1. The wait is over! Download the BeerAdvocate app on iTunes or Google Play now.
  2. Get 12 issues / year of BeerAdvocate magazine for only $9.99!

Redhook 8-4-1 Expedition - Redhook Ale Brewery

Not Rated.
Redhook 8-4-1 ExpeditionRedhook 8-4-1 Expedition

Displayed for educational use only; do not reuse.
BA SCORE
82
good

102 Ratings
THE BROS
-
no score

(send 'em beer!)
Ratings: 102
Reviews: 86
rAvg: 3.63
pDev: 10.47%
Wants: 0
Gots: 10 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Redhook Ale Brewery visit their website
United States

Style | ABV
American Strong Ale |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
An American-Style Strong Brown Ale developed by eight Redhook brewers working in four teams of two to create one beer. The ale reflects a compilation of each team’s individual receipes that were then carefully blended into one distinct beer. 8-4-1 Expedition Ale offers complexy flavor notes, delivering malty sweetness, medium bitterness with hints of smoked flavors and oak chips balanced by the addition of honey, brown sugar and candi sugar.

55 IBU

(Beer added by: henrysunset on 02-09-2010)
Beer: Ratings & Reviews
Sort by:  Usefulness | Recent | High | Low | Top Raters
« first ‹ prev | 1-25 | 26-50 | 51-75  | next › last »
Ratings: 102 | Reviews: 86 | Display Reviews Only:
Reviews by the Alström Bros:

  None found.

More User Reviews:
Photo of lordofthewiens
3.43/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

In a snifter this beer was a cherry amber color with a small tan head. A fair amount of lace. It had a sweet, honey aroma, some fruit, and a spicey/peppery aroma. Sweet honey taste, cherry, piney hops. But (and sometimes there's always a but) the mouthfeel was entirely too sharp and medicinal, like drinking Robitussin. Not likely to try this again.

lordofthewiens, Apr 28, 2010
Photo of iemailjack
3/5  rDev -17.4%

iemailjack, Jan 09, 2013
Photo of Billolick
3.63/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bomber, spring 2010 offering, March 08 10 on the label, bottling date? Pours murky dark plum amber, frothy dark tan head, that stays, leaves a thick collar, and short lived sheeting that remains as thicker lace. The nose is loaded up with honey, vanilla, light wood, and these flavor sensations follow through to the palate, with a slightly more pronounced woody note. Enjoyable, perhaps a bit thin to be compared to the heavy weights of the style. But enjoyable none the less. A stronger offering in the Red Hook line.

Billolick, Apr 20, 2010
Photo of Mora2000
3.9/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a clear brown color with a large khaki head. The aroma is honey, oak and caramel malt. Overall, the aroma is not that impressive and could be a little stronger and more up front. The flavor is heavy on the oak with some chocolate and toasted malts. The oak is a little overwhelming and could be toned down a bit, but it is still pretty good. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Mora2000, May 19, 2010
Photo of jondeelee
3.1/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

8-4-1 Expedition Ale (the spring 2010 batch)--an oak aged ale brewed with honey--begins with a sweet, malty nose, loaded with brown sugars, apricot, pear, hints of banana, and a nice grapefruit hop counter, all atop a baked-bread grain base.

On the tongue, the hops kick in immediately, washing the tongue with grapefruit and pine notes. Beneath this is a good layer of malts, including brown sugars, vanillas, a hint of cola, and white grape. Just at the end, the cherry-wood smoked malts make an appearance, bringing a husky, yet sweet grain touch. The aftertaste is mainly hops, though some of the sweet malty fruit esters linger on. Mouthfeel is medium-light, and carbonation is medium-high.

Overall, while I quite like the flavors in here, I find myself wishing that the hops weren't as prevalent, as they tended to overpower the malts and wash out many of the fruity, sugary notes. As well, a slight alcohol tinge (9.5% ABV) is present in the mouthful, increasing in potency at the very end of the aftertaste. I found the beer very drinkable, but not quite to the level that the "Limited Release" label, or the "8 brewers working in 4 teams" story led me to believe.

jondeelee, Jul 31, 2011
Photo of whoneeds8
3/5  rDev -17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottling date March 8, 2010.

Poured into a pint glass a transparent dark amber with a one finger off white froathy head. Good retentiona and great lacing all the way down. No apparent scent to my really bad nose. I mean I'm getting nothing out of this nose. The taste is rather benign. It has typical brown ale flavor but the promise of an oak flavor is very abscent. There is a good amount of brown sugar flavor that might be too strong. Not enough of anything else to really distinct this as anything but a really strong brown ale. There is a slight alcohol burn to the mouthfeel. Over all, this "limited" is just that . . . one and done.

whoneeds8, Jun 09, 2010
Photo of glid02
3.6/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle purchased from Green's on Ponce in Atlanta - I figured I'd give them another chance after I was pleasantly surprised by Treblehook.

Pours a clear amber-brown color with a half-finger off-white head. The head dissipates quickly into a wispy layer on top leaving thin lacing.

Smells of mild amounts of honey with milder still amounts of muted toasted malts. Also present and fuller as the beer warms are vanilla and indistinct fruit aromas.

Tastes a bit better than how it smells. Caramel and lightly toasted malt flavors kick things off with a bit more body than they exhibited in the aroma. Following are very light hints of smokiness and heavier hints of honey and vanilla. Near the end of the sip mild amounts of medium fruit flavors enter into things before a mildly bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a smooth thickness with grainy carbonation.

Drinkability is alright. I finished my glass however I'm not very sure about another.

Overall I was let down by this beer, especially after Treblehook. Not worth seeking out but I wouldn't turn one down if offered.

glid02, Apr 25, 2010
Photo of Sammy
3.65/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks for bringing Jason. A decent unique imperial brown. Medium brown colour with a white head and lacey. Malty, smooth, with honey, chocolate malts, and a puff of smoke.Nicely drinkable as many malts but the tad of smoke and a drop of hops seemed to balance it off. Worth having once.

Sammy, Jun 23, 2010
Photo of fairdinkum2
3.53/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a large format bottle into a tulip glass. The beer has a pleasing dark amber, clear appearance and a light tan head. Some lacing, but the head dissipated pretty quickly to nothing.

Expected more aromas from this style. Faint vanilla, some hoppiness. Same with the taste. A little disappointing. I really expected something bolder than this. Some orange peel and a reasonable level of hoppiness. However, there's really nothing that sets this Imperial IPA apart from other contenders.

A decent ale, easy to drink, but there are better alternatives.

fairdinkum2, Apr 22, 2010
Photo of hreb
3.78/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Cold 22oz bomber dated Mar 08 10. At 9.5% ABV time shouldn't have done it any harm, I hope (I should note that I only recently came into possession of this bottle from the store -- I didn't let it sit around for a year myself). Served in pint glass, beer is deep brown with a hint of red, appears very syrupy, with a thin but dense dark chestnut brown head which falls quickly. Super malty aroma.

First sip is powerfully subtle. Yes, this is wicked malty. Yes, there are the standard nutty and toasty notes you expect in a beer this color. Yes, there is or was brown sugar in there. Yes, it's a little heavy, final gravity wise. But the malt isn't cloying and the roasted barley doesn't become chalky. Hop flavors are secondary and not particular defined, just straight up alpha acid bitterness. This has about as close to zero aftertaste as you can possibly imagine. It's just that perfectly balanced.

Not only that, but there's nothing to betray the alcohol content, either.

The label makes a few additional claims which flavor-wise aren't the dominant parts of this beer:

1. Oak-aged. I'd say the 8 brewers were 100% successful using oak to mellow and enhance the flavors without adding new "smack you in the face with a plank" ones.

2. Brewed with honey. I wouldn't have guessed. My guess is the yeast fermented the adjunct entirely, drying the brew out a bit and pumping the ABV.

3. Cherry-wood smoked malts. I don't see it at all. Any smoked malt flavors are completely buried underneath roasted malt flavors for me.

In spite of all the good things I have to say about this beer, it'll never be a great beer. The high-wire balancing act is impressive, but the result is a not particularly interesting high ABV ale. Its subtleties are more bland than complex. I guess what I'm saying is, don't waste your time, because I'll finish this one for you. :)

hreb, Aug 24, 2011
Photo of cjgator3
2.83/5  rDev -22%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

22oz bottle

A- Pours a dark brown color with a light tan head.

S- The aroma is a lot fainter than expected for a high ABV barrel aged beer. The nose has some malt and caramel and maybe a hint of wood.. I'm not picking up much of the barrel aging in the nose. The hops are pretty subdued as well. Not a horrible aroma, just pretty subdued for a beer of this style.

T- The taste starts out with some malt and caramel with a good amount of sweetness. I'm picking up some wood notes as well from the barrel aging along with some bitterness in the finish. I like the front end of the taste, not a huge fan of the finish. The hop bitterness in the finish just doesn't fit in with the rest of the beer.

M- The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation.

D- Overall, I wasn't very impressed with this offering. Wouldn't purchase this one again.

cjgator3, Aug 08, 2010
Photo of telecomz
3.83/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Beer pours to a nice hazy mahogany. Nice thick head.

Light aroma. What I do love is that careful stufy yields a very noticeable honey aroma. Love that.

Sweet and dark upfront. Malt and honey form a syrupy texture. Some dark fruit. Lovely. Disappointed with the lack of smokiness promised in the cherrywood smoked malt.

This beer is too hot. Tastes hotter than its already high ABV. Age this for 12 to 24 months and you will be rewarded well.

telecomz, Oct 23, 2010
Photo of silver0rlead
3.6/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark mahogany color with a frothy tan head that retains well, and leaves pretty lacing. The aroma is a little underwhelming, with a big brown sugar presence, along with some caramel, a little smoke, toasted bread, fig and plum and a bit of alcohol. The flavor is similar to the aroma with a big brown sugar presence, along with some molasses and caramel, a little rum, some light smoke, mineraly bitterness, raisin and date, and alcohol. The mouthfeel is lighter than expected and drinakbility is pretty good considering the ABV. A decent but unremarkable offering from Redhook, they need to amp up the hops and the smoke and this would really be something.

silver0rlead, May 13, 2010
Photo of russpowell
3.5/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked this up in Kansas, bottled in March 2019

Pours crimson with 2 fingers of tan head. Great head retention & average lacing

S: Plums & cakey notes, plus some leafy hops once warm

T: Follows the nose, subtle boozeyness, a hint of cherry, vanilla & herbal hops up front. Some oaky/boozey notes as this warms, also a bit of pine & caramel, plus more figs & a touch of raisins

MF: Kind of thin bodied for the style, firm carbonation. This thickens up a bit, once warm, good balance

Not a bad take on the style, but not a good as I hoped. Still; I'm happy to see Red Hook spread it's wings, love the extra effort on gussying up the bottle art as well...

russpowell, Mar 30, 2011
Photo of Bung
3.58/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. Surprisingly lighter brown pour, a good finger of off white head. Recedes to a thin layer.

Aroma is kind of malty, toffee and brown sugar. Some old tea, acidic juice.

Taste is a bit bitter, more of a burnt bitter than hop bitterness. Some malt, caramel, brown sugar, burnt brown sugar. Quite a bit of tea and burnt brown sugar. Some woody oak, pine hops, but more leather and a bit of acridness, cranberry?

Mouthfeel is pretty lively, lighter medium body. Only warming after a bit. Drinkability is fairly good from this, if you can get over some of the burnt sugar characteristics.

Not quite sure what to make of this one really. Not bad, but well....not sure.

Bung, May 28, 2010
Photo of CHILLINDYLAN
3.8/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Clear amber with orange highlights. Big frothy creamy light tan head. Some sticky patches of lace.

Honey and raw sugar. Cherries. Lemon zest. Earthy, woody, smokey. Vanilla and a touch of booze. Toasty caramel malt.

Honey coated cherries. Sweet toasty caramel. Smokey, woody, and earthy. Slightly medicinal booze, and vanilla. Lemony citrus bitterness. dry smokey finish.

Rich and thick, drying. MedFull body. Steady medium carbonation.

Tasty and interesting brew. Sweet and toasty with some wood, smoke, and booze. Doesnt quite seem like 9%. Glad to have tried.

CHILLINDYLAN, Oct 14, 2010
Photo of cgmees
3.43/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Billed as an imperial brown ale, brewed with brown sugar and cherry wood smoked malts.

Appearance was a rich dark brown color, hint of cloudiness. Huge foamy brown colored head.

The aroma is a little underwhelming, with a big brown sugar presence, along with some caramel, a little smoke, and a bit of alcohol.

Taste had a mild earthiness, some chocolate and smoke.

OK Drink ability. Was not as impressed as I hoped to be from this one.

cgmees, May 30, 2010
Photo of Docer
3.28/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Found a bottle... poured...

- Clear dark murky brown.... quick fizzy head down to nothing much left but a slight ring.

- Smelled the room up kind of boozy-like.... sweet, woody... and slightly grainy. Unique... and too unique.

- Sweet, and the honey is there.... clear and present. Woody thin.... slight hops.. sweet malt... and oak. All the stated flavors are there.... but it is kind of a mess. Strong, but yet smooth.

- As stated... strong, yet smooth... slight medicinal hint of alcohol... thin, but parching dry.

- Overall I finished the bottle... but the flavors just seemed like they were designated for other beers. It's almost spilled out just like the numbers numerate. The flavors were just intended for different beers, and this was too much all for one. Interesting, and loved the bottle.

Docer, Apr 24, 2010
Photo of goldbot
2.98/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours dark brown with thin, off-white to tan head. Mostly clear with plenty of carbonation. Not much head retention or lacing. Smells like almost nothing. A hint of grainy malt and a slight whiff of oak, otherwise barren. Tons of oak flavor without being overpowering. Tannic but again not overly so; there's no mouth-puckering effect from the oak. Caramel and bready malts back up the oak. This beer isn't bad but it is kind of a one track oak affair; not much else going on in it.

goldbot, Dec 30, 2010
Photo of GhostMilk
4.38/5  rDev +20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Wow, after reading a few reviews and then actually tasting the beer for myself I was surprised this one hasn't been more well received. I suppose the smoke and wood flavors could be amped up slightly... but as is, I completely enjoyed the subtle complexities of this finely crafted beer.

The ABV is hidden very well, and though there is sweetness it is not at all cloying. The flavor of burnt sugar matches beautifully with the cherry-wood smoked malts, and the aging in oak barrels adds additional balance to the sweetness of honey and brown sugar.

Definitely the best beer I've ever tasted from Redhook.

GhostMilk, May 15, 2010
Photo of jaydoc
3.5/5  rDev -3.6%

jaydoc, Dec 30, 2013
Photo of tln13
3.5/5  rDev -3.6%

tln13, Apr 21, 2012
Photo of LiquidAmber
3.08/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Review from 5/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a dark red brown, thin off-white head. Aroma of caramel malt and light fruit. Spice and fruits apparent on opening. Smells nice. Initial flavors of hops, fruit and light malt, middle spicy with fruits. Finish sharp, acrid, like quinine. The aftertaste is not good. An interesting beer with a major flaw in the finish.

LiquidAmber, Aug 03, 2012
Photo of mikesgroove
4.25/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

dark caramel in color with an off-white head that reached a height of around two inches before settling back down. Light lacing coating the side of the glass. Aroma is hops, piney with light citrus notes but a load of cinnamon and spice as well. Seems as though I have run into this before with another of their one off's, just seems really familiar. Letting it open up gives me nice touches of caramel and bready malts, a rich and well balanced hoppiness that seems to fade in and out during the session. Nice feel, hearty with great carbonation that still allows it to have some pop to it. Whatever the ABV was it was well hidden and I was able to enjoy this one thoroughly without issue and leaving that nice dry, lightly bitter finish capped it

mikesgroove, Sep 19, 2011
Photo of IdrinkGas
3/5  rDev -17.4%

IdrinkGas, Nov 12, 2013
« first ‹ prev | 1-25 | 26-50 | 51-75  | next › last »
Redhook 8-4-1 Expedition from Redhook Ale Brewery
82 out of 100 based on 102 ratings.