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Tocobaga Red Ale - Cigar City Brewing

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Reviews: 210
Hads: 1,250
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 7.45%
Wants: 177
Gots: 157 | FT: 13
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Florida, United States

Style | ABV
American Amber / Red Ale |  7.40% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: tpd975 on 09-15-2010

Pours amber in color with notes of citrus and caramel. Citrus hop bitterness upfront with notes of caramel and an Amish bread sweetness. Citrus hop bitterness returns at the end for a long dry finish.

75 IBU
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Reviews: 210 | Hads: 1,250
Photo of wspscott
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

750ml bottle in pint glass
no date, but in my refrigerator for a couple of months

A: Pours crystal clear with a thick, fluffy, light tan head. I am surprised how quickly the head dropped leaving only a little lace. The red color is quite striking, a number of homebrewers would love to get this color in their own red ales.
S: Medium dark crystal malts and American/citrus hops.
T: A sharp bitterness that is well balanced by the sweet caramel followed by a burst of citrus hops (makes me think Amarillo). There is a hint of earthiness that I can't put my finger on, but it is not unpleasant.
M: Not crisp, not round/full, right in the middle, lower carbonation than I would expect for the style, but not unreasonable.
O: This makes a very good hoppy autumn beer, I am not sure I would want it when it was summer (especially a FL summer), but it is great when it is rainy and 40 degrees outside and I am not ready for a RIS. Worth seeking out, recommended. (959 characters)

Photo of facundoCNB
3.99/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a clean deep amber with a finger of head which left a nice creamy ring of lacing behind. nice hoppy grapefruit citrus and caramel in the nose.. reminds me a lot of nugget nectar. the flavor profile is different than NN for sure - a nice grapefruit hoppy bitterness followed by a caramel AND bready/nutty notes.. very much more malt oriented, but tasty as all hell! medium body with a creamy mouthfeel, moderate carbonation.

this is a really delicious amber ale.. very bready, yet very hoppy, with a nice sweet tone to it. if you don't live within their distribution, check out leuken's online, they deliver (that's how i got mine!) (632 characters)

Photo of aepb1
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

notes from phone, on tap at Tipples

A- Copper body with a foamy white head that stays forever

S- Nice malty red ale characteristics wtih a citrusy hop nose underneath, intriguing

T- Malty foretaste and moves into a nice fresh hop bitterness finish. A good balance.

M- Medium body and decent carbonation and the alcohol is hidden well

D- Nice red and intriguing with the fresh hops. Enough intrigue to get me to return to this one. (435 characters)

Photo of smakawhat
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A very large foaming light tan cap sitting on a bit of a cloudy amber body. Pinhead sized uniform bubbles a little bit of a dull looking body. Clumpy retention for the head.

Bouquet is a nice hop and mix of sweet malt. Sort of floral and nice, perfume like but not overbearing.

Taste is a good hop floral sense with a lingering slow hippy finish. Caramel malts seem a little overtaken by the big hop presence, but they show up in a good coating texture in the palate. A little bit of spicy sensations as well on the swallows, a nice tannic nut like dryness too.

Overall pretty solid. I'am not that amazed by it, but it is just a good solid well done amber ale. (663 characters)

Photo of fsvan
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into New Belgium globe.

A- Deep, translucent amber. Big, slightly amber head that is thick and persisting.

S- Big, unique hops. A bit of pine, and interesting, almost overripe citrus dominates. A light, typical red ale malt profile in the background.

T- Follows the nose fairly well. Big hops, but not an overload. And, again, this isn't a typical hop profile. It's very hard to put a finger on. A good amount of slightly sweet malt on the back end, finishing with a lingering bitterness.

M- Medium bodied. Very carbonated.

O- A good beer, but I was a bit disappointed based on the reviews. (609 characters)

Photo of jlindros
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to elCharderino (Reddit) badboy7113 for providing this one.

Pours an off-white fizzy 1/2 finger head that fades semi quickly no real lacing left on the sides, a ruby cranberry mahogany semi clear beer.

Nose brings some nice fresh hops at first, a little fruit hop kick with hints of stone fruit and a bit of tropical even, a touch of citrus, tangerine, guava, pear, hint of resin. Then some malts, slight sweet like caramel reddish malt, little candy like.

Taste starts with malts this time, sweet caramel and reddish candy malts, fairly sweet overall but not overly. Then fruity hops, more citrus oriented with tangerine, nectarine, little papaya like, some tropical fruit, etc. Hint of resin and floral hop flavors, with med to lighter bitterness overall, and hints of yeast additions with a touch of esters and fruity flavors, with a touch of warming booze to go with the mild estery flavors. Finish is not too dry, little sticky sweet, nice lingering bitterness with more floral type hops, little caramel candy sweet flavors lingering as well.

Mouth is med bodied, hint of warming booze, decent carb.

Overall pretty good, nice hop presence that doesn't get overly bitter, nice malt presence as well that gives some decent flavors and backbone, a touch of the yeast coming through as well. A well done beer. (1,322 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

As a tribute to the Tocobaga establishment in early florida, the taste of citrus, grain, and earth culminate in a taste that's every bit IPA as it is an amber ale.

Obvious amber overtones set the pace with the beer's brightly hazed pour. As the beer relaxes, it releases a mildly tan-ish foam that rests sturdily above the beer. With solid foam stance, the beer laces intricately as the beer fades. The beer is every bit as impressive as it is inviting.

Resinous citrusy hops spring to the nose with quite a zesty surprise. Grapefruit and pine gently make way for more malty elements to rise to balance. Crusted bread, toasted grain, lightly scorched caramel, and dry biscuit aromas come close to matching that of the hops before leveling out in support.

Hoppy flavors also strike first- citrusy grapefruit and dried oranges early, and then the more woody pine and resin notes follow shortly. As the hops settle onto the tongue, the malty middle palate is dry yet lightly sweet. The taste of caramel, savory bread crust, and sun kissed grain present themselves but without much of the sweetness that is normally associated with those flavors. It's malty dry taste provides an even-keel richness before a return of deeply resinous hops to finish.

Malty-dry in texture too, the early embedded carbonated creaminess slowly recedes and allows the dryness from hops to dictate the late palate. Alcohol warmth and a light grainy-sweet texture is all that's left in its terse aftertaste.

With the bitterness and hop profile of IPA, the beer is tampered by a balancing malt sweetness, starchiness, and body- it both appeases hop heads and those who prefer balance alike. (1,667 characters)

Photo of zeledonia
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Thanks to cubanbeerguy for the extra. Bottle says 7.2% ABV. Tasted 25 August 2013.

Pours a lightly hazy rusty amber color. One finger of very light tan head. Good retention and fantastic lacing, with a ring of bubbles around the surface.

Smell is really nice, though I'm having a hard time describing it. It's light on the malts, just a touch toasty, dark grains like rye, but mostly clean. Spicy! A bit herbal. Delicate but complex. Very nice.

Taste is interesting; it's about 2/3 of the smell. Has the grainy malts, spice that's sometimes only a light touch and other times pretty assertive, and a mild bitter swing in the back-end. It's funny; it drifts between boring and good. On balance, it's closer to good.

Feel is good. Medium-bodied, medium-high carbonation. Lasts just the right amount of time, going-staying-almost-staying and then poof it's gone.

I like this beer. It's more spicy than anything else. A spicy red ale is something I don't remember having before, but I'm really enjoying it. (1,007 characters)

Photo of stakem
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into a matching cigar city snifter. Big thanks go to sendsilk for the opportunity to try this brew. It appears a hazed burnt copper with a hue to it that is more of a brownish-red. A tan cap swells just shy of a finger strong and fades back to a thin lacing atop. Rising bubbles of carbonation maintain a ring around the perimeter.

The aroma is very hoppy with a fruity and floral scent. Quite a bit of alcohol is noted that draws more focus into the fruity aspects of the aroma that are at this point a bit more rindy smelling. The grain is present with a caramel to toffee inclusion that provides enough sweetness to really play nice with the fruity and floral aspects of the hops. Everything about this aroma is quite nice.

The taste is just what you would expect based off of the aroma. A big hop punch of flavors and bitterness open up with fruity rind quality, pulp and a floral element. The alcohol inclusion is noticed immediately with an accenting fruity ester that compliments the hops nicely. The backend is all about the malt which is caramel to toffee flavored and produces enough sweetness to really round this brew out nicely.

This is medium bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation. My immediate reaction to this brew based on the nose and secondly confirmed by the taste was that this is Florida's answer to Nugget Nectar. Fans of hoppy reds or imperial reds will really enjoy this. Nicely done cigar city, I would enjoy more of this! (1,470 characters)

Photo of aubuc1
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle with no date for me to find.

Pours a bright reddish orange that is slightly hazy with a slowly receding off white head.

Smell is sweet tobacco and faint citrus.

Taste is a balance between sweet citrus, biscuity malt, and bitter finish.

Mouthfeel is good. It is very dry.

You cannot taste the alcohol, but is relatively strong. Not a great beer, but a very good amber. (385 characters)

Photo of Lerxst
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Growler purchased yesterday at CCB poured into a pint glass.

A-Pours a hazy amber with a one finger light beige head that has fair retention and leaves quite a bit of lace.

S-Slightly sweet malt, maybe a bit of toffee, a nice waft of pine, citrus and earthy hops.

T-Bitter hop bite leads-earthy and citrusy-with slightly sweet caramel and toffee coming in the middle and staying throughout. Hops come back and bite at the back end.

M-Medium body and carbonation, slightly creamy and oily.

O-I like this one. I'd buy it again without hesitation. (549 characters)

Photo of clayrock81
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a auburn colored body with good head on top of a classic amber ale smell of sharp, citric hops and some distinct caramel malt with some breadiness even. Hops are very prevelant in the taste and balance well with the sweet caramel malt. A hoppy, dry, crisp beer in a light-to-medium body that then picks up a little sweetness and finishes with a snappy finish that leaves you wanting for more. A great example of a red ale that is not too sweet or watery and overhopped and quite enjoyable. (496 characters)

Photo of PorterLambic
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a slightly hazy reddish brown with a smallish head that dissipated rather uickly to a thin film. Little lace expected but some clings rather tenaciously for a long while.
Smell is hoppy with citrus and a faint malt in the background.
Taste is along those lines in that hops predominates with a slight citrus note and some malt following in the distance though it is more noticeable in the aftertaste as the hops fades.
Nearly full in body, this brew has good carbonation, tangy upfront with a fairly quick fade. A citrusy hop note lingers longest, even surpassing the malt. Some warming occurs late. Another good beer from CCB. (634 characters)

Photo of aMILESupreme
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

smells hoppy with a nice slight hint of malt. This beer taste solid. really nice red ale effort, nice main rotation beer for CCB. Maybe a touch heavy for a red ale, specially one with this intermediate alch %.

Not my favorite red ale or CCB. Worth trying though. (264 characters)

Photo of jaasen64
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle thanks to dolfan54fl. Poured into CCB snifter.

A- Pours an opaque dark nutty/chocolaty slightly reddish brown. Not too much of a head. Average, to slightly below average carbonation.

S- Sweet and malty with aromas of caramel, honey, and some floral notes.

T- Sweet, malty, caramel, honey, definitely sweeter then your average red ale. Finishes with a nice sweet, malty finish.

M- Medium bodied, slightly below average carbonation, finishes smoothly, abv very well hidden.

O- This was another great CCB offering. Not my favorite beer that I've ever had, but fantastic for a red ale. Lots of flavor and easily drinkable. If anything it might be a tiny bit too sweet. Definitely recommended trying. (713 characters)

Photo of thecheapies
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled November 20th, 2012. Poured into a pint glass.

Burnt amber to red ochre in color. Yellow-white head forms over an inch and sits steadily. Medium lacing.

Unexpected burst of piney and grapefruit hops with a kiss of tropical fruit and lime. Sun-ripened citrus and clean toasted grains that balance nicely. Earthy aromas range from hop oils to baked earth itself. Nice aroma.

Spicy red ale with more pine than grapefruit in the flavor. Flourishes of orange and assorted citrus. Very toasty grains that still can't overcome the spicy bitterness from the hops. Many evergreen flavors at work here. Hoppy, but not overly. A delicious beer.

Drinks very easily. Has some prickle from the alcohol level which peels layers away from a simply-smooth body and carbonation combination.

A red ale I'd seek out again. Recommended. (828 characters)

Photo of FanofHefe
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle, freshness dated as Jan 2012 bottling. Pours a clear, deep amber color, a little hazy, with a slight red tint. About a one-finger tan head that leaves a little scattered lacing.

A very pleasant aroma that is an almost equal balance of earthy/citrus hops and caramel malt. Solid aroma but not overpowering.

The taste is equally satisfying in the blend of hops and malt. Dense flavor and more of a dark malt flavor presents in the taste than in the aroma.

Medium mouthfeel and very easy to drink. This is a complex brew that seems to be a dizzying mix of a red, amber, brown, and IPA. Bottomline is that it is very tasty and I would love to have this as a regular offering. Rock solid. (701 characters)

Photo of HoosierInOhio
4.01/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to my Tampa buddy for this trade.

A - Dark Red, with a caramel/brown color, topped with 1 inch of thick foamy head that took a few moments to dissipate. Opaque, looks like a brown ale.

S - Tough to get a read even after letting it warm. Some Dark fruits, smokey aroma, molasses or caramel.

T - Lots going on to the taste. Mild hops, caramel, some sweetness possibly a hint of vanilla? A slight smokey burn aftertaste but just right, not too much.

M - Creamy, swishy, velvety, feels great.

O - My second CC beer. While the nose was tough to pick up, everything else was great. Very good and a memorable red ale. (624 characters)

Photo of Roguer
4.02/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Almost murky, more-brown-than-red ale, topped by a firm cream head with excellent retention and leaving long lines of lacing.

Lovely aroma blending citrus and floral hops with brown sugar and caramel. Bright and bready.

Flavor beautifully matches the aroma, with sweet juicy citrus notes up front, tons of caramel and brown sugar throughout, a slightly green, herbal edge to the bitterness, lots of bread to the malt, and a bitter, citrus peel-tinged finish.

Lively mouthfeel, slightly slick and syrupy, long wet and oily finish.

This is a lovely, tasty ale, reminiscent of a lower ABV version of Brown Shugga. (614 characters)

Photo of fmccormi
4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Straight pour from 12oz pry-off bottle to a 25cl Duvel Single tulip; bottling date of October 18, 2012 printed in fuzzy, hard-to-read, red ink near the top of the label, toward the back side (“18 OCT – 12,” I think). So, that makes this bottle two days under three weeks old on the date of consumption. I’d say that’s acceptable.

Appearance (4.5): Two full fingers of very light tan head comes off the pour, rocky at first and then more even across the top as it dies down. The body is a surprisingly dark, moderately hazy, garnet-amber color, and very attractive. Makes the beer look quite a bit more sturdy than you might have expected. Some very nice lacing around the top of the glass, a thick ring of tight webbing all around, and fat splotches here and there as it goes down.

Smell (4.0): Citrus, quite clearly, is a prominent character here but it’s hard to pin down: passionfruit, maybe some pineapple, but there’s an oddly hard to place fruity, almost vegetal character going on, like some sweet grapefruit with a dank twang on the back end . . . if that makes any sense at all. There’s a very nice, notably rich and moderately sweet malt character here too, more molasses than caramel.

Taste (4.0): Good dose of sweet citrus, à la pineapple and some orange, again paired with an oddly vegetal (but not oniony unpleasant) twang as it moves into a grapefruit rind bitterness on the back end. The malt is rich and sturdy here, acting as a strong counterpart and balancing the hops well—molasses, pumpernickel bread, some dark brown sugar, more of that rich but not particularly sweet bread character. No alcohol detected at all, in fact it seems like it could be absorbing some that’s been squirreled away in my liver.

Mouthfeel (4.0): Modest carbonation that tingles softly on the way down; the body is medium weight and moderately viscous with just a barely dry finish. Fits the character of the palate well.

Overall (4.0): This winds up being a surprisingly mellow beer, in my opinion. Don’t get me wrong, it’s plenty hoppy and has a good dose of bitterness but it’s nicely balanced, and doesn’t harass or assault the palate in quite the way Jai Alai can. Also, it seems that the hop profile used in this beer fits the malt body surprisingly well, and in a way that suits the style: the hop profile of Jai Alai would not be as good of a fit for this beer, nor would Tocobaga’s hop profile be as good of a fit for Jai Alai. They’re well-matched. Overall, this is a very solid beer and absolutely worth seeking out if you’re a fan of this style. (2,598 characters)

Photo of liamt07
4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle brought back from Florida from my girlfriend, 12oz into a tulip.

Unfiltered reddish brwon, with an offwhite head. Relatively dense lace and a good film. A good bit of malt in the nose, caramel and some a bit of toasty malts. Grapefruit and some darker fruits perhaps, almost berry-like. Fairly sweet, but some nice hop character as well. Lots more caramel malt on the palate, and similar hop characteristics - a bit herbal and a dash of pine in the finish perhaps as well. Fruity but more of a malt show than anything. Medium full feel, and medium low carb with a smooth feel. Easily consumed, a tasty red ale - glad to have 5 more in the pack. (652 characters)

Photo of Beer4B
4.04/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Disclaimer: I've mostly been on a hop kick with IPAs & DIPAs.

However, this was an excellent red ale. Fantastic smell and with great mouth feel and taste.

Found a 6-er of this 3 days old and figured I would finally try it...glad I did.

A refreshing ale and a good benchmark for this style, though I'm not that prevalent in this style currently. (348 characters)

Photo of Jadjunk
4.04/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

"The Tocobaga lived off the bounty of Tampa Bay hundreds of years before the arrival of the Spanish in the 1500's. They were potters, tool makers and the only Florida natives to grow maize. The large platform mounds they built are still with us today, with one of the largest found near Old Tampa Bay in Safety Harbor, Florida. Climb to the top, and with a little imagination you can see Tampa Bay as they did." Brewed in the style of an American Red Ale. A year-round, Florida exclusive release. Available in 12 oz. can 6 packs and on draft.

Poured from a 12 oz. can to a pint glass. Served above 61º Fahrenheit.

(Appearance) Pours a frothy brown-tinged white head over a maple amber body. Sediment is plentiful and varies from specks to chunks in the brew. Little to no carbonation is visible. Retention is above average. Lacing is light and streaked. 4

(Smell) Bready, biscuity malts with a medium perceived sweetness pair with a barrage of spicy, tropical fruity and mildly piney hops. Moderate bitterness, well balanced and inviting aroma. Potency is medium-high. 4.25

(Taste) Bready caramel malts with a touch of spicy grain character and a pinch of tropical fruit, finishing with a lingering wave of peppery and resinous hops amidst a bed of lightly toasted malt. Bitterness is moderate, right in tune with the sweetness of the beer. Quite tasty despite a lacking of the significantly bright hops in the flavor. 4

(Mouthfeel) Texture is chewy, smooth, clean. Carbonation is very modest, generating a soft, meager mouthfeel. Body is medium+ for the style, medium+ overall. Balance is spot on, just enough sweetness with bitterness to match. Alcohol presence is low, off characters are minimal. 3.75

(Overall) An impressive Red Ale that does a nice job in balancing hops and malt while keeping things relatively clean. Although the hop flavor was mildly tempered in comparison to the aroma, it's a very drinkable ale, and one of the cleanest, most drinkable Red Ales I've had the opportunity to consume. Floridians are very fortunate to have this as a state exclusive. 4

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Tocobaga Red Ale
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Photo of jsanford
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Pint Glass at the Distillery in Savannah, GA. First (legal) kegs of CCB available in Georgia! Woot!

Poured a dark amber-red with a creamy white head that fades to a slight soapy haze. Lovely nose of sweet amber malt and dank, piney hops. Taste follows the nose nicely, lots of pungent pine and grapefruit hops backed up by the sweet amber malt backbone. Smooth mouthfeel with a medium body and crisp carbonation. Overall an excellent Amber that can stack up to the big boys (N.N. & Zoe) easily. So glad we can get it here in Georgia now! (552 characters)

Photo of JayS2629
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured a deep red with a creamy white head that faded slowly but left minimal lacing.

The aroma was of toast, nutty notes, and rich caramel with orange zest and grapefruit notes.

Simple, but complex. An oxymoron of making harmony of some clashing elements. Hints of spice in the back of big caramel, apples, and citrus. Nice balance.

Medium bodied and smooth.

Overall, very good, complex and interesting. Wouldn't drink a lot. (430 characters)

Tocobaga Red Ale from Cigar City Brewing
92 out of 100 based on 210 ratings.