Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale) - Bootlegger's Brewery

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Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale)Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale)

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BA SCORE
85
very good

115 Reviews
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Reviews: 115
Hads: 290
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 11.11%
Wants: 22
Gots: 32 | FT: 0
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California, United States

Style | ABV
American Stout |  6.70% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: DoubleJ on 04-12-2009

Stout brewed with coffee and chipotle peppers.
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Reviews: 115 | Hads: 290
Photo of barleywinefiend
4.43/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured jet black with a moderate coffee colored head. Two fingers to be exact with lots of bubbles and a few curtains of lacing after the head resedes.

S: The nose says chocolate covered chipotles to me. The coffee was present for sure but the nice roastiness, peppers and cocoa took precedence

T: Initial coffee gets ya but its pretty tame. The chipotles are ushered in with some creamy milk chocolate. Oh so nice. Harmonious the flavors are. No one flavor seems to dominate here. I am digging this. A nice roasted malt base for the flavors to ride on. The finish has a little hit, a nice pepper zing and coffee beans.

M:: Medium-full bodied, well carbonated, loads of flavor, a bit sweet with a light decadence to it

O: More than I was expecting here. My first beer from Bootleggers was very nice. I see the ratings are bit lower than mine. I think some people forget this is NOT a Imperial Stout as others BA reviews have eluded to " I see where this one is going but just misses the mark on the flavors of a big stout." Its a single stout. It hits all of the BJCP criteria and its very flavorful and full for the style. Well done. (1,142 characters)

Photo of FlyingBull
3.6/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I had this beer from a 22 oz bomber. My wife picked it up cause she wanted the bottle cap for her bottle cap board. ...Go figure.

The beer poured a deep dark brown with a tan head that lasted though out the drink. There was considerable lacing down the sides of the glass. Carbonation looked good.

The aroma carried strong dark malts - roast malts that were fresh ground coffee like, some caramel sweetness, and some spice.

The initial flavor was of dark roasted malts, followed by some caramel sweetness that was balanced by pleasant hop bitterness and spicy smoky chipotle pepper flavor. There was a lingering but pleasant bitterness backed up by a spicy pepper flavor that was actually quite nice.

The beer was medium heavy in body with a pleasant mouth feel, a little higher than average carbonation for this style, but easy to sip.

Overall, I liked this beer. I really don't like too many coffee stouts or chipotle stouts (or chipotle/chili pepper any beer...), but I enjoyed this one. I think the roast malts, hops, coffee, and chipotle was all balanced very nicely. I think this beer would be good with a big bowl of chili on a cool fall night watching football...or with a big bowl of VENISON chili in deer camp. I would get this beer again. (1,255 characters)

Photo of dgilks
3.66/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Translucent brown colour with a foamy tan head. Good head retention.

Slightly stale coffee aroma. Nice chocolate and roast notes. Pretty good.

Moderately toasty with touches of chocolate. Good coffee hit. Mild spicy and smoke from chipotle. Good.

Medium body with moderate carbonation.

A solid beer. Nice flavour and good to see it on tap in an airline lounge. (368 characters)

Photo of sleuthdog
3.34/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Poured into GI pint

Pour: Almost black with an enormous 4 finger tan head. Head receded quickly to a slight film on surface.

Smell: Coffee, chocolate, and some pine. Also picking up some roast and char. Aroma is very tame and pretty uneventful.

Taste: Mild coffee meets some bittersweet chocolate. Again like the nose, roasted and char and not much heat from the peppers. This one seems to be lacking the typical stout flavors that I desire. I see where this one is going but just misses the mark on the flavors of a big stout. Well as I continue to sip this I sense the build up of the pepper heat. Did not get it initially but getting through the glass the heat is definitely there and enjoyable.

Mouthfeel: Must say this is thin for a stout with a higher than average carbonation for this style. The thinness of this makes it easy to drink.

Overall: Lacked on most aspects to me and ends up just being ok to me. (920 characters)

Photo of Axnjxn
4.14/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz bomber poured into a DFH pint glass. no bottling date

A- Pours a pitch black color with a moderate coffee-off white head.

S- smell is rich with a roasted coffee /frappuccino aroma. no spiciness detected

T - taste is a bit less flavorful than i would have liked. very slight chili pepper taste with a moderate amount of coffee overtones. there is no lingering heat to this one at all. however, its very enjoyable, just not a whallop of flavor.

Feel - light/medium bodied with medium carbonation. feel is not at all how it looks. extremely easy to gulp a pint of this one down.

overall not really what i was expecting but i was surprised by how much i enjoyed this one. it only has just a trace amount of heat to it, but it is very enjoyable. i was very much enjoying the coffee flavor of this stout. definitely recommend to anyone who enjoys coffee flavored ales. (875 characters)

Photo of Beerandraiderfan
3.36/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Mostly dark brown color, a little lighter than usual for craft stouts these days, but not ugly in any sense. Not much head, a thin brown (lighter) ring of head about 3/8" thick, doesn't retain well, not much for lacing. I guess that's the chipotle working.

Aroma of chocolate and coffee, I didn't pick up on the chipotle in the aroma, but the aroma was still inviting for what it was. Fractional smoke element to it.

Taste, alright, there's a little bit of chipotle. Bitter astringency, but not in a bad way. Mouthfeel was a little thin. Starting to have the phrase 'run of the mill' run through my head.

Ashy at times. Didn't really perceive any heat of flavor for the most part of my drinking experience related to the peppers. Yes, it does grow as the beer warms, but I think Stone has a cheaper alternative (smoked porter w/ chipotle) that is easier to find and better quality. Good enough, but won't be stocking up on these. (933 characters)

Photo of oline73
3.72/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from the bottle into a snifter.

Pours a black color with a half finger of off white head. There is just a touch of heat in this beer until the finish when the peppers ramp up. I'm getting some coffee, but it's more in the background than the peppers. Just enough sweetness from the roasted malt. (303 characters)

Photo of kojevergas
3.3/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

6.7% ABV confirmed. Acquired locally. I don't recall the price. 650ml brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are fairly high; the idea of a chipotle coffee stout sounds rather good. I've never been huge on Bootlegger's, but I'm hoping this changes my mind.

Served straight from the fridge and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

Not paired with food.

A: Pours a one finger khaki-light tan head of fair cream, decent thickness, and good retention for the relatively high ABV. No lacing. Body colour is a solid nontransparent opaque black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Typical for the style but nevertheless appealing.

Sm: Chili powder, dark malts, light cream, chocolate malt, and caramel. A rather mild strength aroma. No yeast character is detectable. No alcohol is detectable.

T: Light chilis - not very spicy, dark malts, light chocolate malt, and a bit of cold pressed coffee. Lacks roast, to its detriment. The chili presence is ideal for the balance; there's not too much spiciness and it really works here. Not mind blowingly complex, but it's solid. Little subtlety, though the chili is nicely restrained (as abovementioned). I do quite like it. Needs more roast and coffee.

Mf: Smooth and wet in classic porter fashion. Good carbonation and palate presence. Perhaps a bit too thick for its simple flavour profile. Suits the flavours well. Some nice cream.

Dr: Drinkable and enjoyable - especially considering the relatively high ABV. I'd try this on draught, but otherwise it's not worth trifling with again. A nice little porter from Bootlegger's, but it's far from amazing. I wouldn't recommend it to friends, but it's worth trying.

B- (1,903 characters)

Photo of ElSid
3.41/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

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Bottle Date: None

A: That pitch black stout look is going on with a faint head of khaki foam which fades to a bed of bubbles.

S: The coffee and roasted, toasted malt is there. No pepper bite is detectable. Overall the nose is smooth with some cocoa and espresso but was hoping for some spice also.

T: The coffee is there but somewhat muted. Good roasted malt presence along with caramel and brown sugar sweetness. Minimal chipotle burn. There is a nice bitterness which contrasts the dark sweetness.

M: Smooth and ample with good carbonation. Trace lacing on the glass.

O: As someone who loves spice and coffee this beer ultimately let me down with only moderate coffee notes and non-existent spice presence. (743 characters)

Photo of kawilliams81
3.65/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a Alesmith Horny Devil snifter.

A- pours near black with a ridiculous 4" light brown head, watch out its a gusher. 2" head remains in the glass.

S- coffee, chocolate and some pine.

T- big coffee and chocolate notes, slight dark fruits, some pine bitterness and you notice the peppers that gives a slight burn at the finish.

M- Medium body and high carbonation. Crazy high carbonation.

O- if it wasn't for the crazy high carbonation this would be a very good beer. Nice amount of coffee and chocolate with some pepper burn. (559 characters)

Photo of tlazaroff
3.4/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Coffee is prevalent on the nose, more than whatever chipotle is in here. Chocolate is subtle, but brings a nice sweetness to the nose to balance the roast of the coffee.

Pitch black in color with a light mocha head which is humungous! It looks over-carbonated just by the head. I poured so slow and it still generated a 4-finger head. Unfortunately, lacing is non-existent.

First thing I noticed wasn't the taste, but how this bear foamed up right when it hit my tongue.. it's HIGHLY carbonated. The medium-full body brings a bunch of roasted coffee beans right upfront and through the mid-palate. The beer finishes with the slightest heat and then more coffee, only to be followed by by a bit of an itch in my throat form the peppers again. The flavor of this beer is coffee-forward and comes in waves. Quite interesting, but the burps come in waves afterward too. (867 characters)

Photo of zac16125
3.25/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Black Pheonix Chipotle Coffee Stout
22oz bottle poured into a mug
no born on date

Thanks to Redbeeron for sending this one over as an extra.

A: Pours a very dark brown, almost black, with a massive 3 plus fingers of light mocha colored head, which is light and bubbly and takes a long time to dissipate down.  1/2 a finger remains throughout most of the drink, but leaves no appreciable lacing.  

S: Heavy spicy pepper notes, mild coffee and roasted malt characters.  Nice aroma here, but rather mild and pretty one dimensional.

T: Coffee, roasted malts.  heavy cream. Initially I dont taste much spice on the palate, but it burns my lips so I know its there.  But as I continue to  drink, the peppery heat builds significantly.  I like that component but the base flavors, I guess you can call it that, are just significantly lacking.  Not enough strength of stout flavors to go along with the chipotle heat.  

M/D:  Really thin mouthfeel, and a carbonation that seems both too high, and too low at the same time (if that makes sense, which Im sure it doesn't).  It comes off like soda from a soda gun.   That with the peppery spice make this indigestion in a bottle.  Drinkability is low and mouthfeel is poor.  

O:  Overall, this is one I would pass on in the future.  I like how big the chipotle heat is, but the stout flavors and characteristics just arent there.  I appreciate what they were trying to do, but its sure as hell no Mexican Cake.   (1,478 characters)

Photo of FosterJM
3.7/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1514th Review on BA
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App- More of a crimson looking brew in the glass with a bit of darker browns mixed in. I would say some red and yellows make the mix but not much. A small 1/2 finger head was there and gone and didnt leave any cling.

Smell- I liked the aromatics but it didnt wow me. This one is more of a small coffee note with with a bit of water. Not a lot of the chipotle comes through and thats okay. A more smokey and roast malt aroma with a bit of BBQ.

Taste- I am not normally one for smokey or Rauchbier like beers, but this was good with the balance of the chipotle and the coffee. It was like when watching a cooking show and seeing a coffee rub on a good piece of meat. The smokey malts paired well with the heat of the peppers and didnt leave it too hot or too spicy really.

Mouth- A lighter medium body and a lighter carbonation. Just thin all around. The malts are quite tame and a bit of the chipotle comes through and tingles the tastebuds on the residual flavors of this one.

Drink- I enjoyed it. I am just not a fan like I said of the smoky hot thing. I like the addition of the coffee on this one and it was a good idea to keep the ABV low to make everything a bit more mellow and not compete against the booze. (1,287 characters)

Photo of harrymel
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottled: unk
Pours black, and has a rim of light tan foam and quite a bit of clarity. Smells of herbal hops, some some, some soily dust, bits of coffee and some cardboard. Taste is empty, watered down stout with toasted and roated malts, some coffee, a little too much smoke flavor, some hints of coconut and weedy. Mouth is empty with alittle too hi carb and an off dry finish. Okay beer. My wife really dug it so she drank most of the bottle. (444 characters)

Photo of Blackwolf
4.08/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I loves me muh stouts and porters!

A- Poured into a pint glass. Dark fudgy color and a milk chocolate head about a fingers width. The head dissipated almost too rapidly and the lacing was slippery to smooth. I enjoy looking at a deep rich ale in ambient lighting :)

S- A medium scent is evident with malts, coffee. As much as I hyped this ale up I was expecting something deeper =/

T- Smokey Roasted Malt, A piquant coffee/dark chocolate taste settles on the palate briefly, but this bottoms out quickly with the bold flavor. HOWEVER... The chipotle finishes quite well from the start to finish... but especially on the finish! I have had my share of chipotle beers and this one takes the cake. The nice subtle spice that tickles and plays with your tongue in the end definitely puts a smile on your face! Kudos bootleggers for pulling off what many chipotle beers can not!

MF- Scrumptious semi-thick stout, kinda syrupy and it sticks to your mouth for a bit. It is a deep beer with medium carbonation. This will go great with bbq or a greasy mexican fusion breakfast plate :P

O- I like my stouts and porters very much, this one is a very filling and bold stout. I don't know about breaking the wallet for one, but if you can afford it go for it! Yum yum YUM! (1,265 characters)

Photo of DoubleJ
4.21/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bootlegger's already makes several variants of its Black Phoenix beer; Spicenator Black Phoenix, Imperial Phoenix, Barrel-Aged Imperial Phoenix. Does a nitro version of Black Phoenix count as well. If it does, let's makes some notes of it:

Once again, that nitro gas leaves a super creamy, long lasting beige head atop a black body. Beautiful, once again. The nose is softer on nitro, but it still delivers the key notes, of spicy coffee, and even some brownie chocolate.

I'll confess, the nitro does soften the flavor. Still, it does it in a good way. The peppers are softer, which allows the stout part of the beer to come out. The dark malt body and the nitro gives the flavor of devil's food cake. It's very smooth and creamy in the mouth, medium bodied, and much easier to drink than the "standard" Black Phoenix.

So there are a few differences between the nitro and non-nitro versions. The nitro version is easier to take, while the non-nitro version fills your mouth with more spicy peppers and coffee. I'm totally taking this ride again. (1,049 characters)

Photo of tempest
3.88/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a bomber while in El Segundo. I opened the bottle after dinner and it makes a fine dessert beer. It's by no means sweet, but there's a medium, thicker body and tasty cocoa notes. I only get the slighted hint of chipotle and heat once the beer warms to cellar temperature, but it's a nice touch. This is definitely not a beer to drink too cold, the subtle flavors are totally lost. I'm not getting any noticeable coffee, but the smooth chocolate liquor taste, balanced by a mild roast will ease your mind and please your palate. Give this a try if you find it. (569 characters)

Photo of ThickNStout
3.62/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle from Whatsarezaf (thanks for the extra man!). No bottling info. Served in a Sweetwater 15 snifter. 

Pours a deep, near-black brown with barely one finger tan head. Next to no lacing. 

Interesting nose with coffee, cocoa and a hint of peppery spice. 

Black coffee taste comes out first. A little bittersweet cocoa follows with a nice pepper bite on the finish. Not much else but not bad. 

Fairly thin feel with mild carbonation. 

No false advertising here- it says chipotle coffee stout on the bottle and that's exactly what it is. Not as big or complex as I prefer my stouts but overall it's not bad at all. No problems finishing the bottle myself in one sitting but not something I'll hunt in the future.  (729 characters)

Photo of DovaliHops
4.07/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark brown color...borderline black. Has a small tan head. Scent is nice and toasty with some roasted malt and chocolate cocoa. Sweet vanilla and some cinnamon as well. Fresh coffee. Not really any chile or chipotle in the aroma. Taste is a little different however. Initially, there is a definite chile pepper flavor. Not heat, but just the flavor. The heat is very subdued and only comes through on the tip of the tongue after quite a few sips of this. Not overwhelming at all, just some tingling heat that lingers on the tip of the tongue and the lips. There are lovely coffee flavors and great cocoa taste. Very well balanced and a great way to introduce someone to what peppers can do to a beer. Mouthfeel is where this beers lacks... it's a little too light (I wish I could try the bourbon barrel aged version). Mild spicy finish. Drinkability is very high. Overall, this beer is an outstanding chile stout. I would definitely buy more of this. (963 characters)

Photo of BilbosNuts
3.61/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to McD0uche for hooking me up with this one.

Poured from a 22oz bottle into a pint glass.

A: Pours a very dark brown that is almost black. A one finger, khaki colored head sits on top which slowly fades to a thin film.

S: The overall aroma is a bit subdued. There is mostly roasted malts with a touch of coffee. I can't seem to find the chipotle at all in the nose.

T: The initial tastes are roasted malts and coffee again. But towards the finish, the chipotle peppers make their appearance. They provide some slight heat that isn't overpowering, just enough to let you know they're there.

M: Medium bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation. There is almost a chewy feel to it. The peppers give off a slight heat that doesn't linger very long.

O: Overall, this was just slightly above average for me. I like the addition of chipotle peppers, just wish they were more present in the aroma. However, their presence in the taste saved this one for me. (966 characters)

Photo of ngeunit1
4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a dark black with a hint of brown mixed in and a finger of frothy khaki colored head atop. The head fades down at a normal pace leaving behind a touch of lace.

S - Aroma is a mix of some roasted and burnt chocolate and coffee with a touch of sweetness and some peppers.

T - Starts off with some roasted and slightly burnt chocolate malts and coffee with a bit of hot pepper in the background. Through the middle some more pepper flavor comes through with some bitter coffee flavor and a bit of earthiness. The finish is a mix of roasted chocolate and coffee with a touch of pepper.

M - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Smooth was a warming, roasted, and dry finish.

D - Very drinkable. Nice stout and the touch of hot chipotle is a nice touch for some depth. (780 characters)

Photo of DM1293
3.65/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Taste: I was taste-testing this, and I had to try this with a fresh bottle to be sure; but the biggest problem I have with this taste is the fact that it doesn't feel...carbonated. Like, even mildly. Its kind of flat.

That said, it still doesn't hold back the flavor of this. Its pretty smooth, with chocolate and coffee up in front with very little of the chipotle (which made me avoid this stout before). Instead its a little smoky flavor, and a little bit of bitter on the finish.

Overall: If you don't mind the light carbonation of it, its still a solid drink. I really wish it had more carbonation though, because I believe it would liven up the flavors. The man who was doing the samples said to get it on tap, and I think it'd help. (741 characters)

Photo of RaulMondesi
3.5/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the Playground in Santa Ana, California. (Shout out to tha homies.)

Raul b hesitant at first. I approached this thing like I wuz a mongoose and it was da cobra. And in tha end, I think we both won.

Crazy beer. Looked good n had a nice coffee smell. I wuz hesitant about the chipotle at first thinkin' it wuz a gimmick; but nah, dawgy, it wuz der.

Smooth beer, very smooth. Initial hits of the coffee flavor, den that lil spicy note crept up on me like all sudden n stuff. Kinda like wen I'm watchin tha Dodgers in my own zone, n my girl all of a sudden asks me for a 20 to get her nails did. She look good with her nails did. (638 characters)

Photo of corby112
4.05/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Draft at the brewery.

Pours a dark chocolate brown color with a half finger beige head that quickly settles into lasting ring. Spotty lacing left behind.

Roasted malt aroma with a strong chocolate character that lingers before being countered by the chili powder.  Hints of roasted coffe bean, dark chocolate, lactic cream and caramel.   These notes blend well with the spicy chili powder.

Chewy body with a good balance of sweet chocolate and roasted malt.  Lots of sweet and bitter dark chocolate along with hints of toffee, coffee and oatmeal.  Toward the end of the palate there is a prominent chili pepper spiciness that lingers well after the finish.  Chocolate and chili well integrated, creating a well balanced and flavorful sipper.  Reminds me of an artisan chocolate bar. (794 characters)

Photo of TheCrowsNest
4.13/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Served on nitro at Bootlegger's tasting room in Fullerton.

A thick, viscous head stands above the cascading bubbles. Pitch black.

Coffee, vanilla. I didn't get any chipotle flavors in this beer.

Coffee, vanilla, chocolate upfront. There's a subdued complexity that gives the drinker a lot to think about without overpowering.

Creamy. So creamy.

Bootlegger's should only put this on nitro. It's so much amazingly better than the carbed up version. (451 characters)

Black Phoenix (Chipotle Coffee Ale) from Bootlegger's Brewery
85 out of 100 based on 115 ratings.