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Eerwaarde Pater - Brouwerij Het Alternatief

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BA SCORE
85
very good

36 Ratings
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Ratings: 36
Reviews: 29
rAvg: 3.79
pDev: 10.29%
Wants: 2
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bitterbill on 12-06-2008)
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Photo of metter98
3.65/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer poured hazy brown in color with a two finger high off white head that slowly died down but has very good retention properties. A light to moderate amount of carbonation is visible.
S: Aromas of oak really stand out in the nose, which is slightly sour also has some hints of dark fruits and spices.
T: The oak aging seems to contribute a mild amount of sourness. The flavors also have notes of dark fruits (mainly cherries) and herbs.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a bit thin on the palate; there is a light amount of carbonation.
D: It's relatively easy to drink this beer because the alcohol is very well hidden.

metter98, Jul 18, 2010
Photo of brentk56
3.68/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a cloudy tea brown color and, despite the head foaming out of the bottle, it was not as impressive in the glass; left a smattering of lace behind, however

Smell: Caramel, tart cherry, oak and a strong vanilla undertone

Taste: The caramel and tart cherry flavors battle it out, up front, with the oak and vanilla adding complexity in the middle; the sour flavors build, after the swallow, though the brown sugar sweetness lingers underneath

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Overall: While there is a lot of complexity, the flavors never really coalesce - not sure exactly what the brewer was aiming for, here

brentk56, Jan 05, 2013
Photo of emerge077
3.63/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Huge thanks to Sebastian for sharing this one.

Into a Duvel tulip this beer glows a dark russet tone, red towards the bottom, dark brown closer to the khaki foam. Foam dissipates fast after a couple minutes. A frothy ring around the edge is all that's left.

Dates, figs, sweet potato, and multigrain bread in the nose. Not overly sweet, and there's a suggestion of oak aging there. Needs to warm to fully open up. Maple and oak emerge late after coming to room temperature.

Some fruitiness and astringency from the oak, softening in the aftertaste. Tart apple and grape esters from the yeast, bready malt underneath. Banana peel and hazelnut, grape jelly, oak woodiness. An interesting note from the oak, but it could be more integrated. Needs to be softer for sure, though it doesn't distract too much from the overall flavor, and it does compliment the flavor to an extent.

Alcohol is hidden, and it's not overly carbonated. The oak is both pleasant and a speed bump in the overall feel. Worth a try, though it could use more refinement.

emerge077, Oct 15, 2010
Photo of largadeer
2.58/5  rDev -31.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Clear auburn body, very foamy and over-carbonated, though the head quickly settles to a collar. Strange aroma, smoke and rubber, raisins, light fruity tartness. Not a lot of malt character. Palate is also odd; sour, dry and fruity up front, which leads into a finish of smoke, rubbery phenols, spicy oak, heavy tannins. Texture is a bit rough and thin, somewhat astringent. Oak, spice and sourness lingers on the tongue. Not terribly impressive stuff, the yeast and oak lend messy, unharmonious flavors.

largadeer, Aug 14, 2010
Photo of NeroFiddled
4.03/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Eerwaarde Pater pours a hazy deep chestnut body beneath a massive head of bone white froth. The retention is amazing, and it leaves mountains of lace about the glass. Throughout the serving it maintained a thin cap across the surface.

The aroma is fruity and perfumey (sweet and floral) with a hint of cocoa and some caramel.

The flavor reveals more dark maltiness than the aroma suggests, and that's balanced by a sharp fruitiness (tart berries, juicy apple, cherry) with a bit of tartness. Some spice is present, but it's low-key. There's a cola note; and an herbal edge as well. It's solidly balanced by bitterness from beneath, and it finishes quite dry and tart; and short, only a hint of some very dull spice remains.

Despite a hint of alcohol here and there, it remains very drinkable because it's so interesting. It's reminiscent in some ways of an oud bruin, but it's also got a big bump of bitterness to it. Certainly worth trying.

NeroFiddled, Jul 17, 2009
Photo of RblWthACoz
3.9/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a quite murky brown with a slightly thick creme head. Nose is mild. Kind of a subdued spice there. Flavor is hearty, but doesn't overpower at all. Defined sweet tone with a fruity character that is more grapefruit and tart fruits than anything. I think I get some grass on the backside? Feel is smooth on liquid with a standard carbonation. This is an easier drinking ale. Nice and hearty with enough going on to keep it pleasurable.

RblWthACoz, Dec 07, 2008
Photo of corby112
3.28/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark amber/chestnut brown color with a thin off-white collar that quickly fades into a thin ring. Spotty lacing left behind.

Heavily spiced aroma with subtle malt sweetness and faint dark fruit notes. Peppery with cinnamon and candy sugar followed by caramel malt, subtle earthy hops and vinous fruit.

Lighter bodied than expected with soft carbonation and a decent balance of sweet malt, estery dark fruit notes, zesty spice and sweet booze. Slightly syrupy/medicinal with hints of grape, date and raisin followed by candy sugar, pepper and clove. As it warms, some sweet caramel malt and toffee flavor comes out but it's dominated by the dark fruit and heavy spices.

corby112, Sep 16, 2012
Photo of tempest
4.13/5  rDev +9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a single at Abe's Cold Beer for $5. Poured a clear brown with little head and no retention. This is certainly a unique beer and is sort of a hybrid of an American brown ale and dark strong Belgian. I'm sure that wasn't the brewer's intention, but the malts come out very clean and crisp with roast caramel, not at all hidden by yeast-driven flavors like fruit and spice. The oak aging (at least according to the label) adds a mildly acid sour tang that's an not-so-natural, but interesting pairing with the robust dark malt flavor. The aroma is a smoother, inviting caramel and chocolate candy smell. And in the sour aftertaste there's a hint of farmhouse funk. This beer would likely be greatly improved with a year or two of cellaring to let the wild critters grow and develop, you know, if you're into that sort of thing. Overall, a different take on the style and very drinkable. Try this beer.

tempest, May 11, 2009
Photo of rhoadsrage
3.43/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

(Served in a chalice)
A- This beer has a deep dense brown body with a garnet glow at the base. There is a thick foam of beige that takes up half the glass and a sea of carbonation swirling around.
S- The musty tartness is soft and the overall aroma is pretty clean.
T- The tart bite leans toward a vinous tannin note and there is a band-aid phenolic that grows as the beer warms. The finish has an aged oak flavor with a bright chemical cleaner quality. There is an acidic bite to the finish aswell.
M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a mild astringent bite and no alcohol heat noticed.
D- This beer is not watery but is thin. The tartness in nice and mild but there is nothing to support it. It has some nice qualities like a Flanders Red but no fruity flavors and too bitey.

rhoadsrage, Jul 26, 2010
Photo of John_M
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Max's during Baltimore Beer Week.

The beer pours a solid brown color with OK head retention and minimal lacing. Don't get a lot on the nose, just some rootbeer and brown sugar. Flavors replicate the nose and I can't say I'm greatly impressed. The beer also has a slight sour component, which I don't think plays well with the other flavors. Furthermore, the beer is a bit watery on the finish, which I find surprising in a 9% abv. beer. The beer is otherwise fairly light on the palate, and while the alcohol is not very noticeable, there just isn't enough flavor to make this very enjoyable to drink. Can't say I'm greatly impressed by this.

John_M, Oct 17, 2009
Photo of DrBier
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

DrBier, Jul 24, 2014
Photo of beerthulhu
4.2/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

- Labeled as a dark brown ale matured in oak. Cap lot 319. EPA Dec 2010. consumed 1/10.

A: Poured a dark caramel apple coloring with a thick turbid haze that barely allowed a sliver of light through, while micro bran colored yeasty matter lied sparingly on the bottom of the glass. A monstrous 5 finger plus sandstone colored head that was rigid and foamy sits atop with a seemingly everlasting appeal before eventually collapsing into a rocky and towering formation. The capping never falls below a 1 finger topping. A near full sheet coating clings to the glass walls with much resistance while the visible effervesce was explosive causing the micro yeast particles to dance up and down in the glass with much excitement.

S: A soft toasted nuttiness is first evident on the nose along with a good deal of breadiness, almost pancake like with a dried syrup sweetness. No signs yet of the oak maturation yet.

T: The flavor opens with a beautiful caramel nuttiness combined with a yeasty character of liquid bread and flashes of alcohol. Warm cola spicings along with an oaky character, vanilla bean and apple fruitiness also come into play. Moments of dark ripe fruit also come into play. The malting is really luscious being blended beautifully with a Belgian yeasty quality that delivers a solid performance.

M: The mouthful was luscious, nearly full with an incredible amount of carbonation. Swooshes around the tongue with much delight and with incredible ease and silkiness.

D: Drinkability was very nice, if not for the 9.0%abv, which is incredibly well hidden, this would be a fantastic session. Luscious malting with a great Belgian yeast quality gives this the best of both worlds. Drinks more like a Belgian brown then a strong dark ale.

beerthulhu, Apr 25, 2010
Photo of Bitterbill
4.05/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I got this bottle in a trade with Nutbrown. Thanks Alan!

I read the reviews on Rate Beer and they said this was a gusher and it is. Glad I had my glass in the ready. Did not lose a drop.

It has a murky rusty colour with a huge head of foam and lots of lacing. I waited maybe 30 seconds before the foam died down...a welcome surprise.

The smell has strong notes of yeast and fruit tartness followed by some notes of pepper and roasted malts that border on sweet. Nice and complex.

The taste has roasted malt and a good sour fruit and herbal hop flavour up front with very light pepper, and some light sweet malt character hidden way in the background. Very unusual tasting but I favour it. Btw, the second pour was all calm and cool and collected and I didn't have to wait long for the foam before I could take another sip. This really has a nice head on it..a solid 1 inch is as small as it gets.

The mouthfeel is medium for the most part but at times comes across as thin, the carbonation is on the light side and it finishes with some tartness and biterness putting it firmly into the dry category.

Drinkability is good as the 9% abv is *very* well hidden. I could drink, I think, 2 at 1 sitting but not more. A nice one to revisit though.

As I said before, very unusual beer and I can't even begin to give a guess as to how it will be rated when more BAs get their hands on bottles. For me, it worked.

Bitterbill, Dec 06, 2008
Photo of avalon07
4.4/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured from a bottle to a goblet. Had a dark brown color and a murky, thick consistency. There was a big, creamy, off white, long-lasting head. Good lacing.

S: A nice aroma of dark fruit, yeast, malt and spices.

T: Tasted of Belgian yeast, malt, raisins, plums, and some spices. Very complex and very tasty all around.

M: A highly carbonated beer with a smooth, dry finish. Medium-bodied.

D: On the whole, this is a well made, extremely drinkable Belgian beer.

avalon07, Jan 24, 2011
Photo of popery
3.43/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Interesting beer but not quite my cup of tea. This beer pours a rather dark ruby/brown, transparent though it looks nearly black in the shadows. Big, creamy beige head. Fruity aroma - apricots, plums, berries, cherries. Some caramel and a touch of chocolate. A fair bit of oak sourness, as well. The flavor is surprisingly sour. It's not a real big pucker, compared to a true sour, but it's a surprising, almost difficult flavor to interact with the dark malt and belgian yeast notes. Otherwise, there's a lot of Belgian malt flavor and a relatively dry finish despite a fair bit of sweetness upfront. Unfortunately, the carbonation almost kills it for me. I think this beer suffers from serious over-carbonation. It's chock full of tiny prickly bubbles, all bursting forth as I try to swallow. I think that I would enjoy this beer a lot more with less aggressive carbonation.

popery, Apr 25, 2010
Photo of drpimento
4.35/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pretty good obscure brew. Poured with a huge foamy frothy, fine, light tan head that lasts and lots of lace. Color is a cloudy mahoganey. Aroma is lots of dark ripe fruits: raisins, figs, dates, prunes, malt, yeast, Flavors very similar. Body is good and so is carbonation. Finish is like flavor with a little more bitterness coming out. Good beer.

drpimento, Dec 29, 2010
Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.85/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle. Pours a dark brown with a very small white head. Aroma of sweet fruits (especially apple), applesauce, cinnamon, light spices, molasses, and sweet malt. Flavor is sweet with coffee cake, candi sugar, dark fruits, molasses, and a slightly spicy finish. Full, heavy palate. This is a nice BSA--very interesting and tasty.

LilBeerDoctor, Jun 09, 2009
Photo of hopdog
3.65/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle. Cap stamped Dec 2010.

Poured a deep and cloudy amber color (almost brown) with a smaller sized off white head. Lots of big suspended floaters. Aromas of roastiness, bananas chips, chocolate, caramel, toffee, and lighter spices. Tastes of chocolate, caramel, tart cherries, grape skins, dark fruits, and some sugary sweetness. Had a lighter tart finish which I liked.

hopdog, May 31, 2009
Photo of Daniellobo
3.88/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice Belgium brew, complex with stimulation sour notes and a good oak vat sense.

Presentation: 33 cl brown capped bottle. Simple light cream label dominated by the drawing of a church stained glass.
Brief liner describes the main characteristics of the brew. Cap shows a date (EPA Jul 2011, Lot: 300?) Shows 9% Alc. by Vol. Served in a tulip glass.

A - Murky amber-brown pour with a towering frothy head, nice retention, surface memory and lacing.

S - Sour and fruity nose, a bit funky and tart apple fresh. It flows with a rotund fruity sweetness, almost smoked.

T - That second round of the smell is the one that hits the palate best, and with some rotundness. Fruity, sweet, touches of sour oak, with a longer maltiness than the nose.

M - Medium to medium/full body, and middle carbonation after a more aggressive finish. Somewhat dry and tart lingering memory.

O - All in all this flows rather nicely, worth the grab.

Notes: One to keep in mind actually, the change of pace from nose to palate, with a longer maltiness, is interesting and works well, ultimately it recuperates most of the sour edge and makes for a worthy memory.

Daniellobo, Jun 11, 2011
Photo of RedneckBeerz
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

RedneckBeerz, Apr 10, 2013
Photo of zonker17
4/5  rDev +5.5%

zonker17, Jan 12, 2012
Photo of Amalak
4/5  rDev +5.5%

Amalak, Nov 21, 2011
Photo of spointon
4.22/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I poured this one from an 11.2 oz stubby brown bottle into my New Belgium globe style glass. The cap was stamped "EPA Dec 2010 LOT 319".

A= This ale poured (at fridge temp) a hazy amber-brown color with a 1.5" foamy white head. The head settled fairly quickly to a broken skim, but I did get a nice pattern of spotty lace down my glass.

S= Almost vacant while at fridge temp, but once it warmed properly this ale had a nice complex aroma profile. Definite brown malt underneath a fruity/sour cherry note. Some wood and leather in there too. Some spices present, but they were just faint enough to be of unknown origin. Fair amount of alcohol presence when swirled.

T= Very much like the smell, with the odd combination of brown ale maltiness and slightly sour Belgian funkiness playing nicely together. I think the barrel must have imparted a bit of "wildness" to the fermentation. Tart red cherries and a sweet treacle flavor wrapped each swallow almost from start to finish. Speaking of finishes, this one was fairly dry and a bit tart, with some warming alcohol present. Nice!

MF= Fairly thin in body with a constant and effervescent carbonation level. Not quite sharp on the tongue but not soft either.

D= Extremely drinkable in that the 9% abv is really not an issue here. Interesting and pretty complex ale overall. Recommended!

spointon, Jun 10, 2009
Photo of samEBC
4/5  rDev +5.5%

samEBC, May 31, 2012
Photo of farrago
3.78/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Super whippedup head of dark tan color, dimples as it dissolves as a swift clip, thick streaks of lacing left behind, eventually settles into foam islands scattered across the surface. Hazily opaque yellow-brown colored liquid, easily visible sediment, might want to stand up the bottle and pour slowly. The first thing which impresses about the nose is the taut, wiry sourness, more inviting than offputting, sour lemons, cocktail bitters, whole cloves and nutmeg, the malts appear dry, like powdered cocoa, not fruity per se, as many raisin and prune scents as cherry or plum. Light-bodied, the sediment does add to a grittier texture, very dry throughout, the carbonation light and moderately active. Sour and yeasty, red cherry, yellow raisin and apricot pits. Brown sugar and carob add a pinch of sweetness. Ends with a swirl of pepper and herbaceousness. Unabashedly idiosyncratic, methinks it would show best with food. As well as closer to room temperature.

farrago, Nov 30, 2009
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Eerwaarde Pater from Brouwerij Het Alternatief
85 out of 100 based on 36 ratings.