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Cuir - The Bruery

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

532 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 532
Reviews: 188
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 12.05%
Wants: 75
Gots: 428 | FT: 26
Brewed by:
The Bruery visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  14.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Cuir is our third anniversary ale. It is the same recipe as Papier, but again created using the Solera method. Each year we will continue to blend old barrels of anniversary ale with a new batch of the same beer, adding an additional layer of complexity that will grow over time as we continue to age and blend with each anniversary, creating an older average age to the ale.

(Beer added by: Halcyondays on 05-07-2011)
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Photo of mikesgroove
4.65/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

opaque except for just the smallest amount of reddish brown that peaked through on the sides when you held it up directly to the light, but still this was enormously big looking. Deep mahogany tones

deep caramel smell coming off of this, literally took me by surprise. Nice aroma of oak and alcohol mixing and swirling around with it now, really starting to pick up steam the warmer it got. So complex, with rich earthy tones running rampant through it. Warm oak infused notes of brandy like alcohol running over the tongue, so sweet and sugary. As you roll it around you start to notice there is a little bit of a bitter bite to this one. Way down deep under all of the malt, there was a subtle bitter hoppiness, very grainy and earthy, but it was there, and really pushed through on the finish. Long drawn out finish it was, soo complex, with every sip letting you discover more and more flavors. Deep dark fruit now coming through for me, really started to actually dominate the scene all together. Huge raisin and plum notes giving it that sweet but yet tart dark fruit flavor we all come to love. A spicy touch in the back perhaps, but here comes that little bit of bitterness to wrap it all up. Wow, this was amazing.

mikesgroove, Jul 22, 2011
Photo of womencantsail
3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at the Bruery

A: The pour is sort of a murky copper color with a finger of off-white head.

S: Sweet malts with plenty of caramel, toffee, molasses, and brown sugar. There's a surprisingly dominant oakiness to it and a strange spice note--perhaps all-spice? Hints of booze and dark fruits are also there.

T: Spices which sort of throw me off, but they're quickly covered by vanilla, oak, and booze. Sweet bread, toffee, caramel, and brown sugar make up the bulk of the flavor and there are some mild dark fruit notes.

M: Medium to full in body with a medium level of carbonation.

O: Out of the box, this is the easiest to drink of all the Anniversary ales from the Bruery. Looking forward to the 100% -bal version.

womencantsail, May 07, 2011
Photo of kylehay2004
3.88/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

3 finger offwhite head with some lacing on a clear amber with brown and red hues body. Aroma is very unique; woody, almost like A1-sauce like with smokey and almost soapy aroma. Flavor is very sweet with a subtle hickory/mesquite flavor. Boozy as would be expected for anything barrel aged. Body is medium but syrupy with light to moderate carbonation. This overall is a heavy beer. The sweetness is a little much. Fruitier then I expected for a barrel aged beer of any kind.

kylehay2004, Dec 30, 2011
Photo of Knapp85
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle #5291: poured out as a hazy brown color, there was a really nice tan head on top. Light retention and minimal lacing. The smell actually had quite a bit of bourbon on the nose. There is some sweet malt and fruity notes on the nose. The taste at first was a little harsh, as you drink it the flavors get better. There is a subtle spicy vanilla flavor along with some juniper or pine notes. It's got plenty of sweetness with a healthy amount of booze. The mouthfeel of the beer is smooth, nicely carbonated ever after a few years of age. Overall this beer is pretty good, worth trying if you haven't already.

Knapp85, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
3.25/5  rDev -21.7%

westcoastbeerlvr, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev -3.6%

JAHMUR, Jun 21, 2012
Photo of largadeer
3/5  rDev -27.7%

largadeer, Nov 27, 2011
Photo of TMoney2591
2.98/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a snifter at Poor Phil's.

Finally able to try this one...all it took was a side-trip to Oak Park. Figures. Anyway, it pours a deep cloudy brown topped by a finger of relatively short-lived dirty cream foam, which settles into a steady tonsure for the duration of the drink. The nose comprises figs, raisins, red grapes, mandarin orange syrup, toffee, very light roasted malts, light cocoa, and light maple syrup. The sweetness is undeniable, along with an undercurrent of booze. The taste shows us who's boss, though, with notes of bourbon, maple syrup, mandarin orange syrup, red grapes, red apple skin, figs, light molasses, lemon zest, light black cherry, dark chocolate, light oak, and a finish eerily reminiscent of caramel corn. A decently strong kick of booze strikes throughout. Everything's kinda muddled and insanely sweet, even for a sweet tooth like mine. Honestly, it was kinda hard to drink this all the way down. The body is a solid medium, with a very light moderate carbonation and an oily feel. Overall, as much as I enjoyed Coton, Cuir just didn't do it for me. There' so much sweetness in so many forms, along with so much booze, that my tongue just couldn't quite deal with the onslaught.

TMoney2591, Jul 30, 2011
Photo of SocalKicks
4/5  rDev -3.6%

SocalKicks, Nov 10, 2013
Photo of nickfl
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - pours with one finger of light tan head on top of a clear, deep amber body. The head settles at a moderate pace and leaves decent lace.

S - a spicy aroma of plums, sandalwood, leather, smoke and anise.

T - sweet caramel and brown sugar up front with a distinct, fruity note of plum. Cherry and oak in the middle with some more dark fruit character. The beer finishes with more oak, some vanilla and a smoky cherry note that lingers with a slightly warming alcohol.

M - a thick, syrupy body, moderately high carbonation, and a sweet finish.

D complex and enjoyable, this beer is even bigger than I expected. While it was nice, I couldn't help but think about the statement in the bottle that suggested cellaring the beer for up to 20 years; not only does that seem reasonable now that I've tasted it, but I expect that it could actually improve for 15 years if given the chance.

nickfl, Dec 30, 2011
Photo of drabmuh
4.43/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Beer served in my Bruery tulip, bottle 03479 for what it is worth. Beer is brown and hazy with a big off white head of small bubbles, nice retention, lots of lacing and moderate to high carbonation.

Beer smells sweet, molasses, bready, yeast, brown sugar. Smells good.

Beer is very sweet, lots of booze but tolerable. Tobacco, mild, nice yeast character. Smooth alcohol sweetness, mildly dry finish. Beer is really creamy and flavorful. I am really feeling this beer. Much better than Coton was last year. I really like it.

drabmuh, Jun 08, 2011
Photo of oline73
3.93/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I had this on-tap at Max's.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy dark reddish brown color with a finger of tan head that leaves a ring around the glass.

Smell: Sweet with some spices and smoke coming through. Reminds me a little of a bbq sauce. I'm also picking up some dark fruit.

Taste: Very sweet. Hints of smoke, brown sugar, dark fruit, and some spice. The finish has quite a lot of alcohol in it.

Mouthfeel: Medium to thick body with smooth carbonation. The finish is slick.

Overall: This beer would benefit from some aging in my opinion. I enjoyed it, but I don't know that I could drink more than a few ounces right now. Still a good beer.

oline73, May 27, 2011
Photo of mendvicdog
4/5  rDev -3.6%

mendvicdog, Mar 10, 2013
Photo of mdfb79
4.05/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Had on tap today at Galaxy Hut today in Arlington, VA. Poured into a 10 oz. snifter.

a - Pours a deep reddish brown color with less than an inch of light tan head and light carbonation evident.

s - Smells of dark fruits, cherries, oak, molasses, sweet fruit, plums, toffee, and very light vanilla. Little bit of alcohol but not a ton considering 14.5% ABV. A lot fruitier and sweeter than I was expecting. Little more alcohol came out in the nose as it warmed up.

t - Tastes of dark fruits, alcohol, sweet cherries and fruits, oak, toffee, caramel malts, and roasted malts. More toffee and caramel than the nose, as well as more alcohol. No real vanilla in the taste and plenty of sweet fruit again.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. You can notice some alcohol in the taste but this beer isn't hot like Coton was. Surprisingly easy to drink for 14.5% ABV.

o - Overall I liked this one. It didn't blow me away but it was a ton better than Coton, which I did not really like. It was a lot fruitier and sweeter than I was expecting. I've got two bottles of this and considering the high ABV I'll be interested to see what happens to this one after some time in the cellar.

EDIT: 11/04/13 - Had this one again tonight, about 2.5 years later from my initial review. I've had it once since, and the 100% BBA Cuir a few times since (which is one of my favorite Bruery beers ever), and the alcohol has definitely died down a bit. While it is still not as good as Fruet or Bois, it is better than it was fresh (slightly), and still has a lot of sweet fruit. Bumping the Overall from a 4.00 to a 4.25.

mdfb79, May 25, 2011
Photo of beernads
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

beernads, May 17, 2013
Photo of MarkyMOD
4/5  rDev -3.6%

MarkyMOD, Apr 08, 2013
Photo of kojevergas
3.3/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

750ml brown glass (black glass?) bottle with black wax-ed over branded pry-off pressure cap and classy brown/tan label acquired at a SoCal bottle shop over a year ago and served into a Verdugo Bar stem-tulip in me parents' gaff in high altitude Castle Rock, Colorado. The wax took some time to remove given its thickness. Reviewed live. Expectations are low; I hated Fruet and haven't been big on the other beers in this series that I've tried. Reviewed as an old ale. Bottle #01082. 14.5% ABV confirmed per the label.

Served cold - straight from the fridge - and allowed to come to room temperature over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

Yields a carbonation hiss upon opening.

A: No bubble show forms as it's poured.

Pours a 1.5 finger wide head of khaki colour. Nice creaminess and thickness. Head retention is pretty good for the high ABV - about 5-6 minutes - pretty impressive. Uneven lacing clings to the sides of the glass as the head recedes. Head has a nice even consistency, but could definitely be softer.

Body colour is a dull nontransparent vaguely translucent dark brown with amber hues. No yeast particles/sediment is visible.

Overall, it's sort of a mediocre appearance for an old ale. It don't look like much.

Sm: Toffee, caramel, heavy malty sweetness, and nice bourbon notes (vanilla, light oak, wood) are the first things I notice. I also pick up English malts, cream, milky notes, faint leather, tobacco, and burnt sugars. Some dark fruit does land - mainly plum, fig, and maybe raisin/grape.

Any hop character has definitely faded. I don't pick up any yeast character, in spite of its lack of filtration. It's certainly got some booziness, but I wouldn't call it hot. More a pleasant warmth - at least in the aroma.

It's an imposing, powerful aroma of mild strength. I'm a bit cautious going in given the alcohol and my experience with other beers in this series.

T: The bourbon notes are by far the highlight for me; I get some nice vanilla, reticent oak, and some intangible barrel notes that are enjoyable.

Sadly, the base beer isn't quite up to par. It's a loosely cohesive mess of caramel, toffee, cream, milky notes, biscuit malt, brown malts, English malts, bread crust, faint dark fruit (plum and fig), faint tobacco, and buried leather. A kiss of fruitcake. Sure, there's more going on here than in your typical brew, but it isn't well balanced, and there's certainly little subtlety. The tobacco and leather lend it some nuance. I wouldn't call it intricate. It isn't particularly well layered. Above average depth of flavour. Average duration and intensity of flavour.

Any hop character is long gone. I also don't find any yeasty notes.

While I'm not sure I'd out and say I like it, I do think it's the most approachable of the anniversary series I've had so far. the sweetness isn't too out of control, but it is sugary as hell. I can almost feel my teeth rotting just drinking it.

Mf: Has some nice albeit sparse creaminess. Well-carbonated. It isn't as full-bodied as its anniversary brethren, nor is it quite as thick. Smooth and wet. Sticky, almost syrupy. It does have some boozy warmth which limits the drinkability.

Not at all stale, chewy, oily, gushed, harsh, or astringent.

Overall, the texture suits the taste pretty well, but doesn't feel custom-tailored specifically to it.

Dr: Absolutely a sipper, but I'm actually not dreading killing this bottle like I thought I might. This is definitely the best Bruery anniversary beer I've tried so far, and renews my faith a bit in the series overall. That said, it's still far from world-class and I remain dumbfounded by its high ratings. Far from a stellar old ale; honestly, I prefer North Coast's Old Stock Ale. I'd never buy this again at its unreasonable price point and I wouldn't recommend it to friends, but it's a nice little old ale from The Bruery and will certainly get you drunk. I recommend splitting with friends.

A powerful old ale that will get you knackered but won't knock your socks off. The bourbon barrel notes offer infinitely more likable character than the base beer, begging the question - why use this base at all?

It does improve as it comes to temperature, and drinks as well as I can imagine from a tulip.

B-

kojevergas, Dec 31, 2013
Photo of Halcyondays
4.15/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at The Bruery,

A: Pours brown with a soft white head, good retention, nice lace.

S: Lots of malt with a hint of oxidation, sweet caramel.

T: Dominated by sweet toffee and caramel with some good barrel notes. Really no ethanol flavours, much more like the original Papier fresh.

M: Full-bodied with an easy soft carbonation on the palate, very smooth.

O: Much more of a delight fresh than Coton which was an alcohol bomb. Good structure and well integrated flavours. Drinks well know, but can certainly age.

Halcyondays, May 07, 2011
Photo of GClarkage
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

GClarkage, Jul 08, 2014
Photo of imperialking
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

imperialking, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of drewone
4/5  rDev -3.6%

drewone, Jan 03, 2012
Photo of yourefragile
4/5  rDev -3.6%

yourefragile, Feb 04, 2014
Photo of orangesol
4/5  rDev -3.6%

orangesol, Feb 07, 2013
Photo of weeare138
4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to warriorsoul...
Appears a chestnut toned amber with a small beige head that quickly fades into a thin collar. Spotty bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of black grapes, vanilla, toffee, caramel, and bitter citrus.
Taste is sweet of beet sugar, prune juice, raisins, and brown sugar.
Mouthfeel is full bodied, viscous, hot, and slick in the finish.

weeare138, Dec 23, 2011
Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.45/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Purchased from A&W Wine Merchants in Redwood City, CA. Brought back to Sydney and shared with @LaitueGonflable.

Pours a reddish, burnt ochre colour, quite cloudy and opaque. Head forms as an incredibly fine but incredibly voluminous majestic crown of yellowish off-white. Minimal lacing, but the body is exceptionally thick and silky. Really, it looks quite amazing, especially for a beer of this ABV.

Smell is deep, and boozy, and to be honest, not much else. There are hints of the oak, but it's hidden behind the almost vaporous boozy headiness coming off it. Some mild, slightly funky fruitiness, and a dusty or polleny character on the back. It's good, but it's unapologetically coarse and large.

Taste is also in that vein, with a big boozy astringency throughout almost the entire palate from start to finish, almost burning the throat as it goes down. There's fragrant sweetness all over it, but in some senses it's missing all the sweetness it needs, instead, you get the medicinal booziness with no substance. I can't help but feel that it's pointlessly large, and without real merit.

Feel is tight and silky, but pummelled with that pointless alcohol astringency on the back.

Overall...? I mean, it's an impressive beer. There's no getting away from its raw power. But it's also stupid. It's a beer that shouldn't really exist. You need something to warrant this high an alcohol content. And this just doesn't have it.

lacqueredmouse, May 05, 2012
Cuir from The Bruery
92 out of 100 based on 532 ratings.