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Either - Cigar City Brewing

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BA SCORE
88
very good

164 Ratings
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Ratings: 164
Reviews: 112
rAvg: 3.95
pDev: 12.15%
Wants: 21
Gots: 32 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Cigar City Brewing visit their website
Florida, United States

Style | ABV
American Black Ale |  11.20% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: CampusCrew on 11-12-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 164 | Reviews: 112
Reviews by PeprSprYoFace:
Photo of PeprSprYoFace
4.35/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I honestly don't know why people are rating this beer so low. I think it's awesome and I might trade for more.

Pours a deep heavy stout black. Very thin head. Dissipated to a ring. Little bit of lacing.

Aroma smells oaky and hoppy and sticky sweet roast stout. I think is smells great. Could use a little more aroma though.

Taste is great. I think it's similar to night stalker. Little less hoppy though. It's nice and roasty. Little bit of sweetness with caramel and toasted sugars. Slight hint of dark fruits. The oak is nice. The hops work well in this beer.

Mouthfeel is slightly too thick but it's actually pretty drinkable.

Again I don't know what all the hate here is but this beer is great. Either and Or seem to be the same beer to me. I'll have to open Or right now too and compare them. I'll be trading for more of this.

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Photo of TCHopCraver
3.97/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Tasted on 2/18/11 in a back-to-back with Or. I believe zoso1967 supplied Either and TCGoalie supplied Or. Cheers, as always, boys!

Either appears awfully dark and awfully wet out of the bottle. Seriously, the color is a dark brown, almost fully black and is opaque. Some red tints show through at the edges. The head is a light brown and does not reach much of a height as the bottle was split three ways. Lacing left behind is dainty and dotty.

The aroma of Either is quite woody and sweet. I detect scents of caramel and brown sugar, along with a small influence of cinnamon. The more I smell, the spicier it seems. I also pick up some notes of milk chocolate in the bouquet, but those are pretty far in the background. The smell is also a little roasty, but the overriding factor is sweet, spicy wood.

The flavor is very intriguing. The cedar wood is prominent throughout and really shows its mettle at the finish. However, the overall character is that of sweet, thick malt. There is also a little roastiness in the flavor, which is complemented by spicy notes of cinnamon and clove.

The feel in mouth is medium-bodied, but with a lot of bite from the cedar and hop combination. The body is a bit too syrupy and sticky for me. The carbonation fits the body and flavor nicely.

Well, I only had four ounces of Either and it was probably just enough for me. It was a good one-time novelty drink, but I don't think I would return to this over time. I thought the cedar influence was a little too aggressive and that the beer was a tad too sweet. I'm not sure just how fresh this bottle was... I might have been more impressed if it was just a tad fresher.

Photo of lordofthewiens
3.85/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

In a snifter this beer was a nearly black color with a cocoa-colored head. A little bit of lace.
Roasted malt aroma. Fairly sweet. Vanilla and alcohol also.
The sweetness came through as a more definitive taste of honey. Some coffee, a little bit of chocolate. Alcohol was definitely noticeable.
A little on the hot side.
With the high ABV, one of these was enough. I'd like it a little less boozy.

Photo of warnerry
3.95/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Notes from June 2012; tasted side by side with CCB Or

A Pours black with almost no head, just a thin cap.

S - Smells of sweet chocolate, lots of roasted malt, a bit of char, some cedar, but less than I got from CCB Or. Some booze in the aroma. Pretty good overall.

T - Similar to smell, but maybe a bit sweeter. there is a hop presence, but it is quite subtle. Definitely a bit sweeter than Or. Also a bit hot still, but pretty tasty.

M - Full mouthfeel that finishes quite dry with a lingering cedar taste.

O - Tasty, even if the hops have really faded at this point. I enjoyed this more than Or.

Photo of kingcrowing
3.89/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a Duvel tulip.

Pours a syrupy, engine oil pitch black, with a nice thin dark brown head that slowly appears and then fades. The nose is juicy, sweet, fresh and hoppy, lots of tropical fruit flavors - quite odd coming from something so thick and dark.

Damn it. The taste is grainy. I don't know why 95% of these Black IPAs have that taste, it's very homebrewy and it covers up so much of the hop flavors. Other than that, this has got a good sharp bitterness with a bit of roastiness and dark chocolate.

Mouthfeel is good, rich and creamy, although a bit sharp. Drinkability is hit by that graininess.

Photo of mondegreen
4.25/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz into a Founder's Tulip. Served alongside Or.

A pours black with a one finger light tan head.

Nose is slightly sweet with a nice blend of bitter hop aroma and spicy wood.

Taste is a nice balance of dark roasted sweetness, moderately bitter hops, and peppery cedar wood. Finish is a long lingering cedar note. I like.

Medium full mouth. Very nice.

I like this beer alot. A very cool take on the American Black Ale.

Photo of glid02
4.57/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Bottle.

Pours a dark brown color with a half-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of dark and bready malts with solid amounts of pine, spicy, and herbal hop notes - in that order. Also present are hints of dark molasses and brighter citrus hops, the latter intensifying as the beer warms.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Dark malt flavors with hints of roastiness kick things off and are joined quickly by spicy and light pine hops. The malt flavors are beefed up midway through the sip with slight bready flavors and are sweetened by hints of heavy molasses. Near the end of the sip the hops lighten and hints of citrus and cedar make an appearance. The cedar, molasses, dark malt, and pine flavors carry through to a solidly bitter ending. Hints of tobacco linger on the palate after the sip.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a heavy thickness with grainy carbonation.

Drinkability is great. I finished my glass very quickly and could drink a lot of these trying to figure out everything that was in there.

Overall I was very impressed with this beer. The cedar had a lighter influence than in many of CCB's offerings and the malt complexity was great. Additionally, the hint of tobacco on the back end made an appearance, something of which I'm a fan. If you still have the opportunity to buy this beer I highly recommend doing so, well worth the shot. For those not a fan of CDAs I could make the argument that it's closer to an Old Ale than anything.

Photo of mdaschaf
3.55/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Review from notes. Drank side by side with Or.

A: Pours a very dark brown, almost black color with a small tan head with decent retention. Better retention than Or for sure. Not much lacing.

S: Rather malt forward, not much in the way of hops in the aroma. It is very sweet with some detectable honey and a slight roast aroma.

T: Again, rather sweet, with a nice level of roasty malt and a bit of chocolate. Not much hop presence here, unlike in Or.

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. ABV hidden very well.

O: A decent ABA, but it was a lacking the hop bitterness/pine/citrus that I like see in beers of this style.

Photo of mayastack
4.17/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A little hot, but goes down very easy for an 11 percent beer. If you like the the Dogfish Bitches Brew, this is kinda like a Bitches Brew on steroids. Complex, roasty flavor, with a distinct touch of honey. Unique and enjoyable, but not for the feint of heart!

Photo of Stigs
4.17/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, graciously added to a box from a trade with BA'er infestaxion...also included an "Or", didnt know which to open first, thanks bud! served in a 12oz elevated tulip glass.

A - pours with almost half an inch of very tight, creamy dark khaki colored foam. the beer is pitch black all around the glass. eventually settles to a foamy ring and light film. some random, wet spots of lace linger around the glass.

S - very dark roasted malts, dark figs and berries, coffee, roasted nuts, and vanilla sweetness. hops struggle to make their way through all of this, but come out with a slight twinge of citrus and earthiness.

T - begins with a very potent sweetness: the dark fruits, toasted nuts, and vanilla really stand out at first before being cut into sharply by both earthy hops, and a big dose of booze. alcohol leans towards rum. bits of very strong, burnt coffee appear towards the end, alongside dark chocolate and honey. lingers with some vaguely citrus, massively earthy hops, and a mess of booze and sweetness.

M - very, very thick and luscious body. carbonation is nice and moderate-low, yet present, propelling the flavors while cutting through the alcohol a bit. still a big, hearty alcohol burn from the lips, through the mouth and down the throat. lingering dryness from the abundant sweetness.

D - a very good beer, just a bit...ok maybe a mile outside of the style specification. belongs more in the American Strong Ale section, as all the sweetness and malt flavors muddle the hop-forwardness that it "should" be. still - a bit dangerous at such a high ABV, as it is very yummy.

Photo of zaphodchak
3.83/5  rDev -3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A one ounce taste into a snifter. No head. Opaque black body.

Smell is powerful, from a distance. The wood is evident, slightly boozy, anything else specific is hard to put a name to, but still good. Kinda steely.

Taste is pretty strong, a bit of soy and some nut on the finish. Bitter aftertaste. Roasty malt presence in the middle.

Thinnish mouthfeel. Not sure if something else would be more appropriate, but there it is.

Decent, interesting, but not off the wall or outstanding.

Photo of cjgator3
4.02/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle 

A- Sampled alongside "Or". Poured into a Cigar City snifter. Pours a dark black color with a light tan head. Not as much head and lacing as "Or".

S- The aroma is pretty similar to a black IPA. Dark malts with some roastiness and hops. Compared to "Or", "Either" is a little more sweet and malty with less of a hop presence in the nose.

T- The taste starts out with delicious roasted malts  up front. Quickly, the hops make their presence and linger well into the finish. The finish is rounded out with a lingering warmth from the alcohol.

M- The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation. Spot on.

D- Overall, I really enjoyed sampling Either/Or in the same sitting. They are very similar but the hop profile is the main difference. I have to give the nod to "Or" as my favorite of the two.

Photo of WholeFoodsDerek
4.25/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a glass.

A - Black in color, this bad boy looks like an imperial stout, but don't be mistaken.

S - The spanish cedar is prevalent, which I am glad because it reminds me of their humidor IPA. Also getting some toasted malts and hops.

T - Lots of complexity. You get a sweetness as in barley-wines provide with the high alcohol, although it isn't an unbearable amount of heat on the palate. There is also the bitterness from the hops, and subtle spanish cedar. This is packed with flavors that uniquely bring together several flavors of different beer genres into one.

M - Lightly silky, medium bodied, bittersweet.

D - One or two at most.

Overall - a unique, powerful, and bold beer.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.5/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into a Hunahpu snifter.

Appearance - Pours an inky black with almost no head. A collar of khaki foam. Leggy as I swirl it.

Smell - Molasses all over. A fair bit of cedar. Just a little bit of the hop profile left in this.

Taste - Molasses again is the dominant flavor. The hop flavor is mostly gone in the front, but there's a sustained bitterness throughout. The cedar becomes more prominent and a little bit oppressive. Bitter finish. Boozy, too.

Mouthfeel - Boozy and bitter. The cedar lingers. Not like a Humidor beer, but still pretty influential.

Overall - Aged has dulled the hops in this, but the other flavors are still nice. Very boozy still, but a nice blend. Even when this was fresh, it was much more towards the stout end of the Black IPA spectrum.

Photo of hdelavega
3.94/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured 6oz from a 12oz bottle to a delirium snifter split with a non-BA who is enjoying it.

Pitch black with a thin beige head.

The nose is rich with toffe and malt, there are also some bready notes. There is a strange sweetness that reminds me of the smell of cat food.

The taste is surprisingly mild for the color and nose. Side note this is my first america black ale. There is a nice honey flavor, and a slight taste of bitter hops.

The mouthefeel is realy smooth, with a slight creaminess. The carbonation is light and the finish is warming with a tinge of bitterness.

Overall I like it, I don't really know much about American black ales, I have part two "Or" in the fridge now so I will try it next.

Photo of thagr81us
4.15/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks goes out to Jefe73 for this as an extra in a recent trade. Served from bottle into a Stone nonic. Poured pitch black with a one and a half finger tan head that subsided to a half finger very slowly. Maintained nice lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of roasted malt, chocolate, and bitter hops. The flavor was of sweet malt, roasted malt, chocolate, bitter hops, and slight alcohol. It had a heavy feel on the palate with mild carbonation. Overall this was a pretty nice brew. The flavor was very well balanced with the sweetness from the chocolate and the bitterness from the hops. The hop flavor was also quite nice and not palate invasive. This one is a must try for sure!

Photo of aepb1
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Pitch black body with a creamy dark head and good lacing with the head dissipating to a little cap

S- Sweet floral smell, some woodiness, some hops

T- Wood and sweet fruits hit up front. Some coffee bitterness finish. No real balance, goes from big sweet to big bitter finish with no in between

M- Full-bodied and sweet stickiness

D- Looking forward to "Or" but this one is good

Photo of smakawhat
4.47/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

10oz pour from the bottle given at Church Key DC into a tumbler.

Small head was created with and off tan color sitting on a dark walnut body. It looked good and had staying power, that's about unfortunately all I can say.

Smell though is very impressive. Cola sweets, and sweet clove spices with roasts. Woah this is really unusual for a black ale this feels like a stout or something, but bursting with sweetness. Almost very confusing, but boy do I dig it.

Taste at first is a big fascinating silky sensation that punches you in the face. I can describe this as cola roast, and then faint hints of citrus grapefruit oil that is tolerable on the finish. No carbonation, and this borderline silky feel between and IPA and a stout.

This is like some crazy stout IPA hybrid or something it is really fascinating drinking here. Really impressed by this and very abv masked.

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.8/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ditmier busted Either and Or out at a recent tasting... Thanks Eric.. very cool to try these side by side... but honestly, I couldn't tell too much of a difference... "Or" seemed to be a tad hoppier.

Thin dark tan head.. very clear ... dark walnut.. verging on black but clarity is so nice it never reaches that point, and that is okay.

nose has abundant citrus hops.. cedar is pretty prevalent and starting to be unmistakable in their appropriate brews.

Flavor is big and bitter up front... both from the hops and a bit of roasty malt astringencies.... a bit of malt sweetness mid palate plays well and ties the hops well to the dark malt flavors.. a bit of chocolate... and a touch too much char for my palate... plenty of distracting cedar notes from front to back and really lingering on the finish... and don't, at least for me, add plus points to the overall brew.

Nice medium+ on the body with a good lush small bubble carbonation.

Pretty nice.. but honestly, the wood is a distraction to me in an otherwise well made beer... it adds complexities, but seems like a novelty in a brew that is supposed to be highliting so much stuff including bright hoppy flavors.

4/4/3.5/4/4

Thanks again Eric... I truly appreciate these ones.

Photo of FeDUBBELFIST
4.21/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

From bottle to wine glass, poured side by side with "Or." "Either" is part 1 of 2 in the collaboration between Cigar City, Grassroots Brewing (Denmark) & Hill Farmstead. Both beers are brewed at CCB.

$10.75 for the 12oz bottle.

A: Half of a finger of medium-dark brown head is produced on the pour and fizzes out rather quickly. The body is the darkest brown imaginable with tawny tints along the top edges of the glass. Lacing is spare.

S: Heavily malted, this brew has deep roasted aromas of molasses and pumpernickel bread. The hop bill is big too with a fresh pine wood scent mixed in with other citrusy notes. It seems that, what would normally be considered huge hop aromas, are actually just big hop aromas that are being elevated by the toasted Spanish cedar, something that Cigar City does very well. This combination is strong and brings in a light acetone character. Leather, dank earth and mushrooms come to mind as the contributing yeast qualities.

T: From nose to mouth, Either is relatively consistent. The cedar and hops remain at the front while not exactly pushing the malts out of the way. Flavors of tar and sasparilla add to the appeal. The monstrous ABV is integrated rather than concealed. General sweetness is evident, but I think it is more of a result of the fermentable sugars than the Ty Ty* honey which, in my mind, has a greater impact on the mouthfeel than anything else.

M: Either has a more supple mouthfeel than it's counterpart. The body is medium full, slick and creamy. A big hop bitterness comes through at the finish which is more than likely accentuated by the dryness that the honey provides.

D: Above average drinkability, all things considered. An inventive, very bold and assertive brew with an addictive nose and great flavor. I didn't have any trouble finishing the 24 ounce side by side for comparison's sake. Both beers are fantastic, but I think Either is the runner up here.

*Ty Ty honey comes from a native American chestnut tree that is said to produce large, honey sweet kernels of unparalleled taste and quality.

Photo of jsanford
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

120z bottle poured into a Cigar City snifter. Brewed with Ty Ty Honey and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Drank right before Or.

A - Pours black with brown highlights and a thin khaki-colored head that dissipates to a slight haze and thin ring.
S - Honey, hops, and dark chocolate with a definite Cedar quality to it. CC never ceases to amaze me with their use of Cedar, it's such an unusual aroma/flavor in a beer. Slight wafts of booze in the finish. Very Stout-y.
T - Incredibly roasty, huge flavors of dark malt, chocolate, and coffee beans. The cedar is not as prevalent as I'd hoped, but the honey makes a big splash in the finish, can definitely taste the added sweetness. Hops are fairly noticeable, but the malt overshadows it a bit. Pretty smooth, still just a hint of alcohol burn in the finish.
M - Again, very Stout-like. Full-bodied with a creamy mouthfeel and low carbonation.
D - Wow, I'm surprised to see this is 11+% ABV, quite smooth and drinkable for what it is and I'm having no problem with the 12oz bottle.

Glad to have gotten to try this, the last few CC beers I had (110K Batch 3 & Cedar Jai Alai) were huge disappointments, so I was worried I'd never dig their "hoppy" beers. This one goes a long way to restore my faith. Cheers!

Photo of mikesgroove
4.15/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The pour was wonderful, black as night with a light colored head that rose up about an inch and a half before settling down into a nice broken crown that stayed throughout the session. The aroma was very bright, lots of citrus here, orange and tangerine mostly and a wonderfully bright lemon like aroma that rose up, not at all what you would have expected from something that looked so fark. Nice medium body with a smooth and mellow carbonation and a lightness to it that again was outside what I was expecting. Smooth flavor, clean, crisp, loaded with bitter citrus hops. Lots of grapefruit and pineapple here. Such a tight and very hoppy big IPA. I was very pleased with this one for sure. The alcohol was very well hidden I have to say and I was quite impressed with how smooth it came across.

Overall a really, really good beer.

Photo of Immortale25
4.37/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Was so stoked to find this behind the shelf at a local convenience store! Didn't think I'd ever get to try this. Poured into a Dogfish signature snifter. No freshness date.

A- Pours a black color that's entirely opaque with a dark tan 1/2 inch head that lingers a bit before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and bubbly surface foam. Spotty lacing.

S- Full of roast and some oak. Has a mild aroma of oxidation but the coffee/licorice/molasses depth overrides most of the signs of age...not to mention the very apparent presence of alcohol.

T- A bit hot and sweet with a bourbon tinge. More roast from the malt plus some creaminess. Molasses sticks out again. The alcohol is felt in the back of the throat after multiple sips as the aftertaste makes chocolate come to mind. Bitter, but not in a hoppy kind of way. More like the sweetness of a barleywine with more emphasis on the malt character (due to the ty ty honey I guess?).

M- Creamy in the feel as well. Plenty of alcohol twang to make you sit up in your seat. Low carbonation was expected since I'm pretty sure this bottle is at least a year old, probably two.

O- Success. Not only was this a very sought after brew for yours truly, but it also ended up surpassing my expectations making this well worth the $9 +tax I paid for this bad boy. Deep, complex and strong. A sipper for sure and one hell of a night cap. Cheers.

Photo of billyshears
4.27/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

side by side with Or.

a: black with tan head that dissipates.
s: some hops, but kinda second fiddle to the chocolate malts and dark fruits; cedar present a bit and a sweetness which I assume is from the honey.
t: more balanced, less hop driven than or. nice chocolate malt and additional sweetness, which cigar city always does well, followed by a bit of piney hop linger.
m: nice medium/full mouthfeel and high carbonation. works cause its more malt focused than or
d: I could drink a few of these.

it's a judgment call, but i think i might like this one more.. i like the malt hop interplay more on this. if you want a much more hop forward black ale, go with Or.

Photo of Axic10
3.9/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12oz bottle into a tulip.

Appearance: Pours pitch black (almost stout like) with a very thin mocha colored head that disappears quickly.

Smell: Strong aroma of honey, sweet and bitter hops and some chocolaty malt.

Taste: Chocolate, some hoppy bitterness, roasted malt and honey.

Mouthfeel: More towards the full bodied side of things and creamy.

Drinkability: Glad I got to try this beer as I'm a fan of both breweries, however I'm not sold on this, as it seemed like it wanted to be a stout more than a black IPA. Decent for what it is.

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Either from Cigar City Brewing
88 out of 100 based on 164 ratings.