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José Martí India Porter - French Oak - Cigar City Brewing

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José Martí India Porter - French OakJosé Martí India Porter - French Oak

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89 Ratings
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Ratings: 89
Reviews: 52
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 20.57%
Wants: 7
Gots: 24 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Cigar City Brewing visit their website
Florida, United States

Style | ABV
American Porter |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: jsanford on 03-21-2011)
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4.25/5  rDev +21.4%

Hellpop65, Sep 01, 2014
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Alpar, Aug 12, 2014
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3.5/5  rDev 0%

RayUF07, Jul 26, 2014
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3/5  rDev -14.3%

beernads, Jul 18, 2014
Photo of chugalug06
4.13/5  rDev +18%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

2010

Huge frothy milk chocolate colored head. Brew is pretty dense for a porter. Great lacing

Lots of subtle leather and smoke. Caramely vanilla, tobacco, leather, only thing that detracts is the camp fire aroma.

Definitely loads of vanilla spice. Chewy, robust and deep. Carbonation starts high and has a smooth even finish. Bitterness is spot on, dry, true, earthy. Heat is non-existent.

Something to chew on. Definitely recommended with some time on it. Can't imagine what it's like fresh...intense.

chugalug06, Jun 04, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Bartos, Jan 19, 2014
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3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

sendsilk, Jan 11, 2014
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4/5  rDev +14.3%

cwguy5, Jan 03, 2014
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3.5/5  rDev 0%

jaydoc, Nov 12, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +28.6%

baerb69, Jul 28, 2013
Photo of KickInTheChalice
3.91/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

From notes. Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a tasting glass.

Like the base beer, French Oak José Martí has a rich, chocolatey appearance. The full and viscous body is topped by a smaller mocha head that fades over the course of the glass.

The aroma maintains the chocolate, roasted malt, and coffee notes, while the hoppy presence is a little bit reduced when compared to the base beer. In its stead, there is a modest woody oak presence.

Oak flavor overlays the rest of the flavors, but it does not dominate or dry the beer out too much. On occasion Cigar City wood treated beers have been too intensely woody or dry, but this is not the case. Dark chocolate, espresso and cream, and roasted malt are more noticeable on a relative basis, with the orange zest citrus and spicy pine playing more of a supporting role. There are some pepper and spice notes throughout that I also attribute to the oak aging. The finish is more mellow, less bitter than the base beer.

The body feels more solidly medium than the medium to full body of the base beer, and the carbonation is creamy and smooth, about the same. There are definitely some drying effects from the oak on the overall mouthfeel.

Overall I thought this was a nice treatment, although I liked it a little bit less than the original beer.

KickInTheChalice, Jun 19, 2013
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3.09/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured out looking much like the regular version, the beer is very dark in color with a creamy looking tan head on top. The retention is thin but hold up nicely, the lacing is also sticky on the glass. The smell of the beer is loaded with French Oak, in all honestly that is all I get on the nose. The taste goes with the flavor... I taste all french oak and nothing else. The mouthfeel is a bit sharp on the carbonation, making this beer a bit on the dry side and it stings to drink. Overall this was a bit of a disappointment, had much higher hopes for this one and was let down.

Knapp85, May 28, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Gtreid, May 20, 2013
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3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Bluecane, Apr 21, 2013
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4/5  rDev +14.3%

GrindFatherBob, Mar 29, 2013
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2.5/5  rDev -28.6%

manutdfan, Mar 18, 2013
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3.69/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

No bottle date that I can see. I got this through the Rare Beer club probably a year ago. I heard it was extremely oaky so I let it sit for a year.

A: Very dark brown pour. Enormous fluffy light brown head. Takes forever to fade away, leaving a nice island behind. Nice swath of lacing everywhere.

S: Smoke, roasted malt with some char and chocolate. Charred oak. Decent amount of anise.

T: Smoky up front with lots of meatiness too. A little char and chocolate. Intense wave of oak in the middle, like chewing a 2x4. Anise and smoked meat in the finish.

M: Medium bodied, smooth.

O: Hmph. Hopefully the oak has faded a bit with age but it's still very woody. It's also quite smoky with lots of meat. I was really reaching to get some roasted malt, it was mainly just smoked meat, oak, then more smoked meat. If you're a fan of beers like this you will probably love it. As for me I'm not a fan of smoked beers or intensely oaky beers either (see, Great Divide anniversary series). This was a little rough for me as a result.

Dope, Feb 05, 2013
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3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

jk3, Feb 03, 2013
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4.03/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: A rocky beige head caps the fudge brown-colored liquid and delivers an impressive lacing performance

Smell: Strong, oaky aromas underpin black bread, coffee, chocolate and vanilla

Taste: Black bread and molasses, up front, with the coffee, chocolate, vanilla and oak flavors building through the middle; after the swallow, however, the oak dominates though pithy hops also enter the profile; rather tannic in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: Although the oak is powerful in this beer, there are a lot of other flavors present and I was rather pleased with the outcome

brentk56, Nov 21, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev 0%

sendbeer, Oct 27, 2012
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4.25/5  rDev +21.4%

t0rin0, Sep 15, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +28.6%

neobob187, Aug 27, 2012
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3/5  rDev -14.3%

avaldivia, Aug 16, 2012
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3.15/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from tasting notes.

Poured out a dark brown with two cm of tan head on top that lasts for about a minute and a half, minimal lacing.

Smells of garam masala, dark chocolate, black coffee, charred malt, and a touch of licorice.

Tastes of bitter tannic oak, combined with a splash of acidic soy sauce over the typical porter chocolate /coffee. In some ways, the oak wood is almost like a hopping substitute. In other ways, the oak wood is a completely overwhelming force that drowns out many of the other subtle flavors that probably would have existed if the wood wasn't there.

In summary, this one has a bit TOO much wood. Because it has gotten to the point where it is obvious that the wooden flavor is obscuring some of the more delicate nuances of a beer's flavor.

WastingFreetime, Aug 12, 2012
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2.5/5  rDev -28.6%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

750 mL bottle poured into a pint glass. Reviewed from notes.

Appearance - Black with a big off-white head. Good retention. Great lacing.

Smell - Hops, coffee, and lots of oak. Serious oak.

Taste - Tastes like regular Jose Marti at first. Hoppy, coffee, chocolate. Then the oak hits. Like a train wreck of oak. Strong, ashy, dry oak. Bad.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied. Terrible finish of oak. Medium carbonation.

Overall - Really ruined by the oak. The oak flavor is overpoweringly bad. The beer starts off good and ends up nearly undrinkable.

Alieniloquium, Jul 21, 2012
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José Martí India Porter - French Oak from Cigar City Brewing
80 out of 100 based on 89 ratings.