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? The Riddler ? - Rock Art Brewery

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? The Riddler ?? The Riddler ?

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80
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78 Ratings
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Ratings: 78
Reviews: 63
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 17.43%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Rock Art Brewery visit their website
Vermont, United States

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Ah yes, lay this one down in your cellars for years to come. Enjoy this one alone for it’s malt and hop complexity.

(Beer added by: velo343 on 04-08-2007)
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Photo of jwc215
2.93/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

22 oz. bottle, poured into glass chalice:

Pours brown with a thin, fizzy off-white head that becomes a vanishing isolated patch. Looks cola-ish with a small patch that disappears.

The smell is of cocoa, some earthy spicing, some raisins. Overall it has something root beer-ish about it, with some alcohol.

The taste is of molasses, sweet cocoa, rock candy, sweetened anise. There is a pumpernickel breadiness (from yeast strain?) Alcohol comes through in a drying way. Some bittering, almost non-descript (grassy?) hops balance the sweetness - but is neither sweet nor bitter by the finish, which is rather abrupt. Looks a bit better reading the description, but the taste is so mild and "something about it" just doesn't work so well.

The feel is rather thin/weak, with a boozy kick that seems to give it more of a body than it has. It has some carbonation, but misses the boat on "Belgian-esque" - might not have aimed for it...still - it's a bit awkward in any case. An unpleasant aftertaste comes and (thankfully) goes.

There is a listing of suggested food pairings. I would rather not experiment with it to find out...too awkward, and in the end, things just don't mesh so well, for me. It does have a certain drinkability, I suppose, but wouldn't return to this despite the very reasonable price tag of about three bucks for the 22 oz. bottle.

jwc215, Jun 20, 2008
Photo of connecticutpoet
3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This beer was hazy and brown, with lots of little floaters. Expected, with a Belgian yeast.

Aroma is of roasted malts, chocolate, rich caramel malts, slightly funky, slightly spicy, overall well balanced.

Taste was of roasted malts with hints of clove and cinnamon spiciness, with lots of dark bread character. Hops were present but not huge, and there was a long bitter aftertaste. When taking a long swallow, I noticed the fruitiness that others had talked about, and the bitter/roasted aftertaste was less prominent.

Mouthfeel was full but a little astringent.

Drinkability is just average... I finished it, and it was good, but I wouldn't go back and have it again. Then again, with so many beers out there, I rarely do.

connecticutpoet, Jun 13, 2008
Photo of scottg
4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Pours a cloudy reddish brown color with a 2 finger tan creamy head with good retention and very light lacing. Aromas are a balanced mix or carmelized malt, fruity yeast & sweet cherry. Up front fruity yeast flavor with carmelized malts & sweet cherry leads to a sour cherry, lemony hop flavor, then the alcohol is detected and a chocolate malt & tart green apple finish. The malt is the backbone of this drink while the other flavors take turns leading. Full body, medium carbontion, this beer is creamy and coats the mouth early leaving it dry. Good drinkability, as it warms up the alcohol becomes more apparant.
The label says, "lay this one down in your cellars for years to come." As this ages, all those flavors will meld together very well. Looking forward to it.

scottg, Jun 04, 2008
Photo of Franchise
3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a yeasty tan/orange brown leaving a thin off-white head that is clingy. The aroma is fruitastic, caramel, dates, plums, doughy soft nose.

The taste mirrors the nose soft bready slick mouthfeel. A wierd twang probably from the yeast just a faint hop bite that is herbal in nature. Fruity caramel tartness dominates this ale. Overall decent brew nothing I'd go back to though.

Franchise, Jun 03, 2008
Photo of Sammy
3.7/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A dark brown body with a bit of white head. Recent from the brewery itself. Yeast aroma. The taste was a bit Rochfort-like and drying. Hop bitterness in the end. Not as full mouthfeel as I would like, but a satisfying Belgian effort nevertheless and one of the better ones from this brewery that I have tried.

Sammy, Jun 01, 2008
Photo of Jwale73
3.63/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to ThirstyBird for sharing this one. Poured a murky mahogany brown. Half-inch off-white head with good retention left behind trails of sticky lacing during the tasting. Aromas of caramel and brown sugar, as well as an alcohol and fruity character, but difficult to tease apart. Spicy taste, as well as a mild whiskey character. Flavor profile is very complex on this one. There is definitely a slight bready quality, and the taste of dark fruit is fairly pronounced, but I had a problem breaking this one down. Medium-bodied mouthfeel with well-balanced carbonation. Drinkability is decent on this one. Alcohol was well-hidden, but complexity makes this one a sipper. Also, I didn't feel like this was consistent with a dubbel. Seemed closer to an old ale to me. I'd be curious to see how this one ages.

Jwale73, May 26, 2008
Photo of kennyo
3.6/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

picked up a bottle at the Oak Lawn beer store

Pours a brownish/reddish color, kind of like mahogony?. Big tan head that disapates fairly quickly. Beer is a little hazy,
Aroma is malt, Spanish fino Sherry
Taste is chocolate, malty, slight alcohol, dark grains, some belgian yeast qualities. As the beer warmed up, alcohol became more prevelant.
Easy drinking beer.
Glad that found this one from the Rock Art Extreme Beer Series
22 oz bottle

kennyo, May 25, 2008
Photo of JMScowcroft
4.33/5  rDev +23.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Look - Cool labeling, as usual for Rock Art. Pours a brown and settles a dark brown in the glass. Can only see light on the sides of it if you try to look through the glass as it is unfiltered. Head is frothy, but not huge. Good looking brew.

Smell - Very light scent, smells like it will be thick. Definite chocolate and malt overtones here. Could have a bit more body to it here but it's still nice.

Taste - Mostly what I expected, but a few surprises. Chocolate rushes in and is stricken down by bitterness and then hops, the creaminess from the chocolate remains.

Mouthfeel - Perfect, the creaminess remains with a twinge of bitter, very hearty and drinks like a filling snack.

Drinkability - I usually don't drink thick beers in high quality, but for being a Dubbel, and a thick one at that, and being 8.0%, this sure is an easy brew to drink.

It's everything I expected and more, great beer.

JMScowcroft, May 13, 2008
Photo of brdc
3.68/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks mixylplik3 for this one.
Nice looking dark brown brew, covered by a nice, creamy tan head with good retention and lacing.
Aroma has dark fruits, yeast, malty sweetness and some spiciness.
Creamy on the mouth, the taste is not nearly as sweet as the aroma suggested; in fact, right upfront is a somewhat awkward bitterness, along with some alcohol heat that interfere with the fruitiness and candy sweetness.
Good, but not great.

brdc, May 03, 2008
Photo of smcolw
3.8/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Cloudy and dark amber with a beige, finely bubbled head. It leaves decent lace on the glass.

Sweet cocoa aroma--very close to the smell of an open can of Hersey's. A little overpowering as I cannot smell anything else.

Very different from the smell--the chocolate is only present at the initial sip. Soon, the alcohol warmth takes over along with light yeast. The ending features the hop for the first time (32 IBU's)--it soft. The aftertaste brings back the cocoa. The body is spot on with some creaminess.

smcolw, Feb 24, 2008
Photo of dsa7783
2.75/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

1 Pint, 6 fl oz bottle copped for $3.05 from Wine and Liquor Outlet in Boonton... Brown bottle logo claims that this sample was "Influenced by a Belgian yeast..."... Pours an attractive murky-brown complexion with some carbonation visible and a decent-sized frothy head that soon receded... smell had a noticeable caramel and slightly sugared aroma to it... Although the nose was decent, I was pretty dissapointed by the taste, which was a very bitter, slightly sour and not-at-all tasty representation of a dubbel... a clear lack of complexity, rounded off by an off-balanced malt combination leads to an undesirable, bitter finish and poor aftertaste... Mouthfeel was more light and watered-down than anything, and the drinkability was poor due to the fact that this beer lacked any real depth or character to it... This one was a miss... Not recommended...

dsa7783, Feb 21, 2008
Photo of Gavage
3.4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: clear brown in color with a 1/2" head that sports some large bubbles. Some light lacing develops.

Smell: caramel, yeast, and some bitterness is detectable.

Taste: caramel, light chocolate tones, some brown sugar, ripe red grapes, yeast, and some decent bitterness creates a decent flavor profile. Some breadiness seems to come out along with some alcohol warming as the glass empties.

Mouthfeel: lightly crisp at the start, a bit smoother and dry at the finish. Pretty short aftertaste here. Medium bodied beer.

Drinkability: this one didn't overly excite me. Worth a try but if I want a Belgian Dubbel this one is close but a bit too bitter.

Gavage, Feb 20, 2008
Photo of weeare138
3.6/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appears a dark chestnut brown with a small CO2 pockets rising to the top. The small, off-white head slowly fades into a mild cap and thick collar. Spotty lacing is left around the glass.
Smell is of bready, caramel, cocoa, and brown sugar.
Taste is of the same with toasted nuts in the flavor and light bitter flowers with toasted pecans rounding out the flavors.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, sweet up front with bitter cocoa, mild astringency, with nougat lingering.
This is a pretty yummy beer overall. Perhaps one of the best outings from Rock Art. It may be the first beer I remember them using a Belgian yeast strain for fermentation.

weeare138, Feb 19, 2008
Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.98/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, brownish body with a thin, wispy off-white head.

Smell: Spicy aroma with caramel malts, a bit of cocoa, and two scoops of raisins.

Taste: Caramel malt with plenty of sweetness and tart raisin fruitiness. Hint of cocoa. Light bitterness. The high level of phenols along with the alcohol make for a fairly course finish. This is what we are dealing with here, people.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation.

Drinkability: Severely lacks any depth or complexity, and what is there doesn't mesh well at all. Some beers just plain do not work for me.

ChainGangGuy, Jan 23, 2008
Photo of SixpointJMH
4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nice dark brown colour with a big foamy tan head that has moderate retention time and leaves a nice amount of chunky residue on the glass.

The aroma has a good blend of dark berries, slight candy sugar, a bit of earthy malt, perhaps a touch of clove and also a hint of alcohol. There's a lot going on here but all is blended together nicely.

The flavour is essentially more of the same: dark berries sweetness leads the way and blends with a bit of a more tart raisin flavour. The middle of each sip blends a slight touch of Belgian sugar flavour with some alcohol notes that are certainly more noticeable here. The finish of each sip is dry and earthy/dirty. Good stuff. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a bit of chewiness to it.

This one of course gets better as it warms, so let it sit outside the fridge for a while before drinking. Well balanced and full of flavour. Another nice one from Rock Art.

SixpointJMH, Dec 31, 2007
Photo of Lenny2884
3.4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Sampled from a 22 oz. bomber

Pours a chocolate/root beer color with a 2 finger creamy white head. Smells of prune juice and bubblegum with a faint hit of root beer at the end. Taste is smooth with a nice hoppy bitterness to start, moving to a more fruity flavor, and finishing with hints of dark chocolate. Overall, a nice dubbel tho Americanized, a good sipping beer.

Lenny2884, Dec 27, 2007
Photo of deanhead
3.2/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Rummy with raisins. It's clear there is some alcohol in this beer.
Lacked the body I might expect in a beer like this. With that said the Mouthfeel was on the lighter side of medium. It comes in thin, then builds up as it is warms my palate

It's somewhat drinkable, but lacks dimension for this style. It just doesn't have the complex layers one would expect in a dubbel.

deanhead, Dec 03, 2007
Photo of YonderWanderer
3.88/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a hazy deep reddish brown color. Decent head with some nice lacing left behind.

S: Raisins, sweetness, a bit of breadiness, and more.

T: Similar to the smell. Lots of fruit in this one - raisins, dates, grapes, as well as a bit of breadiness and some other flavors I can't quite pin down. Very tasty overall.

M: A little viscous, but nice. Smooth overall.

D: This is a nice take on the Belgian style by Rock Art. I don't think I'd drink a lot of these, but they definitely make for a nice change of pace.

YonderWanderer, Oct 26, 2007
Photo of iceball585
3.73/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Very dark red hue, one finger thick tan head that disapated slowly to a thin lacy layer, fine yeast sediment throughout

S- Raisens, toasted malts, nuts, slight hint of caramel

T- Dried fruits(mostly raisens and dates), grassy, wheat, coffee, yeast, spices, pepper, oranges, carrots, baker's chocolate, overall fairly bitter taste

M- Strong crisp kick of flavor begining that quickly disappears to a warm alcohol feeling

D- Really complex, but couldn't drink more than one is a sitting

The name of this beer is definatly fitting because it really keeps you guessing on what flavors you taste. It's like a quick kick to the mouth of 50 flavors that leaves you saying... "what the hell was that?" Also you can really taste the alcohol in this one after a few sips from the glass.

iceball585, Oct 02, 2007
Photo of Billolick
4.33/5  rDev +23.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bomber, w/o freshness indication/info. Pours darker amber, fine tan head, leaving nice looking tiny bubble lacing and sheeting. Nose is of Belgian yeasty spicing, raisins and sweet malts. Smooth, soft on the tongue, flavorful offering, plenty of raisins, more typical spicy, phenolic Belgian characteristics and yeasty goodness.This is simply a yummy beer, full of nice malty notes, some warming alcohol and flavorful goodness. I like it. 8% well hidden, went great with some nuts, cheese and dark bread. The "extreme" selections from Rock Art are impressing me, more then their regular beers.

Billolick, Sep 27, 2007
Photo of edchicma
4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark chestnut with a nice head, followed by good lacing. Smell is distinctly malt with a nice mellow quality. Taste is a nice malt blast that is followed by a tart hoppy presence. Definite alcohol presence. Nice mouthfeel..smooth, finishing in a dry refreshing way. Rates above average in the drinkability area..smooth and refreshing for a high abv.

edchicma, Aug 10, 2007
Photo of Viggo
3.4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

At Goldoraks tasting, post-Mondial 2007! Big group of RB guys and a couple BA's, and some on both, it was a great time! I think this says Barry brought this, I can't read my writing, so thanks!

Pours a cloudy brown/red, quite opaque, thin off white head forms, leaves some decent lacing, good retention, nice ring. Smell is sweet, very malty, toffee, chocolate, berries, yeasty bread, interesting! Taste is caramel, bit of roast, bready yeast, very fruity, mixed berries, touch of alcohol. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with medium to high carbonation. Not too bad, interesting Dubbel, pretty average for the style, interesting flavours though.

Viggo, Jul 15, 2007
Photo of Truh
4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Was attacked by a man in green tights with this one on 7/1/2007. 1 pt. 6 fl. oz. bomber poured twcie in a goblet.

A somewhat off-white 1/4-inch head starts things up, with a minimal touch off stick; the thick initial stuff dies down to just a whisper of a trace. Winking ochre hue is a touch hazy but still allows for the eye to discern some loosely scrambling action. Lots of watermelon bubblegum on the nose, with some prune juice notes, as well as root beer barrels, black strap molasses, and some light ashen scent. On the mouth, some definite fruity banana spins first, followed by a rock candy sweetness and s somewhat sulphrous backing. As it warms, there are some more fruit tones noted - raspberries, white grapes, and even a bit of kiwi. Body is fairly even keel, middle of the road.

Am happily surprised by yet another in their extreme series.

Truh, Jul 01, 2007
Photo of brewandbbq
3.78/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark chestnut with ruby hues, and perfect clarity.
A beige head rose to a half inch before falling to a 90% coverage skim coating of fine beads.
Aromatics are well-on for a dubble. Cocoa and phenols.
Shades of raisins and dried figs, with dark caramel-drizzled bubblegum. Some mild fusels waft upward, promising some warmth on the pallet.
Mouthfeel is somewhat smooth, but is hindered by a fairly aggresive bitterness. Almost astringent.
Pallet is chocolaty and a bit boozy. A heavy handed hopping profile steps forward, with a considerable amount of spicy bitters.
The raisins and figs promised in the nose are there, but are overtaken by the warming alcohols and a somewhat rough biterness.
Finishes warming with a lingering aftertaste of bakers chocolate.

A little over the top for a dubble, lacking the creamyness and sophistication of a better example.

brewandbbq, Jun 29, 2007
Photo of goodbyeohio
4.2/5  rDev +20%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

yes, the question marks are actually in the title

picked up at winooski beverage in burlington (winooski) vt. 22oz. "influenced by a belgian yeast".

yeah, i gotcha. belgian yeast all the way, with more off-the-wall american spirit.

hazy brown and amber, rich creamy top. aroma exudes a layered sweetness, but not saccharine. maple syrup, glazed carrots and raisin puree... with a touch of candi sugar for even more depth. if i didn't know any better, i'd say young american quad right off the bat.

first sip bites back with fresh noble hops.. slightly peppery and perfumey, which plays nice off the sweet hints already present in the aroma. very drinkable, if not a bit overhopped. belgian at heart still.. calling this a dark hoppy tripel would be the most appropriate tag to hang on this extremely experimental beer. green and dry, i feel the slightly vegetal mish-mash might be hiding a bit too much of the datey-pruney flavors that make a quad a sipping champ (i can tell they are there, just muted). with each venture away from the flagship crap, they are truly improving. for rock art, this is probably their best effort to date (followed closely by the mountain bock and infusco).

the hell's bock, on the other hand, was utter shite. avoid at all costs.

goodbyeohio, Jun 21, 2007
? The Riddler ? from Rock Art Brewery
80 out of 100 based on 78 ratings.