Veritas 013 - The Lost Abbey

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378 Ratings
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Ratings: 378
Reviews: 24
rAvg: 4.49
pDev: 7.35%
Wants: 247
Gots: 61 | FT: 9
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California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: ThatsThatDude on 03-31-2014

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

The fresh peaches and nectarines were from Masumoto Farms in Central Valley. It spent two years in French Oak Barrels...
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Photo of MarcWP
4.85/5  rDev +8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Bottle #817 served into (what else?), Lost Abbey Teku.

Gorgeous pour reveals a toasted orange beer with copper highlights. Plenty of carbonation bubbles stream up and create a creamish colored head. Hazy, appropriately so with the addition of peaches and nectarines.

Aroma is pleasantly peachy with soft nectarine, banana custard, and brown sugar notes. Not a juicy, fresh,sweet peach but a processed unsweetened and canned like preachiness. Oak, bread, pineapple, and white grape bleed through as it warms. This is what I like from a sour,, brilliantly layered, subtle, yet complex aromas. You know, Cantillonesque type shiz!

On the palate you get the acid, but it's not overly acidic or acetic for that matter. Awesome pucker with mouthwatering flavors. Lemon meringue for days, dry pineapple, cinnamon peach cobbler mid to late palate, acidic white grapes, oak, white nectarine peel, lime, yellow grapefruit, and toasted grain. Emphatically sour yet never abrasively so, this American Wild showcases delicacy of flavors in a turbid and relentless environment.

Mouthfeel is at point. Heavier side of light body with medium level carbonation that offers great support to the overall feel and cleansing mechanism. Can't ask for more.

At this late of the sour game you can only ask for so much. And The Lost Abbey delivers. Much in style with their other sours, this a true American interpretation and one of the best if I'm not being brash. Much like Duck Duck Gooze is possibly the best American interpretation of a Gueuze I've tasted, V013 is one of the best fruited sours I've had from the homeland. This goes above and beyond any Almanac, Bruery, or Cascade fruit sour I've had. Only Russian River has comparable stock and I know I've yet to try others but from the looks of it there isn't many that can play the sour game at this level. Maybe one day I'll get my hands on some VSB and some of the other Jester King fruit variants and confirm my assessment. Till then, I bow down to the Lost Abbey and Russian River.

Photo of obiwan_k3n00bi
3.25/5  rDev -27.6%

Meh.

Photo of HookemHoos
4.02/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Gusher. The bottle basically exploded.

Photo of SpeedwayJim
3.81/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

750ml corked and caged bottle into Mikkeller stemware. Reviewed at a tasting 5/3/14.

Pours super carbed (surprise!) with a huge white head and spotty and sparse lace. Beer is a slightly cloudy orange. Average.

Nose is tart peach, mango, citrus and a light Brett presence. Surprisingly mellow but balanced. Nice.

Opens tart peach, oak and Brett funk. Big fruit notes in the middle with more wood, cobwebs and funk. Ends subtly as the fruit presence just fades out. Spritzy tartness in the aftertaste. Solid.

Light bodied with ample carbonation. Tart, crisp and dry in the mouth and goes down dry and filmy. Bone dry finish with a lingering, puckering aftertaste. Really good.

As a peach sour made by Lost Abbey, this is no Yellow Bus... but its still a very good beer. Pretty straightforward flavor profile with clean execution. Certainly worth trying.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.92/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Hazy deep orange body. Nice white head and a medium collar.

Smell - Very intense acidity, but it still has a nice aroma of peaches and nectarines. Light grain.

Taste - Really sour. Masks some flavors. Wood is strong, as are the stone fruit flavors. The sourness is most intense up front and then mellows. Grainy finish.

Mouthfeel - Medium carbonation. The sourness doesn't seem as intense as it warms, but it still overwhelms the flavors.

Overall - Nice fruit. It's not very complex, but it's tasty.

Photo of jegross2
4.2/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Reviewing the Veritas 013, a wild ale brewed with peaches and nectarines from The Lost Abbey out of San Marcos, California.

Score: 93

April 2014 vintage bottle served in a Surly Darkness snifter/tulip "chalice" and enjoyed on 03/20/15.

Appearance: *GUSHER ALERT* When the cork was 75% pulled out, it forced itself off the bottle and violently gushed a couple of inches into the air. We lost between 10% and 20% of the bottle near instantaneously, with the bottle making a hot mess all over the table. The color of the beer is a reddish-orange color with a dark core and fade to a yellowish hue atop the brew. Very murky/cloudy appearance. Pours a few fingers of head initially, which settles to a thin layer of off-white head. Good lacing and retention. 3/5

Smell: Soft peach aroma, sweet and sticky sugar notes (honey?), and wood. Very subtle, not as strong or complex as expected, but appealing. 4.25/5

Taste: Sweet peach juice flavor with a good, mild sour bite. Has a robust sweet undertone like a resinous, syrupy fruit flavor. Woody finish with notes of brown sugar on the back half. A little citrus fruit-like flavor on the finish too. Very mild acidity. Very subdued sour profile for a Lost Abbey wild ale; this is nice and refreshing. 4.25/5

Mouthfeel: Medium body, good carbonation (which is shocking given how it gushed). Mildly dry finish. Mild acidity, nice sweet and sour profile. 4.5/5

Overall: What the beer lacks in complexity it greatly supplements in refreshing drinkability and a well-crafted peach flavor. Hella overpriced, though.

Cost: $45 for a 750 ml bottle.

Photo of cbutova
4.36/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Eternally grateful to my cousin Sonny for sharing this bottle.

A- 750ml bottle split into two wine glasses with a fairly murky dark orange-amber body. A small white cap rises to half a finger but dies down to a small ring fairly quickly. Lacing is rare and spotty.

S- Pungent nectarines and peaches but severely dried out and influenced by the wave of sourness and funk from the L.A. bugs. Complex bouquet of horse funk, lactic acid, oak, acetic, lemon, white grape, musty and cherry Brett notes.

T- Sourness really builds up with time through the glass. First sips bring a ton of stone fruit and a large dose of peach. As time goes by the musty, funky lactic acid, lemons, oak and horse blanket takes over. Nectarines and peach still show up but not as much. Something reminds me of raspberry.

MF- For the style the body is close to medium but it is beyond dried out especially for a beer with fruit added. Texture is foamy. Carbonation lands at a medium-high level while sourness goes from medium to very high killing the palate.

Starts off with a nice blend of stone fruit and tartness but builds to a very high level of sourness with time. The funk and a "lambic feel" come along with that making for a great experience.

Photo of jlindros
4.49/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to rudzud for sharing.

Pours nice creamy fluffy head, nice lacing, mostly clear candy red orange color.

Nose tons of sour, tart funk, juicy stone fruit, fresh and sour peaches, little nectarine, tangy acidity, nice acetic acid, lactic too? little creamy malt too. Faint berry horse blanket in the background, little vanilla barrel oak.

Taste very very sour, nice sour funk, lacto funk, sour peach and fresh peach, little nectarine and generic stone fruit, juicy flemmy fruit with sticky, little malty flavor, etc. Tons of buttery and vanilla oak, nice acidity, acetic acid. Flemmy finish, hint creamy lacto, tangy, more peach and stone fruit, fleshy stone fruit, nice sourness lingering, little acid and tang.

Mouth is med bod, stickier than I expected, nice carb.

Overall very nice.

Photo of PerHops
4.49/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml to snifter

The second the cork comes out this beer is ready to escape. I only lost a few ounces, thanks to Tim's heads up! Once the carbonation calms down this is a very pretty beer. A little darker than I expected for a peach sour, but a beautiful amber orange.

The aroma is where I am convinced. The stone fruit is there, but so is a near perfect level of funk. Oaky, dusty, beautiful.

This tastes much better than I was expecting. It is definitely on the sour side of things a la ddg, but the peaches are there, and a lot of funk. Quite sour, but complex, the flavors are pretty amazing.

M- Medium to high carbonation, very puckering, but finishes dry.

O- This was much better than I was expecting. World class beer. West Ashley is still probably my favorite example of style, but this is exceptional.

Photo of dar482
4.25/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Gush alert! Open this over a sink.

The aroma is very very tart of lemons and some oak on the back. A touch of mustiness.

The flavor follows with tart lemon peel. The beer is medium plus tart. Mustiness and oak are hinted at as the beer hits of some stone fruit juiciness on the back, but faint.

A slightly one dimensional brew.

Photo of cpetrone84
3.1/5  rDev -31%

Pour is a copper color with red edges, mostly transparent, tight light tan head. Nose is big time oak, lightly bitter wood, notes of unripe peach. Taste is a bit sweet, oak is again very strong, sugary peach, lingering bitterness and a bit of heat and acidity. Body is creamy, medium, fizzy, acetic in finish.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.17/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Thanks to Skuter for sharing this one at the Revenge Of Instant Replay bottleshare held at Instant Replay in Canoga Park, CA.

Bottle # 337.

Pours a murky orange with a foamy beige head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. No lacing on the drink down. Smell is sour with malt, grain, fruit, and acidic aromas. Taste is much the same with sour malt, grain, and fruit flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good beer with a nice balance between the sour and fruit aspects all around.

Photo of drmcleod10
4.6/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750 mL Poured into a Side Project glass and split amongst two friends.
No Gusher here

A - This pours slightly darker than normal for its style. Murky orangish with hints of brown and a solid 3 finger white foam head

S - Smell starts as more tart with the fruits coming in ever so slightly on the back end but once it rests in the glass for a bit, the peachy nectarine smells come through on the nose. Definitely a simplex nose with hints of white grapes coming through ever so slightly

T - Taste follows the nose here with a bit of tartness up front(not overly acidic) but not so much that it over powers the fruit flavors that follow. You can definitely get some of the oak as this beer warms followed the light notes of peaches and nectarines. This was a fantastic tasting wild

M - Mouthfeel was spot on for a wild. Light bodied with solid carbonation.

O - A really well made beer here and would definitely consider seeking this bottle out.

Photo of vissai
4.77/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Tasted both on draft during the release and following day out of the bottle. (review is for the bottle because I had a larger pour)

Appearance: Pours a beautiful hazy orange with tan laced head that climbs half an inch after a 5 oz pour. Very enticing.

Smell: Smells very fresh and juicy, lots of stone fruit pop out classic brett aromas are also there. Very juicy, reminds of very high quality apricot or peach fruit roll up. No artificial fruit smells i sometimes get in fruited sours.

Taste: Boom! very juicy. Stone fruits are there but not over powering. If i didn't know there was honey in here I wouldn't be able to taste it, maybe its working some sort of behind the scenes magic I dont know. Definitely sour but the brett and whatever lacto was already in the barrels is fighting for attention. Perfect balance. Taste. Smell. Taste. Smell. Each sip leaves you wanting more.

Moutfeel: Perfect carb, very nice effervescent mouthfeel. Again the juicyness leaves you wanting more and more.

Overall: Out of the last 6 or so fruited Veritas sours this one is the best right of the bat. The other ones (Veritas 010, 012) needed a few months to get really good. Gwen said this saw old Izzy barrels. Which is kind of awesome. Highly recommend this one. Worth the hype.

Photo of Stevedore
4.35/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

750ml C&C bottle. Poured into a Lost Abbey teku glass 11/1/2014.

This one was a gusher. As soon as the cork came off, it erupted. Luckily we were forewarned and did not lose much beer.

A- Medium copper-brown, appears slightly hazy. One finger offwhite head, good retention, nice lacing. [4.25]

S- Lactic tartness, oak, a bit of earthy Brett, moderate amounts of peach mixed in with a mild grainy sweetness. The peach certainly seems to be overwhelmed by the musty oak and lactic acidity here. Still, this is a very strong, intense nose. [4.25]

F- Oak, musty lemon tartness, earth, stone fruits, small amounts of white vinous character, lactic acidity. Essentially tastes like a sweeter Lost Abbey sour. Nice complexity to this brew, tasty and tart, although the peaches and nectarines seem to be overshadowed by the rest of the beer. [4.5]

M- Medium bodied, soft, fluffy and effervescent with presumably high carbonation. Dry, oaky finish with no indication of stone fruits. [4.25]

O- While this was a very tasty, mouth-puckering AWA, the peaches and nectarines were fairly limited in their contribution to the flavour. I feel that they may have aged the base beer in barrels for far too long, as the oak and lactate are dominating the palate quite a bit, lacking even a modicum of restraint. Essentially, this is a straight up mouth-puckering AWA with a touch of stone fruit. I certainly did enjoy this one. [4.25]

Final score: 4.36

Photo of rudzud
4.43/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Shared with JLindros and Kyle. Bottle 474.

A - Poured into a Kate the Great tulip a hazy brown amber hue with a nice one finger head that fades to leave a creamy blanket.

S - Aromas of nice sour malts, little stone fruit, nice nectarine flesh, some sour pit, nice funk, subtle.

T - Taste is nice malt sweetness, good funky notes, nice barrel notes, light stone fruits, candy nectarine, acidic, light vinegar. Stone pit tartness. Quite subtle peach and nectarine, little yeasty. Nice creamy milky lacto thing.

M - Mouthfeel is brightly carbonated, crisp. Not that flemmy.

O - Overall this beer was really tasty, nice sourness. The peach is very subtle with the funk being really pleasant. Tasty, though, not sure if this is worth the money they charge per bottle.

Serving type: bottle

Photo of Huhzubendah
4.5/5  rDev +0.2%

The beer is murky orange with white, foamy head. The aroma offers peach, nectarine, stone fruit, classic Lost Abbey funk. The flavor follows suit, finishing with an aggressive puckering sensation in the jaws and cheeks. Moderate acetic character with lots of fruity notes throughout. Delicious.

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.54/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

oh my goodness! this is just amazing, when i had the 2014 edition, i wasnt really sure what all the hype was about. it was awesome, but it wasnt all that different (or better) than others in that style. this is in a class all of its own, and i am awful lucky drlovemd87 decided to break one out, i have to imagine this is pretty rare and hard to come by. the aroma is just insane, the fruit is so ripe and genuine, sweet, but only in the natural fruit sugar sense, nothing artificial about it, and its so potent that its mouthwatering. the flavor is so peachy, as true peach as anything, and approaching fou foune (although thats apricot) for fruity authenticity and potency in a wild ale. i like that its not too sour to appreciate the fruit, its delicate in that way. funky for sure, and with plenty of acidity, which is awesome, i think thats the real genius of this beer. such fine balance, one of my favorite fruit beers of the year. carbonation is on point, and i would put this one up there with the best of any beer these guys make. its special and delicious, and i hope to one day taste it again. i wont soon forget this masterpiece.

Photo of ThePorterSorter
3.99/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

The beer pours (gushes) a tarnished copper color with generous sediment and a fluffy off-white head. The nose is slightly off-putting at first (out house-esque?), but reveals distinct peach skin and apricot in time. The taste brings forward apricot and funk, a little candi sugar-like sweetness (dominates - especially when colder), and tart, unripened peach/plum in the finish. It has an overly sweet medium body with masked alcohol, muddled fruit characteristics (more defined when warm), minimal carbonation, a semi-sweet finish, and lingering yeast presence. This beer is definitely tasty and a very drinkable sour, but lacks fruit definition and is still a bit sweet for my liking.

Photo of gueuzedreg
4.46/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I lost 3/4 bottle to a gusher; def let this one sit for a long time; not that would have made a huge difference. I got one glass out of this bottle :(

A- Dark honey golden, thin layer of lacing. No legs on lacing, and it is bright white in color (lacing).

S- Deep apricot and peach, really dank there. Some brett lacto funk past the dank fruit

T- Pretty dank apricot and peach upfront, but it lacks a certain depth that a fresh Fou has. The brett lacto is kinda distant, but it is also young at this point.

M- Nice and creamy, some diacetyl butter notes going on here, but minimal at this point. It is really good

re-rating day after being extremely pissed I lost 3/4 bottle from gusher

Photo of MacQ32
4.74/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

A - super muddy golden orange with a finger of watery looking white/clear head. OK retention and strong lacing

S - faurl vinigary but also rather sweet, lemony. Not incredibly intense but bold.

T - vinigar, citrus/orange and lemon up front, sweet towards the finish. A bit puckering/taxing at the back of the jaw. Short finish, mostly tart/vinegar

M - medium bodied or less, kind of watery (not in a bad way) but thicker/sticky feeling on the tongue results. Solid carbonation. Deliciously refreshing

Photo of Wolberjs
4.76/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Greatest mouthfeel and finish. That's what she said.

Photo of popery
3.61/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Thanks ineedbeer. Pours a brownish dusky red color. Darker than expected. Quite cloudy. Little to no head. Absolutely no bubbles after a minute. A bit of chunkiness. Aroma is tart raspberries, underripe stone fruit, vinegar. Fairly acetic. Some vanilla. There's some peach/nectarine sweetness but it's mild. Big acetic note in the taste. Quite sour. Stone fruit, berries and grapes, all very tart. Nothing is terribly well defined. Some malt character knocking around. Quite dry. Tons of pucker. Tiny bit of body. I wish there was more fruit character to this beer. The acetic sourness dominates for me. Still, it's good, just not great.

Photo of putonyourwalkingshoes
4.5/5  rDev +0.2%

Poured from 750ml bottle #1337. A gusher that I lost very little of because i was expecting the worst.

A: Pours a murky deep reddish orange with some copper highlights. Good amount of head with solid retention.

S: Minerally with subtle fruit. Very candied.

T: A balanced sour. Gets nicer as it warms. Good amount of balanced nectarine/tangerine cherry merge with some strawberry citrus. Oak is integrated really well. Not too lactic like i remember it on tap when i had the tap sampling. Not too acidic but doesn't knock me off my feet.

M: Very pleasant after taste. The carbonation is there but doesn't really translate. Interesting. The acid character is so mild.

O: For the price of admission I was expecting this to blow my tits off but its still very well balanced overall and super crushable. Much better than most of the sours in the box set. Right up there with the last guava style cable car. If u want a super balanced sour that won't strip the enamel of your teeth this is for you. Flavors are very well integrated. Better than anything I've had from russian river.

Veritas 013 from The Lost Abbey
99 out of 100 based on 378 ratings.