Redhook 8-4-1 Expedition - Redhook Ale Brewery

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104 Ratings
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Ratings: 104
Reviews: 86
rAvg: 3.63
pDev: 10.47%
Wants: 0
Gots: 10 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Redhook Ale Brewery visit their website
New Hampshire, United States

Style | ABV
American Strong Ale |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
An American-Style Strong Brown Ale developed by eight Redhook brewers working in four teams of two to create one beer. The ale reflects a compilation of each team’s individual receipes that were then carefully blended into one distinct beer. 8-4-1 Expedition Ale offers complexy flavor notes, delivering malty sweetness, medium bitterness with hints of smoked flavors and oak chips balanced by the addition of honey, brown sugar and candi sugar.

55 IBU

(Beer added by: henrysunset on 02-09-2010)
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Photo of Sammy
3.65/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks for bringing Jason. A decent unique imperial brown. Medium brown colour with a white head and lacey. Malty, smooth, with honey, chocolate malts, and a puff of smoke.Nicely drinkable as many malts but the tad of smoke and a drop of hops seemed to balance it off. Worth having once.

Photo of zestar
3.5/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of nmann08
4/5  rDev +10.2%

Photo of metter98
3.63/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer poured relatively deep amber in color with a thin head. A light amount of carbonation leaves persistent lacing patterns.
S: There are aromas of piney hops and caramel malts in the nose along with some hints of cherries and oak.
T: The caramel malts and brown sugar flavors lend some sweetness in the overall taste; there are also notes of cherries, honey and oak.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate with some dryness.
D: This is a beer that definitely needs to be sipped. There's no way that I could have more than one of these in a sitting.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.1/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark bittersweet orange with a infusion of brick red... which isn't too crazy a color for an Imperial brown ale. A three finger head of tight-bubbled, ecru hued foam does a fine job plugging the top of the pint glass. When it finally begins to fade, it leaves a respectable amount of lace in shredded sheets.

The nose is akin to a toasted-earthy barleywine whose alcohol could be more completely buried. For a beer with this many ingredients (6 malts, 5 hops, honey, brown sugar, oak aging), precious few of them are appreciated on the sniff.

8-4-1 Expedition is closer to a miss than a hit. Imperial brown ale doesn't seem to fit, so it's probably best to stick with American strong ale. As in the nose, nothing really stands out on the palate... expect alcohol that is borderline hot. Improvement (softening) with warming is this brew's only real hope to snag an above-average taste score.

The malts are steely caramel-like with the slightest bit of wood smoke imaginable. None of the hops (Alchemy, Cascade, Willamette, Crystal and Sterling) make a bold move. Honey? No. Brown sugar? Uh-uh. Oak? Maybe a little. Sorry, but this unfocused mish-mash never does come together into anything resembling good beer.

The body/mouthfeel is actually respectable if your standards aren't too high. Slightly too boisterous bubbles (that aren't fading quickly enough) keep the score from climbing up to the next highest number.

Craft beer kudos to the brewers at Redhook for aiming high with this Limited Release, but they need to follow through and actually hit a target that's worth hitting. This stuff comes across as 'big beer for big beer's sake' and isn't an Expedition that I care to take again. Not even if it's a short walk across a lightly traveled street.

Photo of jaydoc
3.5/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of mikesgroove
4.25/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

dark caramel in color with an off-white head that reached a height of around two inches before settling back down. Light lacing coating the side of the glass. Aroma is hops, piney with light citrus notes but a load of cinnamon and spice as well. Seems as though I have run into this before with another of their one off's, just seems really familiar. Letting it open up gives me nice touches of caramel and bready malts, a rich and well balanced hoppiness that seems to fade in and out during the session. Nice feel, hearty with great carbonation that still allows it to have some pop to it. Whatever the ABV was it was well hidden and I was able to enjoy this one thoroughly without issue and leaving that nice dry, lightly bitter finish capped it

Photo of TMoney2591
3.48/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a Dogfish Head snifter.

Is there any style so vaguley named and defined as "American Strong Ale"? I would say no. Still, compared to other such brews, I'd have to say that this guy is one of the best-looking I've seen. After the initial pour, I left the snifter in the kitchen momentarily to let it settle and to prepare the living room table for the impending meal (frozen/microwaveable fettuccine). Upon my return, I found Shania Twain on my counter. I literally said, "Nice!" I did. Sitting there was a dark uncut garnet topped by a solid finger of gypsum. It was the strong ale equivalent of the Guinness look. Now, while I've been typing this, that "Birth of Venus" seafoam has settled away, but I cannot deny the perfection that I bore witness to (and, besides, this new look isn't all that bad either). Gotta tell ya, expectations are running quite high. And, of course, the smell punches these expectations in the gut. "How dare you expect good things?" Optimism be damned, indeed: A weak line of leather, dark malts, alcohol, and that new paint smell (I've always described it as some variety of cranberries or an as-yet-unidentified cran-X blend, but am not sure why). It isn't necessarily wholly bad, but assuredly a knock to the system. Now I don't know what to expect, which could actually be a positive here: If my expectations aren't set on either side of the spectrum, a Heisenbergian situation, it's statistically improbable that they will be unmet or even met altogether. The perfect tasting storm. Sadly, though, the taste follows the nose a bit too closely. That brushed suede returns, not realizing how out-of-style it is; the cran-X has transmogrified into a figgy appletini; and the dark malts have become more wheaty than anything. Some mild coffee notes drift around as though smoking were still allowed at some Starbucks somewhere. All-in-all, an average performance on the tongue. At least I can't say that it was entirely disagreeable. Though I can see all sorts o' bubbly goodness throughout the glass, the carbonation is pretty low, or at least undistinguished. As such, the body is able to let itself go; unfortunately, because of the ho-hum flavors, this heftiness is perceived as just plain fat, teased by those cruel schoolyard punks. Honestly, I can't see myself really going after this brew again, but I also can't see myself turning people away from it in stores. It's a Calipari point guard in the eyes of ultra-loyal collegiate fans.

Photo of jlindros
4.08/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Should have had this a couple years ago, as the honey is probably long gone, but we'll see. From spring 2010.

pours a nice creamy almost 1 finger head that fades at a med pace, decent lacing, semi clear but darker chestnut brown color.

Nose is huge, tons of brown malt aromas, brown sugar, molasses, toffee, candied pecans and other hearty nuts, sugary sweet almost syrup, hint of minerals, and faintest hint of cherry wood smoke.

Taste starts with more toasty brown malts, even slightly creamy, sweet brown sugar galore, molasses, light toffee and caramel like, lots of fluffy soft brown malts and even light aged brown malts like an old ale taste. Toasty, with a light candy, candied pecans and again hearty nuts, with a light syrupy candy, and faint hint of toasty oak. Hints of grassy hops, and touch of minerals and salty like flavor from earthy hops and touch of smoke. Unfortunately the honey is gone aside from slight hint if honey sweetness in the middle. Finish is still fairly sweet with lots more brown sugar, soft toasty malts, and hint if smoke and chewy spicy hops lingering.

Mouth is med bodied, slightly creamy and fluffy, nice carb, pretty much no booze.

Overall pretty nice, just missing the honey. Great brown malts, nice sweet flavors, and even nice blend of hops. Booze is hidden well, and the aging really seemed to make it better I think.

Photo of russpowell
3.5/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked this up in Kansas, bottled in March 2019

Pours crimson with 2 fingers of tan head. Great head retention & average lacing

S: Plums & cakey notes, plus some leafy hops once warm

T: Follows the nose, subtle boozeyness, a hint of cherry, vanilla & herbal hops up front. Some oaky/boozey notes as this warms, also a bit of pine & caramel, plus more figs & a touch of raisins

MF: Kind of thin bodied for the style, firm carbonation. This thickens up a bit, once warm, good balance

Not a bad take on the style, but not a good as I hoped. Still; I'm happy to see Red Hook spread it's wings, love the extra effort on gussying up the bottle art as well...

Photo of Mora2000
3.9/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a clear brown color with a large khaki head. The aroma is honey, oak and caramel malt. Overall, the aroma is not that impressive and could be a little stronger and more up front. The flavor is heavy on the oak with some chocolate and toasted malts. The oak is a little overwhelming and could be toned down a bit, but it is still pretty good. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Photo of wrightst
3.75/5  rDev +3.3%

Photo of Halcyondays
3.6/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

22 oz. bomber,

A: Pours a dark red brown with a full white head, very good head retention and lace.

S: Honey, crystal malt and ethanol.

T: Sweet crystal malt and some honey upfront. Some brown sugar and ethanol mid-palate, with a finish of grapefruit/hops.

M: Medium-bodied, kind of thin on the palate - it doesn't carry it's 9.5% weight as it should though. Nice aftertaste.

D: Pretty easy drinking for it's size. A good beer though the flavours aren't as big as I hoped they'd be. This is still quality stuff. $6.99 for a bomber is pushing it, especially from Redhook, but you get a solid brew.

Photo of duceswild
3.5/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of stakem
3.58/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Brown bomber with a bottle date of 3/8/10. Poured into a pint glass it appears a clear amber color with 2 fingers of yellowish tan stained head that fizzes away quite fast leaving spotty patches of lace on the glass.

The aroma of this brew has a very sweet mixture of malty goodness. The nose is somewhat fruity with a scent similar to orange with a strong backing of vanilla and some alcohol burn is noticeable as well.

The taste of this brew includes bitter hops upfront with a slight citrus twang similar to orange rind. There is also a warming presence of alcohol that is somewhat astringent in flavor. The malt seems to have some chocolate character about it as well as an oaky/woodsy flavor throughout. There is a lasting taste of alcohol, bitter hops and chocolate malt left in the mouth which is a bit perplexing considering it's amber color. A resinous amount of piney hops cling the inside of the mouth as well.

This is a medium to full bodied brew with a moderate level of carbonation. Overall it isn't bad. The boldness of the alcohol is a bit out of place and makes the drinkability suffer. This probably would have been better with a little age on it.

After consuming this brew I took a closer look at the label. "Imperial Brown Ale" Oak Aged, brewed with honey, cherry-wood smoked malts and brown sugar. I wouldn't mind getting another bottle of this in 6 months to a year and seeing if the subtle character of the smoked malt comes out more as it ages since right now it is quite hidden behind the hops and alcohol.

Photo of Billolick
3.63/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bomber, spring 2010 offering, March 08 10 on the label, bottling date? Pours murky dark plum amber, frothy dark tan head, that stays, leaves a thick collar, and short lived sheeting that remains as thicker lace. The nose is loaded up with honey, vanilla, light wood, and these flavor sensations follow through to the palate, with a slightly more pronounced woody note. Enjoyable, perhaps a bit thin to be compared to the heavy weights of the style. But enjoyable none the less. A stronger offering in the Red Hook line.

Photo of barleywinefiend
3.95/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured a deep brownish color with good carbonation and a small tannish head. Nose is oak, vanilla, honey and sweet. Taste os sordove warm, syrupy, vanilla, oak. I did not find anything IMPERIAL BROWN about this as advertised. Big honey, oak, light vanilla and booze.
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One year later this 841 is holding up and tasting nicely. Plenty of oak, vanilla, wood, sharp booze, honey is sordove sticky and coating on the mouth. Some nuts and toffee from the Imp Brown. Overall. Doing well!

Photo of Zorro
4/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A dark amber colored beer that could honestly be called brown. This is the color of an old penny with a thick but short tan colored head.

Smell is sweet with a strong vanilla and patent malt aroma. Oak and what smells like date sugar that is probably the honey. There is a little citrus here and lots of wood, mostly is smells on vanilla and coffee.

Starts out sweet with a strong wood and vanilla flavor. Strong oak flavor and a scorched sugar and caramel flavor, tastes a bit like Crème brûlée. Very slightly sweet and over all a well-balanced ale the hop bitterness is just right.

Mouthfeel is thick and creamy.

Drinkability is where this beer really shines, an excellent sipping beer, tasty but not intrusive. It is quite warm now and you still can't tell this is any stronger than an English pale ale. One damn fine beer.

Photo of ppoitras
4.18/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22oz bottle purchased at Yankee Spirits, Sturbridge, MA.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 1" beige head over the clear copper brew. Pillowy head recedes gradually, with sticky lacing. Aroma is sweet with strong oak and alcohol notes. Taste also starts sweet, then fruity quick in the middle, the rounds out with bitterness, oak and alcohol through the close. Mouthfeel is smooth and small-bubbled, and drinkability is great. Very happy with this strong ale from Redhook.

Photo of Kelp
3/5  rDev -17.4%

Photo of billab914
3.78/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22oz bottle into my Dogfish snifter. Poured brown in color with some cherry highlights as the light hits it. The head was thin and mostly concentrated around the edges of the glass, where it left some moderate lacing.

The aroma has some caramel and toffee notes along with a bit of a smoky and oak wood flavor. It also has a hint of some cherry fruit to it. Alcohol comes through a bit as well.

The taste has some some caramel and toffee mixing with some bitter chocolate flavors. The oak comes through a bit with some woody characteristics. The finish has a dry, smoky, bitterness to it with just a hint of some cherry fruitiness. The alcohol is fairly evident in the finish as well.

The mouthfeel is on the thicker side and moderately creamy, while carbonation was on the lower side. Overall it was a decent beer, it had some nice flavors and was enjoyable to sip on this evening. The alcohol was a bit heavy which hurt it a little, but other then that it was pretty decent.

Photo of beertunes
3.2/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

This called an Imperial Brown Ale on the bottle, so that's the standard I'm using in my review. Poured into 16oz balloon. The beer poured a very pretty reddish-brown color with just under an inch of tan head that dissipated quickly and left a decent amount of pretty lacing.

The aroma was malty and a touch on the sweet side, with a bit of hoppy spiceyness at the back. Otherwise the scents were fairly neutral and benign. The taste was very similar, just more fully developed. There was a bit of an alcohol hotness that will probably mellow with a few months.

The body was too thin for a beer this big. Drinkability was decent, but at 9.5% ABV 1 22 at a time is more than plenty. Overall, a decent beer. Worth a shot now, and I'm going to stick a couple away for bit and see how it goes.

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.08/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Review from 5/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a dark red brown, thin off-white head. Aroma of caramel malt and light fruit. Spice and fruits apparent on opening. Smells nice. Initial flavors of hops, fruit and light malt, middle spicy with fruits. Finish sharp, acrid, like quinine. The aftertaste is not good. An interesting beer with a major flaw in the finish.

Photo of glid02
3.6/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle purchased from Green's on Ponce in Atlanta - I figured I'd give them another chance after I was pleasantly surprised by Treblehook.

Pours a clear amber-brown color with a half-finger off-white head. The head dissipates quickly into a wispy layer on top leaving thin lacing.

Smells of mild amounts of honey with milder still amounts of muted toasted malts. Also present and fuller as the beer warms are vanilla and indistinct fruit aromas.

Tastes a bit better than how it smells. Caramel and lightly toasted malt flavors kick things off with a bit more body than they exhibited in the aroma. Following are very light hints of smokiness and heavier hints of honey and vanilla. Near the end of the sip mild amounts of medium fruit flavors enter into things before a mildly bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a smooth thickness with grainy carbonation.

Drinkability is alright. I finished my glass however I'm not very sure about another.

Overall I was let down by this beer, especially after Treblehook. Not worth seeking out but I wouldn't turn one down if offered.

Photo of claspada
3.63/5  rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Aromas of dark burnt caramel, brown sugar, sweet caramels, some earthiness and some oakiness as well. Smells like an English Barleywine to me to be honest. Second smelll adds some dark fruit (raisins and dates).
The taste begins with sweet honey and dark cherries and then some sweet toasty caramel maltiness. Subtle English hoppiness with some slight oakiness and lingering alcohol. Slightly woody and vanilla flavors emerge as it warms. Finishes fairly dry and bitter.
Medium body, with active carbonation. Chewy. Overall, an interesting brew with quite a bit of complexity. I'm glad I let this age for 9 months to let it simmer because I heard it was a hot mess when it first came out. Not sure it was quite worth the $10 investment but it was pretty good anyway.

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Redhook 8-4-1 Expedition from Redhook Ale Brewery
82 out of 100 based on 104 ratings.