Redhook 8-4-1 Expedition - Redhook Ale Brewery
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3.43/5 rDev -5.5%
Spring 2010 bottle
Pours a thin, quick receding head, Beer is a murky brown. Lacing is nil. Nice alcohol legs though.
"Smells like Double Dead Guy" Big malty smell.
Brown sugar with a touch of smokiness. No hops detected. Tastes like DDG as well, hah...albeit a little subdued, which isnt a bad thing. Noticeable alcohol but not too bad.
Thick mouthfeel, a little syrupy.
Not bad at all. Split this bomber, may get a bit much for one person. Best Redhook I've had thusfar. Thanks TATURBO.
07-01-2011 01:03:03 | More by Duff27
3.95/5 rDev +8.8%
Poured a deep brownish color with good carbonation and a small tannish head. Nose is oak, vanilla, honey and sweet. Taste os sordove warm, syrupy, vanilla, oak. I did not find anything IMPERIAL BROWN about this as advertised. Big honey, oak, light vanilla and booze.
One year later this 841 is holding up and tasting nicely. Plenty of oak, vanilla, wood, sharp booze, honey is sordove sticky and coating on the mouth. Some nuts and toffee from the Imp Brown. Overall. Doing well!
06-16-2011 03:54:38 | More by barleywinefiend
4/5 rDev +10.2%
A big thanks to mikesgroove for the extra!!
This was disgracefully consumed from the bottle so the appearance aspect is a bit flawed. But from what I could tell, this brew was a nut brown color. The nose was of brown sugar and molasses. The taste was a bit oxydated but not much. There were some sweet bready malts along with molasses and brown sugar. A year on this brew has really hidden the 9.5% ABV. The mouthfeel is creamy and smooth. Overall, this is a great ale that takes age pretty nicely and has a nice flavor profile.
06-07-2011 21:04:10 | More by ChugginOil
3.5/5 rDev -3.6%
Picked this up in Kansas, bottled in March 2019
Pours crimson with 2 fingers of tan head. Great head retention & average lacing
S: Plums & cakey notes, plus some leafy hops once warm
T: Follows the nose, subtle boozeyness, a hint of cherry, vanilla & herbal hops up front. Some oaky/boozey notes as this warms, also a bit of pine & caramel, plus more figs & a touch of raisins
MF: Kind of thin bodied for the style, firm carbonation. This thickens up a bit, once warm, good balance
Not a bad take on the style, but not a good as I hoped. Still; I'm happy to see Red Hook spread it's wings, love the extra effort on gussying up the bottle art as well...
03-30-2011 05:59:43 | More by russpowell
4.35/5 rDev +19.8%
Had this from a 22oz bottle that was sitting down for almost a year Original release was spring 2010.
A - impressively fluffy tan head over a deep brown and cloudy brew. The head stays around for a couple minutes and resolves without much lacing. Looks lush and delicious.
S - there's a hint of wet hops on the nose but it's dominated by a powerful caramel hops.
T - after an initial light hoppy bitterness it resolves into a sweet caramel malt that just goes on and on. This really tastes like a brown ale on steroids with absolutely dominating sweet malts.
M - light in the mouth with very mild carbonation.
D - extremely tasty and smooth; practically no booziness at all. A real killer!
It looks like I may have made the right call laying this down for a while; it was a stunning drinking experience with incredible smoothness matched against a killer malt profile.
03-26-2011 15:46:58 | More by DoktorZee
4.03/5 rDev +11%
650ml bottle from a local Family convienience store just south of my apartment ,Liberty Rd, Salem. $7.49 I see that this bottle is at least a year old..seeing as the 'blurb" says the shelf life is 365 days i am not hopeful! here goes anway Colour? Slightly ruby red accented brown small tan head. Fine aroma here. caramel, toffee, light hint of chocolate( dark),hazelnuts and a touch of floral hop. very complex. Taste is like the above but having some really nice smooth dark heather honey tones, a slight woddsy smoke and the hops turn up at the end and curiously blend well with the honey. I like. Very good palate to the beer. Very surprised..this has held up well under the harsh lighting. A nice beer.
01-30-2011 03:54:41 | More by Reidrover
3.43/5 rDev -5.5%
22 oz. bottle tried 6 Sep 2010. Poured in the 0.4 L Kur Pils snifter.
Medium sized lacy brown head. Well carbonated. Cloudy warm dark reddish brown. Soap, alcohol, brown sugars and some perfume in the aroma. Starts nutty with some astringency. Toasted hazelnuts, almonds and some brown sugary sweetness. Finishes a bit sweet and sour. Toasty aftertaste. Medium body. Warming ethanol.
Imperial brown ale seems kind of counterintuitive.
01-29-2011 06:16:01 | More by htomsirveaux
3.45/5 rDev -5%
A - low clumpy yeasty beige head. Strong thick lacing. Body is a cloudy bubbly stained cedar.
S - initially hoppy bitter smells meld into sweet caramel and summer fruit smells. Strawberries and sweet tarts
T - a bit sweet strawberry caramel initial flavor. And a strong bitter ipa aftertaste. Profile is overall not that complex. And whiskey doesn't show much.
M - a bit watery and loose sadly. As evidenced by the very low head.
D - good but not a great beer. In America I wouldn't say this is worth $15.
01-08-2011 12:21:32 | More by jeranbrews
3.78/5 rDev +4.1%
Appearance-Pours a ruby brown with a moderate tan head with reasonable retention and some light lacing.
Smell-Creamy, toast, biscuit, honey
Taste-Creamy and honey sweet up front, deep caramel malts. Vinous with some date flavors. Noble hop bitterness at the finish. Aftertaste echoes the creamy honey up front. The smoked malts are subtle, which is to say I don't get much of it.
Mouthfeel-Somewhat thick bodied with light and smooth carbonation. Sticks on the palate.
Drinkability-A big and chunky beer.
01-08-2011 07:21:21 | More by olmatty
3.38/5 rDev -6.9%
Fisrt craft of the new year...
Poured form a bomber into a Ballast point pint glass. Bottle is dated Mar 08 10...
A - Poures a deep mahogany with a one finger tan head. Not much in the way of head retention or lacing to be had here...
S - Honey, caramel, and lots of malty notes...
T - Not as smokey as I was anticapating. A little bit of smokinees does come through though to let you that it is there. Lots of malts in this one. Also pick up honey, caramel, and brown sugar. Ends on a hoppy bitter note with a touch of alcohol warmth. While this one is pretty good, I think it could have been a little more balanced. Goes from sweet to a hoppy bitterness fairly quick...
M - Definitely medium bodied with a decent amount of carbonation. A little watery for my liking...
D - Interesting take on a brown. Glad I got a chance to try this one, but it is probably something that I won't be revisiting in the future...
01-01-2011 20:06:50 | More by comfortablynumb1
District of Columbia
2.98/5 rDev -17.9%
Pours dark brown with thin, off-white to tan head. Mostly clear with plenty of carbonation. Not much head retention or lacing. Smells like almost nothing. A hint of grainy malt and a slight whiff of oak, otherwise barren. Tons of oak flavor without being overpowering. Tannic but again not overly so; there's no mouth-puckering effect from the oak. Caramel and bready malts back up the oak. This beer isn't bad but it is kind of a one track oak affair; not much else going on in it.
12-30-2010 14:56:12 | More by goldbot
3.63/5 rDev 0%
Aromas of dark burnt caramel, brown sugar, sweet caramels, some earthiness and some oakiness as well. Smells like an English Barleywine to me to be honest. Second smelll adds some dark fruit (raisins and dates).
The taste begins with sweet honey and dark cherries and then some sweet toasty caramel maltiness. Subtle English hoppiness with some slight oakiness and lingering alcohol. Slightly woody and vanilla flavors emerge as it warms. Finishes fairly dry and bitter.
Medium body, with active carbonation. Chewy. Overall, an interesting brew with quite a bit of complexity. I'm glad I let this age for 9 months to let it simmer because I heard it was a hot mess when it first came out. Not sure it was quite worth the $10 investment but it was pretty good anyway.
12-30-2010 04:26:51 | More by claspada
4.03/5 rDev +11%
Poured into a red wine glass.
A: Hazy copper with very little visible carbonation. A small alabaster head quickly falls to a patchwork film. Leaves the lightest of lace.
S: Toffee, raisins, cherries and a bit of lemon do most of the work. A light suggestion of smoke and oak is in the back. A light alcohol buzz finishes things up.
T: Bittersweet toffee dominates. Bitterness is moderate and has a woodsy and peppery bite to it. Dark fruits hit late with currants and raisins. A little alcohol heat makes the beer go down warm. Finishes with lingering toffee and oak flavors.
M: The medium body is somewhat syrupy. The carbonation could stand a little less vigor.
D: Overall, I really enjoyed this one. The nose is the best part. The flavor is nice too, especially as the beer warms. All in all, I solid offering from Redhook.
12-12-2010 02:35:42 | More by Rayek
3.1/5 rDev -14.6%
Dark bittersweet orange with a infusion of brick red... which isn't too crazy a color for an Imperial brown ale. A three finger head of tight-bubbled, ecru hued foam does a fine job plugging the top of the pint glass. When it finally begins to fade, it leaves a respectable amount of lace in shredded sheets.
The nose is akin to a toasted-earthy barleywine whose alcohol could be more completely buried. For a beer with this many ingredients (6 malts, 5 hops, honey, brown sugar, oak aging), precious few of them are appreciated on the sniff.
8-4-1 Expedition is closer to a miss than a hit. Imperial brown ale doesn't seem to fit, so it's probably best to stick with American strong ale. As in the nose, nothing really stands out on the palate... expect alcohol that is borderline hot. Improvement (softening) with warming is this brew's only real hope to snag an above-average taste score.
The malts are steely caramel-like with the slightest bit of wood smoke imaginable. None of the hops (Alchemy, Cascade, Willamette, Crystal and Sterling) make a bold move. Honey? No. Brown sugar? Uh-uh. Oak? Maybe a little. Sorry, but this unfocused mish-mash never does come together into anything resembling good beer.
The body/mouthfeel is actually respectable if your standards aren't too high. Slightly too boisterous bubbles (that aren't fading quickly enough) keep the score from climbing up to the next highest number.
Craft beer kudos to the brewers at Redhook for aiming high with this Limited Release, but they need to follow through and actually hit a target that's worth hitting. This stuff comes across as 'big beer for big beer's sake' and isn't an Expedition that I care to take again. Not even if it's a short walk across a lightly traveled street.
12-10-2010 22:24:47 | More by BuckeyeNation
3.15/5 rDev -13.2%
A - Poured an amber color with a tan head that leaves lacing behind
S - Is of sweet malt and some alcohol
T - Follows the nose with sweet malt upfront and a lot of alcohol
M - This beer has a thin watery body with medium carbonation to it
D - This isn't good enough to be a limited release theres no body to it and its way too boozy not a beer I'll be buying a second bottle of
11-28-2010 00:56:38 | More by armock
3.88/5 rDev +6.9%
Pours a hazy reddish brown, thin white head retains as a lacing.
Smells of sweet brown sugar malts and buttered bread.
Tastes of strong floral hops with a bit of the buttery bread malts at the end. A bit of a scotch like alcohol flavor too.
Feels thicker with carbonation on the tip of the tongue and back of the throat. Warms a bit.
Good, interesting ale, surprisingly hoppy, on the strong side so not a session candidate. Enjoyable and worth trying though. Will appeal to hop heads more than others.
11-27-2010 02:18:07 | More by Cylinsier
3.25/5 rDev -10.5%
Appearance - I really like the dark brown, hazy color. Nothing is floating around in my beer, but the color is pretty beautiful.
Aroma - I smell malts and oak. There's a hint of something sweet, but pretty much it's malt.
Taste - Not sweet at all. Super hoppy & malty to the point where it's almost not pleasant. But it's a great brown ale example.
Mouthfeel - The flavor almost burns into my mouth. Lots of malty and oak flavors, but not much of anything else.
Drinkability - I could drink a lot of this quickly because of how malty the beer is, but I'd probably get sick of it quickly too.
11-18-2010 00:09:54 | More by lpolinsky
3.73/5 rDev +2.8%
Pours a reddish clear color. Small white head fades fast, a little lacing. Aroma is fairly mild malt and wood.
Taste is good. Malty, sweet, with a definite woody taste. Mouthfeel is fairly smooth except for a little alcohol bite.
Drinkability is ok. A bit sweet and strong, the alcohol is right on the edge between warming and too much.
11-14-2010 04:55:43 | More by JayQue
2.75/5 rDev -24.2%
Bought at Whole Foods in Honolulu, HI for $8.99.
Appearance: Thin lace of head, which is maintained during the whole of the beer. Burnt-caramel in color.
Smell: Sweetness pours out of the nose with hints of buttered toffee, and a coca-cola scent.
Taste & Mouthfeel: This is a case of the nose steering me wrong. Strong alcohol-wood flavor hits you upfront and stays with you. Bitter bite with an acidic aftertaste. The smoked wood taste is very prevalent. Not a big fan. Too much alcohol flavor for my liking.
Drinkability: This might be for some people, but I just couldn't enjoy this beer. Red Hook normally has a decent selection of beers, but this one is not on my top list. All I can say is that at least it was a limited release.
11-07-2010 04:58:38 | More by July2Nov
3.8/5 rDev +4.7%
It poured a murky brownish-red, reminiscent of an old penny, and sported deep ruby red highlights in the sun. If it was murky initially, it seemed to clear as it warmed, which makes me wonder if it was a little too cold. A heavy - but fluffy - off-white/beige head built to just over a finger thick and dissipated gradually, leaving sticky spots of lace along the glass and a thin collar surrounding light patches in the middle.
The nose was a little difficult to pick up on, and as it warmed all of the complex aromas seemed to melt together, but I'm pretty happy with what I pulled out of it with the time (and amateur nose) I had. There were lots of sweetly toasted malts, some honey, a light woody oak scent, burnt caramel, and hints of vanilla as it warmed. There were very few hops that I could pick up on, though there was an odd citrus tint that didn't seem to belong with the rest of the earthy compilations. After some research, I deduced that the citrus was thanks to the Cascade hops, which are used as an aroma-type cultivar and produce obvious floral and citrus tones.
My first swig of this heavily wooded brew was pleasurably smooth, made up of a medium mouthfeel with small but adequate carbonation that created a surprising kick of spiciness that mellowed out quickly. Another reason for the spiciness was thanks to the Willamette hops, which are a triploid aroma-type cultivar that are actually Fuggle hop seedlings, and they are known for their spicy/woody characteristics. Many of the flavors that were present were very obvious thanks to the resemblance to the nose, with a sweet malt, quaint honey and vanilla flavors, and a strong wood/oak base; all I needed was to be sitting on a mossy rock in a thick forest watching little insects floating lazily through the sunbeams.
All of the different tastes were quietly and subtly wrapped in a smokey cloak as it rolled off my tongue, leaving just enough room for a mild bitterness to leak into my taste buds. The flavor was definitely a stronger version of the nose and carried lots of oak and wood notes, making it the most nature-istic brew I've tasted yet. I would love to take this with on a camping trip up in the mountains, surrounded by the tranquility of the trees and just being out in the wilderness. Being able to drink in the awe-inspiring freedom of nature while enjoying a delightfully crafted brew that pulls all of it perfectly into a liquid is a good way to cover each of the five senses. This is one for those who take time to appreciate their life and all the wonder present in the little things, even if that little thing happens to be the Grand Canyon.
11-06-2010 04:41:49 | More by Lucklys
3.83/5 rDev +5.5%
Beer pours to a nice hazy mahogany. Nice thick head.
Light aroma. What I do love is that careful stufy yields a very noticeable honey aroma. Love that.
Sweet and dark upfront. Malt and honey form a syrupy texture. Some dark fruit. Lovely. Disappointed with the lack of smokiness promised in the cherrywood smoked malt.
This beer is too hot. Tastes hotter than its already high ABV. Age this for 12 to 24 months and you will be rewarded well.
10-22-2010 23:45:17 | More by telecomz
3.8/5 rDev +4.7%
Sierra Nevada and Anchor Brewing aren't the only old time craft breweries around. Just up the coast in Seattle Washington is the Red Hook Brewery, which has been there since 1982. Red Hook claims that their beers are "liquid goodness" - I've only had this, the 8-4-1 Expedition, but I'm hardly one to argue with them. Red Hook has 9 regularly produced beers, as well as a Limited Edition Beer which rotates seasonally and is constantly changing. This, the 8-4-1 Expedition was released in March of 2010 as an Oak Aged Imperial Brown Ale; it was brewed with honey, brown sugar, and cherry-wood smoked malts. I like where this is going.
I was expecting a classic American punch at the back of this beer with a big wave of hop bitterness and fresh aromas, but it is explained that the beer is just 45 to 60 IBUs, which for a brown ale that is 9.5% it is actually quite balanced (rather than the hop-sided world much of the west coast lives in). Beyond that though, I had no clue what to expect. The Brown Ale category is somewhat of a catchall term for any beer that is malty, not pale, and not black. But that brown flavor can have a very wide range of characteristics.
The 8-4-1 Expedition (by the way, I'm still not sure what "8-4-1″ stands for...) came in a 650ml bottle with a handsome brushed rather than polished finish. It is 9.5% abv, and was beckoning to be opened. I would not contest that.
I opened the Expedition at cellar temperature around 12C (54F) and poured it into several tulip glasses (to share with several friends). The pour was crisp and exposed. What I mean by that is you could clearly depict the color and body of the beer just by observing the way that it crashed against the glass. I was left with a glowing brown beer, totally transparent with golden red browns and burnt caramel colors emanating towards the edges of the glass. A tightly packed and slightly creamy 1 inch head was built up on the beer, which I expect would have been rather impressive if I poured an entire glass. It was a nutty shade of khaki with a shimmer of very light brown lacing the side of the glass.
The nose is richly malty with fresh fruit flavors and caramelized dark fruits. Toffee and hints of vanilla waft through with a touch of roast, almost coffee like bitterness on the back end. Sugary sweet malts show dates, figs and prunes in a clean, and not so sticky aroma, finishing off to very light citrus - hop appearance is minimal, and overall leaves a largely malty beer.
The first sip mimics the nose quite well but adds a touch of sweet oak and bourbon. Vanilla flavors melt into the middle of a rounded malt center which again is filled with rich fruits - plums and apricots come easily to me, but figs, dates and raisins also show themselves relatively easily too. These malty sweet flavors do push through as a caramel and brown sugar flavor - they aren't so robust, but rather very lush. Although the beer is transparent, it is fairly oily and silky with a smooth and close to creamy mouth feel. This adds to the desert-like candy flavor.
Hops are gentle, and just enough to bring some balance to the beer. It is without a question a malt forward beer, but a touch of herbal bitterness brings it down to a drinkable level. The beer also shows a reasonable toasted and mild roast character which really balances things out. The hint of oak is back at the finish and really helps serve up a nice drink.
It is 9.5%, and is more of a sipping beer to relax with. I would not sit down and chug one of these, but I would pair it with a cigar or with cheesecake. Definitely cheesecake.
Pics at: http://definitionale.com/2010/10/21/tasting-the-red-hook-8-4-1-expedition/#more-5124
10-21-2010 15:06:37 | More by StephenRich
3.8/5 rDev +4.7%
Clear amber with orange highlights. Big frothy creamy light tan head. Some sticky patches of lace.
Honey and raw sugar. Cherries. Lemon zest. Earthy, woody, smokey. Vanilla and a touch of booze. Toasty caramel malt.
Honey coated cherries. Sweet toasty caramel. Smokey, woody, and earthy. Slightly medicinal booze, and vanilla. Lemony citrus bitterness. dry smokey finish.
Rich and thick, drying. MedFull body. Steady medium carbonation.
Tasty and interesting brew. Sweet and toasty with some wood, smoke, and booze. Doesnt quite seem like 9%. Glad to have tried.
10-13-2010 23:04:05 | More by CHILLINDYLAN
3.3/5 rDev -9.1%
I brought this one back from Oregon. Poured into a chalice, a small white head on a clear ruby and brown brew.
Smell is of fruit, lots of fruit and fruity sweetness. There is a mild smell of malts. The smell is appealing.
The taste brings a blast of fruit and bitterness. The bitterness dominates the palate and the aftertaste. The brew is a tad hot with the alcohol not very well hidden.
Good, medium mouthfeel.
This is a really interesting beer. This beer is like a really hopped up Doppelbock. This beer smells and looks like a Doppelbock but is a lot more bitter then a Doppelbock. The perceived alcohol is similar to Samichlaus but Samichlaus is 14% ABV, a lot more then 9.5% which this brew is. I am intrigued but not impressed.
10-06-2010 02:04:40 | More by alpineclimber
3.48/5 rDev -4.1%
Pours a very clear medium brown color, with a one-finger cream colored head that maintains well.
Malty, with hints of caramel, vanilla, cocoa and smoked malt. Some alcohol in the background as well.
Flavor has a charred oak character, and is malty with some caramel. Finishes with a reasonably sharp lingering bitterness, with a fair amount of alcohol.
Medium body, with active carbonation. Chewy. Overall, an interesting brew with quite a bit of complexity. The alcohol in the finish is a little too strong, and kind of takes over the taste. Also, would be better with a little less carbonation. It's a little biting as is.
08-18-2010 03:17:05 | More by briman
Redhook 8-4-1 Expedition from Redhook Ale Brewery
82 out of 100 based on 102 ratings.