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Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale) - Bootlegger's Brewery

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Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale)Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale)

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BA SCORE
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very good

115 Reviews
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Reviews: 115
Hads: 292
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 11.11%
Wants: 22
Gots: 32 | FT: 0
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Bootlegger's Brewery visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Stout |  6.70% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: DoubleJ on 04-12-2009

Stout brewed with coffee and chipotle peppers.
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Photo of TBonez477
3.68/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Pours nearly black, tall brown head which dissipates almost instantly indicating quite a bit of carbonation.

S: Smells of bittersweet cocoa, a hint of roasted aroma and earth.

T: Flavor starts with big roasted coffee, semi-sweet chocolate and finishes with warming spicy heat. If the bottle didn't read 'chipotle' you wouldn't guess that to be the pepper used. The heat is the only flavor indicator that peppers are present.

M: A little thin on the feel and more carbonation than the style typically calls for.

O: A good pepper stout, not integrated the best but actually improves as it warms. (601 characters)

Photo of avwrite
4.1/5  rDev +8.5%

I was expecting another gimmicky kind of beer where the gimmick advertised can't be discerned. I was wrong. Chipotle flavor is noticeable and adds a nice zing to an already decent stout. I had low expectations, but I was nicely surprised. (241 characters)

Photo of SensorySupernova
4.5/5  rDev +19%

Appearance: Black with an off-white head.

Smell: Mainly coffee.

Taste: Very nice carmel malt flavor with coffee still very upfront giving way to chocolate. The chipotle peppers in here are not obvious, just a mild lingering smokey heat. I am glad they are not too overbearing.

Mouthfeel: Well carbonated and thick milky mouthfeel, without leaving any residual feel. Very good. Alcohol is not obvious.

Overall: I really liked this stout. The coffee, malt, and chocolate are balanced well together, the mouthfeel is very good, and the subdued peppers give it a unique taste without being too much. (599 characters)

Photo of Catracho5
4.19/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Serving Type: 22 ounce bomber poured into a pint glass.

Appearance: Looks great, black, nice tan head with lots of tiny bubbles, head dissipates pretty quickly, nice carbonation.

Smell: A lot of roast from the coffee, smoky aromas from the chipotle, I'm getting more of smoky aroma than anything else.

Taste: Smoky flavor up front, getting the coffee in the middle with some bitterness, spicy chipotle aroma on the back end leading into some spice, a mild spice, alcohol is present at 6.7% but not overwhelming.

Mouthfeel: Lost of carbonation, smooth, dry mouthfeel at the end.

Overall: Great beer, as for spiced beers this and Stone Smoked Porter with Chipotle are my two favorites. (690 characters)

Photo of stephens101
4.2/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Dark brown w crimson hues. Tan head pops and fizzles slowly to a thick quilting.

Smells of molasses, nuts, coffee grinds, syrup and black licorice.

Tastes of maple syrup, cacao beans, caramel and a nice touch of hops. A hint of wood perhaps? Complex and concerted for the most part.

Viscous and medium with a palpable alcohol heat.

This beer proves you don't have to go big to be plain good and tasty. (410 characters)

Photo of DeanMoriarty
3.76/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Smell is light all around but what comes through is plum, sweet cigar, chocolate, coffee, toasted grain with a slight astringent finish. Flavor is dark chocolate, cherry, tobacco, strong roasted coffee, slightly sweet, no bitterness, mild chili on the back end - heat dissipates instantly. Finish is dry, light effervescence, on the lighter side of medium bodied - wish the chili lingered a bit longer, but still a good beer. (425 characters)

Photo of hopsputin
3.95/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: dark black with some muddy brown at the bottom

A: roasted malts, chipotle pepper, dark chocolate, toasted toffee

T: sweet malts and milk chocolate right away. Ten hit with the spice. It's not that spicy but you can feel it in the mouth. Fades to toffee and powdered dark chocolate

M: medium with some syrup-like qualities

O: this is nice because the spice is present, but not overwhelming to the point where the stout flavors are dominated. Would have like a little more roasted qualities, but overall it's better than average. (535 characters)

Photo of Sark
3.67/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

22oz bomber

Appearance- healthy finger of caramel head that's slightly pebbled but mostly velvet. Almost completely black with only a dark mahogany showing up to the light

Smell- coffee steals the show with sweet maltiness rounding it out, the chipotle is only a slight hint after the two

Taste- very mild sweetness to start, nice roasty toasty notes of espresso and dark grains that envelop the mid mouth, peppers come to play on the way down and linger with a satisfying mild spice finish

Mouthfeel- medium/full bodied but a little watery that doesn't quite balance with the flavor profile of the ingredients, I could use something a bit more to chew on

Overall- A good winter warmer, having played around with my own chile brews I know the temptation to just go wild with the spice, but this beer keeps it on the quiet and lets the coffee and peppers take turns with the palate. The mouthfeel left me a bit unimpressed, but I'd gladly have another. (956 characters)

Photo of homebrew311
3.75/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Extra'd by daveydapoolman- thanks!! Pours a deep opaque brownish black. Pour yields minimal head with no lacing or retention to speak of. The nose starts with medium roast coffee followed by a hint of smoke, and some green pepper. Notes of chocolate and vanilla are sprinkled in, but coffee and pepper dominate the nose. The taste starts with mild acidity, presumably from the coffee, this develops into notes of chocolate and deep notes of fresh brewed coffee paired with smoke. The chipotles don't bring much heat to the table, but some definite smoke and vegetal notes. The finish dry and revisits the coffee along with roasted barley. Mouthfeel is medium to light with moderate carbonation. Overall, this is a nice brew that could be so much better. I think the brewers went a little shy with the chipotles as heat never really presents itself on the palate. (862 characters)

Photo of anon
4.63/5  rDev +22.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.75

Poured pretty much pitch black, with a nice big coffee-colored head. Smell is pretty much roasted coffee up front with a bit of spice thrown in there.

I'll admit I was a little hesitant to try this for a while for I was in doubt of how this would taste, but I was pleasantly surprised. Lots of coffee up front with a nice spicy kick from the chipotle in the tail end. Nice and smooth, creamy. Goes down easy. Will definitely be having one of these again. (456 characters)

Photo of barleywinefiend
4.43/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured jet black with a moderate coffee colored head. Two fingers to be exact with lots of bubbles and a few curtains of lacing after the head resedes.

S: The nose says chocolate covered chipotles to me. The coffee was present for sure but the nice roastiness, peppers and cocoa took precedence

T: Initial coffee gets ya but its pretty tame. The chipotles are ushered in with some creamy milk chocolate. Oh so nice. Harmonious the flavors are. No one flavor seems to dominate here. I am digging this. A nice roasted malt base for the flavors to ride on. The finish has a little hit, a nice pepper zing and coffee beans.

M:: Medium-full bodied, well carbonated, loads of flavor, a bit sweet with a light decadence to it

O: More than I was expecting here. My first beer from Bootleggers was very nice. I see the ratings are bit lower than mine. I think some people forget this is NOT a Imperial Stout as others BA reviews have eluded to " I see where this one is going but just misses the mark on the flavors of a big stout." Its a single stout. It hits all of the BJCP criteria and its very flavorful and full for the style. Well done. (1,142 characters)

Photo of FlyingBull
3.6/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I had this beer from a 22 oz bomber. My wife picked it up cause she wanted the bottle cap for her bottle cap board. ...Go figure.

The beer poured a deep dark brown with a tan head that lasted though out the drink. There was considerable lacing down the sides of the glass. Carbonation looked good.

The aroma carried strong dark malts - roast malts that were fresh ground coffee like, some caramel sweetness, and some spice.

The initial flavor was of dark roasted malts, followed by some caramel sweetness that was balanced by pleasant hop bitterness and spicy smoky chipotle pepper flavor. There was a lingering but pleasant bitterness backed up by a spicy pepper flavor that was actually quite nice.

The beer was medium heavy in body with a pleasant mouth feel, a little higher than average carbonation for this style, but easy to sip.

Overall, I liked this beer. I really don't like too many coffee stouts or chipotle stouts (or chipotle/chili pepper any beer...), but I enjoyed this one. I think the roast malts, hops, coffee, and chipotle was all balanced very nicely. I think this beer would be good with a big bowl of chili on a cool fall night watching football...or with a big bowl of VENISON chili in deer camp. I would get this beer again. (1,255 characters)

Photo of dgilks
3.66/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Translucent brown colour with a foamy tan head. Good head retention.

Slightly stale coffee aroma. Nice chocolate and roast notes. Pretty good.

Moderately toasty with touches of chocolate. Good coffee hit. Mild spicy and smoke from chipotle. Good.

Medium body with moderate carbonation.

A solid beer. Nice flavour and good to see it on tap in an airline lounge. (368 characters)

Photo of sleuthdog
3.34/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Poured into GI pint

Pour: Almost black with an enormous 4 finger tan head. Head receded quickly to a slight film on surface.

Smell: Coffee, chocolate, and some pine. Also picking up some roast and char. Aroma is very tame and pretty uneventful.

Taste: Mild coffee meets some bittersweet chocolate. Again like the nose, roasted and char and not much heat from the peppers. This one seems to be lacking the typical stout flavors that I desire. I see where this one is going but just misses the mark on the flavors of a big stout. Well as I continue to sip this I sense the build up of the pepper heat. Did not get it initially but getting through the glass the heat is definitely there and enjoyable.

Mouthfeel: Must say this is thin for a stout with a higher than average carbonation for this style. The thinness of this makes it easy to drink.

Overall: Lacked on most aspects to me and ends up just being ok to me. (920 characters)

Photo of Axnjxn
4.14/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz bomber poured into a DFH pint glass. no bottling date

A- Pours a pitch black color with a moderate coffee-off white head.

S- smell is rich with a roasted coffee /frappuccino aroma. no spiciness detected

T - taste is a bit less flavorful than i would have liked. very slight chili pepper taste with a moderate amount of coffee overtones. there is no lingering heat to this one at all. however, its very enjoyable, just not a whallop of flavor.

Feel - light/medium bodied with medium carbonation. feel is not at all how it looks. extremely easy to gulp a pint of this one down.

overall not really what i was expecting but i was surprised by how much i enjoyed this one. it only has just a trace amount of heat to it, but it is very enjoyable. i was very much enjoying the coffee flavor of this stout. definitely recommend to anyone who enjoys coffee flavored ales. (875 characters)

Photo of Beerandraiderfan
3.36/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Mostly dark brown color, a little lighter than usual for craft stouts these days, but not ugly in any sense. Not much head, a thin brown (lighter) ring of head about 3/8" thick, doesn't retain well, not much for lacing. I guess that's the chipotle working.

Aroma of chocolate and coffee, I didn't pick up on the chipotle in the aroma, but the aroma was still inviting for what it was. Fractional smoke element to it.

Taste, alright, there's a little bit of chipotle. Bitter astringency, but not in a bad way. Mouthfeel was a little thin. Starting to have the phrase 'run of the mill' run through my head.

Ashy at times. Didn't really perceive any heat of flavor for the most part of my drinking experience related to the peppers. Yes, it does grow as the beer warms, but I think Stone has a cheaper alternative (smoked porter w/ chipotle) that is easier to find and better quality. Good enough, but won't be stocking up on these. (933 characters)

Photo of oline73
3.72/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from the bottle into a snifter.

Pours a black color with a half finger of off white head. There is just a touch of heat in this beer until the finish when the peppers ramp up. I'm getting some coffee, but it's more in the background than the peppers. Just enough sweetness from the roasted malt. (303 characters)

Photo of kojevergas
3.3/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

6.7% ABV confirmed. Acquired locally. I don't recall the price. 650ml brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are fairly high; the idea of a chipotle coffee stout sounds rather good. I've never been huge on Bootlegger's, but I'm hoping this changes my mind.

Served straight from the fridge and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

Not paired with food.

A: Pours a one finger khaki-light tan head of fair cream, decent thickness, and good retention for the relatively high ABV. No lacing. Body colour is a solid nontransparent opaque black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Typical for the style but nevertheless appealing.

Sm: Chili powder, dark malts, light cream, chocolate malt, and caramel. A rather mild strength aroma. No yeast character is detectable. No alcohol is detectable.

T: Light chilis - not very spicy, dark malts, light chocolate malt, and a bit of cold pressed coffee. Lacks roast, to its detriment. The chili presence is ideal for the balance; there's not too much spiciness and it really works here. Not mind blowingly complex, but it's solid. Little subtlety, though the chili is nicely restrained (as abovementioned). I do quite like it. Needs more roast and coffee.

Mf: Smooth and wet in classic porter fashion. Good carbonation and palate presence. Perhaps a bit too thick for its simple flavour profile. Suits the flavours well. Some nice cream.

Dr: Drinkable and enjoyable - especially considering the relatively high ABV. I'd try this on draught, but otherwise it's not worth trifling with again. A nice little porter from Bootlegger's, but it's far from amazing. I wouldn't recommend it to friends, but it's worth trying.

B- (1,903 characters)

Photo of ElSid
3.41/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

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Bottle Date: None

A: That pitch black stout look is going on with a faint head of khaki foam which fades to a bed of bubbles.

S: The coffee and roasted, toasted malt is there. No pepper bite is detectable. Overall the nose is smooth with some cocoa and espresso but was hoping for some spice also.

T: The coffee is there but somewhat muted. Good roasted malt presence along with caramel and brown sugar sweetness. Minimal chipotle burn. There is a nice bitterness which contrasts the dark sweetness.

M: Smooth and ample with good carbonation. Trace lacing on the glass.

O: As someone who loves spice and coffee this beer ultimately let me down with only moderate coffee notes and non-existent spice presence. (743 characters)

Photo of kawilliams81
3.65/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a Alesmith Horny Devil snifter.

A- pours near black with a ridiculous 4" light brown head, watch out its a gusher. 2" head remains in the glass.

S- coffee, chocolate and some pine.

T- big coffee and chocolate notes, slight dark fruits, some pine bitterness and you notice the peppers that gives a slight burn at the finish.

M- Medium body and high carbonation. Crazy high carbonation.

O- if it wasn't for the crazy high carbonation this would be a very good beer. Nice amount of coffee and chocolate with some pepper burn. (559 characters)

Photo of tlazaroff
3.4/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Coffee is prevalent on the nose, more than whatever chipotle is in here. Chocolate is subtle, but brings a nice sweetness to the nose to balance the roast of the coffee.

Pitch black in color with a light mocha head which is humungous! It looks over-carbonated just by the head. I poured so slow and it still generated a 4-finger head. Unfortunately, lacing is non-existent.

First thing I noticed wasn't the taste, but how this bear foamed up right when it hit my tongue.. it's HIGHLY carbonated. The medium-full body brings a bunch of roasted coffee beans right upfront and through the mid-palate. The beer finishes with the slightest heat and then more coffee, only to be followed by by a bit of an itch in my throat form the peppers again. The flavor of this beer is coffee-forward and comes in waves. Quite interesting, but the burps come in waves afterward too. (867 characters)

Photo of zac16125
3.25/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Black Pheonix Chipotle Coffee Stout
22oz bottle poured into a mug
no born on date

Thanks to Redbeeron for sending this one over as an extra.

A: Pours a very dark brown, almost black, with a massive 3 plus fingers of light mocha colored head, which is light and bubbly and takes a long time to dissipate down.  1/2 a finger remains throughout most of the drink, but leaves no appreciable lacing.  

S: Heavy spicy pepper notes, mild coffee and roasted malt characters.  Nice aroma here, but rather mild and pretty one dimensional.

T: Coffee, roasted malts.  heavy cream. Initially I dont taste much spice on the palate, but it burns my lips so I know its there.  But as I continue to  drink, the peppery heat builds significantly.  I like that component but the base flavors, I guess you can call it that, are just significantly lacking.  Not enough strength of stout flavors to go along with the chipotle heat.  

M/D:  Really thin mouthfeel, and a carbonation that seems both too high, and too low at the same time (if that makes sense, which Im sure it doesn't).  It comes off like soda from a soda gun.   That with the peppery spice make this indigestion in a bottle.  Drinkability is low and mouthfeel is poor.  

O:  Overall, this is one I would pass on in the future.  I like how big the chipotle heat is, but the stout flavors and characteristics just arent there.  I appreciate what they were trying to do, but its sure as hell no Mexican Cake.   (1,478 characters)

Photo of FosterJM
3.7/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

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App- More of a crimson looking brew in the glass with a bit of darker browns mixed in. I would say some red and yellows make the mix but not much. A small 1/2 finger head was there and gone and didnt leave any cling.

Smell- I liked the aromatics but it didnt wow me. This one is more of a small coffee note with with a bit of water. Not a lot of the chipotle comes through and thats okay. A more smokey and roast malt aroma with a bit of BBQ.

Taste- I am not normally one for smokey or Rauchbier like beers, but this was good with the balance of the chipotle and the coffee. It was like when watching a cooking show and seeing a coffee rub on a good piece of meat. The smokey malts paired well with the heat of the peppers and didnt leave it too hot or too spicy really.

Mouth- A lighter medium body and a lighter carbonation. Just thin all around. The malts are quite tame and a bit of the chipotle comes through and tingles the tastebuds on the residual flavors of this one.

Drink- I enjoyed it. I am just not a fan like I said of the smoky hot thing. I like the addition of the coffee on this one and it was a good idea to keep the ABV low to make everything a bit more mellow and not compete against the booze. (1,287 characters)

Photo of harrymel
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottled: unk
Pours black, and has a rim of light tan foam and quite a bit of clarity. Smells of herbal hops, some some, some soily dust, bits of coffee and some cardboard. Taste is empty, watered down stout with toasted and roated malts, some coffee, a little too much smoke flavor, some hints of coconut and weedy. Mouth is empty with alittle too hi carb and an off dry finish. Okay beer. My wife really dug it so she drank most of the bottle. (444 characters)

Photo of Blackwolf
4.08/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I loves me muh stouts and porters!

A- Poured into a pint glass. Dark fudgy color and a milk chocolate head about a fingers width. The head dissipated almost too rapidly and the lacing was slippery to smooth. I enjoy looking at a deep rich ale in ambient lighting :)

S- A medium scent is evident with malts, coffee. As much as I hyped this ale up I was expecting something deeper =/

T- Smokey Roasted Malt, A piquant coffee/dark chocolate taste settles on the palate briefly, but this bottoms out quickly with the bold flavor. HOWEVER... The chipotle finishes quite well from the start to finish... but especially on the finish! I have had my share of chipotle beers and this one takes the cake. The nice subtle spice that tickles and plays with your tongue in the end definitely puts a smile on your face! Kudos bootleggers for pulling off what many chipotle beers can not!

MF- Scrumptious semi-thick stout, kinda syrupy and it sticks to your mouth for a bit. It is a deep beer with medium carbonation. This will go great with bbq or a greasy mexican fusion breakfast plate :P

O- I like my stouts and porters very much, this one is a very filling and bold stout. I don't know about breaking the wallet for one, but if you can afford it go for it! Yum yum YUM! (1,265 characters)

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Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale) from Bootlegger's Brewery
85 out of 100 based on 115 ratings.