swirl of pepper and herbaceousness. Unabashedly idiosyncratic, methinks it would show best with food. As well as closer to room temperature.

Photo of John_M
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Max's during Baltimore Beer Week.

The beer pours a solid brown color with OK head retention and minimal lacing. Don't get a lot on the nose, just some rootbeer and brown sugar. Flavors replicate the nose and I can't say I'm greatly impressed. The beer also has a slight sour component, which I don't think plays well with the other flavors. Furthermore, the beer is a bit watery on the finish, which I find surprising in a 9% abv. beer. The beer is otherwise fairly light on the palate, and while the alcohol is not very noticeable, there just isn't enough flavor to make this very enjoyable to drink. Can't say I'm greatly impressed by this.

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.03/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Eerwaarde Pater pours a hazy deep chestnut body beneath a massive head of bone white froth. The retention is amazing, and it leaves mountains of lace about the glass. Throughout the serving it maintained a thin cap across the surface.

The aroma is fruity and perfumey (sweet and floral) with a hint of cocoa and some caramel.

The flavor reveals more dark maltiness than the aroma suggests, and that's balanced by a sharp fruitiness (tart berries, juicy apple, cherry) with a bit of tartness. Some spice is present, but it's low-key. There's a cola note; and an herbal edge as well. It's solidly balanced by bitterness from beneath, and it finishes quite dry and tart; and short, only a hint of some very dull spice remains.

Despite a hint of alcohol here and there, it remains very drinkable because it's so interesting. It's reminiscent in some ways of an oud bruin, but it's also got a big bump of bitterness to it. Certainly worth trying.

Photo of spointon
4.2/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I poured this one from an 11.2 oz stubby brown bottle into my New Belgium globe style glass. The cap was stamped "EPA Dec 2010 LOT 319".

A= This ale poured (at fridge temp) a hazy amber-brown color with a 1.5" foamy white head. The head settled fairly quickly to a broken skim, but I did get a nice pattern of spotty lace down my glass.

S= Almost vacant while at fridge temp, but once it warmed properly this ale had a nice complex aroma profile. Definite brown malt underneath a fruity/sour cherry note. Some wood and leather in there too. Some spices present, but they were just faint enough to be of unknown origin. Fair amount of alcohol presence when swirled.

T= Very much like the smell, with the odd combination of brown ale maltiness and slightly sour Belgian funkiness playing nicely together. I think the barrel must have imparted a bit of "wildness" to the fermentation. Tart red cherries and a sweet treacle flavor wrapped each swallow almost from start to finish. Speaking of finishes, this one was fairly dry and a bit tart, with some warming alcohol present. Nice!

MF= Fairly thin in body with a constant and effervescent carbonation level. Not quite sharp on the tongue but not soft either.

D= Extremely drinkable in that the 9% abv is really not an issue here. Interesting and pretty complex ale overall. Recommended!

Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.85/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle. Pours a dark brown with a very small white head. Aroma of sweet fruits (especially apple), applesauce, cinnamon, light spices, molasses, and sweet malt. Flavor is sweet with coffee cake, candi sugar, dark fruits, molasses, and a slightly spicy finish. Full, heavy palate. This is a nice BSA--very interesting and tasty.

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Eerwaarde Pater from Brouwerij Het Alternatief
85 out of 100 based on 36 ratings.