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Tocobaga Red Ale - Cigar City Brewing

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Reviews: 209
Hads: 1,248
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 7.45%
Wants: 177
Gots: 156 | FT: 13
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Cigar City Brewing visit their website
Florida, United States

Style | ABV
American Amber / Red Ale |  7.40% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: tpd975 on 09-15-2010

Pours amber in color with notes of citrus and caramel. Citrus hop bitterness upfront with notes of caramel and an Amish bread sweetness. Citrus hop bitterness returns at the end for a long dry finish.

75 IBU
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Photo of Lawl3ss
3.31/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Lightly chilled 12 oz. bottle into a shaker pint. Bottling date appears to be 10.7.12.

Look- Three solid fingers of loose toasted coconut head that settles to an inch and a half of silky foam.. Amber-brown, serious haze. Sparse lacing. By the end of the pint, I've got about an eighth inch of sediment in the bottom of my glass.

Aroma- Immediate blast of citrus-pineapple-fir tree. Grapefruity as it warms. Background of graham cracker, moderately sweet. Pretty nice.

Taste- Similar to the aroma, a nearly indecent amount of hop flavor. Not overly bitter, but it's got some bite. Mango-pear-melon with some pine that fades into a grassier flavor. Malt never makes much of a showing, but what's there reminds me of toasted rye bread and maple.

Mouthfeel- Light-medium body, Carbonation has a sharp edge. Granular, silty feel. Clean, but cottony finish. One's enough.

Overall- Alright, aroma and flavor certainly average to above average. The rest, however, is a bit of a mess and really reminds me of a couple mediocre batches of homebrew I've had (and sometimes brewed) in the past. I'd bet it's better on tap, but a bottle's what I've got. (1,146 characters)

Photo of HuskyinPDX
3.34/5  rDev -19.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Opened on 5.16.12.

A - A very cloudy, dark amber body with a small yellow-tan head. Decent Retention.

S - Sweet fruity malt, almost cherry-like, some hops.

T - Bitter dark fruit, mostly raisin up-front, then some sweet bready malt.

D - Medium carbonation and body. A bitter bite that lingers.

O - Smelled really nice, but taste didn't quite deliver for me. (361 characters)

Photo of rudzud
3.34/5  rDev -19.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Received as an extra in a trade. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a nice slightly hazy reddish amber with a one finger white blanket head that fades to leave a thin, creamy blanket.

S - Perhaps this is a bit on the old side. Getting alot of malt sweetness and honey with this along with dank, cardboard hops. Yeah...eh.

T - Again, yeah, wheres the hops? More of the caramel and malt sweetness. There is some faint, older hops. Its not too bad, but well, I've had better red ales.

M - Mouthfeel Is not that bad for a red ale, alcohol is a bit noticeable. Nice light bitter finish that plays off the caramel sweetness.

O - Overall this isnt a bad beer, I just think it was perhaps not super fresh. All the players are there for this to be a solid brew, they just didnt step up for me. (792 characters)

Photo of ZDub
3.39/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Poured from the bottle into a snifter-tulip hybrid. Nice reddish hue with 1/4inch of cream head that lingers. Upon pouring I immediately smelled some sweet lightly toasted malts. After taking a stronger whiff the piney hops came into play with perhaps some floral/grassy notes. This red ale has a smooth light mouthfeel with a good but not overwhelming malt backbone. What surprised me was the significant hop presence in the finish that hung around for a bit. For me this threw off the overall balance and was a bit disappointing. For the style, I think the hops were too much. This one would be best described as a Red/Amber Ale trying to be an IPA. I'd have it again, but only because we don't get Cigar City in IL. If it was available in IL, I wouldn't hesitate to leave in on the shelf and grab a Bell's Amber Ale. (819 characters)

Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.41/5  rDev -18%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle obtained in a recent on line order with Leuken's in which they sent a number of less than fresh beers. This was one of them - bottle dated MAY1511. So 6 months old.

Poured in to Duvel tulip glass.

A - Medium orange/amber colour, slightly cloud; one finger of foamy cream-coloured head.

S - Sweet caramel/toffee malts up front with a s light bitterness present. A somewhat one dimensional nose with only the malt bill coming through. Not surprising given the freshness info.

T - A decent hop bitterness is evident up front with some floral and piney notes. A big sweet caramel/toffee malt backbone balances out the palate and as the beer warms, begins to take over the flavour profile. The bitterness returns in the finish. This would probably be excellent fresh, but at this age was a shadow of its former self.

M - Medium body with moderate carbonation. (870 characters)

Photo of jtierney89
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Semi hazed mahogany color with orange glow around the edges. Off white head. Caramel and hops with a faint dark fruitiness.

Dried dark fruit sweetness up front. Medium bodied that holds up well to the carbonation. Sticky caramelized glazed dark fruit bowl throughout. Faint citrus hop adds a touch of underlying bitterness but for the most part the sweetness overrides this and linger slightly. Very clean finish and smooth beer. Wish it showed a little less dark fruit. Along with the hop finish slightly dried toast flavor to help dry it out. A very clean and very drinkable beer though. Good but nothing to write home about. The alcohol is very deceptive as you cant taste it at all and it could easily pass as a 5% ABV brew. (730 characters)

Photo of pagriley
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

12oz can a few weeks old - received as an extra in a trade

A- pours a murky, cloudy reddish mud color - not the best start, but a good head with heavy lacing
S- Citrus hops with a hint of stone fruit sweetness
T- Smooth malt with a kick of hops. Not sure but there is a slightly unusual almost metallic edge to the aftertaste bitterness. Not my favorite
M - decent body, but not noteworthy.

Overall not entirely sold on this. It is good, and I am glad i tried it, but a harshness to the hop profile wasn't my favorite. (524 characters)

Photo of Rifugium
3.52/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

First had: bottle, throw in on a trade from...er, I don't remember

A pretty typical red ale all over. Reddish amber pour, with a foamy cap of off-white bubbles. Malty aroma with some piney hops coming through. Taste of caramel malt and toffee, piney hops, citrus pith, somewhat metallic in the finish. Pretty average even for the style, but still a good brew. Probably overrated just because it's CC. Medium body, and decently drinkable, aside from that off-flavor, which could just be a freshness issue (didn't check for a bottle date). (538 characters)

Photo of trxxpaxxs
3.53/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a deep amber with with hints of brown around the edges. There is about one full finger of off white head that sit top the beer. There some, but not much, lacing as it drinks.

S: I'm picking up berry, citrus, pine, and aluminum. It has a definite berry twang to it.

T: The taste follows the nose. Berries, citrus, pine, canned beer, tin, and weird metals. I'm not diggin' it.

M: Medium bodied beer. There is nothing special about this beer. Nothing cloying, not too thin, not too crisp, not too sweet, not too anything.

O: Not a huge fan of this beer. Something about the taste is off. I've had this many times, a bunch of different batches, and it's always the same. Pretty disappointing. I'll never seek this out again. (733 characters)

Photo of chinchill
3.57/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz undated bottle (presumably 2012) served in an Anchor Steam pint glass.
Looks like an amber or red ale but smells [3.75] like a pale ale or IPA, with the hops far more evident than the malts. Still hoppy for style in tasting, with at least as much hop presence as the surprising nose suggests. The malt is a bit more obvious in tasting, but little enough to leave this a moderately bitter and quite hoppy "red" ale. Relatively high ABV is almost completely hidden in the flavor and aroma, but lends some harshness to the feel. (532 characters)

Photo of Bosoxfan20
3.6/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Aggressive pour leads to a barely 1 finger, light tan head. Hazy amber with lots of sediment. Clearly looks to be bottle conditioned. Don't mind the yeasties, just a little surprised. Avg lacing and retention

S- Citrus and pine hops, dark fruits- dates or raisins, slightest touch of caramel malts. Bready biscuits. Quite hoppy for an amber. Nice aroma, but a pretty timid nose.

T- Hop forward with the citrus and pine. Grapefruit pith, herbal woodsy notes followed by a toasted bread malt. Nice esters fruity notes. Bitter finish that borders on astringency. Certainly a hop take on the style.

M- Mid body near full. Dry as can be in the finish. Some alcohol present. A littel heavy, so not the most drinkable.

O- A beer that seems to taste a litte different with each sip I take. While the hop level tends to overshadow the malt some, it is still a nice beer. Of the 5 or 6 I have had from CCB, this is one of my least favorite....which says a lot about a brewery when one of my least favorite is still pretty good.

$11.49 for a 6 pk (1,043 characters)

Photo of IPAdams
3.6/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Pours a dark red with a small white head that leaves moderate lacing down the glass.

Smell-Smells like caramel malts with hints of cherry and grapefruit.

Taste- Strong caramel malts with moderate bitterness. A bit sour on the end. Not too complex.

Mouthfeel- Good carbonation and medium mouthfeel.

Overall- Strong malt and caramel backbone. Hints of grapefruit hops. An ok red ale, nothing mindblowing. (418 characters)

Photo of stxSS07
3.61/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes.

A- Pours a dark copper with a finger of off-white head. Leaves cobweb lacing.

S- Caramel malts, bitter earthy hop notes. Not much going on here.

T- Sweet layers of malty caramel and toffee paired with the hop bitterness from the nose and a bit of a citric hop note. Much better than the nose.

M- Medium bodied with slightly aggressive carbonation.

O- Tastes more like a barleywine than a red ale, but pretty decent. (441 characters)

Photo of KajII
3.68/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

[Suggested Glassware: Shaker Glass]

The pour was a hazy medium caramel brown with a small (1 finger or less) off white rocky head that reduced to a large puddle and medium collar, with very good streaky lacing.

The aroma was of a light bread malt, pine and citrus hops and a soapy yeast with notes of caramel, citrus (grapefruit) and a mild fruity ester.

It tasted lightly bitter with a nice malty sweetness, a hint of caramel and a slight fruitiness early on, and then it became very hoppy with a big grapefruit presence towards the end. The flavor was about average in duration with a slightly sweet hoppy citrus taste that was left to hang out a tad longer.

Mouthfeel was almost medium in body and dry in texture with a moderate carbonation.

Overall this was a brew that possessed a bold hoppiness with mild fruity sweetness and a smooth drinkability. This one a really enjoyed and plan on drinking again...

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Photo of litheum94
3.73/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours out a deep, brushed bronze color, with a ton of sediment floating around. A two finger head, brown tinged, falls to a short, tight cover. Not much lacing.

Aromas of caramel malts with a citrus zest. Light spicing and woody pine.

Big malt profile, with flavors of caramel and toffee. Very juicy, grapefruit hop flavors, with some sweetness and citric sourness. Floral and woody, reminds me of redwood tips. Touch of alcohol on the finish, but not overpowering at all. Hop bitterness lingers in the mouth, with some residual sweetness.

A really nice red. I like the malt profile, and the citrus hops are very juicy. (625 characters)

Photo of WrathsU
3.73/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours a murky brown with red hues to it. Small tan head that lasts a medium amount of time.

S - Strong American pungent hop aroma. It overpowers the smell of caramel or any other "typical" red ale aromas. I don't dislike the smell I just wish there was more to it.

T - Again strong American bitter hop presence throughout. It does finish quite a bit sweeter than you'd expect upon first taste. It's a great hop forward beer but I again find it lacking the essential red ale qualities.

M - A nice medium mouth-feel, it doesn't have any alcohol burn or unpleasantness.

O - Overall this is a great and tasty red ale. It isn't a classical red ale but it is a great American take on one. I'd definitely recommend anyone to try this beer. (743 characters)

Photo of drabmuh
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

At the time of this review, this is the #3 American Amber / Red Ale on beeradvocate.com best of styles lists, slightly overrated in my opinion, served in a DFH snifter.

Beer is dark amber, red, with a nice big tannish head of small bubbles, nice carbonation and lacing, looking good. Beer is mostly clear until the sediment ends up in the glass. Looks pretty decent.

Aroma is malt malt and more malt, a little piny hops.

Beer is thick, seriously thick, heavy on the malt in the front, middle and back. this is a malt bomb. tastes pretty good though, just too heavy for me, especially for such a big bottle. It was good and I'd have it on draft again but not again in the bottle. (682 characters)

Photo of socon67
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours amber with a tan foam that lingers. Minimal lacing however.

S - Scents of citrus, and caramel. Kinda like a caramel apple. Funky, but relatively faint.

T - I like that this has some complex layers of flavor. Spicy, malty, and a touch of fruit sugars. It is tame, and I don't know if I like that it isn't just another in your face amber, or if I would like a more robust beer.

M - Extremely drinkable and smooth. Perfect for just about anytime you want a beer. Carbonation is soft, robust body yet not too heavy, and easy on the taste buds.

O - Another solid offering from CCB. This is a good change of pace and an example of subtle characteristics making a good beer. (681 characters)

Photo of chanokokoro
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a Cigar City Brewing branded shaker pint glass

Pours a hazy amber with heavy rusty highlights. A one a half finger cream colored caps the brew, average retention, scattered splotchy lacing. Caramel notes, citrus blossoms, and orange rind on the nose. Opens with flora and citrus specifically tangerine, mandarin orange, and pineapple. Light toffee and caramel malt midpalate. Finishes pleasantly dry with mild mandarin orange rind bitteress with more caramel accents. Abundant but gentle carbonation. Smooth, silky, fairly large malt bill and on the lighter side of medium bodied. Amber/Red Ales are certainly not one of my favored styles, but this is certainly one of the better ones I've had. Yet another winner, among many, from Cigar City Brewing. (785 characters)

Photo of brystmar
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

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Red body, white head and lace. Effervescence is apparent amidst the malty, hoppy aromas.

Nicely blended and balanced as I sip; high drinkability doesn't bode well for tomorrow morning. Between this, the Orange Wood IPA, and Huna on tap, tomorrow will be rough. Cheers! (292 characters)

Photo of Arbitrator
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Chilled bottle into a glass, courtesy of JeepCop. Thanks!

A: Pours a hazy maroon body with a pinky finger of beige head. Poor retention, but it maintains a fairly thick collar on the beer. No lace.

S: A substantial dose of caramel malt, bread, and plenty of piney hops. A touch of toast.

T: I think this was going for the hop-forward approach, but it's a bit faded now, causing the malt to step forward. It is caramel-dominated, along with a rye bread and toast characteristic that emerges during the odd sip. I detect a lesser character of pine hops. Good balance.

M: Full-bodied, and surprisingly so for a 7.2% beer. I found this kind of a chore to drink due to the heaviness. No trace of the alcohol, and no lingering bitterness.

O: A pretty tasty amber ale on the whole; I suspect this isn't all that fresh, and I'd probably enjoy it more if it were. I'd also probably enjoy it more if it were drier. But it's very solid. (934 characters)

Photo of kbutler1
3.81/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Draft. Pours a clear copper red color with a slight tan head. Hoppy citric aroma on the nose along with sweet malt and some woodiness. Nice lace left on the glass as it settles. Medium mouthfeel with good carb. The flavor starts off with some sweetness followed by flavors of citrus hops and the earthy/woody notes in the nose. For a red ale this is nicely balanced without being too maltyl. Very easy drinking as well. Ends with a lingering bitterness from the hops. (467 characters)

Photo of GarthDanielson
3.84/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a can into a shaker pint, the beer is a hazy, opaque, suspended sediment filled, amber-brown coloring with a thin, filmy, sparse surface coating of head. Aromas of tangy sweetness, tropical fruit sweetness, and some floral hops characteristics. Flavors are tangy sweet forward, with a caramel backbone and tart grapefruit and pineapple blend, as well as some earthy notes, bitter and spiced hops profiles, and bready characteristics. Very layered and deep, especially for the style. Tasty beer. The body is full, which I was expecting after watching it pour and settle. It also leaves a decent lacing behind on the glass. The aftertaste leans more towards an IPA, with tropical fruit, heavy on the grapefruit and pineapple, bitterness, and pepper spices. The finish is slick and slightly dry, with bitter and subtle richly sweet notes. This is a bit rough around the edges, but I like it a lot. (906 characters)

Photo of inlimbo77
3.85/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle with no date and no real information on the ABV ( I don't think). I have had this one for about a month I think. Poured into DFH signature glass

A: Very cloudy unfiltered brownish red. Bits of yeast etc. Thin layer of off white head. Fades to ring quickly. Lack of carbonation. Not really any lacing.

S: Piney hops and sweet malts. Pretty simple smells. Some hop astringency.

T: Nice sip actually. Nice piney hop bitterness on the tip of the tongue. Then you get those sweet maltiness in the mid mouth. And a clean piney filled close.

M: medium bodied red ale. Nice mouth coating.

O: B+ on the old grading scale. Might have been higher without some of the flaws in appearance and smell. Those yeast particles really were offputting to me I guess. (763 characters)

Photo of OrestesMethuon
3.86/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A very ruddy red ale, with hints of orange in the pour that overweigh the browns, this is a sugary—near syrupy— red that nonetheless is well-composed enough to escape any miring, in its thickness; instead it even offers limited, though by no means leaden, refreshment via its boozy, well-bittered flavor-profile. It is, foremost, definitely a sticky-ass beer; nonetheless, it boasts decent complexity, and does a very nice job finishing, hitting the hoppy acids hard and late on the tongue. Aromatic oils have been mostly boiled-out, however, so the nose possesses a distinct malt-winey nose that's a bit heavier, even, than most of the other good deep-reds I've tried; any retention of citric or floral oils is expressed through the aforementioned “stickiness,” which is much sappier, woodier, or otherwise more vegetal than a drinker might expect, even from a big red like this. Overall, it works, but it's nonetheless less flexible or for-all-seasons than most entrants in my red-ale wheelhouse; I believe it is, in large part, a function of this being a very straight-up red: not especially or aggressively hoppy, seemingly without any late-stage or dry hopping to add any fresh-hopped notes, and not hedging at all with an adjunct element like rye to add spiciness or crunch to the big-body of the swirly-thick malts. Still, it's good, and certainly fairly fecund—which I guess is the intellectual link between the beer, its name, and the premising patter printed on the side of the can. (1,507 characters)

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Tocobaga Red Ale from Cigar City Brewing
92 out of 100 based on 209 ratings.