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Either - Cigar City Brewing

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very good

112 Reviews
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Reviews: 112
Hads: 164
Avg: 3.95
pDev: 12.15%
Wants: 19
Gots: 31 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Cigar City Brewing visit their website
Florida, United States

Style | ABV
American Black Ale |  11.20% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: CampusCrew on 11-12-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of PorterLambic
4.8/5  rDev +21.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours nearly black with a big, slow to dissipate head the color of cocoa. Great lace results when the mound of tight foam recedes.
Smell is really well-balanced with malt standing with the hops followed with wet cardboard, fruitcake and whiskey.
Taste is amazing with rich dark fruits, whiskey, roasted malt, with hops light.
Smooth rich creamy and chewy. Full bodied with a light effervescence. This is a really, really, REALLY good beer. Wish it wasn't a one time thing. Glad the Cock and Bull had it since I missed it at Cigar City.

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Photo of brentk56
4.77/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Appearance: Pours a pitch black color with a tan blanket that leaves a smattering of lace

Smell: The honey really comes through though the dark chocolate and citrusy hops clearly dominate

Taste: The combination of the cedar and the hops produce a minty character that dominates up front, though the strength of the malt (roasty chocolate and blackstrap molasses) provides a forceful backbone; by mid-palate, the Ty Ty honey starts to add an interesting sweetness which lingers into the finish like a Bit O Honey

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: As this beer warmed, the subtleties became more apparent and, while I generally prefer my IPAs more attenuated, I started to really enjoy the complexity of the malt and, over time, grew to enjoy this more than "Or"

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Photo of youradhere
4.59/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Got in a trade with cheezedog. Thanks!

Pours impenetrably black body with soft, ample tan head that lingers and slowly falls. Very soft and fine foam that holds in aromas nicely. Smells of dark chocolate, coffee, oak, vanilla, anise, licorice, tart berry. Damn this smells wonderful. Taste is mellow, no one flavor really dominates, but if I had to pick one I'd say the chocolate dominates. An interesting and pleasant astringency is at the back and sides of the tongue, I think I'm picking up the cedar this was aged on. Could use a bit more in the middle as it seems that the beer comes out with a wall of flavor, fades, and then the pleasant astringency and chocolate comes back. Very interesting brew, I dig it for sure. Carbonation is very fine, body is medium heavy which compliments the off-sweet character of this. Very nice indeed, bravo CCB!

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Photo of glid02
4.57/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5


Pours a dark brown color with a half-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of dark and bready malts with solid amounts of pine, spicy, and herbal hop notes - in that order. Also present are hints of dark molasses and brighter citrus hops, the latter intensifying as the beer warms.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Dark malt flavors with hints of roastiness kick things off and are joined quickly by spicy and light pine hops. The malt flavors are beefed up midway through the sip with slight bready flavors and are sweetened by hints of heavy molasses. Near the end of the sip the hops lighten and hints of citrus and cedar make an appearance. The cedar, molasses, dark malt, and pine flavors carry through to a solidly bitter ending. Hints of tobacco linger on the palate after the sip.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a heavy thickness with grainy carbonation.

Drinkability is great. I finished my glass very quickly and could drink a lot of these trying to figure out everything that was in there.

Overall I was very impressed with this beer. The cedar had a lighter influence than in many of CCB's offerings and the malt complexity was great. Additionally, the hint of tobacco on the back end made an appearance, something of which I'm a fan. If you still have the opportunity to buy this beer I highly recommend doing so, well worth the shot. For those not a fan of CDAs I could make the argument that it's closer to an Old Ale than anything.

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Photo of BeerImmediately
4.52/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Didn't expect such a dark beer! This puppy pours like an imperial stout... thick, dark tan head over an opaque black body. Tons of lacing.

Aromas are unique and rich. Tons of cedar, piney hops, cocoa to chocolate sweetness... potpourri of goodness.

Wow, this is smooth - mouthfeel is like a heavy milk stout. But this pup comes loaded with citrusy hop resin, a lot more chocolate sweetness than the aroma suggests, and plenty of woodsy-cedar-ness. Finishes pretty creamy and with a nice carbonation level to cut thru the alcohol.

Drinkability is quite nice for the ABV. Kudos to all those involved in this great collaboration.

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Photo of CampusCrew
4.5/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Ok... sometimes styles get hard to describe. This one is hard. but I spoke with Joey Redner and he said Black IPA would be close. I guess imperial Black IPA..

Nice beer. honey does not stand out in either beer but the "or" beer is a little sweeter. Both are very hoppy and I think he said the "or" beer uses the hop extract where the neither doesn't. Both beers are made to the same style but have different ingriedents and intrepretations. Well.. .whatever the story is CC hits another homerun.

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Photo of smakawhat
4.47/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

10oz pour from the bottle given at Church Key DC into a tumbler.

Small head was created with and off tan color sitting on a dark walnut body. It looked good and had staying power, that's about unfortunately all I can say.

Smell though is very impressive. Cola sweets, and sweet clove spices with roasts. Woah this is really unusual for a black ale this feels like a stout or something, but bursting with sweetness. Almost very confusing, but boy do I dig it.

Taste at first is a big fascinating silky sensation that punches you in the face. I can describe this as cola roast, and then faint hints of citrus grapefruit oil that is tolerable on the finish. No carbonation, and this borderline silky feel between and IPA and a stout.

This is like some crazy stout IPA hybrid or something it is really fascinating drinking here. Really impressed by this and very abv masked.

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Photo of cosmicevan
4.45/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

thanks to G311 and biglobo8971 for this one.

a - opened the bottle and filled the ccb snifter. poured a golden crisp brownish black that settled with a really attractive shine. thin fizzy head that was gone quick. very stout looking.

s - nutmeg and roasted malts with a blast of vanilla and wood. the honey is there as well. smells like a big stout.

t - nice hoppy black ale. great strong ale notes and flavoring...grapes, mmmm. there is a good enough amount of roasted malts and bittery chocolate to offset the hops and make for a tasty beer. i'm not a huge fan of this style, but this one is pretty good.

m - big and bold...finishes a bit bitter and leaves a tingle.

o - overall i dug this one...a lot. great roasted malt and superb balance with the hops. cannot wait to try the OR when i finish this one. i think that it is misclassified. this...to me...is a strong ale and a kick ass one at that.

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Photo of kiddynamite920
4.42/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: One of the better head retentions I've seen with a Black IPA. Frothy, creamy mocha head around two fingers seems to be coming along for the ride. The beer underneath is as dark as an Imperial Stout. Just pitch black.

S: This is very lovely smelling. I get hints of cocoa and coffee, big juicy hops, a caramel sweetness and definitely a honey aroma. It's strange approaching this pitch black beer and getting sweet and juicy hop characters. Easily one of the best examples of this style that I have come across. Exactly what it should be.

T: Flavor is right on point with the nose. Big roasted malts that provide bitterness and chocolate flavors. Citrusy/piney hops that are very aggressive as well. The two ends of the spectrum are playing very well with each other. Alcohol is a bit more present but nothing overwhelming. Again, this is what I've been looking for with this style. Aggressiveness from both ends with the roast and the big hop flavor and aroma.

M: Silky smooth and almost velvety with a good drying after effect from the roasted malts. Carbonation is fairly high which provides a little sizzle with the alcohol heat. Could see this one aging quite nicely.

D: Finding this one very drinkable, impressive beer without a doubt. Great example of the style finally.

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Photo of bamadog
4.4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Wow! Thanks to sorellenator for tossing this one as an extra in a recent trade! Review is from notes taken on 11/20/2010 and poured from the bottle to a pint glass.

Appearance: Whoa - pour looks kind of thick and viscous and it's deepest, darkest brown/near black; starts with a 1 and 1/2 finger creamy, dark tan head with good retention; body is opaque; head fades to a thin, uneven cap; a few spots and strands of lacing are left holding on to the sides of the glass; I'm most impressed by how thick this beer looks, just... awesome.

Smell: Tons going on here -- lots of hops right up front that are sweet and citric in nature (grapefruit, orange); sweet syrupy chocolate; a little bit of honey; a sweet fruity presence, perhaps? Or perhaps it's the hops that are swirling around my nostrils; touch of cedar that starts to come out more as it warms.

Taste: Very unique -- the cedar is quite potent and right up front, followed by those strong and citric hops, but rather than being entirely sweet and citric, there's a touch of grassy earthiness to them; very strong malt presence that brings about a strong presence of sweet and bittersweet chocolate; definite burnt and roast coffee flavors as well; slight presence of alcohol is blended in there, but for being just over 11%, it's very well masked. Really quite outstanding

Mouthfeel: The looks on the pour are quite accurate -- this sucker is thick! Body is of a solid, medium weight; carbonation is present, but really comes across as smooth; a thick, semi-dry coating is left on the roof of the mouth; belly is left warm from the high ABV.

Drinkability: An excellent beer that rivals any Black IPA/CDA out there, but more unique with the cedar aspect that only Cigar City seems to be doing (and they make me want to experiment with it in my own homebrewing as well); it would sit a bit heavy after a while though, and the ABV is certainly too high for too much, but I will say, for what it is, it is really quit solid and definitely worth checking out.

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Photo of Immortale25
4.37/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Was so stoked to find this behind the shelf at a local convenience store! Didn't think I'd ever get to try this. Poured into a Dogfish signature snifter. No freshness date.

A- Pours a black color that's entirely opaque with a dark tan 1/2 inch head that lingers a bit before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and bubbly surface foam. Spotty lacing.

S- Full of roast and some oak. Has a mild aroma of oxidation but the coffee/licorice/molasses depth overrides most of the signs of age...not to mention the very apparent presence of alcohol.

T- A bit hot and sweet with a bourbon tinge. More roast from the malt plus some creaminess. Molasses sticks out again. The alcohol is felt in the back of the throat after multiple sips as the aftertaste makes chocolate come to mind. Bitter, but not in a hoppy kind of way. More like the sweetness of a barleywine with more emphasis on the malt character (due to the ty ty honey I guess?).

M- Creamy in the feel as well. Plenty of alcohol twang to make you sit up in your seat. Low carbonation was expected since I'm pretty sure this bottle is at least a year old, probably two.

O- Success. Not only was this a very sought after brew for yours truly, but it also ended up surpassing my expectations making this well worth the $9 +tax I paid for this bad boy. Deep, complex and strong. A sipper for sure and one hell of a night cap. Cheers.

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Photo of TCgoalie
4.37/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

As I pour this brew into a lame hotel high ball glass, I notice its black appearance. A tan head is created upon pouring but quickly dissipates to nothing. Sadly, only a bit of lacing lines the glass.

There is a good deal of sweetness in the scent. I am picking up honey, chocolate, and a bit of pine. There is also a subtle woodiness.

The taste is bold with a decent amount of sweetness matching a light amount of bitterness. The large malt body offers hints of honey, coffee, dark chocolate, wood, and a touch of oatmeal.

The mouthfeel is very much like drinking liquid chocolate or marshmallow fluff. So rich, creamy, and very full in the mouth. The aftertaste is clean aside from some lingering bitterness.

Either is amazingly drinkable considering the ABV. I would happily put a few of these away and get myself into trouble.

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Photo of Skrip
4.36/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle poured into a Hill Farmstead oversized wine glass.

A~ pitch black, tiny tan head, and a little bit of lacing.

S~ tons of dark roasted malts followed by citrusy, earthy hops. theres also a little caramel and molasses lingering.

T~ i'm so surprised that theres still a decent hop presence for how old this is! other than the roasted malts and hops, theres a lot of honey sweetness and a little bit of burnt coffee as well.

M~ drinks like a stout, tastes like an IPA! i'll blame that on the honey, it definitely adds a nice thickness making this brew extremely unique! other than that, nice carbonation despite its appearance.

O~ if you're wondering why i'm reviewing this, it is in fact an HF/Grassroots colab. haha! and a really good one at that! i must get my hands on Or now to see how they compare. i'm a little late for the ones that were actually brewed in VT at this point but thats quite alright cause this actually blew me away a little bit. still worth a shot if you have one around!

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Photo of PeprSprYoFace
4.35/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I honestly don't know why people are rating this beer so low. I think it's awesome and I might trade for more.

Pours a deep heavy stout black. Very thin head. Dissipated to a ring. Little bit of lacing.

Aroma smells oaky and hoppy and sticky sweet roast stout. I think is smells great. Could use a little more aroma though.

Taste is great. I think it's similar to night stalker. Little less hoppy though. It's nice and roasty. Little bit of sweetness with caramel and toasted sugars. Slight hint of dark fruits. The oak is nice. The hops work well in this beer.

Mouthfeel is slightly too thick but it's actually pretty drinkable.

Again I don't know what all the hate here is but this beer is great. Either and Or seem to be the same beer to me. I'll have to open Or right now too and compare them. I'll be trading for more of this.

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Photo of abuliarose
4.33/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a snifter, revealing pitch black body under a small layer of crema head. Very thick-looking with traces of lacing. Pretty promising. Smells exceptionally sweet and only slightly hoppy, but with a lot of floral aroma and a nice spicy woodiness. Very promising smells but not getting to much hop on the nose.

Tastes very sweet up front with more of a roasty, demure bitterness on the finish. The wood character comes through nicely along with an orange peel aftertaste. The sweetness is possibly honey-like but it's hard to tell. A lot more bittersweet citrus here. Tastes like the Or with much of the hops cut out. Mouthfeel is smooth and creamy with a heavier body than the black IPAs I am used to. Very drinkable but it does feel like something is missing from the flavor without as much hops. Alcohol is perhaps a little more noticeable here laced into the sweetness.

Overall it's quite nice. I think I prefer the flavor of the Or better for what it is (and I'm still not sure if it's a black IPA or more of a barleywine type thing), but I'll drink either in a pinch!

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Photo of CrellMoset
4.33/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle from the fine folks at Kingdom Spirits in Brandon, FL. Poured in to a brandy snifter.

Appearance: Pours a nearly jet ebony, pitch at the center and only faintly lighter - approaching a heavily burned sepia - around the very outer edges. The most magnificent aspect of this beer's appearance is the head, a finger and a half of dense, creamy, sticky, whipped topping, regal in consistency and amazing in retention. It manages to last quite some time, and even after it's faded in to oblivion (and it does fade in to near oblivion, leaving only a faint swirl of dusting on the surface of this one), it leaves a nicely uniform collar and a surprising amount of sticky side lacing, glittery and runny in some places but finely proportioned and splotchy in others.

Aroma: Spanish cedar is larger in the nose than in the taste, though this is unsurprising, given what I've experienced of CCB beers thus far. Sweet honey notes intermingle very interestingly with the astringent, pungent, resinous hop notes - mostly acidic, but also leafy, earthy, and a little dank.

Taste: Delicious. The malt bill on this one is a thick, chewy monster: a healthy amount of black patent gets at notes of toast, dark toffee, bittersweet chocolate (less bittersweet now that it's warmed and the honey is coming through, but definitely not milk chocolate ... more like the pure cocoa notes of bittersweet chocolate mixed with the sweetness of milk chocolate, but without the sugars being lactose in origin), and full roast coffee, but the dry, earthy, toasty astringencies are juxtaposed nicely with a faintly spicy, sweet honey addition. The aforementioned is also enhanced nicely by the hop presence on this one. A slew of hops contribute not only a healthy amount of bitterness (N.B.: I'm going to institute a 1 to 10 bitterness perceptibility scale from here on out on all my reviews, and this one gets a 7), but also a ton of earthy, spicy, tobacco- and mowed lawn-like notes. Both the aforementioned are juxtaposed nicely with AND augmented by the toasted cedar. That is, the sweetness of the honey addition benefits slightly from the presence of some slightly caramelly, toasted wood sugars (which I never would have been able to recognize in a beer three years ago - hurrah for barrel aging), but the spiciness of the cedar also does a lot for the earthiness and bitterness of the hop addition. Any hint of alcohol is completely masked by the bitterness and earthiness of the malt astringencies, the hop bitterness, and the spiciness of the cedar. A very complex, well-rounded, and intensely flavored beer.

Mouthfeel: Immaculately creamy, smooth, soft - velvety is definitely an appropriate adjective to use here, as the body is thick and chewy but has just enough fine, subtle lift to help it slide back the tongue. I'm tempted to give it a 5.0, as the carbonation level really does strike a near-perfect level of creaminess that augments the toasted malty notes and the sweet, sugary honey contributions ... near-perfect, though. Ah, screw it - as the carbonation dies down just a tad, it really does become amazingly creamy. Fantastic.

Drinkability: An amazing beer, and an excellent black barleywine ... I'm still stuck in the Black IPA/Black Barleywine terminology, so it's going to take me a while to get in to transition over to the new BA terminology. This one was a little more subtle than the 2010 Founders Nemesis, though it did remind me of it in many ways. The Spanish cedar was a great touch, and I really love what CCB is doing with it - keep it up. The 11.2% was also definitely up there, but, you know what? Not enough to keep me from cracking the "Or" - part II of this series - immediately following this. Definitely recommended.

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Photo of HeyItsChili
4.32/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked this up from the tasting room at Cigar City Brewing down in Tampa.

A - Poured from a bottle into a pint glass. Pours black, with faint tobacco brown highlights when held to light. Thin dark khaki head.

S - Faint woody aroma, very sweet dark brown sugar, dark malt, licorice, with some grapefruit-like citrus in there to boot.

T - Kind of a gritty chocolaty-coffee flavor at first that quickly fades into hop territory. Piny hops that gets sharper and mixes with a dry burn of alcohol as it fades into aftertaste.

M - Medium bodied, good carbonation.

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Photo of babaracas
4.32/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Head to head of Either and Or, will try to keep this mostly about Either.

Pours a pitch black with one finger khaki head, fades to a thin later leaving a wispy ring of fine lace.

Smell: big citrus hops, slightly green, dark chocolate syrup, sweet, mild roast, a touch of cedar (looks at label, ok, aged on cedar, makes sense).

Taste: milk chocolate sweetness upfront, then a mild roastiness gets obliterated by ridiculous amounts of earthy and leafy hops with lemon peel coming in amidst a hit of booze then fading to a hoppy, sticky, and honeyed finish. Cedar in the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: viscous, it could maybe use just a little more carbonation. Building alcohol.

This leaned more towards a lighter impy stout with a crapton of hops. My favorite of the pair.

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Photo of MURF0320
4.3/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Pours dark black with a thin tan head, light lacing.
Smell is heavy on roasted malts, dark chocolate, and cedar.
Taste is slightly too dominated by cedar flavor, but is perfectly balanced between the heavy roasted malt, piney hops, bitter cocoa, and sweetness of rich honey. Huge alcohol percentage is brilliantly masked.
Mouthfeel is exceptional. Thich but very smooth with a crisp, semi-dry, bitter finish.
I found this to be a very original beer. Much richer and more flavorful than typical Black IPA's or hoppy stouts.
Sucks that its $8 a bottle or higher, but might be worth it.

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Photo of strangefate
4.3/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours pitch black with a one finger tan head with nice sticky lacing.

Tons of floral hops on the nose, a subtle sweetness behind it. Some roasted malt as well.

The taste is similar, lots of floral hops, but with a grapefruit/citrus character not present in any other Black IPA I've had. It has a roasted malt backbone and the alcohol does come through but in a somewhat unique masked way. This definitely tastes not only darker than any other Black IPA I've had, but also hoppier.

This is well carbonated, medium bodied, and silky smooth.

The best Black IPA I've had. Very solid. The high ABV does catch you a bit, so it's not something you can drink a lot of, but it's definitely something I would pay for again.

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Photo of 7ways
4.29/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours almost jet black with a small mocha head of Guinness Draught - like bubbles. This is going to be creamy. Fat globs of lace cling weakly.

You don't get an aroma like this often... licorice, dark chocolate, dark fresh bread, caramel dipped pears. It reminds me of Dark Lord and Bell's Batch 9000, with additional cascade or some other citrusy hop presence. But the hop component isn't too strong, and meshes nicely.

I'm happy to note that the cedar isn't nearly as prominent as with other CCB offerings (I think it can be very distracting).
I pick up nuts, roast, and vanilla initially. Honey? Maybe, it is rather sweet. The booziness reminds me of black strap rum. And the huge malt defines this as an Old Ale for me. This does not taste remotely close to any black IPA I've ever had.

The mouthfeel is almost like a good barley wine. Rich, full, a little dry, a little hot. It works perfectly.

Pretty quaffable for a big, confused ale. I am not a fan of black IPAs... thankfully this isn't one of them!

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Photo of Lerxst
4.28/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A-Viscous and black with a one finger mocha colored head that has very good retention and leaves an admirable amount of sticky lace. Great looking beer.

S-Earthy, grassy hops greet you first, followed by some bakers chocolate. A bit smoky and woody.

T-A sweetness is immediately apparent, a bit of chocolate and maybe some of the honey used is contributing. At first the sweetness is a bit surprising, but then my taste buds are bombarded with earthy hops and dark roasted malt. The cedar contributes (as with the nose) with a smoky, woody characteristic. Very interesting, complex and different, but very enjoyable. No hints of booze which is surprising given the abv.

M-Full bodied and lush, slick and oily. Coats the palate thoroughly. Relatively low carb level.

D-Its a sipper no doubt, but very enjoyable and easy to drink.

This pours, has the look and mouthfeel of an Imp. Stout. A very interesting and different beer from the great folks at CCB! I love this brewery! Can't wait to try "Or" tomorrow night.

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Photo of billyshears
4.27/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

side by side with Or.

a: black with tan head that dissipates.
s: some hops, but kinda second fiddle to the chocolate malts and dark fruits; cedar present a bit and a sweetness which I assume is from the honey.
t: more balanced, less hop driven than or. nice chocolate malt and additional sweetness, which cigar city always does well, followed by a bit of piney hop linger.
m: nice medium/full mouthfeel and high carbonation. works cause its more malt focused than or
d: I could drink a few of these.

it's a judgment call, but i think i might like this one more.. i like the malt hop interplay more on this. if you want a much more hop forward black ale, go with Or.

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Photo of aubuc1
4.27/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a snifter.

Pours pitch black with a steady dark tan head.

Smell is a surprising sweet, pine with a big orange finish but all sort of muted by the maltiness.

Taste is a big roasty, bready delight. Classic Cigar City, cedar/tobacco/leather. Alcohol comes in at the very end, but very well masked. Very complicated beer with some honey hidden beneath the roastiness and cedar.

Mouthfeel is creamy but a little thin finishing, but surprisingly drinkable.

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Photo of mondegreen
4.25/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz into a Founder's Tulip. Served alongside Or.

A pours black with a one finger light tan head.

Nose is slightly sweet with a nice blend of bitter hop aroma and spicy wood.

Taste is a nice balance of dark roasted sweetness, moderately bitter hops, and peppery cedar wood. Finish is a long lingering cedar note. I like.

Medium full mouth. Very nice.

I like this beer alot. A very cool take on the American Black Ale.

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Either from Cigar City Brewing
88 out of 100 based on 112 ratings.