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Either - Cigar City Brewing

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88
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112 Reviews
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Reviews: 112
Hads: 164
rAvg: 3.96
pDev: 7.83%
Wants: 21
Gots: 31 | FT: 1
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Cigar City Brewing visit their website
Florida, United States

Style | ABV
American Black Ale |  11.20% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: CampusCrew on 11-12-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Skrip
4.36/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle poured into a Hill Farmstead oversized wine glass.

A~ pitch black, tiny tan head, and a little bit of lacing.

S~ tons of dark roasted malts followed by citrusy, earthy hops. theres also a little caramel and molasses lingering.

T~ i'm so surprised that theres still a decent hop presence for how old this is! other than the roasted malts and hops, theres a lot of honey sweetness and a little bit of burnt coffee as well.

M~ drinks like a stout, tastes like an IPA! i'll blame that on the honey, it definitely adds a nice thickness making this brew extremely unique! other than that, nice carbonation despite its appearance.

O~ if you're wondering why i'm reviewing this, it is in fact an HF/Grassroots colab. haha! and a really good one at that! i must get my hands on Or now to see how they compare. i'm a little late for the ones that were actually brewed in VT at this point but thats quite alright cause this actually blew me away a little bit. still worth a shot if you have one around! (1,009 characters)

Photo of jaasen64
3.65/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12oz bottle poured into taster glass, about a 4oz pour.

A- Pours a dark brown, almost black with fairly little head and spotty lacing.

S- Licorice, slight dark chocolate, some cedar, hops pretty faded. Average aroma strength, decently pleasant.

T- Licorice, honey, light dark chocolate, some honey, hints of cedar, roasted malt on the finish along with some booze. Flavorful but a bit too boozy, hops have definitely faded.

M- Medium bodied to a little bit fuller then usual, smooth for abv with a little bit of a kick, decent carbonation.

O- This was a decent black ale for having been released ~3 years ago. The hops have without a doubt pretty much faded completely but the other flavors are still there. In my opinion it was a little bit too boozy and definitely does not need to be over 11%. I would have loved to have tried this fresh as I think the hops would have hid the booze a little bit more. (909 characters)

Photo of warnerry
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Notes from June 2012; tasted side by side with CCB Or

A Pours black with almost no head, just a thin cap.

S - Smells of sweet chocolate, lots of roasted malt, a bit of char, some cedar, but less than I got from CCB Or. Some booze in the aroma. Pretty good overall.

T - Similar to smell, but maybe a bit sweeter. there is a hop presence, but it is quite subtle. Definitely a bit sweeter than Or. Also a bit hot still, but pretty tasty.

M - Full mouthfeel that finishes quite dry with a lingering cedar taste.

O - Tasty, even if the hops have really faded at this point. I enjoyed this more than Or. (602 characters)

Photo of Immortale25
4.37/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Was so stoked to find this behind the shelf at a local convenience store! Didn't think I'd ever get to try this. Poured into a Dogfish signature snifter. No freshness date.

A- Pours a black color that's entirely opaque with a dark tan 1/2 inch head that lingers a bit before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and bubbly surface foam. Spotty lacing.

S- Full of roast and some oak. Has a mild aroma of oxidation but the coffee/licorice/molasses depth overrides most of the signs of age...not to mention the very apparent presence of alcohol.

T- A bit hot and sweet with a bourbon tinge. More roast from the malt plus some creaminess. Molasses sticks out again. The alcohol is felt in the back of the throat after multiple sips as the aftertaste makes chocolate come to mind. Bitter, but not in a hoppy kind of way. More like the sweetness of a barleywine with more emphasis on the malt character (due to the ty ty honey I guess?).

M- Creamy in the feel as well. Plenty of alcohol twang to make you sit up in your seat. Low carbonation was expected since I'm pretty sure this bottle is at least a year old, probably two.

O- Success. Not only was this a very sought after brew for yours truly, but it also ended up surpassing my expectations making this well worth the $9 +tax I paid for this bad boy. Deep, complex and strong. A sipper for sure and one hell of a night cap. Cheers. (1,400 characters)

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.5/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into a Hunahpu snifter.

Appearance - Pours an inky black with almost no head. A collar of khaki foam. Leggy as I swirl it.

Smell - Molasses all over. A fair bit of cedar. Just a little bit of the hop profile left in this.

Taste - Molasses again is the dominant flavor. The hop flavor is mostly gone in the front, but there's a sustained bitterness throughout. The cedar becomes more prominent and a little bit oppressive. Bitter finish. Boozy, too.

Mouthfeel - Boozy and bitter. The cedar lingers. Not like a Humidor beer, but still pretty influential.

Overall - Aged has dulled the hops in this, but the other flavors are still nice. Very boozy still, but a nice blend. Even when this was fresh, it was much more towards the stout end of the Black IPA spectrum. (788 characters)

Photo of RblWthACoz
4.05/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is just slightly hot at first. Real nice berry and spicy tones, with the berry and sweetness with it showing most. Real smooth feel. If the alcohol were a bit less noticeable it would be easier to take on. Still nice though. The Or wins, in my book. (254 characters)

Photo of kylehay2004
4.09/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Single finger tan head on a jet black body. Aroma is very strong with vanilla, cinnamon, oak, bourbon, roasted malt and chocolate all prevalent. The malt is less apparent with bourbon, coffee, vanilla, chocolate and some mint notes dominating. full bodied, smooth and moderate carbonation. Complex and strongly flavored with the hops fairly mild and almost noncontributory to the flavor. (387 characters)

Photo of silentjay
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

reviewed from notes about a week ago.

pours a brown tinted black with very little head, but leaves lots of lacing.

lots of pine, leafy hops (mint leaf, some tobacco, some herbal) a bit of citrus, and plenty of roasted malts.

some peppercorn (freshly cracked) comes through surprisingly. odd, but not unpleasant. Piney grassy, mint-leaf hops added to the dark malts that stick subtly behind that, though they make their presence felt.

almost full-bodied with average carbonation and a slight resin left on the finish.

a well-balanced black ale that brings in some unique hop flavors to add to the roasted malt flavors. very nice collab. (641 characters)

Photo of cosmicevan
4.45/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

thanks to G311 and biglobo8971 for this one.

a - opened the bottle and filled the ccb snifter. poured a golden crisp brownish black that settled with a really attractive shine. thin fizzy head that was gone quick. very stout looking.

s - nutmeg and roasted malts with a blast of vanilla and wood. the honey is there as well. smells like a big stout.

t - nice hoppy black ale. great strong ale notes and flavoring...grapes, mmmm. there is a good enough amount of roasted malts and bittery chocolate to offset the hops and make for a tasty beer. i'm not a huge fan of this style, but this one is pretty good.

m - big and bold...finishes a bit bitter and leaves a tingle.

o - overall i dug this one...a lot. great roasted malt and superb balance with the hops. cannot wait to try the OR when i finish this one. i think that it is misclassified. this...to me...is a strong ale and a kick ass one at that. (905 characters)

Photo of Molson2000
4.22/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Duvel tulip glass. Big plum raisin aroma. First sip gives a nice creamy mouth feel, aroma of chocolate and coffee come through, taste is mildly bitter with coffee and chocolate. Alcohol is fairly well hidden. A very good sipper, make it last. (256 characters)

Photo of zaphodchak
3.83/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A one ounce taste into a snifter. No head. Opaque black body.

Smell is powerful, from a distance. The wood is evident, slightly boozy, anything else specific is hard to put a name to, but still good. Kinda steely.

Taste is pretty strong, a bit of soy and some nut on the finish. Bitter aftertaste. Roasty malt presence in the middle.

Thinnish mouthfeel. Not sure if something else would be more appropriate, but there it is.

Decent, interesting, but not off the wall or outstanding. (486 characters)

Photo of mdaschaf
3.55/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Review from notes. Drank side by side with Or.

A: Pours a very dark brown, almost black color with a small tan head with decent retention. Better retention than Or for sure. Not much lacing.

S: Rather malt forward, not much in the way of hops in the aroma. It is very sweet with some detectable honey and a slight roast aroma.

T: Again, rather sweet, with a nice level of roasty malt and a bit of chocolate. Not much hop presence here, unlike in Or.

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. ABV hidden very well.

O: A decent ABA, but it was a lacking the hop bitterness/pine/citrus that I like see in beers of this style. (629 characters)

Photo of Mess
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cellared but been chilled past few months waiting for this evening. Poured into an Allagash stemmed vessel.

A - Deep, dark brown with a tight, even dark wheat-colored head.

S - Floral hops and spicy and inviting cedar closet. Fresh cracked pepper. Slightly medicinal.

T - rich malt, soft and even bitterness, woody cedar and juniper.

M - Oily, glides across the palate with soft carbonation.

O - tasty, beautiful bitterness over soft, sweet malt. Really not a bad beer. Curious of the exact differnces b/t Either and Or, which I enjoyed a lot more. (553 characters)

Photo of ffejherb
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle poured into a Cigar City snifter and shared with brewslut on 8/31/11.

A - Poured an oily black liquid with a finger's worth of creamy burnt tan foam that diminished to a swirly patch, leaving behind stripes and polka-dotted lace around the glass.

S - Bold notes of soy sauce, tobacco, tar, molasses and cedar wood leap out of the glass right off the bat, giving the aroma quite a complex character. Hops are quite leafy and herbal, giving the nose a dry, spicy kick.

T - Dark, menacing and hoppy, Either delivers a complex flavor profile that centers around the spicy bite of cedar wood, which ultimately dominates the flavor. With that said, there is plenty going on here. Chocolate, coffee and tobacco weigh in, giving the flavor tons of depth. Finishes sweet with a spicy cedar kick and dry, leafy and earthy hop bitterness.

M - Oily, viscous and warm with smooth carbonation at first but then pricks the tongue repeatedly, giving the mouthfeel a bristly quality. finishes with dry, moderate lingering bitterness and some alcohol heat on the palate with sticky hop residue around the lips.

D - Bold, intense and brimming with complexities, Either is a pretty damn tasty concoction. I really dig the cedar wood attributes of this beer. That said, sharing this 12oz. bottle was enough for one sitting. This is a sipper, for sure! (1,349 characters)

Photo of JayS2629
3.65/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

It pours a dark brown, almost black with a fizzy white head, fast fade, and spotty lace.

Aroma is of coffee, licorice, and faint dark chocolate with earthy elements of hop.

The taste follows with earthy elements peeking through a coffee, roasted malt, and hint of smoke. Faint chocolate notes linger in the aftertaste.

A little thin and overcarbonated.

Overall, very drinkable and interesting. (397 characters)

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.2/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Cigar City Either

Pours a midnight black with a dark brown head. Aroma of roasted malt, some coffee, peat and alcohol. Very nice robust flavor, resembling an imperial schwarzbier. Black malts, peat, coffee and just a hint of smoke in the flavor. Alittle alcohol makes itself known but it's not as big as the beer really is. Full bodied feel, smooth and good level of carbonation. Overall, this is an impressive black ale that I will be having again.

Revisited, aged 1 year.

Pours a deep dark black color, off white soapy foam, lots of lacing. Aroma of roasted malts, coffee, hops and alcohol. In the taste, nice roasted malt, fruity, citrusy hops and some alcohol. Really bright hop character, some dark fruits from the yeast and robust roasted malts. A touch nutty, with more black coffee, fruits and pine. Mouthfeel is full bodied and viscous. Overall, a really complex, tasty sipper from Cigar City. This one had alittle age on it and was still drinking fine. (965 characters)

Photo of ShanePB
3.38/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Side-by-side tasting with both Either and Or, with Nick. Poured into a 5 ounce sample glass.

A: Deep dark brown but not quite black body. A rich and creamy mocha colored head comes to life on this one, as opposed to its counterpart beer. Some sticky little splotches of lacing are left, as well as a thin bubbly film across the surface.

S: Huge, bold and rich malts are the obvious focus of the aroma. Chocolate and roasted malts, sweet honey, caramel and a hint of citrus peel towards the end. Any addition of hops in this beer seem to be lost, something which it is in desperate need of. There's no "cut" in the aroma - very linear and boring.

T: Evidence of the sweet maltiness of the beer comes through on first sip. Sweet honey, molasses, caramel and some bittersweet bakers chocolate consume the entire profile. The essence of the malts stay put throughout the entire front to back palate, and like the aroma have nothing else to help break it up. I would have liked even the faintest hop bite to come through for some diversity in the flavor profile.

M: Medium-bodied, quite bubbly though perhaps a bit more mellow than the Or. A bit creamy but it works for being such a malt-forward beer although a bit more would have been good.

Clearly for me the Or is the better beer of the two. Either simply had too much of a malt presence with not enough layers to help save it from becoming too much of the same. Not to mention if the recipe is eerily similar, something went quite wrong with Either. (1,504 characters)

Photo of yourefragile
3.43/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle served in a snifter. Side-by-side with Either

Chocolate black with a quickly dissipating mocha head. Settles with a foamy crown and no lacing. Aroma is stout-like, rich roast and chocolate malt with some light citrus and solvency booze. Much less hoppy, citrus and woody than Or. Full, thick body, mild carbonation and a strong warming, boozy finish. Roast malt, anise, licorice and mild cedar are present throughout the body with most of the hops having faded away. Unfortunately, the heat and booze are still nearly as strong as this was fresh. Either is still a little rougher than Or is at this point and doesn't have as much of a hop or wood presence as Or. (676 characters)

Photo of mayastack
4.17/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A little hot, but goes down very easy for an 11 percent beer. If you like the the Dogfish Bitches Brew, this is kinda like a Bitches Brew on steroids. Complex, roasty flavor, with a distinct touch of honey. Unique and enjoyable, but not for the feint of heart! (260 characters)

Photo of jmdrpi
4.03/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz, no date. drank side by side with the Or.

black, with khaki colored head. nice head retention and lacing. aroma is a mixture of roasty, sweetness, and strong hops. similar taste as the smell, piney hops dominate and linger in the aftertaste. some vanilla flavor. body is thick, more like a stout. moderate carbonation.

overall, the body makes it closer to a hoppy stout than a black IPA. by comparison, not quite as smooth as the Or. (443 characters)

Photo of Jayli
3.78/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Acquired from SamuelJackson45 via LOKO for Locals BIF so a big THANK YOU goes out to him!
Poured in to a pint glass

A: This beer pours a thick, opaque black with a 1.2 inch of medium brown head. Head recedes to a film that holds and leaves wispy chunks of lacing.

S: Nose is very sweet at first, before roasted, charred and bitter chocolate notes come in. A slight hint of citrus hop.

T: Taste is - holy crap, if I didn't know better, I would have pegged this for a stout. Sweet caramel malts at first sip. Charred and roasted notes come through. A big dosing of bitter bakers chocolate come in with a raisin and date flavoring, a bit of grassiness comes in as well as the beer warms. Finish is more charred notes with a bit of grapefruit hop bite on the back of the tongue. First sip gave a bit of alcohol warming.

M: Full body, high carbonation, tick, rich and creamy body.

O: Goes down pretty easy, tasty, filling, big kick, not a good representation of style though. Overall, I really enjoyed this beer, but this is a stout in my book not an American Black Ale. I'm not knocking it too much as it was a tasty beer. (1,124 characters)

Photo of adam42381
4.15/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from an 12 ounce bottle into a Spiegelau tulip. Purchased along with Either at Cigar City Brewing taproom on 11/20/10.

Appearance: Pours a coffee black color with a 1finger foamy tan head consisting of tiny carbonation bubbles. Excellent lacing.

Smell: Piney hops, sweet roasted malt and a touch of molasses.

Taste: Pine dominates up front then sweet malt and a cedar and white pepper in the middle before ending with toasted malt and burnt toast at the finish. Aftertaste is a mix of burnt toast and hoppy bitterness.

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied with a fairly high amount of carbonation. Goes down smooth.

Drinkability: Good drinkability. This is a sipper due to the high ABV%, but you won't have any trouble finishing it off in the least.

Overall: Very good beer overall. I actually liked this a little better than Or, which may be due to the fact that a little age has taken some of the bite off it. Another strong offering from Cigar City. (951 characters)

Photo of ktrillionaire
4.2/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

[From backlog]

On-tap at the brewery during the release. For the record: between Either and Or, I choose Or.

A - The brew pours with the look of a black IPA, replete with evident effervescence and a billowing off-white head; much lace is deposited.

S - The nose strikes me as slightly sweet and malty initially, but this is quickly overtaken by roasted tones ranging from coffee to burnt toast. There is also a strongly bitter grassy-wildflower hop from start-to-finish and some honey-floral notes as warms up.

T - Themes introduced by the nose are continued on the palate, especially a burnt molasses maltiness with an additional note of anise-licorice. There is a bitter evergreen-spruce nuance that seems to be smoothed out by floral-honey on finish.

M - The feel is quite thick, especially for a black IPA/CDA. Feels like a Barleywine.

D - This is definitely less drinkable than its brethren 'Or', owing to its Barleywine-like nature and its heavier roast character. Still quite good. (995 characters)

Photo of BarrytheBear
4.22/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Debated, discussed, and generally enjoyed with steepH20, courtesy of urwithdave. Thanks Dave!

Black with a crimson hue. No lacing.

Cedar, black patent malt, baker's chocolate, and lingering smoke.

Oodles and oodles of my parent's basement closet sans the mothballs. Humidor driven dark maltiness with a smattering of coy hops poking their timid mugs around ye old cedar tree.

Nearly full bodied, fairly carbonated, and slightly thick.

Beer shined best when given some space, like a moody roommate. Cigar City once again tends to bend styles to where it becomes difficult to review. Kicks most black ipa's/cascadians to the curb. But is this a real representation of the style? Unsure, but I like what's here. (715 characters)

Photo of billshmeinke
3.43/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Review from old notes.

Black with a one finger khaki head. Decent retention, not too much lacing.

Some coffee and chocolate notes with a really strong cereal/grainy fragrance.

Some dark fruits (raisins mostly) baker's chocolate, a hint of coffee with green/herbal/earthy hops to add some bitterness.

Full boddied, fairly decently carbonated.

Well, at least the alcohol was well hidden. (390 characters)

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Either from Cigar City Brewing
88 out of 100 based on 112 ratings.