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Cuir - The Bruery

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

528 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 528
Reviews: 188
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 12.05%
Wants: 74
Gots: 428 | FT: 26
Brewed by:
The Bruery visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  14.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Cuir is our third anniversary ale. It is the same recipe as Papier, but again created using the Solera method. Each year we will continue to blend old barrels of anniversary ale with a new batch of the same beer, adding an additional layer of complexity that will grow over time as we continue to age and blend with each anniversary, creating an older average age to the ale.

(Beer added by: Halcyondays on 05-07-2011)
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Photo of drabmuh
4.43/5  rDev +6.7%

Beer served in my Bruery tulip, bottle 03479 for what it is worth. Beer is brown and hazy with a big off white head of small bubbles, nice retention, lots of lacing and moderate to high carbonation.

Beer smells sweet, molasses, bready, yeast, brown sugar. Smells good.

Beer is very sweet, lots of booze but tolerable. Tobacco, mild, nice yeast character. Smooth alcohol sweetness, mildly dry finish. Beer is really creamy and flavorful. I am really feeling this beer. Much better than Coton was last year. I really like it.

drabmuh, Jun 08, 2011
Photo of smakawhat
4.4/5  rDev +6%

Poured on tap at Pizza Paradiso Dupont DC into a medium snifter, 10oz pour.. it's happy hour time!

A foamy tan head that is off yellow, with lots of stickyness. Cloudy body of dark somewhat murky brown is present. It's a real nice color and the head has incredible staying power.

First smell is table wine, then a big sense of caramel malts and sweetness. Concord like grape then cherry comes over with incredible fruit punch along with this malty backbone. Quite different.

Taste is at first a chocolate milk bent but more emphasis on a dry powdered malt almost Abuleta breakfast like. Grape sensation comes through with a dense body, almost... just a hint of citrus grapefruit wanting to peak out. Finish has a quinine tonic water sense but without the wetness, and ever so slight.

Overall very impressive, but kind of an odd mish mash of things. I think the brew is a little polarizing, I think people are either going to love this or hate it. It's high abv is incredibly masked and is still super drinkable, without a big boozy alcohol bomb in your stomach. For me this brew is great but also stupidly dangerous and sometimes, that's not a bad thing.

smakawhat, Jun 07, 2011
Photo of caskstrength
3.85/5  rDev -7.2%

Pours a very nice dark red, appropriate carbonation. Actually could have been fewer bubbles given the style and ABV, but I'd rather have a bit too much than not enough.

Smells are on the complex side of things. Plums, leather, and brown sugar are the main players. No solvents, no alcohol.

Tastes are not as good as the smells. More warmth, dark fruits the main thing. Some leather/tobacco. Not very sweet, seems well attenuated for such a big Old Ale.
Would have liked more barrel. (25% not enough). 14.5% alcohol...I certainly didn't taste it.

Mouthfeel was great. This isn't a thick beer, nor a thin one. Carbonation lifts things. More dry than I expected.

This is good. But it's not $20 a 750ml good. Is it just an appetizer for the 100% barrel aged version?

caskstrength, Jun 07, 2011
Photo of IKR
4.13/5  rDev -0.5%

Appearance: Slightly cloudy medium-brown. moderate beige head that dissipated quickly. I think the head is larger than that of my Coton I drank last month

Smell: Belgian yeast notes, some mild prune & brown sugar notes. I get the slightest hint of bourbon and some alcohol, To me the nose was more pronounced on the roughly 1 year old Coton I had.

Taste: Fruity sherry notes, some dark fruits, brown sugar and with traces of bourbon on the tail end. The Solera method used is evident compared to my Coton I had a month ago. Still has a fairly sweet taste, but the aging is bringing some additional complexity to the party.

Mouth-feel: Full body with a fair amount of carbonation.

Overall: A good beer which is different enough from Coton to make it worthwhile of obtaining by Bruery Anniversary Beer fans. I'm looking forward to drinking the Bal-aged version.

IKR, Jun 05, 2011
Photo of crusian
2.53/5  rDev -39%

Bottle from my brother from Colorado.
Pours a nice dark brown with like 3 fingers of head. Looks great!
Smells a bit tart... with a ton of booze behind it. Smells like a boozy sour to he honest, which is not what I expected from this at all. No sign of oak, no sign of bourbon.
Taste has a lot of leather, ironically, a lot if dark fruits. There does seem to be a tiny bit of tartness to it... maybe beginning signs of infection... but don't want to start anything. There is a big bitter finish also with some vanilla, which I guess gives me some of the barrel aging. To he honest, I don't really like this. It leaves a nasty aftertaste that coats the back of my throat. Other than that the barrel aging isn't noticeable. The coton was MUCH better in my opinion. Good mouthfeel... everything about this is good except the smell and taste, lol.

crusian, Jun 05, 2011
Photo of Pahn
4.55/5  rDev +9.6%

750ml bottle into a pint glass. Split with BA morningthief and his wife.

Appearance: Careful pour yields a 1 inch, fluffy light tan head that dissipates steadily and lacelessly. Pours a hazy dark red brown. No lacing, huge legs.

Smell: Belgian yeast and barbecue sauce. Some oak, hint of band-aid (not as offensive as when present in a beer's flavor), smoke, and some smells approaching vinegar. Booziness comes out with warmth. With time, settles into an excellent mix of booze, BBQ, leather, Belgian yeast, with some cake and other delicious aromas in the background.

Taste: Immediately presents itself as an excellent old ale. Everything from the nose is here (besides the band-aid), along with with a thick, sweet, hard candy sweetness that's perfectly tempered by the big savory BBQ note, smoke that comes out through the middle, and long hot finish. It's very boldly flavored and sugary, yet succulent. Various cake like flavors pop up... it's not an endlessly deep beer, but new good flavors do keep popping up unexpectedly.

Tastes a lot less fruity than Coton, and the influence of the oak is much less prominent (almost non-existent for the most part). At the same time, the overall balance is much better. Flavor is pushing 5.0; not sure how this could taste much better. Maybe some more oak influence and malt depth would push it over the edge. Maybe just a year of aging. Really outstanding.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied, with moderate carbonation. A little chewy and sticky. Long heat at the end. Significantly better than Coton; more carbonation, less oily slickness. Compliments the flavor.

Overall: I love it. Competitive with Adam for best old ale I've tasted. Maybe there's a problem here or there, but nothing more than a minor quibble. This beer is the Bruery showing off some of the heights of its considerable talent, and is worthy both as an anniversary beer and of the hefty price tag it commands. I'll be picking up another bottle if I can find one.

Pahn, Jun 04, 2011
Photo of trappistlover
3.78/5  rDev -8.9%

(On draught at Papago!). Pours dark caramel with khaki head. Aroma has some smoke, dark, ripe fruit, A-1 steak sauce? Taste is sweet, with a bit of sour twang. Alcohol is well integrated given the abv. Full-bodied with sticky, oily mouthfeel. Smooth finish. Good beer and quite unique.

trappistlover, Jun 03, 2011
Photo of Thorpe429
4.35/5  rDev +4.8%

On tap at Bilbo Baggins in Alexandria. Served in a tulip. Lucky enough to drink this glass while talking to Patrick.

Pours a moderate caramel-copper color with a really nice tan head, especially considering the abv. A bit of lacing on the way down after some good retention. Lacing on the sides of the glass and a collar throughout. The nose carried some strong notes of brown sugar along with a bit of molasses and a touch of alcohol. Light tobacco notes.

The flavor melded everything together beautifully. This thing already tastes quite aged, and it is extraordinarily difficult to believe that it's 14.5%. Smooth brown sugar and molasses with light tobacco and a slight dry bitterness to the finish. Full bodied with only a slight presence of booze. Extraordinarily well done. Glad to know that the trend for these beers is only to get better and better.

Thorpe429, Jun 03, 2011
Photo of DoubleJ
4.13/5  rDev -0.5%

On-tap at Bruery Provisions, on to the beer:

What is this color, brown violet? Ok, how about dark brown that is trying to cross over to violet? Regardless, not much head on top of this one. The nose features lots of brown sugar, dates, a little wood, and even a light tartness.

Have a glass of water nearby, because Cuir is a big bodied beer with a taste that will smuther your palate. No surprise given that this is over 14% ABV. The rush of brown sugar never seems to end. The sweetness of red grapes adds another dimension to this behemoth of a beer. There's a light amount of wood character present. The alcohol is hidden extremely well, which has become synonymous with The Bruery's big beers. Full bodied with a little stick, yet remains very easy to approach.

Not super complex among strong beer, yet remains a beer that is worth trying. I'm already imagining the possible added dimensions of the 100% barrel aged version.

DoubleJ, Jun 02, 2011
Photo of sdderek
4/5  rDev -3.6%

Had a 10oz pour in a tulip on tap at Sea Rocket Bistro for their 3rd anniversary party.

I almost bought this beer but decided the high price tag was worth waiting. I'm glad I did. It's definitely a very well made and interesting brew, however I won't be paying the >$20 for a bottle.

Appearance is great with a full head and a dark reddish brown color.

Smell is boozy with hints of molasses and vanilla.

Taste is crazy sweet with blasts of brown sugar, nutmeg, toasted malts, and vanilla. And booze.

Mouthfeel is medium with a slight booziness (is that even a word?).

Overall I think it's definitely worth trying, but I wouldn't sit at home and drink this 750ml bottle alone.

sdderek, Jun 02, 2011
Photo of Rhettroactive
4.13/5  rDev -0.5%

From 750mL bottle to Bruges hybrid glass on 5/30/11
*From notes

A BIG thanks goes out to siege06nd for sharing this with me in celebration of his 27th Birthday. Cheers, John!

A: Muddy ruby, it's got a touch of crimson to it, but it's faint and really comes off more like deep tree sap. A generous pour yields a magnificent three finger head and attractive lacing.

S: Massive - it's packing a big alcohol punch, with hints of sun dried raisin, prune and brown sugar-caramel.

T: It overwhelms the mouth with brown sugar and dark candied fruits. The alcohol is prevalent, though it really helps to quell the epic amount of malty, buttery richness. Complex and very well balanced for an Old Ale.

M: A bit more bubbly then most other Old Ales I've had. I actually prefer it like this, and the carbonation really helps to break up the density of the brew.

O: The Bruery's Cuir is one to bury in the cellar for a decade. Though it's drinking well now, with time this has the potential to be an absolute masterpiece. Extremely well done, and though it may not be worth the exorbitant price tag, I may end up grabbing one to hang on to for the long haul.

Rhettroactive, Jun 01, 2011
Photo of realmpel
3.9/5  rDev -6%

Maybe it's the solera method being used, but these anniversary brews from the Bruery, which were complex to begin with, are beginning to sport some new layers of flavor that I must say I dig. Cuir has a bit of a chocolate flavor to it that I do not recall tasting in the previous two iterations. Of course, there are lots of similarities, and you get the same thick bourbon-y sweetness as in Papier and Coton. I'm a big fan. This beer is very strong and heavy so I could not have more than one small glass. Still, one to check out.

realmpel, Jun 01, 2011
Photo of FosterJM
4.08/5  rDev -1.7%

518th review on BA
Bottle to Bruery Tulip
750 ML Capped & Waxed
Bottle # 3256

My 1,000th different beer
Consumed 5/27/11

App- A watered down bronze color with dark brown highlights running through it. A big fluffy two finger head. A ring of lace all over and some dotting lace as well.

Smell- Very sweet at first sniff. A lot of dark fruits more leaning towards the dark alcohol laden cherry.

Taste- This was good from the word go but it seems to all run together, hence the 4 not a 4.5 or 5. It was very smooth with a nice blend of vanilla, booze, oak and cherry.

Mouth- Just felt right on the palate. It was a medium body with a medium carbonation and a little bit of thicker fruits. Bubbles on each sip. Quite nice.

Drink- Call it homer pride or whatever you will. I have had more Bruery beers than any other Brewery and pretty much have liked them all except a couple. The third year is over and they came out swinging with this one. Very good. Can't wait for the full BA Cuir.

FosterJM, Jun 01, 2011
Photo of The3rdbeer
4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

Poured into a Bruery tulip at the Bruery, Poured with minimal head.

A- Dark brown hazle almost opaque, minimal head some bubbles in the beer looks to be medium carbonated.

S- Get some Darker old world fruit, a lot of spice, and malt sweetness, and some of the left over oak from the aging, the aroma is getting me ready for the taste !

T- Get that "special occasion" taste upfront, reminding me to check the ABV, 14.5% thats not a shock! wow, upfront with malt, then spice, oldworld fruits brown sugar and what people are claiming to be a faint "BBQ sauce" in the back along with that oak still from the burbon barrels.

M- Medium heavy mouth feel, this beer coats the glass when swirled, the carbonation is medium and the mouth is chewy, perfect for this special occasion warmer.

O- Bought a bottle, little short on cash but I will get another before its all gone and on Ebay for 40 bucks a bottle! What better way to celebrate than to crack this on their forth or fifth anniversary!

Will review bottle when I decide to drink!

Prost!

The3rdbeer, May 29, 2011
Photo of perrymarcus
4.35/5  rDev +4.8%

750ml bottle served in a snifter.

pours a cloudy chestnut tone while yielding a solid 1" of a creamy beige/light tan head (surprising light in color). retention is slightly below moderate (which is an accomplishment given the strength of this beer) and nice lacing evident.

nose offers a sizable amount of dark fruit, caramel malt, and oak... as it warms i get some vanilla, maybe a touch of smoke. i read someone describing this as having almost a barbeque sauce like quality to it, and i do get a little of that.

very malt-forward beer, that's for sure. bold notes of caramel, dark fruits, vanilla, and oak. very complex. the more it warms the more it opens up. i'm appreciating it more with each sip.

chewy, medium to full bodied mouthfeel with adequade carbonation.

overall i have to say this is a pretty fantastic beer. a bit on the sweet side, but complex and tasty. it's at a price point where it's in the 'special ocassion' realm, but would serve well as a special occasion beer.

perrymarcus, May 29, 2011
Photo of chugalug06
4.43/5  rDev +6.7%

A - Pours very nice with gently building head... Brew is awesome clear (without yeast) blood red with brown and orange tannins. The swirl is quite wonderful! Nice bubble retention around the rim.

S - VERY nice sour scent... Lots of Oak (vanilla). Quite a nice deep and dark fruity scent. Maybe some light chocolate too??

T - First taste was overly pear, great opening draw. High booze taste, but will nicely age out. Flavor is very abrasive and strong. Elegant, yet aggressive. Wonderful use of oak aging. This guy has some serious long term potential. Serious fruit flavors... Apple, Pear, Banana, Orange, and Vanilla

M - is for Medium bodied... Great use of light carbonation... Brew is phenomenally textured.

O - A killer brew thanks to Rob for sharing his purchase! Best around room temperature with a little bit of stirring...

chugalug06, May 28, 2011
Photo of Patrickbrusil
4.55/5  rDev +9.6%

This is pretty insane. A big boozy behemoth that is far more complex than I can give it credit.

Pours a deep dark red mahogany color that shimmers of dark ruby's.

Heavy wood aromas in the nose with a sweetness. Slightly sour as well.

The taste is a wallop of a slight sour ness with heady wood elements. The beer is heavy on the malt and a big booze element. Expected at 14.5%. Has many wine characteristics associated with what one would think of a Flanders red.

It's amazing that this beer is at 14.5% abv and is this refreshing. This is my first experience with the Bruery and I'm very impressed looking forward to tasting more.

Patrickbrusil, May 27, 2011
Photo of hopsbreath
4.05/5  rDev -2.4%

Bought at Beaumont Market for $20. 750ml bottle poured into a pair of Portsmouth snifters and shared with TulipSnifter.

A: Murky prune juice body with a finger of Jelly Belly toasted marshmallow hued head that dissipates quickly to a thick wisp ring. No lacing. 3/5

S: Boozy fruits of the sweet vinous kind. Currants are huge along with cherries and figs. A little bit of sherry lends evidence that the solera method is contributing some interesting oxidation. 4.5/5

T: Minor hints of barrel, massive booze, some vanilla, more rich fruits, yeasty esters (banana), and heaps of brown sugar make this a winner. 4/5

M: Moderate body, spritzy carbonation, tongue numbing alcohol, and a sticky finish. All signs of a good Old Ale. 4/5

O: Solid stuff. Not my favorite Old Ale (that distinction goes to Adam), but it's a good beer none the less. It's better fresh then Coton was and has far less heat. 100% BA Coton was one of my favorite beers of 2010. After tasting this, I have high hopes for the all -bal version for this year. 4/5

hopsbreath, May 27, 2011
Photo of oline73
3.93/5  rDev -5.3%

I had this on-tap at Max's.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy dark reddish brown color with a finger of tan head that leaves a ring around the glass.

Smell: Sweet with some spices and smoke coming through. Reminds me a little of a bbq sauce. I'm also picking up some dark fruit.

Taste: Very sweet. Hints of smoke, brown sugar, dark fruit, and some spice. The finish has quite a lot of alcohol in it.

Mouthfeel: Medium to thick body with smooth carbonation. The finish is slick.

Overall: This beer would benefit from some aging in my opinion. I enjoyed it, but I don't know that I could drink more than a few ounces right now. Still a good beer.

oline73, May 27, 2011
Photo of mdfb79
4.05/5  rDev -2.4%

Had on tap today at Galaxy Hut today in Arlington, VA. Poured into a 10 oz. snifter.

a - Pours a deep reddish brown color with less than an inch of light tan head and light carbonation evident.

s - Smells of dark fruits, cherries, oak, molasses, sweet fruit, plums, toffee, and very light vanilla. Little bit of alcohol but not a ton considering 14.5% ABV. A lot fruitier and sweeter than I was expecting. Little more alcohol came out in the nose as it warmed up.

t - Tastes of dark fruits, alcohol, sweet cherries and fruits, oak, toffee, caramel malts, and roasted malts. More toffee and caramel than the nose, as well as more alcohol. No real vanilla in the taste and plenty of sweet fruit again.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. You can notice some alcohol in the taste but this beer isn't hot like Coton was. Surprisingly easy to drink for 14.5% ABV.

o - Overall I liked this one. It didn't blow me away but it was a ton better than Coton, which I did not really like. It was a lot fruitier and sweeter than I was expecting. I've got two bottles of this and considering the high ABV I'll be interested to see what happens to this one after some time in the cellar.

EDIT: 11/04/13 - Had this one again tonight, about 2.5 years later from my initial review. I've had it once since, and the 100% BBA Cuir a few times since (which is one of my favorite Bruery beers ever), and the alcohol has definitely died down a bit. While it is still not as good as Fruet or Bois, it is better than it was fresh (slightly), and still has a lot of sweet fruit. Bumping the Overall from a 4.00 to a 4.25.

mdfb79, May 25, 2011
Photo of timtim
4.53/5  rDev +9.2%

wow. extremely impressed. dark, reddish brown with a small tan head that holds for a little bit and leaves little splotches of lace. better looking than expected actually. nose is burnt caramel, fruit, apple pie, vanilla, oak and leather. maybe it's just power of suggestion, but the leather seems to be there for sure. taste is already well-balanced. would love to see what a few years does to this beer. all kinds of dark fruits and dark sugars in the taste (as well as vanilla, wood, earth and leather), but coming off in an almost bright way, which seems to be mostly due to the amazingly light and soft mouthfeel. like cotton candy. melts in your mouth awesome. elegant comes to mind, and this is certainly an impressive feat for such a huge beer. bruery keeps it top notch with this one. cheers!

timtim, May 25, 2011
Photo of kscaldef
4.2/5  rDev +1.2%

On tap at The Beermongers

A: dark red-brown, one finger tan head that recedes to nothing

S: Caramel, toffee, vanilla

T: As the smell, but also some cherry notes. A slight burnt-bitter finish

M: Full but not cloying. You can definitely taste the alcohol, but less than you'd expect from the ABV. Very low carbonation.

O: Great first-impression beer, very yummy off the bat. My complaint is just that even an 8oz pour was a slog to get through. By halfway through, my tastebuds were already blown and not enjoying the beer nearly as much. I've got a couple 750ml bottles in the cellar and it's going to be a challenge to find an opportunity to open them, as I feel like more than 4 or 5 oz per person is wasted.

kscaldef, May 24, 2011
Photo of Overlord
4.6/5  rDev +10.8%

By far the best of these anniversary variations. By far.

Pours a slightly dusky reddish deep brown. Smells like ... plums, some lighter fruits (apples ... maybe some pear cores) and some toffee with a slight hint of booze.

Taste is really complex. There's a lighter fruit note dancing around ... alcohol soaked apples come to mind ... along with a darker, plum slightly rum-mish background with the typical deep malt/caramel/drizzled sugar booze flavoring. Hints, just hints, of deep earth-y/wood-sy aging.

Really, really good. I was shocked by both the complexity and the depth of the flavor profile. Nicely chewy, and well carbonated with a quarter to half inch tight off-white foam head.

Overlord, May 20, 2011
Photo of Mebuzzard
4.59/5  rDev +10.6%

This is a great beer. I don't think it belongs in the "old ale" category, but what the hell do i know. It reminds me of Westy 8

Pours a dark amber, brown, somewhat murky and rich. Not a huge head on it at all. A soft white collar of foam settles as it drinks.

Aroma is strong baked caramel and orchard fruits, hints of alcohol and vanilla. Somewhat bready underneath.

Tastes fantastic. Age on this thing will calm it down a bit on the abv, but really it isn't all that noticeable. The caramel provides a sweet base and the orchard fruits--apples mostly--seem almost like cider; fermented and 'over-ripe'. This provides a nice, rich flavor that hides the alcohol quite well. Slight hint of sour cherries on the end, and the abv does kick in as well as it finishes.

darn good

Mebuzzard, May 20, 2011
Photo of Gobzilla
4/5  rDev -3.6%

A: poured a light copper brown in color with light brown highlights and had a finger worth of head leaving a good amount of lacing sticking to the glass.

S: upfront I was able to detect some banana in the aroma with a variety of spices but were not over powering, alongside toffee, caramel, molasses notes and faint oak character.

T: I was right about the banana character cause it was noticeable in the taste as well with toffee, caramel, molasses notes, and a touch of dark fruits.

M;The brew was medium to full in body with a fair amount of carbonation which had a sweet, mild fruity, oaky, slight spice, and sticky finish.

D: It was actually drinking above average for an old ale and had a nice little twist to it as well. Definitely would have again and keep another in the cellar to see how it might develop.

Gobzilla, May 15, 2011
Cuir from The Bruery
92 out of 100 based on 528 ratings.