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Either - Cigar City Brewing

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BA SCORE
88
very good

159 Ratings
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Ratings: 159
Reviews: 112
rAvg: 3.95
pDev: 12.41%
Wants: 24
Gots: 32 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Cigar City Brewing visit their website
Florida, United States

Style | ABV
American Black Ale |  11.20% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: CampusCrew on 11-12-2010)
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Photo of BrewCrew2010
3.25/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

A: Pours a pitch black body with a good size, foamy tan head that doesn't last too long and recedes to the edges over the course of the drink.

S: A thick and robust nose that reminds me a bit like a stout. Cedar wood notes are pronouce along with earthy hops, hints of citrus hops, burnt caramel, vanilla, licorice, and a strong malty backbone.

T: A very hoppy bitter upfront followed with strong cedar notes and a hint of honey & molasses. Very earthy & citrus hops dominate the palate but are cut short by roasted malts and again cedar (which tends to be a bit overwhelming).

M: A very heavy and full mouthfeel (like a stout almost), with light carbonation, and an oily slick texture.

D: I was really excited to get this, but for $7.50 a bottle I don't see myself buying this again. I felt like the cedar was way too much and the flavors were all over the place. Didn't come across as very well balanced and if the flavors were a bit more focused (honey, cedar, hops were all battling against each other), I think it could have been a lot better.

BrewCrew2010, Feb 02, 2011
Photo of number1bum
3.65/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours nearly pitch black with a slowly rising, dense three inches of dark tan head. Retention is quite good, with a full and pretty ample lace plus, initially, a good deal of webbing coating the side of the glass. The webbing on the sides doesn't last long, though, unfortunately.

Smell is very roasty up front but right behind it is a good deal of citrus, as well. It's somewhat burned smelling, and is somewhat boozy as well. There is some sweetness to it but I wouldn't call it honey if I didn't know it were there. Sort of nondescript. The nose has some nice elements but is also a bit rough around the edges.

Taste has a good deal of sweetness but this time the honey is apparent, unlike on the nose. It is also more balanced and smoother than the nose implied it might be. The roasted flavor is here but is neither overpowering nor burned like the nose. Hop flavor is rather modest, however, as it gets lost a bit behind the malt and honey. There is some citrus, but the hops are more bitter than they are flavorful. This has some alcohol heat to it like the nose did, as well.

Mouthfeel is medium-full bodied and is pretty smooth. The bitterness is substantial in the finish and lingers, giving it a bit of a roughness. Well carbonated.

This is a pretty tasty Black IPA but overall I think it's overdone. It would be smoother with less alcohol had they not amped the ABV up so high. I also think the hop flavor gets lost behind all the malt and honey, so it ends up being a bit of a bitter bomb. Seems somewhat unrefined to me. A little more restraint would go a long way here. We'll see what the Or has in store in a few days.

number1bum, Jan 29, 2011
Photo of youradhere
4.58/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Got in a trade with cheezedog. Thanks!

Pours impenetrably black body with soft, ample tan head that lingers and slowly falls. Very soft and fine foam that holds in aromas nicely. Smells of dark chocolate, coffee, oak, vanilla, anise, licorice, tart berry. Damn this smells wonderful. Taste is mellow, no one flavor really dominates, but if I had to pick one I'd say the chocolate dominates. An interesting and pleasant astringency is at the back and sides of the tongue, I think I'm picking up the cedar this was aged on. Could use a bit more in the middle as it seems that the beer comes out with a wall of flavor, fades, and then the pleasant astringency and chocolate comes back. Very interesting brew, I dig it for sure. Carbonation is very fine, body is medium heavy which compliments the off-sweet character of this. Very nice indeed, bravo CCB!

youradhere, Jan 27, 2011
Photo of PittBeerGirl
3.85/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Huge thanks to Jefe73 for sending this my way!

A- Body is a dark, aboding motor oil black hue. Pours with a 1-2 finger creamy dark tan head. Honestly-this brew has big imperal stout written all over it in the appearance- Lacing left all the way down the glass.

S- The nose is very interesting and quite contrasting. Imperial coffee stout meets DIPA-lots of grapefruit, citrus, roasted malt, the smallest hint of wood, dark chocolate, and a hint of alcohol.

T- Smooth creamy dark chocolate and woody flavors highlight (somewhat) upfront, minimal honey and cedar-accents of citrus above this. The finish is much more stout than IPA as well-with roasted malt and smooth dark chocolate and a hint of wood/honey coming through. What lingers is crazy moderate to strong hop bitterness and a hint of roasted malt bitterness-actually its hard to tell the difference between the battling bitterness

M- Medium to high carbonation. Moderate to heavy weight sticky, oily body. The hop oils mix in well here.

D-This is probably the most complex black ale I have had yet. The hop/malt contrast here is huge (and weird of course-but thats just the style). Overall this is good-but a little bitter for my tastes. Mouthfeel is phenomenal. THIS makes me look forward to some Hill Farmstead

PittBeerGirl, Jan 25, 2011
Photo of Florida9
3.68/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Not surprisingly, this one is black. Forms a large dark khaki colored brown head on an aggressive pour. Great retention, though it eventually reduces down to a flat black surface with a ring around the edge. Very light lacing.

S: Primary molasses and raisins with some roasted malts and chocolate. Sweet with a hint of alcohol.

T: Big flavors here, similar to the aroma. At first there is molasses, raisin, and chocolate. Definitely sweet. Next come roasted malts and a hoppy bitterness. The finish is long with a drawn out ash or char flavor.

M: On the heavier side with appropriate carbonation. Sweet and sticky on the front end, but a bit chalky on the finish.

D: Packed full of flavor, this a good, but not great beer. A bit too sweet for my taste without the hops to balance it out.

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Tasted this alongside Or. Both beers look identical. There is no difference there. Or's nose is mores roasty. Either is a bit sweeter, with more of a "Black IPA" character to it, while Or has a bit more a citrus and seems to push more towards the stout side of the spectrum. However, at the end of the day, both are very similar.

Florida9, Jan 23, 2011
Photo of PDXHops
2.7/5  rDev -31.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle in a Duvel tulip. Pours out near black with a smallish shiny tan head that soon reduces to a skim, but this sticks around impressively and leaves scattered creamy bits of lacing.

Smells pleasantly sweet, full of milk chocolate, honey, pineapples, oranges and floral notes. Could stand a touch more roasted/burnt character. The cedar is a background player in the nose, but the flavor is much more assertive. This cedar business seems to work better with some of their beers more than others; to me it seems distracting more than anything here. A nice sharp bitterness is drowned out first by the cedar, then a wave of sweetness and booze. All the fruit and chocolate mentioned above is present, plus a lingering raisinish tang. Kinda minty at times. Between the thickish body, the sweetness and the cedar becoming increasingly strong as it warms, it's a bit of a chore to finish.

Interesting sipper, but the shortage of dry and roasted flavors and lack of focus on the hops limit its appeal as a CDA.

PDXHops, Jan 19, 2011
Photo of Jmoore50
4.18/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

If I had to choose Either Or, I would have to choose this version. A delicious 'black ale'.

The 12 oz bottle pours out a very dark black color with a fairly thick viscosity. With a very aggressive pour I get a half finger cocoa brown head that quickly turns into a film over the beer. Light lacing and medium alcoholic legs make this one a thick beer to be reckoned with.

The smell is of fruity pebble hops, a bit of roasted chocolate, and sweet candied sugars.

The first tastes are of a nice balanced roasted grain with hints of chocolate, molasses, and sweet sugars. The bitterness from the hops comes through towards the end and really end it well. There are some fruity sweetness' that I pick up off of the hops which make it interesting to drink. A bit of astringent nature in the mouthfeel is interesting and somewhat unexpected.

Really sweet overall with light hop bitterness in the end. A really delicious beer that I enjoyed more than Or.

Jmoore50, Jan 17, 2011
Photo of thagr81us
4.15/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks goes out to Jefe73 for this as an extra in a recent trade. Served from bottle into a Stone nonic. Poured pitch black with a one and a half finger tan head that subsided to a half finger very slowly. Maintained nice lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of roasted malt, chocolate, and bitter hops. The flavor was of sweet malt, roasted malt, chocolate, bitter hops, and slight alcohol. It had a heavy feel on the palate with mild carbonation. Overall this was a pretty nice brew. The flavor was very well balanced with the sweetness from the chocolate and the bitterness from the hops. The hop flavor was also quite nice and not palate invasive. This one is a must try for sure!

thagr81us, Jan 17, 2011
Photo of maximum12
3.68/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to moose3285 for sending me a box stuffed to the gills with Cigar City goodness, practically ever CC beer I hadn't had to date. Trying this side by side with Or to see if I can ferret out the differences. Split each bottle into little sippy cups for my wife & I.

Poured into my "tasting" glass (that holds about eight ounces) from the last Great Taste, Either is black, stout-black. On the swirl-and-sniff, it smells not at all like I expected, licorice, molasses, black-cherries. Underneath is a bit of hop bitterness.

Either is thick as mud used to built a hut. Rather than getting the taste up front, I get the coating of gel-like material that seems to be beer. Slathered with molasses, black licorice, dark grade honey. Oak kicks up in the death throes, along with a strong wash of char & subdued hop bitterness. This is a whole different level than Or, viscous, oily, heavy. I can already feel the heaviness working its way into my system, filling me up. This is a meal in a bottle, & six ounces is probably enough.

Good beer, but the heaviness holds down it's potential. No idea these were so high in ABV, I might have held off a bit - I'll wager this one is going to improve markedly with age.

maximum12, Jan 16, 2011
Photo of JohnGalt1
3.78/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ditmier busted Either and Or out at a recent tasting... Thanks Eric.. very cool to try these side by side... but honestly, I couldn't tell too much of a difference... "Or" seemed to be a tad hoppier.

Thin dark tan head.. very clear ... dark walnut.. verging on black but clarity is so nice it never reaches that point, and that is okay.

nose has abundant citrus hops.. cedar is pretty prevalent and starting to be unmistakable in their appropriate brews.

Flavor is big and bitter up front... both from the hops and a bit of roasty malt astringencies.... a bit of malt sweetness mid palate plays well and ties the hops well to the dark malt flavors.. a bit of chocolate... and a touch too much char for my palate... plenty of distracting cedar notes from front to back and really lingering on the finish... and don't, at least for me, add plus points to the overall brew.

Nice medium+ on the body with a good lush small bubble carbonation.

Pretty nice.. but honestly, the wood is a distraction to me in an otherwise well made beer... it adds complexities, but seems like a novelty in a brew that is supposed to be highliting so much stuff including bright hoppy flavors.

4/4/3.5/4/4

Thanks again Eric... I truly appreciate these ones.

JohnGalt1, Jan 15, 2011
Photo of birderbeerer
3.8/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black/dark brown. Some head and lace.

Aroma is malt forward, more brown ale/toast than stout/roast. With a hop accent.

Taste is similar to aroma. Like a hopped-up, rich, brown ale. The hops are somewhat muted. More piney than fruity. Absolutely no detection of 11%+ abv.

This is more of a super rich brown ale with hops whereas Or is more of an ipa with an excessive amount of toasted malts and grains.

Either and Or are a sort of yin and yang in that each is more of the opposite side of the same coin than the other.

birderbeerer, Jan 15, 2011
Photo of steve8robin
3.88/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I've had "Or" and it was a good beer. Solid, but not perfection. Let's see how "Either" holds up. 12oz bottle...

A: With an aggressive pour, I get a dark liquid with copper highlights shining through. A very tiny off white head that quickly fades to a bubbly lace surrounding the top of the brew. Decent.

S: I get some chocolate and faint bitter hop upfront with some faint raisin and oatmeal hidden in the back. Ok.

T: I immediately get a bitter hop roastiness upfront quickly followed by a creamy chocolate. Some vanilla and cocoa in the middle with some very faint sugary malts on the backend. Good.

M: Medium body with a phenomenal carbonation feel. A very dry finish. Good.

D: Goes down very easy for an such high ABV. Very good.

All in all, this is another solid brew from CC. Not great, but still solid. Great to try if you like black & tan brews. This seems to have elements of stouts and IPA's blended very well together. Worth trying at least once.

steve8robin, Jan 14, 2011
Photo of glid02
4.58/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Bottle.

Pours a dark brown color with a half-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of dark and bready malts with solid amounts of pine, spicy, and herbal hop notes - in that order. Also present are hints of dark molasses and brighter citrus hops, the latter intensifying as the beer warms.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Dark malt flavors with hints of roastiness kick things off and are joined quickly by spicy and light pine hops. The malt flavors are beefed up midway through the sip with slight bready flavors and are sweetened by hints of heavy molasses. Near the end of the sip the hops lighten and hints of citrus and cedar make an appearance. The cedar, molasses, dark malt, and pine flavors carry through to a solidly bitter ending. Hints of tobacco linger on the palate after the sip.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a heavy thickness with grainy carbonation.

Drinkability is great. I finished my glass very quickly and could drink a lot of these trying to figure out everything that was in there.

Overall I was very impressed with this beer. The cedar had a lighter influence than in many of CCB's offerings and the malt complexity was great. Additionally, the hint of tobacco on the back end made an appearance, something of which I'm a fan. If you still have the opportunity to buy this beer I highly recommend doing so, well worth the shot. For those not a fan of CDAs I could make the argument that it's closer to an Old Ale than anything.

glid02, Jan 10, 2011
Photo of HeyItsChili
4.33/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked this up from the tasting room at Cigar City Brewing down in Tampa.

A - Poured from a bottle into a pint glass. Pours black, with faint tobacco brown highlights when held to light. Thin dark khaki head.

S - Faint woody aroma, very sweet dark brown sugar, dark malt, licorice, with some grapefruit-like citrus in there to boot.

T - Kind of a gritty chocolaty-coffee flavor at first that quickly fades into hop territory. Piny hops that gets sharper and mixes with a dry burn of alcohol as it fades into aftertaste.

M - Medium bodied, good carbonation.

HeyItsChili, Jan 08, 2011
Photo of GatheringBrews
4.15/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Pours a deep, rich black/brown with a tan head that lingers quite a while, lacing the sides of the glass.

Aroma doesn't seem overly strong, but notes of sweet malt, slight pine and dark fruit.

The cedar spirals give this one a really unique earthy flavor with a undertone of sweetness, but clear hop character of a Black IPA with a little chocolate and smoke. Carmel sweetness on the finish with a touch of tartness.

Full body mouthfeel, very round and full with little or no alcohol at all.

GatheringBrews, Jan 06, 2011
Photo of aepb1
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Pitch black body with a creamy dark head and good lacing with the head dissipating to a little cap

S- Sweet floral smell, some woodiness, some hops

T- Wood and sweet fruits hit up front. Some coffee bitterness finish. No real balance, goes from big sweet to big bitter finish with no in between

M- Full-bodied and sweet stickiness

D- Looking forward to "Or" but this one is good

aepb1, Dec 31, 2010
Photo of fear025
3.75/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Aroma:The hops smell nicely of grapefruit and sweet cotton candy. Dark malts also add to the aroma.

Appearance:Black in color. Light coffee colored head. Head looks a little low, but thick with tiny bubbles.

Taste:The sweet dark malts are prominent in this one. The hops definitely play second fiddle to the malts. The hops taste lightly of citrus, but are mainly just bitter.

Mouthfeel:This beer has a thick body, like a barley wine. The carbonation is a little low.

Drinkability:I enjoyed drinking this unique beer, although I think if you try to pigeonhole it into a specific style, you'll be dissapointed. It's more like a dark malted hoppy barley wine than a cascadian ipa.

fear025, Dec 31, 2010
Photo of DmanGTR
4.1/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Shared this at a tasting last week. Compared side by side with Or.

Poured dark brown, quite clear, with a creamy beige head. Nice roastiness coming through immediately. Coffee and chocolate, but also a healthy dose of pine and resin. Much going on here, but in the end, it really reminds me of a hoppy porter. Perhaps a touch of cinnamon in the finish, nicely spicy and drinks quite well. You'd never be able to tell that it's over 8%.

DmanGTR, Dec 30, 2010
Photo of 7ways
4.25/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours almost jet black with a small mocha head of Guinness Draught - like bubbles. This is going to be creamy. Fat globs of lace cling weakly.

You don't get an aroma like this often... licorice, dark chocolate, dark fresh bread, caramel dipped pears. It reminds me of Dark Lord and Bell's Batch 9000, with additional cascade or some other citrusy hop presence. But the hop component isn't too strong, and meshes nicely.

I'm happy to note that the cedar isn't nearly as prominent as with other CCB offerings (I think it can be very distracting).
I pick up nuts, roast, and vanilla initially. Honey? Maybe, it is rather sweet. The booziness reminds me of black strap rum. And the huge malt defines this as an Old Ale for me. This does not taste remotely close to any black IPA I've ever had.

The mouthfeel is almost like a good barley wine. Rich, full, a little dry, a little hot. It works perfectly.

Pretty quaffable for a big, confused ale. I am not a fan of black IPAs... thankfully this isn't one of them!

7ways, Dec 28, 2010
Photo of meatyard
4.2/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This pours out a very dark brown/black with a short tan head that leaves some spotty lace.

The smell is dark, dried fruits, licorice and molasses. As it warms is when I get some mild pine and alcohol.

The taste is similar to the smell but is intensified. There is a light bitterness and some alcohol appears.

Mouthfeel is very smooth and medium bodied.

Drinkability: ABV is high and this just lends itself to a slow drinking environment. About as good as any other Cas. Dark Ale in it's own way that I've had. I enjoyed this and I liked it a bit more than the Or. This may not wow you but you'd definitely have an opinion about this beer.

meatyard, Dec 28, 2010
Photo of PorterLambic
4.83/5  rDev +22.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours nearly black with a big, slow to dissipate head the color of cocoa. Great lace results when the mound of tight foam recedes.
Smell is really well-balanced with malt standing with the hops followed with wet cardboard, fruitcake and whiskey.
Taste is amazing with rich dark fruits, whiskey, roasted malt, with hops light.
Smooth rich creamy and chewy. Full bodied with a light effervescence. This is a really, really, REALLY good beer. Wish it wasn't a one time thing. Glad the Cock and Bull had it since I missed it at Cigar City.

PorterLambic, Dec 23, 2010
Photo of nickfl
4.2/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours with a small head of medium-brown foam on top of a black body with no light showing through. The head settles rapidly and leaves little lace.

S - Dark, sugary malt notes with lots of fruity yeast character. Molasses, plums, licorice, clove, and a hint of cinnamon.

T - Dark fruity and sugar notes up front, lots of plum, fig, and molasses. Some burnt caramel and dark bread flavors appear in the middle with a bit of chicory or spiced coffee. The beer finishes spicy and sweet with a blackstrap molasses character that is supplimented with spicy hops and some more fruity alcohol notes. Lingering dark sugars with a hint of pipe tobacco and licorice.

M - Thick and syrupy, with moderate carbonation, and a sweet finish.

D - This is a big, thick, rich beer with a complex array of dark sugar notes. It is one of the few black IPAs that really manages to be something distinct from a stout or barleywine by the use of complex sugary character that is dark but almost completely lacking in roasted character. The dominant flavor is dark molasses with notes of spice and fruit that play off of the intense, syrupy sugar. The hops end up in a supporting role, where they lend strength to the spicy character and provide enough bitterness to keep the beer drinkable despite its enormous sweetness. Very good, this was an expensive bottle of beer, but like most of the beer I have had from Cigar City it was worth the price.

nickfl, Dec 21, 2010
Photo of wethorseblanket
4.05/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Another bottle shared by Austin - Coolio.

Pours black with a wispy tan head. Smell is really cedar wood and hops. Taste is tobacco and smoked cedar. Mouthfeel is thick, rich and chewy. There is a sticky sweetness in here from the honey that is really enjoyable. Overall, a bigger variant from the "Or" with much more cedar and smoke qualities. Glad to have tried it.

wethorseblanket, Dec 19, 2010
Photo of Axic10
3.9/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12oz bottle into a tulip.

Appearance: Pours pitch black (almost stout like) with a very thin mocha colored head that disappears quickly.

Smell: Strong aroma of honey, sweet and bitter hops and some chocolaty malt.

Taste: Chocolate, some hoppy bitterness, roasted malt and honey.

Mouthfeel: More towards the full bodied side of things and creamy.

Drinkability: Glad I got to try this beer as I'm a fan of both breweries, however I'm not sold on this, as it seemed like it wanted to be a stout more than a black IPA. Decent for what it is.

Axic10, Dec 19, 2010
Photo of beersensei305
3.95/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

From Notes: Bottle @ WOB Tampa Palms (I would have tried Or also that night but it didn't give me points... oh well.)

A- Pours black with a tan head disapates with no lacing around the goblet.

S: Sweet from honey, very hoppy with chocolatey roasty notes

T: There beer tastes very malty to me, roasted malts to be exact. Some citrus and pine, choclatey in the back. And a big presence of booze.

M: Medium bodied, not heavy. Little carbonation.

D: Very strong beer. The complexity comes out better when it warms. Not a beer to drink cold.

beersensei305, Dec 18, 2010
Either from Cigar City Brewing
88 out of 100 based on 159 ratings.