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2 Turtle Doves - The Bruery

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2 Turtle Doves2 Turtle Doves

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BA SCORE
91
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406 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 406
Reviews: 244
rAvg: 4.06
pDev: 11.33%
Wants: 192
Gots: 263 | FT: 15
Brewed by:
The Bruery visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

2 Turtle Doves is the second in the 12 Days/Years of Christmas Series. We decided to take our inspiration from the name and base the beer on the "turtle" candy, brewing it with cocoa nibs, toasted pecans, caramelized sugar and a lot of caramel malts. Somewhere between a Belgian-style Dark Strong Ale and an Imperial Porter, this beer is designed to take the journey through time until 12 Drummers Drumming.

(Beer added by: Overlord on 10-12-2009)
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1.75/5  rDev -56.9%

chippo33, Sep 27, 2014
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2/5  rDev -50.7%

jpajpajeff, Apr 27, 2012
Photo of barleywinefiend
2.13/5  rDev -47.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Poured a dark brown color with good carbonation and a fluffy tannish head. Nose is a complete let down. Smelled funky, booze. Taste is hot up front, immediate turn off, sourness, cocoa and the pecan is a struggle to find. Mouthfeel is hot, sknunky, unpleasant. Drinkability. No thanks.

barleywinefiend, Mar 19, 2010
Photo of ejimhof
2.5/5  rDev -38.4%

ejimhof, Dec 25, 2012
Photo of cokes
2.55/5  rDev -37.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Virtually black, molten dark ruby topped with a glacier of slowly receding tan floe.
The nose is all port booziness, dark chocolate, and especially chalk board astringency-- the unfortunate byproduct of the interplay between the yeast and the rambunctious carbonation.
Basically, it's chalk at first and chocolately booze as it sits and warms.
Not what I was hoping for. But it's better than what I'll get.
It hits the mouth and explodes with hot fudge-drenched espresso beans. Way roastier than I was prepared for, but I can dig it. Some dark breadiness, with pinpricks of spiciness from either the yeast or from rye along with gentle notes clove and vanilla. All that is well and good, but it's quickly becoming a bubbling doomsday caldera of cocoa. It's all chocolate at the expense of everything else. People are screaming as it speeds towards their habitations. The cooling magma burps up port wine and gaseous fumes of booze. Fizzly and sizzly and eruptive up front, it grips and it sits and it cloys after a bit and it coats and it won't go away, and it preserves every horror to be memorialized eternally. It's fucking Pompeii all over again.

This is all excess. No finess. No depth. No nuance. Just shock and awe...and it does neither for me.

It reeks of the worst of Southern Tier's "candy" beers. If you are a fan of those, here's a sibling.
I'm glad I only bought one, as I doubt time will alter this much. You all can have the rest of this overpriced hype volcano.

cokes, Jan 28, 2010
Photo of rpstevens
2.83/5  rDev -30.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a bottle into a smuttynose tulip. The pour yields a thick, two finger head that quickly fades to a thin layer over the beer. There is a small amount of sticky bubbly lacing on the sides of the glass, but not much. The beer is a dark brown, almost black, much darker than expected for the style, but interesting and inviting.

The smell is a lot of toffee, burnt sugar cookie malt and a slight hint of dark chocolate and vanilla sweetness (bordering on alcohol booziness).

The taste follows the smell almost exactly, the roasted malts and bitter dark chocolates hit first, followed by toffee, sugar cookies and vanilla. The beer finishes with a weird orange peel citrus sweetness/tartness that is a bit out of place. There is also a slight hint of slaty nuttiness throughout the flavor as the beer warms, adding depth, but not necessarily quality.

The beer is more carbonated than expected for the high abv, and the alcohol is well hidden, but the flavors of just don't meld together and compliment each other the way they should. This is the second Bruery beer I have had that leaves a weird taste in my mouth... Just an unfinished, almost complete beer that just isn't right...

rpstevens, Dec 27, 2009
Photo of craytonic
2.88/5  rDev -29.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Pour looks like the muddy mississippi. Mocha with some dark veins; no real lace, but the head was huge. Looks a bit over-carbonated, this brewer seems to struggle with carbonation a bit.

Smell: Burnt, acidic malt and bread, alcohol, pecans, cocoa nibbs. Perhaps some fruit that is over-carimalized to the point it is just on the left side of burnt. Not really tempting, smells more like a random assortment of over-cooked flavors.

Taste: Sharp, acidic, burnt coffee edge with pecans, cocoa nibs, brown sugar, and alcohol. All stick out separately, none work together

Mouthfeel: Perhaps a bit over-carbonated for the style, not smooth, alcohol not hidden.

Drinkability: Low, the high ABV is not concealed, very aggressive flavors that do not compliment each other.

Not a big fan, but I did not like partridge in a pear tree either. Could have bought a few but at $20 a bottle I am glad I did not. I rate like it says, with 3.0 being average, and I found this to be below average.

craytonic, Dec 26, 2009
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3/5  rDev -26.1%

IdrinkGas, Jan 05, 2012
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3/5  rDev -26.1%

Greenplastic615, Aug 12, 2013
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3/5  rDev -26.1%

SocalKicks, Mar 27, 2014
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3/5  rDev -26.1%

RichBeer, Nov 16, 2011
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3/5  rDev -26.1%

wrightst, Jun 20, 2014
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3/5  rDev -26.1%

CityofBals, Sep 12, 2013
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3/5  rDev -26.1%

PhineasGage, Jan 27, 2012
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3/5  rDev -26.1%

jerz, Nov 16, 2011
Photo of pmccallum86
3.03/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a brown color with a thin off white head.

Smell is of alcohol, dried fruits, nutmeg, and molasses.

Taste is alcohol up front, followed by dried fruit and spices. Very average example of the style.

Mouthfeel is carbonated and a little thin with an alcohol burning lingering on the tongue.

Average drinkability, average beer.

pmccallum86, Dec 26, 2010
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3.08/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Not really interested in saving it for some sort of vertical, especially since the first in the series is unjustly super rare now.

Pours a dark brown color with amber hues when held up to the light, huge tan head that fades slowly at first then speeds up with warmth, not much in the way of lacing.

Smell has a huge roasted malt aroma with a tinge of metalic, not picking up much of the cocoa nibs or pecans sadly.

Taste starts out with roasted malt and a good amount of dark fruit and candied sugar, big sticky mouthfeel, the alcohol then sneaks up and doesn't seem to leave, if it wasn't for those immediate flavors every time I take a sip the taste would be much lower because of the lingering alcohol.

deltatauhobbit, Mar 19, 2010
Photo of DavoleBomb
3.15/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a snifter.

4.0 A: Hazed dark brown to black color. One finger of thick, light brown, whipped cream head with average retention and not really any lacing.

4.0 S: The nose is full of raw cacao and semi-sweet chocolate. Secondarily, something along the lines of walnut, then blackstrap molasses, some roastiness, toastiness, plum, raisin, and tobacco. Pretty good, but a lot of the flavors still seem a bit muddled. This could very well smooth out by the completion of the diagonal.

3.0 T: The taste is still quite raw and not really any better than fresh. The sip begins with an overload of booze and sweetness. Chocolate is there again with an overload of caramel and toffee. After that comes raisin, tobacoo, walnut and pecan. On the finish, the beer pulls a complete 180 and has a strong roastiness and an accompanying bitterness. In the aftertaste the sweetness starts building back up to the point of almost cloying. A lot of strong flavors that don't really work well with each other, at least not yet.

3.0 M: Heavier medium to heavy body. Good amount of carbonation, but it isn't spritzy like in a well made Belgian. Too syruppy and chewy for my liking. Sweetness lingers.

2.5 D: The flavor profile is still a mess and it's too sweet and chewy to have any sort of drinkibility.

DavoleBomb, Feb 21, 2011
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3.25/5  rDev -20%

CoolEthan, Mar 27, 2014
Photo of raverjames
3.3/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Black yet opaque. 1-finger head with ok head retention.
S: Cider and cocoa. There is a fruity smell here that is pretty strange.
T: More cider. A bit of chocolate. I am not sure if I taste the pecans, but there is a Belgian like yeast flavor.
M: A bit hot and could really benefit from some age. Carbonation is decent, but the booze is not well hidden. A bit too sweet.
D: Not so good. This beer should have been aged before release. The flavors are good, but mostly hidden by the cider flavor (bi-product of high abv beers).
I did not find this beer as enjoyable as all the other Bruery beers I have tried. It is good, but not on the same level as their other brews. There are too many off flavors that I did not expect. I will revisit in about a year to see how things have turned out.

raverjames, Dec 20, 2009
Photo of donkeyrunner
3.35/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours chestnut brown, sits opaque black in mine glass. Large, creamy, sand colored head sports incandescent bubbles like ornaments upon the tree. Ah, the holidays. Ah, beer. All that lovely head for some thin collared retention. Not a speck of lace.

Smells grapey. Cocoa, licorice and caramel bubble up in the dark and fruity wake. Maybe some pecan nuttyness but I think that's just because I'm straining.

Grape drank is up front, first and the foremost again. Some heat, cocoa and caramel sweetness but 'tis a mere afterthought. Thick mouthfeel is not as creamy as it should be and the carbonation is relaxed.

Too much dark fruit and and not enough of the promised pecan and cocoa.

donkeyrunner, Dec 26, 2010
Photo of Alieniloquium
3.36/5  rDev -17.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Deep brown. Small khaki head.

Smell - Chocolate. Some fruitiness. A little nutty. Lots of caramel. A little oxidation.

Taste - Very sweet. Caramel. A bit of tart cherry flavor. Oxidized. Some chocolate.

Mouthfeel - Medium low carbonation. Kinda oxidized.

Overall - Old, but good.

Alieniloquium, Sep 21, 2014
Photo of ToddT
3.38/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A- Dark brown almost black with a light brown head. Head falls quickly and leaves little to no lace on the glass.

S- Caramel, toffee, alcohol, and pecans.

T- Taste follows the nose, very sweet, lots of heat from the alcohol in the finish.

M- Medium in body, but a little thinner than expected, low to almost no carbonation. Would have liked it to be a little more creamy or silky feeling.

D- Very sweet and a noticeable alcohol presence, going to lose some points here.

An OK sipper but not one I'm going to revisit anytime soon.

ToddT, Dec 22, 2010
Photo of vacax
3.43/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at The Bruery Tasting Room.

Pours between black and very dark brown with a thin dark tan head. Smells of phenolic Belgian yeast with some nuance of dark chocolate and some earthiness. Tastes of darkly roasted grains, grape, phenols, and chocolate. Midpalate sensation brings some flora followed by a spicy finish with some cookielike notes. Medium in body, which feels a touch watery due to a high level of carbonation. I was expecting this one to be thick, but it really deviates from that expectation.

This reminds of of an imperial Black Orchard really. The cocoa nibs and toasted pecans sounded delightful, but they are generally unnoticeable for me. A strong roasty Belgian dark with little special appeal for me. The barrel aged version should be an improvement.

vacax, Oct 27, 2009
Photo of jp7161
3.5/5  rDev -13.8%

jp7161, Dec 22, 2011
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2 Turtle Doves from The Bruery
91 out of 100 based on 406 ratings.