Avant Garde - The Lost Abbey

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Reviews: 335
Hads: 661
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 6.54%
Wants: 34
Gots: 54 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Bière de Garde |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: xlperro on 05-12-2006

At the Lost Abbey, we pride ourselves on producing beers of the highest quality and distinction. Avant Garde is our commitment to brewing beers to no particular style. Some might want to label this as a beer brewed in the Biere de Garde tradition of Northern France. We would prefer to say it was brewed in the Avant Garde style of beers that will reward all those who seek the not so ordinary. Deep gold in color with hints of biscuits, caramel and fresh baked bread, this beer is sure to delight the senses and palates of consumers everywhere.
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Photo of Beerandraiderfan
3.21/5  rDev -16%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a nice blonde yellow, much like many of the acclaimed belgian strong pale ales with its glow and virgin white head. Aroma was more bready than pale, but the pungent belgian yeast esters were here. Lemons and spice in a restrained amount.

one of the light and bready beers, thats impressive when you can pull it off, but not necessarily going to bbe something I'm all about as a recurring customer. I'm not a biere de garde guy, but as far as they go, this one is decent enough. There's a fine hop quality, very small, built with a belgian yeast, light body but bready quality that is probably a relatively difficult beer to pull off. (641 characters)

Photo of biglobo8971
2.83/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

poured from bottle into tulip
A - very beautiful beer, almost a rosey amber color. Great 1 inch head with thick lacing the whole drink
S - nothing, I tried and tried. Did not get any aroma at all, even let it warm up quite a bit while drinking hoping something would come through. It did not.
T - very muted, not one flavor stands out to me. It is a well crafted beer, but the taste is very average.
M - very easy to drink, I kept going back for more. Wish the other characteristics were as good.
O - average at best, was hoping for more. Disapointed in this one. (563 characters)

Photo of rodenbach99
3.08/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

750ml brown bottle with cork. Thanks to Julien and Pierre-Luc. Golden blond ale, a white thick head is on top. The nose is unidimentional, grainy and fruity (cherry). The grain is omnipresent and ackward. The taste doesn't differ from the nose with grain and maize. Some hops in the aftertaste. Medium bodied. Overall an easy drinking bière de garde that would have benefit from less grain and more malt (!!) (409 characters)

Photo of tbern007
3.41/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had this one at the Crowfoot Valley in CR, CO.
Pours hazy golden, light amber, orange. Huge white head, good lace.
Scent is light pale malt, grass, a little bit of yeast.
Taste is of yeast, grass, pale malt, a tiny bit of peach and lemon. Initial taste is better than after. Finishes a bit bitter and peppery, dry.
Light mouthfeel. A little light on the carbonation.
Overall decent but I probably wouldn't get it again. So many others out there to try.... (459 characters)

Photo of hopfacebrew
3.71/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a bottle at the local store. No dates.

A - The bee was poured to a globe glass and poured a hazy golden yellow/orange color with a huge 3 finger white bubbly head. Nice retention and lacing throughout. Looks outstanding.

S - Mild yeast aroma as well as a variety of malted grains on the nose. Not as powerful as I was expected but pleasant.

T - The beer starts similar to the nose in that mild yeast flavors and malt bill coats the palette just as you'd expect from the aroma. Hides the alcohol extremely well and easy to drink. Mild bitterness. Finishes clean and smooth.

M - Lighter bodied with good carbonation. Smooth.

O - A good beer I could see myself drinking a lot of. I liked the grain bill and crisp light nature of the beer. Enjoyable.

Note: This review was a re-post from my former account, jmkratt, which was hacked and I lost all my reviews...sorry for the redundancy.

Serving type: bottle

Reviewed on: 04-25-2011 13:00:35 (955 characters)

Photo of Philousa
3.79/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Imbibed on tap at the Lost Abbey tasting room 12/31/2011.

Poured a warm golden amber with a thin layer of white head. Nearly clear in appearance. Lots of subtle fruit aromas, strawberry stood out the most, followed by nutty, sugary malt. Sweet hops in the background, lurking. The nutty, fruity barley malt is the showcase. The barely-there hops balance it out so it isn't too sweet. This isn't Lambic sweet, but more of a slight fruity/nectar sweet. The feel is a bit malty with a dry finish.

I was won over with this beer's fruity tendencies. The sweeter side of the malts are uncovered over time, almost rewarding you for continuing to drink and discover. I am always complaining that Belgian beers have too much candied sugar in them. Well, this beer seems to know how to solve that. Please make the malt for your Dubbels more like this one! I had to get some to go, and will look for this in local stores as well. (921 characters)

Photo of scottyg354
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Golden yellow with a huge head each pour, the head was actually overwheling at times, sometimes 5-6 fingers high.

S: Funk, Lemons and some spice and bread.

T:Lemony and Spice, bready an funky. Def tastes more like a Saison than anything, maybe with a little wild ale character as well.

M: Crisp and fluffy almost reminded me of a heffe or wit. Goes down smoth.

O: Not a bad beer, paired this up with some brie and wassa crackers. Worked out pretty well. Would be a good weeknight beer on a hot summer night. (514 characters)

Photo of BucannonXC5
3.44/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a tap into a pint glass at Vine Cottage in San Diego (La Mesa), Calif. Caramel color with about 1 ¼ inches of foamy head. Nice lacing on the top, while the film on the sides were in rings. Very impressive looking beer.

Nothing too special on the smell, but I was 0-for-2 on the smells tonight, so who knows? I got some hints of some kind of malts and citrus hops. Kind of bland overall.

Some fruity stuff up front, but not overbearing. Slightly bitter finish. Just a tad better than the nose.

Medium body. Average-to-lively carbonation. Bitter on the tongue after.

A bit disappointed for my first (EDIT: second) Lost Abbey beer. The look was the part of his beer. (681 characters)

Photo of spicelab
3.7/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bomber thanks to Adam@Platinum Liquor.

Bright and clear orange with a very large white head. Leaves good lace trails and a raised ring.

Pretty sweet and vibrant nose, showing refined honey, pear and boiled sweets with interesting nutty undertones. Touch of lemon and grapefruit pith save it from being a total sweetfest.

That is, until you encounter the full-on candy floss sweetness in the taste. Still get plenty of nutty, woody notes, but slightly less clarity around the elements detected in the nose.

Sticky and relatively full mouthfeel. Pretty busy carbonation and mild astringency on the mid-palate.

Nicely made and drinks well, without pushing any boundaries. Lacks X-factor, though who's to say Lost Abbey thought this needed it. (744 characters)

Photo of ehammond1
3.78/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

On Tap

Churchill's Pub & Grille
San Marcos, CA

Auburn and rust with a thick and tight white soapy head that stays perched atop the glass. Rings of sticky lacing slide down the glass. Beautiful.

A combination of bread, mild yeast, and lemon in the nose.

Slight Belgian yeast tang and a bit of spice present in flavor. A bit of sweet fruit and caramel malt but a very mild tasting beer in nearly every regard.

The mouthfeel is the star of the show with this beer. Highly carbonated, luscious yet smooth, full and bold yet smooth and easy drinking. No alcohol presence. Impressive.

An easy drinking Biere de Garde that pairs and drinks well with food. (655 characters)

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Always happy to try a new beer from Lost Abbey.

The beer pours a golden-orange color with a large white head. The aroma is full of flowers and apricots, with some candy sugar and Belgian yeast notes also coming through.

The flavor is similar. I get a lot of orange citrus notes, as well as some very sweet floral notes and some biscuit malt. The candy sugar and alcohol also come through.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. (434 characters)

Photo of Cyberkedi
3.73/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a lovely clear amber with a very thick and rather persistent white head. Crisp, malty aroma has a sharp fruity tone like a good cider. Satisfying flavor is mainly malty and has an undertone of sour apple, not complex but fine for sipping. Smooth, firm-bodied texture has a fair amount of fizz, and it leaves a malty, fruity, slightly woody finish. (353 characters)

Photo of mltobin
4.12/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I picked up a 750mL bottle of this while driving through Mass.

Poured this de Garde into a large wine glass and it has a light golden tone with one finger of bright white head. It has a smell of fruit, such as pear and orange, also some spices. There are some malts as well with a bit of earthiness to it. Upon sipping, I can taste pepper. hops, cloves and yeast. All of it is balanced very nicely. MF is medium in the body with a similar carbonation level. All in all, this is one of the Biere de Gardes that stands out for me. Not an inexpensive beer, but worth it. (568 characters)

Photo of Travisnin
3.61/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: pours a beautiful copper color, nice mellow lacing.

S: smell is of citrus and spice.

T: bland coming from a lost abbey ale but overall not a bad tast. It is something I could drink in the heat. The tast is small compared to the tast though.

M: lots if carbonation

O: a little disappointed in this as I am normally blown away by any lost abbey beer. Maybe I'm just not a huge fan of biere de gardes? I give it a 4 out of 5 (429 characters)

Photo of Derek
4.12/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Hazy bronze with a white head, some retention, light lace.

S: Light acidic aroma, pineapple, mango, light phenolic spicing, citrus rind, wheaty biscuit, a little grassy.

T: Candied pineapple, pappaya, mango, phenolic spicing, slight funk (Brett?), marmalade, wheaty biscuit.

M: Body is on the heavier side of moderate, hint of acidity, off-dry with a slightly drying alcohol finish.

D/O: A good drinker and overall a good crafted brew. (442 characters)

Photo of LiquidBread219
3.5/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750mL bottle with a cork and cage seal.

A=It poured nice white head with a slight amber color but mostly a Golden color. It was a little Hazy in color. Looks pretty Good. Some lacing

S=I pick up a scent of fruit (apricot) and mostly spice notes on the nose

T=The taste is nice get the spice notes in the taste more don't get that much of the fruit notes from the nose.

M=The mouthfeel is decent (medium style) the one thing I just thought it was kind of overcarbonated

O=Overall a nice enjoyable beer, refreshing and light goes really goes down good and is refreshing. (573 characters)

Photo of mactrail
2.92/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

On tap at Pizza Port in Ocean Beach. Not much head or lacing. Hazy amber in the tulip. Flavors are sunk in a funk. Main taste is a distillation of that dirty, back of the mouth flavor that gives an edgy taste to a lot of Belgian styles. Unrelieved by any sweetness, though a hint of malt comes through in the front of the mouth. Hops seem designed to intensify the dark, tarry flavors. Long, unpleasant biter aftertaste. One of the least drinkable beers I've encountered, whatever it's value as an oddity.

Had this in bottle in early 2010 and liked it a lot better than this tap version. (588 characters)

Photo of ADZA
3.55/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Another brew with thanks from Mrkennedy and it pours a hazy yellow golden hue which leaves a two finger head that slowly settles down to a one finger layer and little clingy lacing,the smell is baked bread,yoghurt,honey and vanilla,the mouthfeel is medium-full bodied and very nice for the style almost like liquid bread but the tastes of baked bread,honey,candied pears,light boiled candy and warming stonefruit towards the end dont really jump out at me to say WOW its more of just a good Biere de Garde than a great one cheers. (530 characters)

Photo of olafisberserker
3.35/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Tried this out of a 1 pt 9.4 oz bottle at home.

A - A light golden color with a fluffy white head that leaves a little trace on the glass.

S - Fairly fruity aroma with a tropical smell dominating.

T - As with the smell, a taste of fruit. Strong banana taste leading it off.

M - A nice level of carbonation that dances across the tongue. Doesn't sit heavy in the mouth but does not have the typical feel of a 'light' beer in the mouth. A nice body.

O - A nice, light beer with easy drinkability. A little fruity but not in a terribly bad way. (546 characters)

Photo of AdamBear
2.7/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

A-golden color. thin sticky white head

S-smells like sweet honey with a touch of vanilla. reminds me of an octoberfest style. good strength

T-comes in with a taste of honey, sweet grains, and alcohol. the after-taste is dry. there are grains and a bitterness of alcohol that stick to the tongue.

M-dry medium carbonation with a dry finish

O-this beer was actually very difficult to finish. i love strong beers but the alcohol note was just too evident. this was just a gross tasting beer. don't even try it. (511 characters)

Photo of scoots511
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750mL bottle with a cork and cage seal. My bottle was difficult to open, the cork tore off finally afte about 5 minutes trying to open it, when it did open there was only a slight hiss.

It poured nice white head with a slight amber color. It is not a transparent beer, slight cloudiness. Looks like a great refreshing beer so far.

I pick up a scent of fruit (apricot, which actually matches the color) and honey, at first and another unknown smell, not bad but unidentified so far...a spice.

The taste is nice, still have some unidentified flavors though, a slight of the typical "Heineken" flavor...

The mouthfeel is nice, a little more head retention (possibly from my glass) and carbonation would be perfect for my taste.

Overall a nice enjoyable beer, refreshing and light goes really good with some cheese. (816 characters)

Photo of uturn
3.93/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This is a 2008 vintage.

750 ml corked and caged bottle poured into a Augustijn Grand Cru tulip.

A: This beer poured a hazy deep gold with a slight off white 2 finger fluffy head which left a minimal lacing on the glass.

S: The smell was sweet and bready with some citrus.

T: The taste started off with some pepper spices and sweet with malt, caramel and apples, there was a mild bitterness in the finish and only a little bit funkiness to this brew.

M: This beer had a medium mouthfeel and dry finish with a nice level of carbonation which massaged the tongue.

D&O: The drinkability was very good and refreshing, as I find most Bière de Garde to be. I would like to try this one again. (697 characters)

Photo of DavoleBomb
4.45/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a long stemmed Lost Abbey snifter.

4.5 A: First pour yielded five fingers of head and just one of beer. A few pours down the road I ended up with a hazed golden wheat color with three fingers of pillowy white head with decent retention and a good bit of lacing.

4.5 S: I'm not sure how a biere de garde is different from a saison, but this smells like a saison mixed with a witbier. Barnyard funkiness with a light hay aroma. Coriander and pithy fruit rind. Grassy hops and peppery spiciness from the yeast. Light toasty maltiness. Not very complex, but wonderfully pleasant.

4.5 T: Again, not overly complex, but really tasty. Barnyard funkiness with hay, grassy hops, and wild flowers. Light toastiness from the malts along with a subtle breadiness. Coriander and pepper spiciness. Very nice.

4.0 M: Lighter medium to medium body. Carbonation level works and is spritzy on the tongue. Extremely smooth as the yeast is not overbearing.

4.5 D: Best LA beer I've had yet. This is a relatively simple, great tasting beer. I might actually pay what this costs regularly if it were available in my area. (1,117 characters)

Photo of ckcanady
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- pours a hazy gold/orange with a very fluffy strong white head! Really good head and very carbonated.
S- Citrusy hops detected along with toasty grain.
T- Biscuity malts with a citrus hint
M- light-medium body, crisp, sweet, and delicate
A good Biere de Garde that is very drinkable (284 characters)

Photo of jsanford
3.5/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml C&C bottle poured into a LA San Marco Tumbler.

A - Pours a hazy orange-gold with a fluffy white head that settles to a thick cap, leaving sudsy lacing as it recedes.
S - Crisp toasted grains, citrus zest, and herbal Noble hops. Very clean and refreshing.
T - More crisp malt with a touch of citrus and floral hops. This isn't as clean as I'd hoped, and the alcohol is creeping in, as is a metallic "copper penny" flavor that adds an unpleasant astringency to the finish. This is a pretty fresh bottle, so it's odd to find a metallic flavor that I usually associate with old bottle, so perhaps it's supposed to be in there? I don't know enough about the Biere de Garde style to make any assumptions, but I'm not digging it.
M - Crisp, with a medium-thin body and sharp carbonation.
O - Not a bad hot-day sorta brew, this is fairly sessionable despite the 7% ABV. I just wish the flavor stacked up to the nose, and that the unpleasant metallic flavor wasn't there. (970 characters)

Avant Garde from The Lost Abbey
86 out of 100 based on 335 ratings.