Avant Garde - The Lost Abbey

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85
very good

626 Ratings
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Ratings: 626
Reviews: 333
rAvg: 3.79
pDev: 9.76%
Wants: 30
Gots: 48 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
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California, United States

Style | ABV
Bière de Garde |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
At the Lost Abbey, we pride ourselves on producing beers of the highest quality and distinction. Avant Garde is our commitment to brewing beers to no particular style. Some might want to label this as a beer brewed in the Biere de Garde tradition of Northern France. We would prefer to say it was brewed in the Avant Garde style of beers that will reward all those who seek the not so ordinary. Deep gold in color with hints of biscuits, caramel and fresh baked bread, this beer is sure to delight the senses and palates of consumers everywhere.

(Beer added by: xlperro on 05-12-2006)
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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

Photo of Phelps
3.25/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed during a tasting of Bieres de Garde, poured into a plastic tasting glass.

The color of honey with a frothy half-finger off-white head with fairly good retention.

The nose: honey, caramel and very subtle green apple along with a floral character -- maybe roses or orange blossoms. There's also a tiny bit of nuttiness and not a lot of cellar character, though it is perhaps a little oxidized.

The musty cellar quality emerges in the flavor. Earthy, roses, very very subtle wild yeast, honey and some savory notes. Finishes on the sweet side.

This bottle might be old -- it's nearly flat, though the body is a nice velvety medium. It's a little soapy, lingering on the tongue for a while alongside a subtle tinge of alcohol.

Avant Garde has a pretty nice, complex flavor, but wasn't the best of the style I tried that day.

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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

Photo of jacobseyb
3.28/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A=Pours a nice reddish brown copper color with an off white head that laces decently and dissipates quickly

S=not very strong aromas, but some biscuity malt followed with some apple

T=similar to smell with some dryness and crispness

M=dry with some good carbonation that doesn't stick around long

D=drinkable for sure, but not one I'm going after really often.

Photo of zoso1967
3.28/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Avent garde pours a slightly amber golden color with a tightly packed head that is just a shade too dark to be called bright white. The head sticks around forever and leaves wonderful lacing on the tulip glass. Before I go any further, I just have to give Lost Abbey props for the name. It is both clever and classy. The aroma is fairly subdued, but quite nuanced with a touch of toasted malt sweetness, a hint of acidic fruit and a bit of musty tartness. The flavor is balanced, but slightly malt forward with a definite breadyness that mixes with noble hop flavor, apricot, lemon and a touch of toasted malt. That cellar tartness is in the flavor as well, though it is not as funky as say, your average saison. As the beer warms, the esters from the yeast really take over and it becomes a bit unpleasant. The mouthfeel is medium with a nice slightly dry finish that has a spiciness to it that is not nearly as prominent before swallowing. The drinkability really suffers from the yeast taking over as it warms. This is my first biere de garde and I am looking forward to trying others in the future.

Photo of drabmuh
3.28/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle shared by Darrell, thanks.

Beer is yellow with a slight haze with a decent but short lasting head of small and medium bubbles that leaves only a little lacing on the glass. Carbonation is moderate to low. Looks OK.

Aroma is odd with almost a harsh bitterness to it but it's not hoppy. The bitterness is coming from some sort of yeast / grain, it's not too offputting but it's not what I expected.

Beer is medium bodied and boring. There is nothing of note that would make you think that this beer is a Biere de Garde. It has that graininess that I feared from the aroma at the back end of the mouth. I suppose when push comes to shove it's just an OK beer, a pretty big disappointment for me personally.

Photo of cosmicevan
3.29/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

bottle from...sheesh...a WHILE ago. poured into a lost abbey teku.

a - brew poured a transparent shimmering orange...almost with pinkish tints. nice finger of fizzy, but partially creamy head. really nice visible steady carbonation swam to the surface.

s - nose is a toasted malt, some syrupy caramel sweetness. earthy.

t - taste picks up where the nose left off starting out with some toasted malt and then washed over with caramel sweetness.

m - fairly full bodied and chewy. soft carbonation.

o - overall BdG isn't my favorite style, but this is a nice offering. a bit rich and syrupy and chewy for what i like in this style, but the toasted malt is nice. the caramel and thickness make it feel like an old barleywine. this beer should've been consumed a while ago.

Photo of FeDUBBELFIST
3.3/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

750mL to tulip.

A: With a semi-vigorous pour, four fingers of yellow tinted head is created, frothy, airy and very long lasting. The body is lightly cloudy and has a tangerine hue with medium saturation. Lacing is spare to fair.

S: Light scents of toasted grain and straw compliment the delicatedly hopped nose. Hop aromas include herbs, grass and celery with a light lemony-orange zest brightening things up a bit. An earthy character remains, balancing must with light funk and barnyard. Whiffs of menthol come as a detriment to the overall aroma profile.

T: The flavor follows the nose closely and isn't any more impressive. Mainly earthy with semi-sweet fruity flavors supporting. Dusty, spicy. Lightly sweet and lightly bitter. Unwelcomed flavors of bandage mixed with light medicinal notes.

M: Medium body with a dry and chalky finish. Fizzy carbonation. A mild tartness and very light sourness rounds out the mouthfeel almost perfectly.

D: The drinkability is fine but the uninspired aromas and flavors will likely keep Avant Garde from being a repeat purchase.

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3.3/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

For a farmhouse ale, I thought it was alright. It had a nice yellow/orange appearance with a nice two-finger head. The taste on the other hand was a bit weak...wish it had just a little more of that citrus and yeasty flavor to it. The mouthfeel was okay, with the right amount of carbonation. The beer was also very easy to drink and would probably have it again.

Photo of Stevedore
3.3/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

On tap at Lost Abbey in San Marcos, CA.

A- Lighter golden-copper body, half finger white head with minimal retention time, not much lacing.

S- Lightly toasted crackers, mild tartness, a bit of lemon, bread, baker's yeast. Decent complexity, but it seems to be lacking something; I'm not sure what that would be. Possibly some noble hops would make this nose more compelling. Or peppers.

F- Mild booziness at first, a bit of mild leathery funk, biscuits, crackers, lemon zest. Minerals. It's solid, but nothing special. As above, it seems to be missing something that would add some complexity.

M- Medium bodied, good carbonation, not soft nor hard but is about right. A bit of bitter lemon on the finish blunted by the bready sweetness.

O- Not my thing. It's certainly not like any other Biere de Garde or Saison that I've tried. Seems like it's missing something here. As above, it could probably benefit from something more than what it already has.

Final score: 3.30

Photo of olafisberserker
3.33/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Tried this out of a 1 pt 9.4 oz bottle at home.

A - A light golden color with a fluffy white head that leaves a little trace on the glass.

S - Fairly fruity aroma with a tropical smell dominating.

T - As with the smell, a taste of fruit. Strong banana taste leading it off.

M - A nice level of carbonation that dances across the tongue. Doesn't sit heavy in the mouth but does not have the typical feel of a 'light' beer in the mouth. A nice body.

O - A nice, light beer with easy drinkability. A little fruity but not in a terribly bad way.

Photo of Dukeofearl
3.35/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle shared with my wife. Purchased at LaBodega in Riverside, CA in July 2007; price not noted ($8.99?).

Pours a pretty golden with almost no carbonation and almost no head. Haziness from onboard yeasties keep this one pretty cloudy.

Aroma slightly sharp yeastiness, spicy in an ill-defined way. Flavor is moderately bodied, full of a variety of yeast flavors, with a sharp acid and hops ending.

I'll be honest, I love Pizza Port beers, I loved the Lost & Found Ale and I quite enjoyed the Red Barn Ale, but this one leaves me disappointed. Not really sure why, to be honest, but it just doesn't grab me. Maybe I need to try another day and see if it an off batch or it's me.

Photo of craytonic
3.35/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Hazy apricot. Good head and lacing.

Smell: Pale malt, banana, spice

Taste: Pale malt, yeast, bread, coriander, banana, spices, crisp tart apple and pear. Some citrus.

Mouthfeel: Well done carbonation, which is actually surprising for lost abbey.

Drinkability: You could drink it, if you wanted to.

Average in every way. Beer is also not typical of the style.

Photo of IntriqKen
3.38/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This fills the goblet with aprocot colored hazy liquid toped with a full finger of white head that melts to craggy top-covering goodness.
The smell is musty, toasted malt with a definite earthiness and powdery dryness that seems to evolve into slightly sweet amber malts.
Mouthfeel is both watery and foamy from the abundant carbonation. Sharp bitterness hits the tip of the tongue first then slips away to dry, earthiness.
The flavors are very different from the smells although some of the same adjectives describe them both.
Musk
Sharp orange-peel.
Lightly toasted malt.
Mists of honey.
....then, drying with the reminder of both orange and grapefruit peel bitter hops.
Interesting...definitely an American take on the style.

Avant Garde from The Lost Abbey
85 out of 100 based on 626 ratings.