Vuja De - Cigar City Brewing

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78
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157 Ratings
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Ratings: 157
Reviews: 87
rAvg: 3.42
pDev: 25.44%
Wants: 25
Gots: 43 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Cigar City Brewing visit their website
Florida, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  9.96% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Ale with Black Currants, Locally Foraged Lemon Leaves, Hibiscus, Cane Sugar and Elderberry Flowers.

(Beer added by: djmichaelk on 01-19-2011)
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Photo of freduardo
4.5/5  rDev +31.6%

Photo of alpinebryant
4.1/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Deep dark pour with a massive thick tan head.

S: Acetic vinegar with a deep tart smell of Oregon canned tart cherries and funk. Barrel aroma clear and present.

T: Taste is very acetic. Vinegar flavors clearly there, but this is so rich and thick that there are multiple layers of complexity. There is more of a Flanders Oud Brune flavor with tons of oak than I have had out of most American Wild Ales but I would say the yeast in here is very similar to a Roselare yeast strain maybe with some other bugs added later. Tart lemony and mouth puckering / teeth resin reducing. Your teeth will feel similar to how teeth feel after eating a persimmon... Chalky and grainy! Oaky and tart through the finish with a hint of sour cream.

M: Thick body for the style clearly with a lot of carbonation. The bugs are still eating...

O: I had seen some bad reviews when this came out and have let it sit for the last 8 months or so I think. In any case I think it tastes pretty good at this point. Maybe the earlier reviews needed to let the bottles sit longer.

Photo of chickenflea
3.8/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Aroma: Malt vinegar with booze and bing cherries and flowers. Slight milk chocolate.

Appearance: Pours a clouded, dark brown body with a moderate-sized, whitish head.

Taste: Briefly sweet and them immediately tart and sour. The berries are clearly there now. This beer is clearly better at room temperature. The first few sips were harsh and boozy. Lemony sourness.

Mouthfeel: Medium-light body. Medium-high carbonation.

Overall: A very different ant refreshing beer. Again, let this beer warm up to thoroughly enjoy it's unique blend of flavors.

Photo of twiggamortis420
4.4/5  rDev +28.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 mL bottle courtesy of fthomasl, thanks bud. Pours a cloudy brown color with an ample tan head. Retention and lacing are average at best.

Nose is great! Lots of berry aromas and acetic vinegar. Smells like an aged Rodenbach mixed with a nice lambic. Me likey.

Pithy, lemon zest flavors play nicely with the acetic sourness. Damn, this is a tasty beverage! The sourness is plenty there for extreme sourheads and also displays some ancillary flavors of hops and berry fruitiness. Wine-like at times with a grape-esque tannin aspect. I think this is a well balanced sour that hits some high notes at times but has some pithy bitterness that I could see turning some folk off. I really like it though, and would be more than happy to have a few more of these. Very enjoyable.

Photo of TheGordianKnot
3.8/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into DFH glass...

A- Dark like a porter. Inch of crema head, stable. Clingy.

S- Sour nail polish remover. Lemon juice and grasses on the back end, but overpowered by something slightly off.

T/M- Not sure how to describe this. Very sour. Has a bitterness to it, not roasty or hoppy, very weird. Finishes with a sweet toffee flavor. Tart fruitiness is a mix of light citrus and berries. Medium body, stinging carbonation. Fitting to the profile of this beer.

O- Much different than any other wild I've had. Definitely a great dark brown ale base to it, with the awesome twist of being sour. Flavors really transitioned and blended well together. Would be interested to see what this beer does with some age... Wow, surprised this is only rated a B

Photo of ChainGangGuy
4.15/5  rDev +21.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a clouded, dark brown body with a moderate-sized, whitish head.

Smell: A nearby opened bottle of malt vinegar with notes of macerated fruits, skins and all, a bit of stale chocolate, and some curious florals one would find well at home in a cup of herbal tea.

Taste: A brief introduction of a brown ale malt base and then, bang, a burst of sharp tartness, no time for sweetness, Dr. Jones. Homemade jams of black cherries and a blackberries stirred up with a generous pour of acetic vinegar and dusted with a small pinch of cocoa powder and lemon seeds. One tiny drop of acetone. Notably acidic and still unforgivingly tart on the finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-light body. Medium-high carbonation.

Overall: Though it seemed quite a few did not, I certainly enjoyed this one. A fun, interesting ride.

Photo of TheFightfan1
3.93/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Now this is the epidemy of a love it or hate beer. I for one did liked it. Served in a tulip. An extremely hazy amberish color with a nice off white heading that sticks around for a little while. Heavy tart aroma and taste. Cherry mostly with a slighter brown sugar like taste in the finsih. Extremely slick in the mouth and medium bodied tetering towards full with nice a carbonation feel. I was very hesitant on getting this one but aah what the hell.

Photo of birchstick
3.63/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - pours dark without much of a head

S - smells very floral with the elderberry and hibiscus; the lemon leaves also give off strong citrus notes.

T - Very floral and soapy was my first overall impression. Digging deeper, this starts with flowers and some honey upfront. It ends with a nice sweetness / sour combo. Really nice complexity going on, however the floral/potpurri flavors were a bit too dialed up for my liking. Very good, though.

M - nice soft carbonation with a medium body

D - solid American Wild Ale. I didn't even Cigar City made sours and was pleasantly surprised by this one. Also, let let this warm up a bit...the more it warmed, the more it opened up. Good stuff!

Photo of ehammond1
4.2/5  rDev +22.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle

Acquired via trade
Thanks sendsilk!

Hazy and murky auburn brown with a rapidly growing khaki colored head. Dots and specks of lace down the glass.

Bright aromas of cherries, currants, and lemon, along with some mild tang and sourness, and a bit of wood.

Bright, popping flavors: currants and cherries, a little bit of lemon, tart sourness and some underlying funk--a really lovely combination. I had no idea what to expect from this beer, though I really enjoyed it.

Light to medium mouthfeel with plenty of carbonation. A joy to drink.

A great surprise, as I didn't have any idea what to expect from this beer.

Photo of devilben02
4.13/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep, opaque burgundy brown color, with a thick, creamy beige head. The aroma is wonderfully fragrant and fruity, with a combination of red wine grapes, berries, and a vinegary acidity. The flavor is much tarter, more floral, and dryly fruity, with the fresh grape and berry fruitiness being complemented by some herbal earthiness and a bit of brown sugar sweetness. The fine yet present carbonation is noticeable without distracting from the complex flavor profile. Overall, this is an intriguing, smooth, easy drinking beer that I wish was available in my area.

Photo of cjacobsen
3.93/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Bay01 for bringing this one by.

(A) Pours brown, almost a dark cloudy maroon/really burnt orange. It's pretty cloudy as well.

(S) Prune, raisin, funk, herbs, and vinegar.

(T) The sour and tart is there. It's pretty acidic. The currants and the lemon are highly noticeable. Tart green apples, some vinegar, cherries.

(M) It's not very carbonated but it's lacking enough to feel flat. It's got that sour kick to it though, the one that gets you in the back parts of your mouth behind your ears.

(O) This was an interesting brew. The reviews are all over the place and I can see why. I think this beer seemed to be on a bottle-to-bottle basis. I think that unless kept right, I could see this changing into an abomination and be close to undrinkable.

Photo of FosterJM
4.03/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

770th Review on BA
Bottle to Goblet
750 ML

@Woodshop Classix
Thanks to Eric and Sam for sharing!

App- Interesting mix of brown/ambers and reds. A huge puffy two finger head with a good amount of cling to it. A nice wild ale.

Smell- Brighter medium dark fruits with a little yeast behind it. Very bubbly and bright on the nose. No trace of the infection some are smelling on her. Get a little bit of the lemon but not much hidden behind the other fruit.

Taste- Taste really follows the nose although with a little twist. Had a little bit of sour to it but not all that much and more of the lemony notes come in with currants to give it a twang on the taste.

Mouth- Medium bodied and medium carbonated. A little bit of bubbly fruits remain and smooths out on the finish.

Drink- This was a nice beer. I have been pretty happy with all the CCB beers I have had and this was nice as well with some unique flavors melding seeminly well.

Photo of sweemzander
4/5  rDev +17%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750mL bottle poured into a tasting glass. Thanks Matt for sharing!

(A)- Pours a deep and cloudy mahogany color. Some tan/transparent lace.

(S)- A big sour acidity. Can definitely see the black currants and lemon leaves.

(T)- High acidity, but rather floral too. Bits of spice and lemon with an overall good sour character throughout.

(M)- A good carbonation level and balance. Again, high acidity, but it has a good backbone of rich fruit and citrus. Subtle chalky finish to it.

(D)- Uniquely acidic with a fun profile of rich fruits and citrus while being a tad dry and chalky. Enjoyable. Based upon some of the reviews I see, there must be off bottles out there or extreme bottle variation going on.

Photo of jsanford
3.58/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle poured into a CCb Snifter.

A - Dark mahogany with a thick, red-tinged khaki-colored head that sticks around for some time, leaving some streaky lacing as it (eventually) recedes.
S - Very tart flavors of red wine vinegar, currants, lemons. Reminds me a bit of an Flanders Oud Bruin.
T - Lots of vinegar is present, just like in the nose. Getting some dark, chocolatey malt in there, as well as a bit of currant, lemon, and a good portion of oak. Reminds me a bit of Sea Bass.
M - Smooth and creamy, with a medium-full mouthfeel, lowish carbonation, and a very dry, tannic finish. Low carb hurts it a bit for me, I like my sours to have a bit "crisper" feel.
O - Very unique, I'll give em that. Definitely shares some of the flavor components with Sea Bass, but this is kinda the "sour" take on that beer. Would have been nice to try them side-by-side, but oh well.

Photo of Chizoad
4.25/5  rDev +24.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Porter-like appearance with a thin brownish head. Not overly impressive.

Sour and funk in the nose, and they mesh well. Some herbal scents too, probably from all the random things they tossed into this beer.

I want to give this a 4.25 on the taste, but I'll round up. It's initially quite sour, dominated by vinegar, but with plenty of backbone to fix it up. Not as clean as most other sours, but everything is harmonious.

Lacks the refreshing mouthfeel that is common to many sour beers, and I think that it suffers a little bit for it. A little heavy and eventually overly sour. But after 3 bottles in a row who can really complain.

Too bad this is probably the last we'll ever see of the Vuja De. Cigar City isn't brewing with Brett currently, and probably won't start back up for a while, according to one of the employees there. Enjoy it while you can still find it.

Photo of AgentZero
1.45/5  rDev -57.6%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

A - Not a particularly attractive beer, somewhat reddish brown, with a thin off-white head that didn't leave much stick on the sides. At the ABV it has, I guess that is acceptable.

S - What in God's name is this? Nail-polish remover? A massive amount of acetone hits the nose. Wow, that is just gross. There's also some smell of vinegar, and some sort of sickly fruit sweetness. I think all the hair in my nostrils just disintigrated along with my desire to put this beer in my mouth.

T - This is an abomination, the bastard child of nail-polish remover and bad apple cider. Somehow it actually manages to taste worse than it smells. Solvent heavy, bad vinegar, who knows what else at this point because I don't care enough to figure out anything more with this beer as there can't possibly be any qualities redeeming enough to keep this from going down the drain.

M - Somewhat thin, softer carbonation.

O - Shame on Cigar City for putting this in bottles.

Photo of Kkottonmouthkngz
4.13/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours murky brown, but with an appropriate light tan colored head and some decent lacing, this brew looks pretty tasty.
There is definitely a ton of vinegar on the nose but not so much that it pushes me away. I can see how this may be a breaking point for many, but im ok with it. Currant and elderberry flower and dark dank fruit dominate, the plethora of ingredients in this beer provide a huge nose and a ton of depth.
Again, so much vinegar assaults the palate, but i kind of enjoy the battle. I love the addition of the flowers and i think it really its the clincher for me. The lemon and citrus notes come through in the backend after all is said and done. The downfall of this i think is the leftover tang in the back of my throat that i know is capavle of driving people away. As this warms, it has a surprising creaminess that rounds it out once you can get past the sour dark fruit. Good carbonation, aggressive flavors, overall pretty damn decent. Im more pleased than i thought i would be.

Photo of SFLpunk
3.73/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

750mL brown glass pry-top champagne bottle purchased at Knightly Spirits OBT, Orlando FL in May 2011.

Pours a deep reddish brown with quickly receding khaki head. Nose is dominated by red wine vinegar (flemish red, anyone?), turpentine, lemon zest, raisins, dried cherry fruit leathers. Palate is very similar to a flemish red, lots of raisin-y flavors. Currants come out on the palate, preserved lemon, lime essence and something that reminds me of The Bruery.

Super sour, very much like a flemish red. Very much red wine vinegar. Not my thing, but interesting.

Photo of JayS2629
2.17/5  rDev -36.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Perhaps my palate isn't sophisticated or developed enough to appreciate something that others may find genius. This was an awful tasting beer. I want to judge this on its style merits and what it was supposed to taste like, but I also think if it hit the mark on that then the original idea was a horrible one.

There is entirely too many things going on in this beer that are going in too many directions at once. Its overly complicated and confusing to the palate. Its a mess.

It pours a mahogany color with a creamy tan head, nice retention and great lacing.

The smell is of balsamic vinegar, tart lemon, musky sour funk, yeasty qualities, and dark fruit. Acetone, fingernail polish remover, chemical smells burn the hairs out of my nose. Pungent, putrid, soured vinegar dominates, but ripe black currants do peek through to lend a bit of sweetness. There are some floral notes hidden in there as well.

The taste is horrible. I want to say there is a malty, caramel tone underneath but the dominating vinegar and lemon punch its lights out to the point it is unrecognizable. Woody notes and harsh red wine clash against chemical tasting acidic, tart white wine flavors. Citrus notes are burried beneath funky, yeasty, musky funk. Black currants try to push through but clash with the other flavors too. Interesting, but clashing on flavors. Overly vinegar and acetone.

The mouthfeel is puckering, medium bodied and smooth, and very dry in the finish. Overall it is a definite sipper and takes some adjustment to get used to. Even for its style its flavors clash and its a total mess.

Photo of adam42381
3.98/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml bottle into a Spiegelau tulip.

Appearance: Pours a dark mahogany brown with caramel highlights and a thick and creamy 3 finger beige head. Excellent head retention and lacing.

Smell: Wine grapes, cherries and apple cider vinegar. Smells quite tart.

Taste: Tart wine grape hulls up front followed by a touch of tart fruitiness I can't place along with a bit of lemon in the middle before ending with just a hint of funk at the finish. Aftertaste is light and fairly sour. Alcohol is almost completely masked.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied with a fairly low amount of carbonation. There is a bit of a burning sensation as it goes down - not from the alcohol, but more like a peppery, smokey, take your breath away sensation I can't exactly explain. It's not unpleasant, just different.

Drinkability: High drinkability. This goes down so easily it's hard to remember that it's right at 10% ABV. You could drink a lot of this if the alcohol didn't sneak up on you.

Overall: Very good beer overall. I'm not too familiar with wild ales, but if this is any indicator of what they're like, I'm sold. I would highly recommend giving this one a shot.

Photo of Kshock
4.45/5  rDev +30.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks Chris! Really dug this beer.

A- Deep Ruby Red color with a slightly pink head with good sticky lacing on the glass.

S- Lots of fruit acid and citrus. Crazy sourness on the nose. Smells of lots depth and complexity. Had my nose in this one for a while.

T- Wow, really good sourness, fruit and citrus mixed with some of that sour vinegar flavor. Really strong flavor, but well balanced believe it or not.

M- Light to medium body with a very dry and clean finish.

O- Was a little skeptic about it considering some reviews and the lack of attention, but this was a really nice surprise. Right up my alley.

Photo of SilentSabre
4.5/5  rDev +31.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Rich dark brown body with a caramel coloured head; laces the edges of glass wonderfully.

Smell is delightfully sour and remniscent of a flanders sour or perhaps a darker saison. Absolutely delightful!

Spectacularly tart right away with the sourness of the currants being very prominent. Also, a modest citrusy nuance toward the finish suggests the 'locally foraged lemon leaves' as indicated on the label. Exquisitely well crafted with all of the ingredients melding well making for a delicious wild ale. Once again, Cigar City has out done themselves!

Silky smooth in the mouth and magnificently well carbonated, given the style.

A terrific American Wild Ale which I will seek out in the future.

Photo of thagr81us
3.45/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had this one during the 'We Want The Funk!' tasting that was graciously hosted by beermeX2! Big thanks goes out to beermeX2 for sharing this one with the group! Served from bottle into a Mikkeller flute. Poured a deep reddish brown with a minimal off-white head. Maintained decent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, vinegar, acetone, and sour. The flavor was of sweet malt, caramel, vinegar, earth, sour, and wood. It had a light feel on the palate with high carbonation. Overall this was a decent brew. The acetone on the aroma was quite off-putting as it was the first time I had smelled it in a beer. I know the smell well as I am a chemist and we use it A LOT to clean glassware. Definitely not one of my favorite chemical smells. Despite this I opted to take a sip anyways. The vinegar aspect was really dominent in this one. The earthy note was a nice touch mixed with the woody character. Worth trying this one at least once so you can be the judge for yourself.

Photo of mikesgroove
3.9/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice tight head of a finger in height rises up and settles across the top with gorgeous swirls of lacing across the sides of the glass. First whiff seems a bit light to be honest, light funk, sour notes, pears, and hints of malts starting to come though. No alcohol present at all and the sour seems very understated at this point. The first sip totally redeems it though as the sour fruits and oak notes start to perk up. Nice touches of berries, tons of tart berries grapeskins, sour, sour grapefruit like flavors rip through the palate. Dark fruits, prunes, hints of vanilla and light notes of brown sugar can be picked up through the haze of barnyard funk. Rich medium body is more then well carbonated and really lets the flavor pop across the palate. Final sips are dy, vinegar rich and full of apple and pear back flavors.

Photo of treehugger02010
3.73/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I bought this bottle in the tasting room inTampa, FL. I poured it into a pint glass.
A: The body is a deep brown. The head is a few fingers tall, dark tan, small bubbles, very thin lacing.
S: The aroma is tart, elderberries, and strawberries.
T: The taste is a bit sour, oddly roasted, and yeast.
M: The body is thin with dry and lingering finish.
D: This beer is pretty good.
Don't drink and review.

Vuja De from Cigar City Brewing
78 out of 100 based on 157 ratings.