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2 Turtle Doves - The Bruery

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249 Reviews
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Reviews: 249
Hads: 436
rAvg: 4.04
pDev: 8.91%
Wants: 197
Gots: 258 | FT: 13
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California, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Overlord on 10-12-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

2 Turtle Doves is the second in the 12 Days/Years of Christmas Series. We decided to take our inspiration from the name and base the beer on the "turtle" candy, brewing it with cocoa nibs, toasted pecans, caramelized sugar and a lot of caramel malts. Somewhere between a Belgian-style Dark Strong Ale and an Imperial Porter, this beer is designed to take the journey through time until 12 Drummers Drumming.
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Photo of Arenbeer
4.23/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks a lot to Mikesgroove who sent this to me around this time last year. I decided to open it for Christmas Eve to celebrate.

750ML bottle into a snifter glass

A- Opens with a nice hiss for being a year old. Pours a solid black with a HUGE! light brown tan head that goes down slowly but surely. Thick creamy lacing on the side of the glass.

S- Nice dark malts and belgian yeast up front with a sweetness from dark fruits like figs or raisins and a strong pecan note that smells just awesome. Definitely some alcohol in there as it warms.

T- Nice dark roasted malts that give off some chocolate hints and maybe coffee. Really nice mix of dark fruits in there that blend well with the yeast. And to finish it off is a great pecan flavor that sweetens things up but at the same time gives it a burnt like finish. Also a nice fullness from the alcohol in there that gives it a nice sting when it warms.

M- Super full thick and creamy body with moderate to low carbonation a nice wet yet dry finish from the pecans.

Overall this is a great holiday brew. Plan on pairing it with some Prime Rib in a few minutes with the family.

Merry Christmas everybody!

SkÅL! (1,170 characters)

Photo of cosmicevan
4.35/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

backstory...recently got a bottle of this but wanted to hang onto it for a bit but was dying to try it, so i traded for a 2nd bottle. bottle shows up today and has a slight leak and is hissing out CO2. i taped the cap like a madman, tossed it in the fridge to revisit later...now is later.

a-Opened with a pop despite the little leak and then there was a bit of a geyser so I quickly poured it into a unibroue tulip. head was creamy tan, intense and extreme since this glass is great for inducing frothy foamy head with great lacing. Beer poured a deep brownish purple...looked really nice.

s-Smells like the box it came in ;). Thick and rich, and strong smelling. Caramel, roasted malts, nuttiness, sweet plum and a touch of maple syrup.

t-Very festive. The nutty (toasted pecans perhaps) backbone gives it something a bit unique. The chocolate nibs can be found in the flavor as well, but not dominating. Has characteristics of the style, but with a twist of chocolate, caramel, pecan/nutty...and a tad roasted.

m/d-Smooth and easy to drink. Really quite good. A bit hot which gives it a sort of syrup-like xteme beer kind of vibe. I had traded for this bottle with the intention of drinking it soon but was caught a bit off guard when it was leaking upon arrival (note to traders...tape your cap good on this one)...but a great beer for the night before the night before xmas. (1,383 characters)

Photo of claspada
4.01/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Aromas are initally sweet milky cocoa with some lighter dark roastiness. Second wiff envokes dark chocolate covered cherries, like those cherry cordial truffles/candies. Some fainter vanilla and sweet caramels; really trying to find the nuttiness (fromt the turtle candy theme) but I cannot. The taste is intially sweet caramel, bitter dark chocolate and nutty (there are the nuts) but quicky heads to an earthy bitter finish; not unpleasant just unexpected. The mouthfeel is thick but finishes dry, which I love. I hate syrupy thick sweet messes; which this is def NOT. The alcohol is completely undetectable; a year has done this well. This is a real treat. Honestly the aroma is to die for and the taste complements it superbly. The only detractor on this brew is that it is a tad candy sweet, bordering on cloying but the Belgian yeast helps to balance it out, an American or Belgian or German yeast couldnt have handled this wort but the Belgian handled it well.

Added note: As this warms it actually becomes more caramelly, cloying, syrupy and extremely LESS drinkable. I am fairly surprised because I have not encountered a beer in any recent memory that has lost quality/flavor as it warms. Room temperature not recommended... (1,235 characters)

Photo of ToddT
3.4/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A- Dark brown almost black with a light brown head. Head falls quickly and leaves little to no lace on the glass.

S- Caramel, toffee, alcohol, and pecans.

T- Taste follows the nose, very sweet, lots of heat from the alcohol in the finish.

M- Medium in body, but a little thinner than expected, low to almost no carbonation. Would have liked it to be a little more creamy or silky feeling.

D- Very sweet and a noticeable alcohol presence, going to lose some points here.

An OK sipper but not one I'm going to revisit anytime soon. (535 characters)

Photo of mentor
3.87/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Aged in my cellar one year. Strong hiss upon opening, but didn't foam over. Pours a three finger chocolate brown head over a very dark brown liquid. Smells both dry baker's chocolate and wet milk chocolate, pear esters, fig malt, blackberry, coffee that's been on a pot too long. Now that I've read the label, yes, I definitely get pecan, like pecan tastes in butter pecan ice cream.

Tastes delicious. Strongly of sweet chocolate countered by a belgian yeast spiciness, drying alcohol, and a woody dry finish. Part of the zip of the spicy is likely alcohol sting and from the strong carbonation. Other flavors are pear, nutmeg, licorice, mild clove, and char. Nut, blackberry, chocolate cookie dough, and a bit of orange in the finish.

The flavors are a bit disjointed and will hopefully come together as this beer ages. No indication of sherry-like oxidation. Md body that comes across a bit less due to the strong carbonation that causes the beer to foam up a bit on the tongue. (982 characters)

Photo of Tinfoilrcr
3.59/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at rattle n hum. Poured into a snifter.

Dark reddish brown with little to no head. Dark fruit and cherry with hunt of booze on the nose. Tasty is sour cherries with booze finish. Mouthfeel is lihter than expected. Drinkabilityis slow. Couldn't have too many in row. (274 characters)

Photo of Bendurgin
3.98/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I got this one from Mikesgroove so thanks again! Poured into a tulip. The beer pours dark brown with a big light tan head with good retention and thin lace. The aroma is very fruity. But it's like really fresh juicy fruits. It rounds out with a touch of sweet nuttiness, vanilla. nutmeg and spicy bitter cocoa. The taste follows the smell by starting out with a fruity profile, along the lines of figs and plumbs. It finishes out with nutty flavors, a touch of sweetness and a dominant bitter cocoa flavor to finish. The mouthfeel is full and the beer has kind of a coarse feeling to it (I don't know how else to describe it). I would guess this comes from the cocoa nibs. The beer is rich in flavor and still a bit boozy even after a year, but damn enjoyable. (760 characters)

Photo of sitarist
4.08/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to ShogoKawada for this treat. Reviewed blind...blind beers bif round 3.

The beer gushes slightly when I open it. Pours a deep, opaque brown. Nice thick tan head that last a couple minutes before falling to a ring. Minimal spots of lacing.

I smell coco, and more coco. There are hints of dark fruit, root-beer, nuts, and yeast. This is unique it reminds me of a porter with added chocolate.

I taste the chocolate from the nose, with hints of chicory, horehound, coffee, maple, pecans, and walnuts. Chocolate dominates the flavor profile, but is kept in check by all the other components.

This beer has a heavy body with a fair amount of carbonation. It is sticky and takes its time distributing the flavors across my tongue. Almost cola like. I would say its has a dry finish.

Goes down easy, but my rosy cheeks are telling me to slow down. This is a very well made beer that seems to defy style limitations! (922 characters)

Photo of bbeane
4.35/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A- Poured into a snifter... starts with a brownish slightly creamy/fizzy head that lingers shortly before disappearing. Leaves light lacing. Beer is dark copper colored, and doesn't allow much light if any to shine through

S- Smells delicious. Has the great malty and dark fruit sweetness of a quality belgian strong with a subtle chocolate presense

T- Again has the malty sweet aspects of a Belgian strong, but the chocolate comes through a whole lot more in the taste than in the aroma. Maybe get a slight taste of the toasted pecans in the start but then its sweet malt, dark fruit, and a substancial amount of chocolate in that lingers clinging to your taste buds after swallowing

M- Full bodied with mild carbonation. Great chocolatey aftertaste lingers in your mouth

D- So disappointed this one is retired. This would be my new favorite Christmas beer, though I don't know if I'll ever come across another. If you see one definitely buy to try!! And if theres more buy them and BM me!!

CHEERS!! (1,005 characters)

Photo of garbercury
4.37/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

09 Vintage. Poured into snifter, shared with friend.

A--Dark brew, solid lacing

S--Excellent nose, toasted pecan, sweet malts...

T--Great flavor, this has mellowed a good bit since it was bottled, sweet flavor, toasty pecans highlight the finish, this tastes fabulous.

M--Smooth MF, very good.

D--At 12% this will obviously hit you hard, but a great sipper on a winter night. I am going to try and hold on to my extra bottle, but without the PiApT it might not be worth trying to hold on to for a vertical... (513 characters)

Photo of boomer31
3.66/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a deep brown, near black, with brown around the edges. A very nice dark tan head. Semi-sticky on the glass.

S - Burnt malts and a hint of chocolate and molasses

T - Chocolate and that belgian spiciness from the yeast, nuttiness in the back. A hint of alcohol and big sweetness and sticky sugar lingers.

M - Rich and chocolaty. Sticky on the palate

D - Very sweet, very rich but enjoyable. Split a bottle with some friends.

I was really looking forward to this beer when I traded for it. I knew I'd hold on to it until closer to the holidays, figured today's tsnownami was a good time to crack it. (613 characters)

Photo of caddybuyer
3.85/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Aged for one year and poured at cellar temperature into a goblet.

A-Dark brown pour with only a raisin colored highlight at the edges when held to the light. Creamy tan head that settles rapidly.

S-Pungent chocolate, caramel, a hint of dark fruit in the background.

T-Turtle candies? Yeah, I see that. Chocolate is clearly the backbone here and appears twice, once at the initial sip in a bittersweet form, then again at the back end of the finish but much sweeter. The midrange gives way to some darker fruits. Peeking its head throughout the palate is a slight sour apple that provides an interesting counterpoint. Nuttyness is here too, but I'm guessing that I'm extrapolating a bit on this from the whole pecan cluster thing. Alcohol present mostly in a warming way. This blends together well, but could benefit from some additional age. Glad I resisted the temptation to open this last year but I will wait a few years to open my other bottle.

M-Feel is good, but I'd be looking for a bit more of a robust creamyness that what is present here...not bad mind you, and certainly not overcarbonated like so many Belgians, but it doesn't blow me away.

D-If you are a sweet beer fan you might like this, and I do, but I'm not gushing over it. Glad I tried it, glad I have another aging, but I don't think I will go out of my way to buy another if I come across it. Not to make a commentary about this brewery based on the three beers I have tried but it all seems a little over hyped, and most certainly over priced. (1,522 characters)

Photo of RedBrewer83
4.3/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into goblet...

A: Pours a dark brown mostly opaque body, light tan head of about two inches. Pretty good retention, leaves nice lacing.

S: Big aroma of molasses, chocolate, hint of smoke, definitely get the nuttiness from the pecans, lots of dried fruit aroma as well along with some maple syrup and brown sugar characteristics as well.

T: Follows the nose with the molasses and chocolate being upfront and all of the nuances of the other flavors come in afterward in a very balanced and smooth manner with lots of depth. Pretty incredible beer, curious to see how it will be in ten years!

M: Very smooth medium body, nice carbonation, slightly creamy, dry finish, and the 12% abv is entirely hidden.

D: Incredibly drinkable and very very smooth. Excited to see how this one ends up in the lineup in ten years. (822 characters)

Photo of FosterJM
4.13/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

53rd review on BA
Bottle to Tulip

App- It poured a very dark brown with some wonderful crimson highlights. Had a very pillowy 2 finger head that was a very nice dark tan. The head lasted quite a bit and the retention was nice as well.

Smell- It's a slightly burnt maltiness to it. Had a smell of chocolate chip cookies to me with a caramel offset.

Taste- This is really a big drinking beer. Had the toasted taste with coffee, and pecans with the darker fruits as well.

Mouth- Full bodied with a nice feel on the palate, wasn't overly dry either.

Drink- It was a dessert in a glass. I didnt have anything around the house to pair it with. I would have loved to have something decadent to go along side it to compliment the flavors. I am really becoming a fan of the Bruery after working hard to get Piapt and 2TD. I wasn't dissapointed. (840 characters)

Photo of Gobzilla
4.02/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: poured a very dark brown almost black with reddish brown highlights that had a finger of tan colored head which dissipated quickly and left bubbly lacing sticking to the head.

S: I definitely was able to spot out some coocoa nib aromas with maple, slight brown sugar, nutty pecans,and some lacto chocolate notes. There was also a little booze presence as well.

T: Roastiness and coffee notes were apparent on the taste which I was not able to detect on the nose but it did have nutty pecans, cococa nib, maple syrup, and brown sugar accents. I was able to taste some booze but did not seem like a 12% brew.

M: the brew was medium to full in body with a good amount of carbonation which had a sweet, nutty, and slight boozy finish.

D: It drank pretty good considering the the ABV on the beer but IMO it was better tasting fresh. It was still tasty but not as tasty. (871 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
4.12/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes.

Pours a dark brown with a large off white head and some good lacing as it goes down my tulip. Nose brings forward really nice notes of caramel, toasted nuts, molasses, brown sugar, and some generic sweetness.

The taste adds in some dark fruits in addition to molasses, caramel, nuts, and some sweet malt. Medium body with a bit of booze and nice carbonation levels. A really interesting concept and quite tasty. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this develops over the years. (506 characters)

Photo of hooliganlife
4.25/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

pour was a nice thick dark brown with faint hint of plum. little to no head.

lots of dark fruit, sweetness, light chocolate and raisin.

nice moderate sweetness through out. the toasted pecans really held out through this as well. nice faint light nutty flavor. lots of chocolate and dark fruit such as fig and raisin.

fairly thick body, mild carbonation. very filling and a bit chewy.

this was delicious and thanks to whomever brought this (i forget who brought this), it was a treat. at 12%, i do find a trace of heat. (524 characters)

Photo of tpd975
3.65/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a nice rich dark black hue with a small tan head. Pretty good retention but no lace.

S: Nice strong chocolate notes with tons of dark fruit. Hints of candy sweetness underneath with bits of roast.

T: Loads of rich dark fruit. Figs and raisins really stand out. Wonderful raw cocoa notes with strong candy like malt notes. The nuts give the same sort of unpleasant flavor that I pick up in all beer that use nuts. Mild coffee undertones with a hint of booze.

M: Rather full in body, mild carbonation

D: Just okay did I mention I don't like beers with nuts in them? (576 characters)

Photo of AdamGarcia
4.02/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle served in SN 30th tulip.

A: Pours a murky dark brown. Like the coat of a chocolate lab. Several fingers of thick coffee foam head form immediately. Retention is strong.

S: Dark fruits dominate the aroma. Plum, blackberry, red grape. Little bit of citrus zest. Hints of dark cocoa powder. Slightly boozy. Sherry-like scents. Fairly complex.

T: Sweet and rich. Big, bold dark fruit flavors. Milk chocolate from the malt and bitter, dark chocolate from the cocoa nibs. Moderate degree of roast. Picking up just a hint of nuttiness, but I think it may only be because I know pecans are involved...if it wasn't listed on the label I may very well have missed it all together. Slight notes of citric hops are mostly overshadowed. Finishes with a chocolatey, but somewhat dry aftertaste.

M: No problems here. Soft, creamy feel.

D: As decadent as anything I've ever consumed. Would pair great with chocolatey desserts.

Another nice beer from The Bruery. I've yet to have something that I haven't enjoyed from Patrick & co...and I've never even tried the likes of BT or similarly difficult to obtain brews that The Bruery releases. (1,144 characters)

Photo of unclejimbay
4/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bruery Review, we performed a comprehensive sampling of Bruery beers courtesy of CampusCrew and Troywittaker on 8/13/2010. Cheers this was a great sampling and evening guys!
I reviewed all brews we tasted in order of sampling, info, and some minor notes for my future homebrew reference. These reviews are to serve as a comprehensive review of the beers as purchased during 2010, sampled 8/13/2010 with about a group of 8 tasters.

This was the order of sampling...

Saison Rue, 8.5% abv

Mischief, 8.5% abv

Tradewinds Tripel, 8.1%

Orchard White, 5.7% abv

Black Orchard, 5.7% abv

2 Turtle Doves, 12% abv
Belgian Dark Ale brewed with cocoa nibs, toasted pecans.
Gives a nice dark caramel/toffee character with mild hints of a nice mellow chocolate layer.

Coton (2010 Anniversary Beer) 14.5%

RUGBROD, 8% abv

Autumn Maple, 10% abv (846 characters)

Photo of Wasatch
4.3/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to roopy40 for this brew.

750ml Bottle

Poured into a chalice a very nice dark brown color, nice carbonation, very nice one-finger plus tan head, with some nice thick/creamy sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, with some nice chocolate/toffee notes, vanilla, and some spices. The taste is very nice, malty, very nice touch of chocolate/toffee/cocoa, vanilla sweetness, and some spice notes. Full/Medium body, ABV hidden very well. Very Drinkable, this is a joy to drink, recommended. (509 characters)

Photo of CampusCrew
4.3/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I hosted a Bruery tasting and we had 9 of the bottles collected. we had 4-6 oz samples. I'm reviewing these on memory from a few nights ago.

Retired??? What... Bring this back. Nice Dark Ale. Poured deep dark brown. tons of toffee, caramel flavors. not sweet at all. Well done. Wish I could have agian. (303 characters)

Photo of koopa
4.12/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle purchased at Capone's in Norristown PA.

Appearance: Pours black with a 1 finger off white crown that shows moderate retention and little lace.

Smell: Dark roasted malt, cocoa that gets more prominent as the brew warms, toasted pecans, and a hint of honey sweetness.

Taste: Same as smell but I keep getting this tasty fruit flavor..almost strawberry like which perplexes me. Hint of alcohol in the finish.

Mouthfeel: On the heavy side of medium bodied, a touch syrupy, with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability: Pretty good despite the mouthfeel and abv. (571 characters)

Photo of abecall98
4.37/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Grabbed a couple of these. One to age, one for now.

A - pours a dark crey black. Looks thicker than it actually feels. A slight tan head is formed, doesn't stay long, nor does it stick.

S - smells really good. Sweet, like ripe cherries. Some cocoa in the nose as well. Dark roasty malt dominate the end if the wiff.

T - very sweet, but in a pleasing way. Starts off with some nice nutiness, some dark fruit flavors are very present, like plums. Some alcohol in the finish. Needs to sit a little bit longer. The heat is offputting.

M - lightly carbonated. The beer is very creamy and the flavor sticks to ever taste bid in the mouth.

D - very good. The flavors are spot on, the beer drinks amazingly well given it's monster 12% abv.

O - I am happy to have another bottle of this bad boy. I look forward too see how it ages. I think it can only get better as it cools off. (878 characters)

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.92/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bittersweet chocolate brown with slim highlights of orange and gold barely visible along the bottom edge. The golden khaki colored crown filled slightly more than half the glass on the pour and is deflating in slow motion. It never does becomes rocky, or visually interesting, and lays down almost no lace.

The nose is redolent of dark caramel and cocoa, with a background earthiness. Maybe a hint of toasted pecans, but I never would have gotten there on my own. An olfactory flicker of tart fruit is worrisome.

The Bruery 2 Turtle Doves is not light years better than Partridge In A Pear Tree, as was hoped. It might be a little bit better, once warming has occurred and the various flavors have had a chance to meld. It isn't a classic BSDA by any means, but that's probably the most accurate choice. Belgian-style stout would work too.

Specifics include pumpernickel bread, chocolate-covered caramels, tangy medium-dark fruit, black licorice and cloves. Alcohol is exceptionally well-masked, especially given the ABV. In the end, it comes together just well enough to earn the taste score seen above.

Despite being decently bubbled (never a certainty with these guys), the body/mouthfeel doesn't wow. It needs more size and especially more voluminous creaminess. Maybe the carbonation could use some work after all.

The Bruery has never really delivered on their early promise. Only a couple of saisons (Rue and De Lente) have been truly impressive. 2 Turtle Doves is good beer that was worth the purchase price, but I'll be looking for something more from 3 French Hens. (1,580 characters)

2 Turtle Doves from The Bruery
90 out of 100 based on 249 ratings.