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Tocobaga Red Ale - Cigar City Brewing

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224 Reviews
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Reviews: 224
Hads: 1,351
Avg: 4.13
pDev: 25.42%
Wants: 186
Gots: 188 | FT: 13
Brewed by:
Cigar City Brewing
Florida, United States | website

Style | ABV
American Amber / Red Ale | 7.40% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: tpd975 on 09-15-2010

Pours amber in color with notes of citrus and caramel. Citrus hop bitterness upfront with notes of caramel and an Amish bread sweetness. Citrus hop bitterness returns at the end for a long dry finish.

75 IBU
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Reviews: 224 | Hads: 1,351
Photo of olfolxholme
3.87/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

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thanks to hdelavega for this 12 oz bottle, poured into a Samuel Smith tulip pint

A - 2 finger head of medium size off white bubbles over a surprisingly cloudy dark copper beer. Head died down to a respectable level that lasted for quite some time. Pretty good lacing. Bottle has a nice story about the Tocobaga people - mentions that they were the only Florida natives to use maize. Seems like a lost opportunity to make a maize beer, but this American Red will have to do. (kidding) Bottling date is NOV2011. Also says "TWO TWO," maybe that means 11/22/11.

S - Beautiful hop aroma on this one. Smells exactly like I want this style to smell. Very inviting, totally classic. Only drawback is it doesn't last the whole time. Also, there is a hint of earthy stone in the back somewhere. First impression was great, though.

T - Really hoppy, good easily be considered an Imperial Red. Malt is there, but has a muted quality about it that reminds me of the earthy stone aroma.

M - I am surprised by how much bitterness is lingering on my tongue. To the point of puckering, even. It's totally smooth and highly refreshing going down, though.

O - I was surprised by how hoppy this beer was. I like hoppy beers but I actually found this a little astringent. I can see how this could become a favorite if I could drink a ton of these all the time. For those who can't get this, I'd compare it to a really hoppy version of Red Chair NWPA from Deschutes. Definitely worth trying and one I would gladly drink again.

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Photo of Finatic
4.92/5  rDev +19.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Growler poured into a chilled Cigar City pint glass.

A: Pours a dark orange, red color with a lovely foamy, white head that recedes ever so slowly.

S: Lots and lots of hops with citrus and pine at the forefront, smell some malt sweetness in it as well.

T: Tastes just like it smells with the hops lingering on the palate to the end. Nice sweet malt background balances out the hops brilliantly.

M:Medium bodied and very easy to drink, alcohol masked very well.

O: My favorite amber and when fresh like this one very hard to find a better amber ale out there.

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Photo of stxSS07
3.61/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes.

A- Pours a dark copper with a finger of off-white head. Leaves cobweb lacing.

S- Caramel malts, bitter earthy hop notes. Not much going on here.

T- Sweet layers of malty caramel and toffee paired with the hop bitterness from the nose and a bit of a citric hop note. Much better than the nose.

M- Medium bodied with slightly aggressive carbonation.

O- Tastes more like a barleywine than a red ale, but pretty decent.

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Photo of inlimbo77
3.85/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle with no date and no real information on the ABV ( I don't think). I have had this one for about a month I think. Poured into DFH signature glass

A: Very cloudy unfiltered brownish red. Bits of yeast etc. Thin layer of off white head. Fades to ring quickly. Lack of carbonation. Not really any lacing.

S: Piney hops and sweet malts. Pretty simple smells. Some hop astringency.

T: Nice sip actually. Nice piney hop bitterness on the tip of the tongue. Then you get those sweet maltiness in the mid mouth. And a clean piney filled close.

M: medium bodied red ale. Nice mouth coating.

O: B+ on the old grading scale. Might have been higher without some of the flaws in appearance and smell. Those yeast particles really were offputting to me I guess.

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Photo of FeDUBBELFIST
4.15/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a pint glass for $6.75. Sampled 11/23/10.

A: Amber with red tints and crystal clear. Average sized head of 2 fingers, off-white in color and great retention.

S: Enormous hop character given the style, mostly tropical with light citrusy notes. Bready with strong caramel notes and possibly even a dash of chocolate malt (I may be wrong here though since no one else garnered the hint of chocolate in the aroma).

T: A basic amber recipe with a monstrous hop bite (relatively speaking, of course). 75 IBUs provides more than enough bitterness to balance out the caramel component.

M: The bitter flavor lasts through the finish, promoting the dry quality on the end of the palate. Medium body, ample carbonation.

D: [DRINKABILITY] Definitely an above average amber ale and somewhat unique in this arena. The hop bill certainly solidifies this...

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Photo of BlastBeats
3.92/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Big thanks to bryanole27 for this extra!

Appearance: the Tocobaga pours a rustic, red brick color with an off white head that produces some decent lacing.

Smell: very earthy, musty hops.

Taste: I'm definitely picking up an overly steeped tea-like flavor. Some noticeable pomegranate as well.. these flavors seem to coexist well with the leafy hop bitterness.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied with a dry finish.

Overall: I'm not usually a huge fan of red ales but I did enjoy this one quite a bit. Glad I got to try it.

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Photo of Holland
4.25/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: pours a mostly clear red-copper color with a thick creamy head that has solid retention.

S: smells very hoppy, drowning out just about all the malt on this. Fresh pine sap and a bit of citrus with sweetness.

T: tastes pretty amazing. It's very pine-like, but then has some subtle citrus and sweetness followed by bitterness.

M: medium body, but feels lighter with the fluffy carbonation expanding the beer in my mouth. Not a harsh carbonation at all. Very nice.

O: very nice beer - one of the best in the category. Picked it up (last one) for $10 for a 6-pack at Ward's. Happy to see it there. I've had it on tap before and it

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Photo of Lerxst
4/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Growler purchased yesterday at CCB poured into a pint glass.

A-Pours a hazy amber with a one finger light beige head that has fair retention and leaves quite a bit of lace.

S-Slightly sweet malt, maybe a bit of toffee, a nice waft of pine, citrus and earthy hops.

T-Bitter hop bite leads-earthy and citrusy-with slightly sweet caramel and toffee coming in the middle and staying throughout. Hops come back and bite at the back end.

M-Medium body and carbonation, slightly creamy and oily.

O-I like this one. I'd buy it again without hesitation.

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Photo of cosmicevan
3.9/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle. thanks billyshears!!! you da man, great to see you again.

a - opened the bottle and filled my E snifter...brew poured a transparent brown which settled a dark brown with a full finger of bright white frothy bubbly head. lacing was chunky and clingy. to the light, the beer is a murky red...amber. looks really classy for an amber.

s - nicely balanced hoppy red. citric blast...tropical fruit basket. very ipa. possibly even nicer than jai alai.

t - wow, a fight between bittering hops and caramel malts of an amber. a bit of a battle for supremacy.

m - bitter and biting.

o - overall, a very interesting take on the amber style. the hoppy ipa in there seems to clash with the red a bit, but makes for an interesting blend of flavoring. certainly worth a taste or a few...probably pretty polarizing. amazing for the hop heads, but a bit of an identity crisis for the style police.

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Photo of hdelavega
4.17/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Just picked up from the brewery. Dated November 22nd so four days old. Poured to a Duvel tulip glass.
Pours a murky brownish red with a one finger tan head that's gone in a minute leaving just a film.
Smells like an IPA. Lots of hop, tropical fruit, a bit of a woody pine aroma, slight maltieness in the back.
Wow big hoppy flavor, if my eyes were closed I'd defiantly have guessed this to be an IPA. Lots of citrusy hop, a little sweetness I get that light malt in the back again.
Hop resin flavors coat the mouth leaving a long lasting bitterness. Pretty bright carbonation. On the swallow it goes down real easy and then those hops sneak up and bight you one last time on the finish.
This guy reminded me of the big hoppy monster on steroids. This is the amber ale that haunts the dreams of a hop head and is seriously worthy of some recognition. Awesome beer, especially this fresh.

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Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.41/5  rDev -17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle obtained in a recent on line order with Leuken's in which they sent a number of less than fresh beers. This was one of them - bottle dated MAY1511. So 6 months old.

Poured in to Duvel tulip glass.

A - Medium orange/amber colour, slightly cloud; one finger of foamy cream-coloured head.

S - Sweet caramel/toffee malts up front with a s light bitterness present. A somewhat one dimensional nose with only the malt bill coming through. Not surprising given the freshness info.

T - A decent hop bitterness is evident up front with some floral and piney notes. A big sweet caramel/toffee malt backbone balances out the palate and as the beer warms, begins to take over the flavour profile. The bitterness returns in the finish. This would probably be excellent fresh, but at this age was a shadow of its former self.

M - Medium body with moderate carbonation.

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Photo of WrathsU
3.73/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours a murky brown with red hues to it. Small tan head that lasts a medium amount of time.

S - Strong American pungent hop aroma. It overpowers the smell of caramel or any other "typical" red ale aromas. I don't dislike the smell I just wish there was more to it.

T - Again strong American bitter hop presence throughout. It does finish quite a bit sweeter than you'd expect upon first taste. It's a great hop forward beer but I again find it lacking the essential red ale qualities.

M - A nice medium mouth-feel, it doesn't have any alcohol burn or unpleasantness.

O - Overall this is a great and tasty red ale. It isn't a classical red ale but it is a great American take on one. I'd definitely recommend anyone to try this beer.

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Photo of jmarsh123
3.97/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a murky almost like brown with 1.5 finger of sticky head.

Smells of sweet caramel malt. Some earthy and piney hops.

Starts off with some sweet caramel malt flavor. Some strong bitter earthy hops make a presence at the end and balance out the malt a bit.

Mouthfeel and carbonation levels are both good.

Very solid beer. Got better as it warmed just a little.

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Photo of maximum12
4.28/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Thanks to moose3285 for yet another bottle of Cigar City, as I wind my way slowly through their entire bottle population. Mostly thanks to the mooseguy. I like moose. I've seen a few out of a canoe. They're big enough to be scary & intimidating. The animal, not moose3285. 750 ML bottle poured into a pair of pint glasses.

Pour is red squirrel amber, deep, vibrant, but quieter. An uncouth pour results in an overabundance of head in the first glass; more caution is exercised for the second. Smell is typical sweet malts, but cut nicely with citrus; but the smell vanishes quickly. Odd.

Tocobaga Red Ale is deep into the red. The malts are beautiful, racing from sweetly smiling to slightly toasted to caramel. Citrusy hops are mild, sensed more in the nose & aftertaste than the foreground. Underlying earthiness doesn't detract, but adds a nice layer. Crisp for a red, & as my wife put it, 'chuggable'. 750ML of this red wouldn't be hard to sip through a crazy straw.

One of the best straight-up reds I've had, this brew has a fantastic layering & depth that's lacking in the majority of the style. Excellent beer.

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Photo of Heatwave33
4.42/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured rom a 750ml bottle to a Cigar City Snifter.

Color: Redish brown with a khaki colored head.

Smell: Hops, caramel malts, nice sweet notes. IPAish

Taste: Like an IPA. Hops, caramel malts, sweet citrus tone. Very nice!

Mouthfeel: Good carbonation, smooth with a dry finish.

Overall: The IPA feel of this brew was great. Loved the hop, citrus aroma and taste. Cannot wait for this two come in six packs! Cheers!

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Photo of wspscott
3.98/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

750ml bottle in pint glass
no date, but in my refrigerator for a couple of months

A: Pours crystal clear with a thick, fluffy, light tan head. I am surprised how quickly the head dropped leaving only a little lace. The red color is quite striking, a number of homebrewers would love to get this color in their own red ales.
S: Medium dark crystal malts and American/citrus hops.
T: A sharp bitterness that is well balanced by the sweet caramel followed by a burst of citrus hops (makes me think Amarillo). There is a hint of earthiness that I can't put my finger on, but it is not unpleasant.
M: Not crisp, not round/full, right in the middle, lower carbonation than I would expect for the style, but not unreasonable.
O: This makes a very good hoppy autumn beer, I am not sure I would want it when it was summer (especially a FL summer), but it is great when it is rainy and 40 degrees outside and I am not ready for a RIS. Worth seeking out, recommended.

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Photo of ChugginOil
4.12/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tocobaga

Thanks to my FL trader GallowsThief for the badass extra!

Pours a nice brownish red color that lets in only a bit of light. The lacing clings in off white patches along the glass. The nose has a very nice hoppiness to it. Inviting bouquet of pine and sweet malt entices. The taste is clean and hoppy up front and offers some sweetness in the back. Clean, crisp and dry mouthfeel is suiting for the style. Overall, another bomb ass brew from CCB, and a great representation of the style.

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Photo of warnerry
4.35/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle dated 8/23/11

A - Pours a clear deep red/amber with almost two fingers of off-white head. Head has decent retention and leaves some nice lacing.

S - Some caramel, a bit of sugar and some dark fruits. Also a nice hop presence.

T -- Taste is opposite of smell, with a big hop presence up front, mostly citrus. All the other components of the smell are present in the taste, but play a supporting role. Very tasty.

M -- Medium mouthfeel. A bit oily. Finishes somewhat bitter and dry.

O - I like hoppy amber ales, and this is one of the best I've had. Would definitely get this again.

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Photo of aasher
4.12/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This bottle was courtesy of BrewerB in a recent box, thanks Brian! I'm a really big fan of Cigary City so I didn't expect to get some CC from San Fran haha. I even tend to like their beers that are styles that I'm not fond of. This is one of those styles that I'm not too fond of.

This beer pours a cherried wood in color, medium in body, with an off white lacing around my snifter. It smells of light and piny hops, some cherry, and clean malts. I definitely didn't expect it to be this hoppy. It's simple yet really nice. The flavor too is pretty simple but overly effect. It features flavors of slightly sweet malts and really clean, and not overly sticky bitter hops. It's just really approachable and easy to drink. For an amber, it's pretty stellar. Never would I have imagined this beer to be so hoppy. Yet again, another great beer from Cigar City.

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Photo of RoamingGnome
4.23/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to N. Ketchum for the opportunity to try this one out.

Poured out of a 750 ml bottle into a snifter.

A) Red, maybe better described as rust in color. A nice two finger head, which settled into a nice white cap. Lacing is up and down the glass.

S) A slight sweetness, but mostly a very nice hop presence. Pine and citrus fruits.

T) This is a hop lovers red. Some pine, citrus and tropical fruit. There is a little caramel sweetness in the finish. Nice malt/hops balance. Well done...

M) Medium body with moderate carbonation. This is a smooth, well rounded brew. Nice feel...

O) This is what I was hoping for with Cigar City. Glad I got to try this one. A fantastic beer for sure. Hey Uncle Mark, when you drive the Caddy back from Florida in the Spring, load some of this in the trunk for me.

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Photo of HoosierInOhio
4.01/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to my Tampa buddy for this trade.

A - Dark Red, with a caramel/brown color, topped with 1 inch of thick foamy head that took a few moments to dissipate. Opaque, looks like a brown ale.

S - Tough to get a read even after letting it warm. Some Dark fruits, smokey aroma, molasses or caramel.

T - Lots going on to the taste. Mild hops, caramel, some sweetness possibly a hint of vanilla? A slight smokey burn aftertaste but just right, not too much.

M - Creamy, swishy, velvety, feels great.

O - My second CC beer. While the nose was tough to pick up, everything else was great. Very good and a memorable red ale.

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Photo of TheFightfan1
3.87/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a nice semi-clear ruby color. Nice thicker white heading with some great lacing. Some particulates left over while pouring the second half of the bottle.

Nice sweet caramel aroma pulling through here to start things off. Nice bit of hops settle in behind the sweeter caramel wall along with a decent cedar wood finish. Very nice.

This was a tad of a let down. After a big build up in the nose this didn't seem to capitalize on the bigger hoppy notes that I initially smelled. Crisp and malty but no big hop bite that I have grown accustomed to in this style.

Mouth was kind of the same thing. A little thin a little watery but was smooth. Slight buttery slickness in the mouth the left a film. Good carbonation.

Not a bad offering at all.

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Photo of baconbourbon
4.21/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Tocobaga: bottle
Appearance: Very dark amber with a nicely sustainable head and excellent lacing.

Smell: A light piny aroma. The smell is not too strong or overpowering. That is always a plus for me.

Taste: Spicy up front, followed by notes of malt and caramel. The caramel is extremely prominent in the finish.

Mouth feel: There is a slight bubbly feeling from the carbonation, but other than that it goes down very smoothly.

Overall: I love a good red ale, and this beer is exactly that. This beer is incredibly well balanced, and very drinkable. I just polished off this 750ml by myself and I would not mind having a bit more.

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Photo of JayS2629
4.05/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured a deep red with a creamy white head that faded slowly but left minimal lacing.

The aroma was of toast, nutty notes, and rich caramel with orange zest and grapefruit notes.

Simple, but complex. An oxymoron of making harmony of some clashing elements. Hints of spice in the back of big caramel, apples, and citrus. Nice balance.

Medium bodied and smooth.

Overall, very good, complex and interesting. Wouldn't drink a lot.

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Photo of socon67
3.8/5  rDev -8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours amber with a tan foam that lingers. Minimal lacing however.

S - Scents of citrus, and caramel. Kinda like a caramel apple. Funky, but relatively faint.

T - I like that this has some complex layers of flavor. Spicy, malty, and a touch of fruit sugars. It is tame, and I don't know if I like that it isn't just another in your face amber, or if I would like a more robust beer.

M - Extremely drinkable and smooth. Perfect for just about anytime you want a beer. Carbonation is soft, robust body yet not too heavy, and easy on the taste buds.

O - Another solid offering from CCB. This is a good change of pace and an example of subtle characteristics making a good beer.

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Tocobaga Red Ale from Cigar City Brewing
92 out of 100 based on 224 ratings.