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Improv (Improvisación) Oatmeal Rye India-Style Brown Ale - Cigar City Brewing

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Improv (Improvisación) Oatmeal Rye India-Style Brown AleImprov (Improvisación) Oatmeal Rye India-Style Brown Ale

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BA SCORE
85
very good

360 Ratings
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Ratings: 360
Reviews: 178
rAvg: 3.76
pDev: 15.96%
Wants: 41
Gots: 59 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Cigar City Brewing visit their website
Florida, United States

Style | ABV
American Brown Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: tpd975 on 03-29-2009

What you have here is an Oatmeal Rye India-style Brown Ale. Now you might be thinking oatmeal, rye, brown ale, India-style; isn’t that a lot to be going on in just one beer? Well yes, it is. But that is the point. Layers. Flavor elements building on and playing off of preceding elements, like a building wave; a growing crescendum of taste bud temptation; a wall of sound expressed through flavor and channeled toward your mouth. This beer isn’t for everyone. In many ways it is more than just a little weird. It certainly doesn’t fit easily into any category. It isn’t a brown ale, not just a brown ale anyway. It certainly isn’t an IPA. Calling it a rye beer would be selling it way short. In the spirit of all great things that are conceived in the moment, but perfected through passionate repetition it started life as an improvisation and grew from there. And it might not be for you. But if the thought of big spicy rye notes, a wallop of a hop punch, multitudinous layers of caramel, sweet malt and a respectable balancing gravity sound intriguing then you might want to wing it and give Improv a try.

60 IBU
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Photo of Holmes698
1.27/5  rDev -66.2%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

This beer was just terrible. The color was real nice, but that is about it. It was way over carbonated and tasted sour like spoiled lunch meat mixed with Brett. Pretty sure this was a bottle that was infected or something. I hope this was not the intended carbonation, aroma and taste. Every other beer I've had from Cigar City has been outstanding...not this one.

Photo of mothman
1.44/5  rDev -61.7%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Pours ¼ finger of fizzy light brown head. Color is a murky caramel brown.

Aroma: Rye, sourness, toasted nuts, tart flavors, and hops. Bad.

Taste: Rye, weedy hops, citrus, oaky. Booze shows. Something is off here. It has BO flavors.

Mouthfeel: Fizzy, spiced. Lighter bodied with a higher amount of carbonation. Ends dry.

Overall, this one isn't very good or it is infected. Not very good and not drinkable any bit. Drainpour.

Photo of ccastro
1.74/5  rDev -53.7%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

I'm sorry guys but another swing and a miss. Beer aggressively foamed out the bottle immediately on opening, after sitting in the refigerator for two days, so no mistakes on my part there. Immediately i am overwhelmed with tartness on the nose, sour sour sour. This beer is either infected or just plain bad and from reading some of the other reviews it's not just this batch. The sourness overwhelms any good qualities which are there, lying underneath but truly irrelevent. I've had the same problem with the Bolita Brown, as well as the Guava Grove. Cigar City is a great Brewery with great potential but lets get it together guys. Do not put these beers on the shelf when they are clearly sub-par.

Cheers everybody- it's only beer. I expect great things from this brewery but let's please enact some quality control.

Photo of DmanGTR
1.75/5  rDev -53.5%

Photo of zoolzoo
1.96/5  rDev -47.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A messy, mish-mash of flavors. Toffee like sweetness, tossed together with stout like roast characteristics. Spiked with bitter hops. Rough around the edges, quite astringent. I dont see any sort of vision for an end product here, more like "hey lets try this". If I brewed this in my basement, I might think it came out sort of neat. For a brewery like CCB to actually release it, Im not sure what to say.

Photo of frankiep77
2/5  rDev -46.8%

Photo of jk3
2/5  rDev -46.8%

Photo of DonFrap
2/5  rDev -46.8%

Photo of GrindFatherBob
2/5  rDev -46.8%

Photo of barleywinefiend
2.01/5  rDev -46.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Poured a dark cola like brown with good carbonation and a small dirty white head. Nose is sour, funky, cola, smoke, cola. Taste is all over the map and not in a good way either. Cola, funk, smoke, booze, root beer and random other stuff I do not with to drink again. Overcarbonated. How this is a brown ale I do not know. This was very hard to get down and while different is usually good, not on this. Avoid and do not drop the money on this beer.

Photo of crusian
2.09/5  rDev -44.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

bottle thanks to my lovely girlfriend coming back from CC brewery, but she picked this bottle up at a local shop for $10. Put the bottle down on the counter, touched the opener to the cap and paused for some reason... got two glasses ( I share with the G'friend). She inquired, "why did you stop?" Just have a funny feeling, as I look at the dent in my ceiling from a different bottle. as the CC brews are bottle fermented, i don't want to take chances. Sure enough, pop the cap and HERE IT COMES! no spills though.
Needless to say, much much head on these... it has been about 5 minutes and I still can not pour more into my glass. this is taking forever!!
Smells like a sour brown. some caramely notes, but not much.
taste... LOTS of carbonation still in this thing. but taste really isn't a word I can use on this beer. there really isn't much there. To be honest, tastes like tonic water... with a hint of caramel malts... wow, I hope this gets better as it gets warmer! Leaves a very acrid taste in my throat... and if feels a bit coated too. I was hoping the oatmeal would give a nice smoothness, adding to the drinkability, and the rye seems like it would have been a nice touch, but this really really didn't work. I need to read some of the other reviews to see if I got a bad bottle maybe? Man, this is not good.

Photo of DustinSWB
2.25/5  rDev -40.2%

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2.25/5  rDev -40.2%

Photo of billab914
2.31/5  rDev -38.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

750ml bottle into my Bruery tulip. As I opened the bottle it started to gush a little which didn't seem like a good sign. As I poured it into the glass I got mostly foam at first. As it settled it was a dark, murky, caramel brown color. Once the head settled down it was a pretty good looking beer though with some great lacing on the glass as I drank it.

The aroma mixes a sweeter, malty flavor with some bitter, slightly citrusy hoppiness and a musty, tart, sourness. Interesting mix of flavors. I can't imagine the sharp, funkiness is intentional though .

The taste shows a lot of bitterness to it throughout the flavor. I get a citrus rind, hop bitterness mixing with some roasted, burnt flavors. Some of that musty sourness creeps into the flavor as well, especially in the finish. It's not awful, but the flavors just don't work well for me at all.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with carbonation being high. Overall it was an interesting beer, but not a very good one. I'm hoping this isn't the way they intended it to taste, and I also hope I get to try it again sometime.

Photo of liamt07
2.36/5  rDev -37.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Bottle provided by Jason, 750ml into some tulips. Began to aggressively foam as soon as we popped the top. Not a good start.

Poured dark brown, with some deep red colours when held to the light. Massive light tan coloured head, sticky and lacy, fantastic retention nonetheless. And that's where the fun ended. Nose has some menthol, hops, light sourness and phenolic notes. Infection? Taste confirmed this I thought. Intense rye and oatmeal character, roast with overlying burnt bandaid and phenolic notes. Sourness present with this is unbearable. Medium thin-body, sour and completely unpleasant. We all ruled this a drain pour, signs of infection all around and just generally undrinkable. I'm sure this would've been nice on tap somewhere though!

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.39/5  rDev -36.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: Pours an opaque, dark brown body with a suspiciously tall, compacted, yellowish head.

Smell: Toffee-scented malts with additional hints of toast, citrus, nuts and rye grain are quashed by phenol-soaked work rags forced over my mouth and nose by an unseen assalant. What I hope was an unintentional funkiness is uncomplimentary to the rest of the brew.

Taste: Toasted nuts and toffee with a zip of spicy rye and hint of cocoa. Fruity citrus hop character with ample bitterness. Sadly, all this is lacerated by a voracious funkiness and once the stale, tart fruit, cobwebs, and bandages swiped from a first aid kit start rolling in, they don't roll out. Hard dryness and a continued phenolic fanfare on the finish you need to be sitting down for.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation. Soft mouthfeel from all of the rampant carbonation present.

Drinkability: Unfortunately, a real dud for me, but with all of the home runs they've hit, I can allow a shameful strike out. With enough improvising you're bound to let out some real sour notes.

Photo of zeff80
2.46/5  rDev -34.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A - Poured out a fairly dark brown color with a thick, tan head of foam that had some good retention. Some lacing.

S - It smelled very malty and of some pine. There were some funky notes, too.

T - Something wasn't right here. The flavor was pretty messy with an odd funkiness and metallic taste. Hoppy bitterness plus tons of malty sweetness couldn't correct the other odd flavors.

M - It was crisp and sharp with a dry finish. A medium-bodied beer.

D - It just didn't taste right. I don't know if the funky flavor is intention. To me it seems they tried to do too much with a unique style.

Photo of largadeer
2.5/5  rDev -33.5%

Photo of bierguru
2.54/5  rDev -32.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

A -
dark brown cloudy cant really see the carbonation thick off white head hangs really well

S -
all i get is rye hops and a slight alcohol hints

T -
beer is better drank warmish flavors come out a little bit better but still flavors are tough to find
the most potent taste is hops i also get slight oatmeal hints and a big dry coffee taste

M + D -
awful specially as you progress through the beer the hops dries out your mouth and the flavor lingers masking most flavors
the beer howver is full bodied

Photo of Gfunk720
2.61/5  rDev -30.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A- Deep brownish amber, light tannish head. Head is fairly small, but retains well. Good lacing.

S- Sweet rye. Brown sugar and molassas. I get some hops too, but it smells almost like an old ale. I smell some metal too.

T- Smooth at first, citrus and hoppy flavors come in quick and hard. It's actually a little overwhelming and messy. The aftertaste is a bitter lingering strong hoppy/Black IPA flavor. Has a slightly metally flavor too.

M- A little over carbed and could use a touch more body. This beer is almost confused if it wants to be an IPA or a big brown ale. The bitterness is just too much.

D- It's strong, and pretty hoppy, but doesn't have the malt profile to make it really drinkable. A miss from CCB

Photo of twiggamortis420
2.68/5  rDev -28.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

750 mL courtesy of fthomasl, thanks Frank! A little gushing upon opening, and pours with waaay too much carbonation. Fades fairly quickly though and leaves some nice lacing.

Nose is a touch tart, brown malts and lots of fruity yeast esters...strawberry, honeydew and raspberry. Meh, not impressed thus far.

Taste is woody and tart. Brettanomyces perhaps? I think so. Oatmeal adds nothing in the way of velvety smoothness and the fruitiness is a bit overpowering. Way too carbonated for my tastes, and swirling does not seem to knock enough out of solution. I didnt really like Maduro, and this one is similar to a certain extent with the rampant yeast esters. A total miss for me.

Photo of ehammond1
2.75/5  rDev -26.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Bottle (2012)

Acquired via trade
Thanks, DSho!

Murky brown with a small light brown head that leaves spots down the glass. Unspectacular though appropriate.

A somewhat spicy aroma for a brown brown ale, with a hint of sweetness, and floral hop character.

An unbalanced, strange brown ale, with floral hops and rye flavors not balancing all too well with the bready malt. This is also quite bitter for a brown ale.

Medium bodied with moderate to high carbonation.

I didn't particularly care for this beer. There's simply too much going on here without adding complexity or being all that tasty. Fail.

Photo of Bluecane
2.75/5  rDev -26.9%

Photo of beersensei305
2.78/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

The beer pours a deep mahogany color with a tan head that disappears quickly with no stickiness around the glass. The smell is of rye, booze, and hop. This is a hopy brew and it really comes out at the end. The hoppiness bite lingers a long time after a a sip along with the flavor of the rye. IF you drink this beer cold you will miss all the complexitiy of this brew. The front of the beer is smooth and has the flavor of mild choclate and oatmeal, the middle is the hops, and rye. This is a smooth beer medium bodied but is dominated by the hops and rye. This brew is ehh, a sipper when it warms up and is full of its potential- but not the greatest.

Photo of Chaney
2.8/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I got this at the Whole Foods right around the corner from Cigar City.

I poured this into a Cigar City snifter.

A: With a rather quiet pop of the bottle, then a gentle pour, the glass filled up with about 90% beige head and 10% liquid. That's.just.great...

S: Sort of a sour, funky, charred wood quality on the nose. I got that same weirdness from Jose Marti. There's no way in hell I would have tagged this as a brown ale.

T: A bit of sour funkiness on the front end, followed by a shitload of sawdust. Bone-suckingly dry on the finish, and quite a bitter wallop on the end as well. Was that the rye's contribution?

M: Like I stated, very bitter on the finish, and I actually could have used a little more sugar. This was almost an off Aud Bruin. The lacing was sudsy, and over-the-top.

O: I'm not really sure what Cigar City was going for here, but it definitely wasn't aimed at me...

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Improv (Improvisación) Oatmeal Rye India-Style Brown Ale from Cigar City Brewing
85 out of 100 based on 360 ratings.