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Avant Garde - The Lost Abbey

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BA SCORE
85
very good

604 Ratings
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Ratings: 604
Reviews: 332
rAvg: 3.79
pDev: 9.76%
Wants: 32
Gots: 45 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Bière de Garde |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: xlperro on 05-12-2006)
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Photo of Sammy
3.68/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A lacey beer on tap at Port Carlsblad. Darker than the blond colour described., with a white head. A barleywine like taste, well malted sweeter than expected mid-sip, with a dash of peach fruit juice, that finishes lemon and sour. A sure cross-styler that does not taste like most other biere de garde

Sammy, Feb 11, 2007
Photo of t0rin0
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

t0rin0, Dec 11, 2012
Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.43/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at The Los Abbey/Port tasting room in San Marcos, CA.

Pours a clear honey gold with an off-white head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Foamy rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is pretty weak and is of grain/malt and mild spices. Taste is of grain, spices, and some slight citrus flavors on the finish. There is a mild bitterness on the palate after each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer but it tastes better than it smells.

UCLABrewN84, Mar 06, 2012
Photo of djrn2
4/5  rDev +5.5%

djrn2, Dec 14, 2011
Photo of Thorpe429
3.15/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle shared by Darrell at a recent tasting. Served in a snifter.

Pours a yellow-orange color with a white head and a moderate amount of lacing on the way down. The nose brings forward quite a bit of grain and bread with some mild yeast presence and a touch of a farmhouse character. The taste is mostly just a bit of grainy malt without too much else. The finish is oddly dry and a bit too bitter. Not terribly drinkable.

Thorpe429, Jan 31, 2011
Photo of zestar
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

zestar, Nov 02, 2013
Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%

acurtis, Jan 15, 2012
Photo of metter98
3.73/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is slightly hazy golden yellow in color and has a moderate amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a finger and a half high off white head that took a long time to died down and left a huge pillow of bubbles in the center of the glass, a collar around the edge, and lots of lacing down the sides.
S: There are light to moderate aromas of earthy yeast in the nose along with notes of grassy hops and some hints of peppery spices towards the finish.
T: The taste is similar to the smell notes of grainy malts and a light amount of bitterness. The light bits of spices are most noticeable towards the back end of the taste and linger through the finish.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and slightly dry on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is easy to drink and has some interesting aromas and flavors, but the dryness seems unusual for the style and cuts through (instead of emphasizing) the malty and earthy flavors.

metter98, Feb 27, 2013
Photo of brentk56
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a hazy honey color with a creamy head that declines to a film with pancake bubbles and leaves shards of lace

Smell: Peaches and cream, mineral elelments and fusel alcohol

Taste: Starts with a caramel malt backbone and a fruity element that has a peachy flavor and is joined by an herbal bitterness, mid-palate; after the swallow, earthy flavors interject and are followed by a mineral-like, medicinal bitterness at the back of the tongue

Mouthfeel: Thick bodied and creamy with vivacious, but soft carbonation

Drinkability: Rather nice and quite interesting, although I don't really care for the finish

Thanks, ppoitras, for the experience

brentk56, Aug 04, 2007
Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.88/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Misty tangerine with few visible yeast after the pour. The head is all kinds of wonderful and is an indication of the quality brewing going on at The Lost Abbey. It's polished ivory with a lemonish tint and is both sticky and rocky. It may not be the masterpiece that one might find on a world-class Belgian biere de garde, but it isn't that far behind. Later pours yeast things up nicely.

The aroma is pale malty, tangy fruity and barely spicy. I'm reminded of a Belgian pale ale with an unaggressive yeast strain. The yeast strain that was used is described as a 'lager yeast with hybrid fermentation at ale temperatures'. I wish the brewery had gone with something else because this one is short on esteriness and has virtually no farmhouse character at all.

Avant Garde is good beer that doesn't blow me away after the first several ounces. I don't think it's hiding a whole lot of complexity, so it's doubtful that time and warming will change much. The ingredients list indicates that it'll favor pale malt and grassy hops... and that's exactly the case. For those of you who care about such things, the hop bill is made up of German Brewer's Gold, Strissespalt Spalt and Czech Saaz.

The flavor profile includes barely toasted pale malt, a French bread yeastiness and more pungent, grassy, herbal, white peppery hops than expected. The sunny lemon zestiness of the hops is what allows the above flavor score to be granted. It also indicates that this one is best consumed fresh. Once they fade, there won't be much left to take their place. The back end is an interesting combination of lightly sticky sugars (early) and semi-snappy dryness (late).

The light-medium mouthfeel strikes the right note in terms of size. However, there aren't enough bubbles to buoy the beer like it needs to be buoyed. Things feel best on first contact, then it's downhill from there. To the beer's credit, the slide is a slow one and never slips below average.

Avant-garde: (noun) unorthodox or daring; radical. Even though this is good beer, The Lost Abbey/Port Brewing Company missed a golden opportunity to brew something truly special, something truly avant-garde, something deliciously daring. Instead, they've brewed something simplistic and safe. The fact that I'm still enjoying the result is a testament to Tomme's skill around a brew kettle.

BuckeyeNation, Dec 12, 2007
Photo of Phyl21ca
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a medium yellow color ale with a big foamy white head with good retention and good lacing. Aroma of medium sweet malt with a distinctive yeast presence. Taste is dominated by medium sweet malt with some bread and yeast notes and a slightly dry finish. Body is about average with some great carbonation. Interesting but lacking some character to make this truly interesting and I cannot see this beer aging well.

Phyl21ca, Jun 26, 2007
Photo of BEERchitect
3.83/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Awsome always to get to try the Lost Abbey stuff. Thanks Clvand0.

The beer pours a very bright golden, orange color, not unlike orange juice (no pulp). A dainty head quickly forms and settles with a lace of paper thin whiteness. Not overly carbonated and has a still appearance.

Strong aromas of pilsner malts, vineous alcohols, and oranges. Orange aroma dominates the fruity esters while backups of papaya, pineapple, apples, peaches, and pears. Could be mistaken for a pina colada if not for the woodsy, vineous tartness.

Flavors also favor the esters with the citrus and tropical flavors that are a direct transfer from the nose. Maltiness begins to play a bigger part with a soft, bready taste and light graininess. Phenols of white pepper and soft medicinal notes wrap around the alcohol taste and texture.

Quite sweet and heavy with no buffer from the carbonation. Still, orange juice acidity, citrus, and sweetness linger deeply into the finish.

A tasty beer but the fruit flavor and overly orange notes challenge the notion of beer.

BEERchitect, May 11, 2009
Photo of mikesgroove
4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I picked up this bottle a few weeks ago and had been dying to crack it open. One of the last few regular Lost Abbey releases I had yet to try. 750ml bottle was served at room temperature and poured into a chimay goblet. Consumed on 10/03/2008.

The pour was nice with a very hazy, light golden amber. Lots of sediment in the bottle with a nice amount of carbonation rising up through the glass. A nice two inch head of white foam gathered on the top and settled down lightly producing a nice amount of side glass lace.

The aroma was rich and malty. Lots of caramel and light bready notes coming through almost immediatly, with a light punch of grain tucked in behind them and a light nose of peach poking up beyond that. The flavor was more of the same, light touches of peaches and apricots, perhaps a touch of fresh grassy notes that were sitting on top a nice bit lo light grain. Intresting touch of caramel on the initial sip that quickly mellowed out behind the light fruit notes, which combined with a long dry finish really helped push the malt profile to the forefront. Nice carbonation kept this one feeling lively throughout the session, with a medium bodied feel that was just heavy enough to coat the tongue. Easily a sessionable ale, as the ABV was low enough and barely noticeable, though I have to admit I tended to like this one better as it was colder.

Overall while not my favorite of the lost abbey beers, it was defintly solid as far as I was concerned. I would have no issue with trying this one again anyday, though at the pricetag I am not sure I would really try and track it down. Still though a solid and very respectable beer that i would not turn my nose up to.

mikesgroove, Oct 05, 2008
Photo of Texasfan549
3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

Texasfan549, Sep 05, 2013
Photo of kjkinsey
3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

kjkinsey, Sep 05, 2013
Photo of womencantsail
3.63/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: A hazy copper color with lots of white foam.

S: Yeasty and bready/doughy with some orange aroma.

T: Also yeasty, some caramel and malt flavors, the citrus here is mild as well.

M: Good carbonation and medium bodied.

D: Certainly not bad, but not outstanding, either.

womencantsail, Jul 24, 2009
Photo of ygtbsm94
3/5  rDev -20.8%

ygtbsm94, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of GRG1313
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%

GRG1313, Oct 26, 2013
Photo of spycow
4/5  rDev +5.5%

spycow, Nov 27, 2011
Photo of jaydoc
4/5  rDev +5.5%

jaydoc, Feb 12, 2014
Photo of ChainGangGuy
4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

After years of planning and months of waiting, I cannot describe how gratifying it was, for me, to finally be able to review the Bière de Garde style.

Appearance: Pours a deep, orangey-copper body with a foamy, snow white head.

Smell: Sugary breadcrusts, honey, dried fruits, rolled hay, maybe some lemon in there as well.

Taste: The taste is an array of delicate, elegant flavors, light caramel, fruitiness, buttered sourdough bread, and a splash of Lady Grey tea. Lighty bitter finish, with some alcohol popping in right at the end.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Light carbonation. A slight stickiness on the palate. Some alcohol warmth, too.

Drinkability: There were times where AndoBrew and I thought "What did we get ourselves into? This is never going to come together!!" But when those wonderful smells start coming from the beer, when the flavors begin the meld, when the obscenities start flying, and the smiles start shining, we knew that it was all worth it.

ChainGangGuy, May 21, 2007
Photo of oberon
3.96/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first Lost Abbey beer to try.Pours into my Hennepin glass a slight hazed peach color with a great looking thick one finger off white head that leaves a nice full ring of broken lace as it settles ever so slowly.I pick up vanilla with a peaches cream-like note,some mildy nutty pilsner malt as well.Flavors of nutty pilsner malts,vanilla,and a light tart green apple in the finish.A great food beer with alot of richness and subtle flavors.

oberon, Oct 15, 2013
Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

westcoastbeerlvr, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of largadeer
3/5  rDev -20.8%

largadeer, Apr 08, 2013
Photo of zeff80
3.68/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Poured out a very cloudy, bronze/copper color with a one-finger, tan head of thick foam. It left some nice rings of lace.

S - It smelled yeasty and of candy sugar. There was a fairly strong malty quality, too.

T - Good malt backbone with a spicy yeast taste. There was a mild sourness that you'd expect in a Biere de Garde but it wasn't very strong.

M - It was crisp and sharp with a dry finish. A medium-bodied beer that is pretty easy-drinking.

D - This is a good Belgian-style ale from The Lost Abbey but seems to be a little style-confused.

zeff80, Mar 30, 2010
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Avant Garde from The Lost Abbey
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