? The Riddler ? - Rock Art Brewery

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? The Riddler ?? The Riddler ?

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Reviews: 63
Hads: 78
rAvg: 3.53
pDev: 15.3%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
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Rock Art Brewery visit their website
Vermont, United States

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: velo343 on 04-08-2007

Ah yes, lay this one down in your cellars for years to come. Enjoy this one alone for it’s malt and hop complexity.
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Reviews: 63 | Hads: 78
Photo of GratefulBeerGuy
1.75/5  rDev -50.4%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

22 oz. bomber into Chimay glass

Rusty root beer, big carbonation with a head that is soo light it basically just dissapears and looks even more like root beer. The carbonation level looks really high, but it's not supporting a head. It actually looks very lifeless, eventhough it's bubbly. This beer is a riddle!

It even has the smell of root beer, a belgian yeast with Brown ale but with medicinal herbs, sweet fruits but not much else. I'm not detecting a realy hop presence and the malt is subdued by the yeast.

O.k, I feel bad totally ripping a beer, Rock Art has my respect with it's willingness to experiment and I know this is hard work for any brewer...with that said, this flavor is horrible. It's full-on bitter disaster, metallic, medicnal herbs that taste like it's been loaded with the fake-sugar "Sucralose". And boy does that nasty flavor linger...I can't really enjoy whatever else might be in there. You can taste a mossy chocolate malt that seems to be something like a brown ale. I'm glad I only paid $3.69 for this becuase most of it is going down the drain....it might actually clean my pipes!

It starts out crisp, but that doesn't last long, oily going down.

"The Riddler"...it's a riddle all right, but to be more precise I would call it the "Joker" because this stuff is a total laugh. (1,319 characters)

Photo of CharlieMurphy
1.8/5  rDev -49%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

A: Warm inviting ruby rising sun orange through a dark sky. Looks like my glass is full of cognac. No head to speak of.

S: Warm candy sweetness, a hint of booze... and ... ?

T: Primarily bitterness. Pretty shitty riddle. Metallic, dry, oxidized (and less than a year old)

M: Metallic, nearly flat.

O: I opened this planning on using the ass for dregs in a starter. No fucking chance of that. I don't even want to finish. (425 characters)

Photo of jtierney89
2/5  rDev -43.3%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Afraid of this beer ever since I tried their double esb but I'm going for it. Not sure of age on this one but I got it from a spirits unlimited, a chain liquor store known for selling dated beer, but it being a Dubbel it should hold up to a couple of years at least. Think funky brown color with no visibility through the glass. Thin lace of off white head lots of action hoof on in the glass. Subtle.nose of raisins and fusel alcohol.

Not terrible, might actually be fresh. Full thick mouthfeel. Sugary malt sweetness up front followed by caramel and chocolate covered rum soaked raisins. Finishes with a spicy hop finish which tries to balance the beer but doesn't do it so well. Some.detectable.alcohol and lingering chocolate like sweetness. Different but simple for how big it is without enough balance, body holds up but there's not much carbonation to challenge it.

Displays an over powering.licorice taste as it warms. Cloying sweet and not very good. (962 characters)

Photo of MrMonkey
2.02/5  rDev -42.8%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Pours a dark amber, almost brown, with no head whatsoever. It's completely still, lifeless really.

Smell is raisins, yeast, a hint of smoke, some chocolate, and piny hops.

Taste is much like the nose, but it is very chalky and bitter, with the slightest hint of green apple. The finish is mostly pine sap. Overall, the taste is very metallic and although it has the potential to be a dubbel, it just falls short.

Light to medium-bodied mouthfeel. Very thin for the style.

This is one of the few beers I've had that I struggled to finish. Almost a drain pour. Not really a dubbel, but I'm not sure what style this would actually fall into. Not recommended. (660 characters)

Photo of mdfb79
2.2/5  rDev -37.7%
look: 4 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into a tulip.

a - Pours a dark brown color with 2 inches of white head and light carbonation evident.

s - Smells like garbage. Smells oddly of sweet fruit, alcohol, and pine/turpentine. Not good.

t - Tastes of dark fruit, alcohol, sugar, and licorice. Not good again.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation.

d - Not a good beer. Would not want to have again. (393 characters)

Photo of dsa7783
2.8/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

1 Pint, 6 fl oz bottle copped for $3.05 from Wine and Liquor Outlet in Boonton... Brown bottle logo claims that this sample was "Influenced by a Belgian yeast..."... Pours an attractive murky-brown complexion with some carbonation visible and a decent-sized frothy head that soon receded... smell had a noticeable caramel and slightly sugared aroma to it... Although the nose was decent, I was pretty dissapointed by the taste, which was a very bitter, slightly sour and not-at-all tasty representation of a dubbel... a clear lack of complexity, rounded off by an off-balanced malt combination leads to an undesirable, bitter finish and poor aftertaste... Mouthfeel was more light and watered-down than anything, and the drinkability was poor due to the fact that this beer lacked any real depth or character to it... This one was a miss... Not recommended... (859 characters)

Photo of jwc215
2.92/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

22 oz. bottle, poured into glass chalice:

Pours brown with a thin, fizzy off-white head that becomes a vanishing isolated patch. Looks cola-ish with a small patch that disappears.

The smell is of cocoa, some earthy spicing, some raisins. Overall it has something root beer-ish about it, with some alcohol.

The taste is of molasses, sweet cocoa, rock candy, sweetened anise. There is a pumpernickel breadiness (from yeast strain?) Alcohol comes through in a drying way. Some bittering, almost non-descript (grassy?) hops balance the sweetness - but is neither sweet nor bitter by the finish, which is rather abrupt. Looks a bit better reading the description, but the taste is so mild and "something about it" just doesn't work so well.

The feel is rather thin/weak, with a boozy kick that seems to give it more of a body than it has. It has some carbonation, but misses the boat on "Belgian-esque" - might not have aimed for it...still - it's a bit awkward in any case. An unpleasant aftertaste comes and (thankfully) goes.

There is a listing of suggested food pairings. I would rather not experiment with it to find out...too awkward, and in the end, things just don't mesh so well, for me. It does have a certain drinkability, I suppose, but wouldn't return to this despite the very reasonable price tag of about three bucks for the 22 oz. bottle. (1,354 characters)

Photo of hwwty4
2.97/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to the trading partner that gave me this bottle. I don't remember who you are. I think I've had this bottle for a while. Decided to cull my cellar a bit since I needed bottles for homebrewing.

This beer pours a murky, muddy brown with just a flicker of a head that leaves non lacing. Honestly this is a fairly ugly beer. You don't see those very often. Kind of looks like carbonated mud water. The aroma is roasted barley with a light chocolate and caramel. Slight raisin notes but mostly burnt barely and chocolate. The taste is fairly similar. For some reason it reminds me slightly of a Barleywine more then a Dubbel. Roasted barely and chocolate powder, slight raisins. There is a watery aspect to the flavor profile also. Really, it just is mediocre. Middle of the road. Nothing very spectacular. The mouthfeel is light, thin and watery. Not what I want in a Dubbel. Overall its just a mediocre beer. Not that impressive. (934 characters)

Photo of NoLiberty
2.98/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

App: Pours from 22oz bomber into Urthel chalice. Color is deep, clear, ruby-brown with a nice one finger thick white head that settles into a light coverage around the edges and slight lacing.

Aroma: Malty sweet, subtle spicing underneath with light dried fruit. Warming alcohol dominates as it warms. Definite earthy yeast flavors as well.

Taste: Baked biscuit flavor, followed by light sweet raisin notes. Alcohol comes through at the end. Overall the flavors seem right to style but way too light, almost watery. Finishes with some light spice, mild hop dryness and metallic aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Body is light to medium bodied with subtle carbonation.

Drinkability: Ok, but not great. Could better balanced and with fuller flavor and mouthfeel. (755 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.98/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, brownish body with a thin, wispy off-white head.

Smell: Spicy aroma with caramel malts, a bit of cocoa, and two scoops of raisins.

Taste: Caramel malt with plenty of sweetness and tart raisin fruitiness. Hint of cocoa. Light bitterness. The high level of phenols along with the alcohol make for a fairly course finish. This is what we are dealing with here, people.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation.

Drinkability: Severely lacks any depth or complexity, and what is there doesn't mesh well at all. Some beers just plain do not work for me. (582 characters)

Photo of WesWes
3.08/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The beer pours a hazy brown color with a 1/2" offwhite head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is average. It has a dry roasted, almost smokey character with some subtle fruity undertones. The taste is average as well. It has a very dry and alcohol laced flavor that boasts of roasted malts. It's thin with some smokey character. The mouthfeel is decent. It is a medium/full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is an average beer and probably one for scrap heap. I'm glad I had the chance to try it. Thanks almychristopher. (535 characters)

Photo of NEhophead
3.11/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

22 fl oz brown bottle; served in a tumbler.

Deep auburn-highlighted, light maple in color. Creamy, frothy off-white head that plasters the tumbler's sides upon impact. Thick patches of condensed lacing around half of the tumbler.

Caramelized brown sugar, nutmeg, and clove over aged, vinous fruit: plum, fig, raisin. Perfume-filled floral hops that impart off-lavender and jasmine aromas.

Mild, biscuity-toffee base with notes of diacetyl and honey. Semi-sweet brown sugar and nutmeg that is overtaken by a cutting corriander and clove spice. Notes of licorice in addition to aged cherry, raisin, and fig. A dry finish is followed by a bulky clove and warming alcohol aftertaste.

Almost full in body; a touch too carbonated that retracts from the aged fruit and makes for a dry mouthfeel.

The earthen, spicy flavors are not all that pleasant for a stab at the Dubbel style. Balanced for the most part; however, none of the individual flavor qualities really hit the mark. (976 characters)

Photo of thekevlarkid
3.2/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Out of the bomber this brew was a root beer-like brown with some ruby highlights. The head was tan and fizzy, laced ok and retained ok. Good aromas of caramelized malts, some chocolate, yeast and dates. The all malts at first, then sweeter with spices and fruits in the middle and hoppy at the end. Nice progression in this regard. The yeast however, adds an unusual twang to the symphony that really throws the whole thing off. The mouthfeel is average. In fact the beer is average, and the flavor is to blame. (511 characters)

Photo of deanhead
3.21/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Rummy with raisins. It's clear there is some alcohol in this beer.
Lacked the body I might expect in a beer like this. With that said the Mouthfeel was on the lighter side of medium. It comes in thin, then builds up as it is warms my palate

It's somewhat drinkable, but lacks dimension for this style. It just doesn't have the complex layers one would expect in a dubbel. (373 characters)

Photo of almychristopher
3.28/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

this beer pours a brown color with golden highlights, the head is tan but doesn't stick around for long. the aroma has some noticeable yeastiness about it that I don't find especially appealing. other than that there's a bit of malty sweetness, and some sort of dried fruit. the taste is much the same although the alcohol, that was only mild in the aroma is a little overbearing. the mouthfeel is a little thin for a high alcohol beer... deffinitely not my favorite beer. (472 characters)

Photo of aerozeppl
3.31/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Need deep brown color with quite a bit of haze. A finger of mocha colored head. Spotty lacing.

S: Nice sweetness and maltiness. The yeast comes through but it is not very strong. A touch of coffee in the back.

T: Much better than the nose. Roast right up front into some malt sweetness. Then a touch of coffee which is a nice departure for a dubel. Only the slightest hint of fruit that I also look for in the style.

M: A touch dry. The yeast really went to town on this beer.

D: Again for the price this is an excellent beer. It is bone dry though and that does cut down a bit on drinkability. (601 characters)

Photo of Phelps
3.37/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

"Gentlemen, we've had our fun, the game is done. The heroes we've outclassed; it proves what we've always said: nice guys finish last." - The Riddler

A: the beer sits in my tulip glass a dark mahogany, almost completely obscured, with purple-brown and light amber highlights. There's no head, save the thinnest fizzy ring.

S: cinnamon, molasses, maple and roasted pork. Interesting.

T: prunes, raisins, cinnamon, molasses and brown sugar along with an odd woody character: I'm thinking cedar. Vodka heat blasts the throat before slightly dry finish.

M: medium, velvety body and some medium, fizzy carbonation throughout. Crisp at the finish.

D: a pretty middling stout, from beginning to finish. The flavors were a bit light and I picked up some tastes and aromas that just seemed off for the style. Drinks easily enough, but not worth a second go. (857 characters)

Photo of BeerLover99
3.37/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: cloudy deep brown, trace head, little lacing

S: fig/raisin, banana, clove, malt

T: sweet raisin/fig, malt, spice, ginger finish

M: light/med, semi-dry mouth

O: Rock Art is good, but this
Dubbel could be heavier.
Nice newbie offering.

SOLID, NOT MUST HAVE! (264 characters)

Photo of duffextracold
3.4/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a reddish brown color, with a very small head. lots of floaties in there. Smells like malty raisins. Taste has chocolatey overtones, with warming alcohol, dried fruits, has a sweet, almost but not quite sour aftertaste in the back of my mouth, hard to describe, but very nice. Very uplifting, somewhat heavy carbonation, almost like seltzer. This stuff goes down way to easy for 8%. not the best, but worth a try, in my opinion. (434 characters)

Photo of Gavage
3.4/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: clear brown in color with a 1/2" head that sports some large bubbles. Some light lacing develops.

Smell: caramel, yeast, and some bitterness is detectable.

Taste: caramel, light chocolate tones, some brown sugar, ripe red grapes, yeast, and some decent bitterness creates a decent flavor profile. Some breadiness seems to come out along with some alcohol warming as the glass empties.

Mouthfeel: lightly crisp at the start, a bit smoother and dry at the finish. Pretty short aftertaste here. Medium bodied beer.

Drinkability: this one didn't overly excite me. Worth a try but if I want a Belgian Dubbel this one is close but a bit too bitter. (659 characters)

Photo of Lenny2884
3.4/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Sampled from a 22 oz. bomber

Pours a chocolate/root beer color with a 2 finger creamy white head. Smells of prune juice and bubblegum with a faint hit of root beer at the end. Taste is smooth with a nice hoppy bitterness to start, moving to a more fruity flavor, and finishing with hints of dark chocolate. Overall, a nice dubbel tho Americanized, a good sipping beer. (369 characters)

Photo of Viggo
3.41/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

At Goldoraks tasting, post-Mondial 2007! Big group of RB guys and a couple BA's, and some on both, it was a great time! I think this says Barry brought this, I can't read my writing, so thanks!

Pours a cloudy brown/red, quite opaque, thin off white head forms, leaves some decent lacing, good retention, nice ring. Smell is sweet, very malty, toffee, chocolate, berries, yeasty bread, interesting! Taste is caramel, bit of roast, bready yeast, very fruity, mixed berries, touch of alcohol. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with medium to high carbonation. Not too bad, interesting Dubbel, pretty average for the style, interesting flavours though. (644 characters)

Photo of Franchise
3.5/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a yeasty tan/orange brown leaving a thin off-white head that is clingy. The aroma is fruitastic, caramel, dates, plums, doughy soft nose.

The taste mirrors the nose soft bready slick mouthfeel. A wierd twang probably from the yeast just a faint hop bite that is herbal in nature. Fruity caramel tartness dominates this ale. Overall decent brew nothing I'd go back to though. (381 characters)

Photo of ocelot2500
3.5/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a garnet color with a tight, off-white head that leaves a ring of lacing.

Smells of caramel and toasted bread.

Tastes of some sweet fruits and a bit of bread. Notes of plum and raisin lead off with a moderate amount of sweetness. A bit of clove spice comes through, but is fairly light. Some toasted bread adds body and depth along with some caramel. Alcohol is noticeable, but not unpleasant.

Mouthfeel is medium with a smooth amount of carbonation.

Overall, a solid attempt at a dubbel. It falls in line with most American attempts at the style, but still cannot hold up against any of the Belgian brewed dubbels. (625 characters)

Photo of connecticutpoet
3.52/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This beer was hazy and brown, with lots of little floaters. Expected, with a Belgian yeast.

Aroma is of roasted malts, chocolate, rich caramel malts, slightly funky, slightly spicy, overall well balanced.

Taste was of roasted malts with hints of clove and cinnamon spiciness, with lots of dark bread character. Hops were present but not huge, and there was a long bitter aftertaste. When taking a long swallow, I noticed the fruitiness that others had talked about, and the bitter/roasted aftertaste was less prominent.

Mouthfeel was full but a little astringent.

Drinkability is just average... I finished it, and it was good, but I wouldn't go back and have it again. Then again, with so many beers out there, I rarely do. (728 characters)

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