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Cuvee De Tomme - The Lost Abbey

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Ratings: 1,092
Reviews: 405
rAvg: 4.21
pDev: 11.16%
Wants: 655
Gots: 261 | FT: 13
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California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: jcalabre on 06-14-2003

Once upon a time it was the most award winning Pizza Port beer of all time. Now it has found a new home at The Lost Abbey.

A massive brown ale base that is made from four fermentable sugars including Malted Barley, Raisins, Candi Sugar and Sour Cherries, this beer is fully fermented before being placed in Bourbon barrels where the beer ages for one year with the Sour Cherries and the wild Brettanomyces yeast that we inoculate the barrels with.
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Ratings: 1,092 | Reviews: 405
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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.66/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a murky dark brown color with no head. An oily film develops on the top of the beer and there is some floating sediment that sinks to the bottom of the glass. There is no lacing whatsoever. Smells of vinegar, sour cherries, and funk/must. Taste is of sour cherries, malt vinegar, wood, and funk/must. There is an alcohol presence in the throat after each sip. There is no carbonation on this beer. Extremely flat and somewhat drying in the mouth. Overall, this is a nice smelling and tasting beer but the appearance and mouthfeel kill it for me. This would be awesome if the carbonation issue were fixed. Disappointing for the $15.99 I paid for the small bottle.

Photo of cjgator3
3.75/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Enjoyed at Hunahpu's Day 2015 in Tampa at Cigar City Brewing

Photo of ricke
4.39/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2009 vintage.

Murky brown with a small tanned head that leaves some lacings.

The smell is complex and balanced with notes of brett, sour cherries, grass, mud and malts. A hint of vanilla in the nose as well.

The flavor is tart with pleasant cherry notes, funky brett, grass and some liqueur-like fruity notes. Lightly sweet malts and notes of wood in the foundation. The finish is dry and lightly bitter with notes of wood, cherries and just a hint of alcohol.

Medium body and well balanced carbonation.

A really good beer. Complex, interesting and tasty - what more can you ask for?

Photo of orbitalr0x
4.32/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2009 vintage. 375ml corked bottle. Dark cola brown pour with red highlights and not much head...a ring of khaki bubbles. Aromas of deep malts swimming with a mix of raisin and tart cherry. Woody notes and vinegar funk. Vanilla undertone...the tart cherry is vibrant.

First sip is rich sweet dark malts enveloped in a mix of tart cherries and raisins. Big sourness along with woody oak tannins and a nice funk throughout. Interplay between sweet and sour all the way down. Not as acidic as the '08. Touch of vanilla and brown sugar on the finish. Damn good.

Mouthfeel is very mellow carbonation but it works well...body is good and well placed. Each sip leads to the next and the alcohol provides some warming. I'm enjoying this vintage.

2008 vintage. 375ml corked bottle. Pours into my tulip glass a deep dark, hazy cola brown color with a small light tan head on top that fades to a ring. Aromas start out with rich, intoxicating malts. Somewhat roasted with caramel, vanilla and raisins. Cherries are big in the nose alongside a tart funkiness with mild vinegar. Brown sugar and oak nuances with light bourbon.

First sip brings roasted, dark malts upfront with notes of caramel and vanilla. Raisins make quite an appearance as well. The middle brings a melding of sour cherries, oak tannins and a tart, somewhat funky brett aspect. Flows down with a whisper of bourbon and finishes quite dry with lingering cherry tones and a tart afterthought. Alcohol is nowhere to be found. A deeply multi-layered taste experience.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a smooth airy quality about it. Good carbonation all the way through. This is somewhat more acidic, with more woody tannins than the original black label bottles I've drank. Overall though, it's still a very tasty treat and I'm glad to have had the chance to sample this year's version. Cheers to Lost Abbey and the Sinner's Club.

Photo of Beerswag
4.39/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at old towne pizza elk grove, ca

Poures into delerium tulip. Looks dark and slightly murky with tones of brown black and carmel. Not to sticky on the glass, light, and definately sour..taste is cherry and chocolate rounded out by a good malt presence, very light mouthfeel for a quad based beer..this beer puckers the toungue with fruity flavors such as cherry and citrus, with the hops displyed on the finish...airee and dry. Carbonation is medium, which I like to go with this dry beer..This is a great 11% barrel aged beer. Some sours just dont pack the abv, and I can't drink more than 22oz of "sour-beer", so this one boads well for me. This with pizza, sherp aged hard yellow cheese, salty food.

Photo of tjthresh
3.94/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours dark red/brown/black, depending on how it is held to the light. The only signs of head is the slight ring around the edge. Aromas of black cherry (comes of Jolly Rancher-ish), soy sauce, slight musty basement, and a touch of alcohol. The flavor is nice and fruity. Loads of tart cherry and plums. Warm alcoholic finish. Silk and oil over the palate. Moderate carbonation. This is less like a beer and more of a wine or high end liquor. Thanks a million Mike.

Photo of Billolick
4.77/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Small bottle, pours very dark amber, dangerous at 12%, long lasting dark tan head, rich nose of dark malts, wood, dark fruits and cherries. Rich, complex and viscous on the tongue. Cherries, wood, bourbon, more dark fruit, moderate sour permeating the mixture and adding more interest and somehow more complexity. World class creation. Night capper, dessert beer supreme. Please send this to NYC/CT/NJ/Mass sometime soon

Photo of badbeer
4.1/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

2008 Version, 375mL bottle:
Color is very dark red with a beige colored head that recedes to a ring around the glass. Smell of acetic acid, cherries, caramel, oak, dark fruits, and brown sugar. Taste is sour with cherry pits, maple, bourbon, dark fruit, and caramel sweetness. Medium carbonation with medium body. Good stuff, I look forward to trying it with a bit more age on it.

Photo of magictrokini
4.32/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours cloudy brown with a nearly tan head. Cherrybomb aroma, with nice oak and bourbon. Taste is heavily cherries, but nice brown sugar, nuts, sour yeast, and alcohol round it out so it is not overwhelming. Good bourbon and cognac flavors come through as it warms. I know it says this is a Strong Ale, but it drinks like a liquer.

Photo of kingcrowing
4.15/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml corked & caged bottle at NotF poured into a sampling glass. Reviewed from notes.

Pours a very hazy dark brown with a a small dark brown head with a nice amount of lacing. Nose is sharp and malt with a good funky nose.

Taste is quite sharp and tart, it's got a very sharp funkiness that's quite unique an tasty. Finish is sharp and funky, quite good.

Photo of ehammond1
4.56/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle (2009)

(Aged for 2 years)

Thanks for sharing, Nathan!

A murky dark brown, bordering on black, with a very thin light brown head. Leaves spots of lacing down the glass.

An incredibly rich and complex aroma: tart sourness, rich and sweet cherries, earth and wood, some vanilla, and other dark fruits like raisins, prunes, and figs complement the rest of the beer incredibly well.

Sweet cherries are the first thing on the palette, along with a blisteringly tart sourness, Brett funk, along with some mild roast and char, and a warming, complementary wood and vanilla backbone. Exceptional.

Medium bodied with ample carbonation.

One of my favorite beers ever. This was a very good year. I would love to try another 2009 at some point.

Photo of sourdog
3.93/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: Looks like a flat cola. No carbonation.

S: Sour cherries & apples. Some oak and vanilla notes.

T: Bursting with sour cherry flavor. Nice sour/tart flavor. Leaning on the too sweet side. I wish there was carbonation to balance this out.

F: Light bodied. No carbonation which is a disappointment to me. It tastes flat.

O: Very nice flavor and I'm enjoying the tart cherry notes. Although this just doesn't do it for me without carbonation. It tastes flat. I appreciate it as a quality craft beer, but it's not my thing.

Photo of Beerandraiderfan
4.25/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a slow deep red. Very little carbonation to it. Aroma of cherry, oak, bitter/sourness.

Taste, nice and tangy, balanced sweetness and sour, wood flavor, red tannins, tinge of vanilla. Alcohol extremely well hidden. Really enjoyed what it brought to the table. The sour aspect made sense that this wasn't all that carbonated, so quit complaining about it, I think its that way with good reason (complimentary).

Drinkability is a little low because the stuff is just so dang expensive ($40 at the goat) and isn't too easy to find around my parts. This was the 09 version.

Photo of OStrungT
4.32/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I picked up a few bottles from the Lost Abbey 1st anniversery party.

This beer pours a dark brown color with a reddish tint to it. It has no head, and I can not detect any signs of carbonation.

This beer smells or sour cherries. It also has a very nice spicy aroma. I smell some citrusy hops, and some spices. Coriander mostly. Cherries, however, are the dominate aroma.

This beer tastes great. It tastes like sour cherries. It is sour, with a nice Belgian spicy flavor. It has some citrusy flavor as well. The alcohol in very well hidden in this beers flavor. As with the aroma, the sour cherries are the dominate flavor.

This beer leaves a sour aftertaste. It is not carbonated at all. I think it would be a little better if it had some carbonation. I am not sure if it was supposed to be carbonated. It was still pretty good though.

I doubt this beer would be the best session beer. It is high in alcohol, and the sour flavor might become a little overbearing after a time. Also, it is hard to come by an it was a little pricy at $15 for a 350ML.

Overall: I have had this beer before, and I will have it again. I love it. What more do I need to say?

Photo of jeonseh
4.28/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

From a 2008 bottle and a huge thanks to peruster for letting me try this one. Poured into a Chimay Goblet.

A - A very deep and dark burgundy color that almost appears to be brown or black. Holding it up to the light gives off a slight golden hue to it but that is it. I was a bit surprised by the utter darkness of the beer. Had a small dirty brown head that sat on top before disappearing and sitting on the sides.

S - Smells a tart cherry with a bit of a musty, barnyard funk to it as well. Reminds me of the red poppy except a bit tarter. Also hints of vanilla, cinnamon and oak waft up as well. A bit surprised that each smell came out a bit different which gave the nose some nice complexity, yet I have to note that I found it to be rather subtle.

T - Taste at first is sweet vanilla and then the tart cherry that comes on strong. There is also a big hit of the barnyard funk mixed in. One interesting aspect is that the cherry seems to gyrate back and forth from sweet to tart. There is also a slight reminder of the quadrupel base as I get a slight hint of raisins intermixed as well. Also get a slight cinnamon spice that seems to pop here and there. The aftertaste is long lasting and is a mix of tart cherry and funk that sits on your tongue for minutes. As the beer warmed up more, I got a bigger hit of the oak spiciness coming forth in the end of the beer and the vanilla near the beginning.

MF - Light carbonation comes in and delivers the flavor. Despite the light carbonation it is long lasting and seems to really make that tart cherry stand out. It leaves the tingle in your mouth as the flavors linger on. There is a medium body and could be a bit thicker possibly but no compliaints.

D - Overall, a very interesting and complex beer. You have to love all of the experimentation going on out there in Port Brewing. This beer really stands out on it complexity more than anything else as each sip is a unique experience. Definitely would have trouble having multiple given the alcohol level since I am feeling it a bit after one but that doesn't mean I wouldn't mind having another. Seems like a good beer to have with some cheese and crackers as well. The one thing hurting the drinkability is that the tart flavors are the ones that really last. After they sit in your mouth for a while, I start to tire of them and desire another beer.

Photo of glid02
4.45/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by Lee - much obliged!

Pours a murky brownish-amber color with a one-finger slightly off-white head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of dark malts backed up by loads of tart cherry aromas. Also present are hints of subtle vanilla from the oak and moderate amounts of funk. As the beer warms very slight amounts of boozy dark fruits - raisins mostly with hints of dates - waft out.

Tastes very good. Dark malt flavors kick things off and are joined almost immediately by large amounts of tart cherries and funk. Midway through the sip hints of vanilla make a brief appearance before giving way to the tart cherry flavors that carry through to a crisp ending. As with the aroma, hints of darker fruit flavors come into play as the beer warms but the tart cherry flavors remain in charge.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with active carbonation.

Drinkability is very good. I had no problems finishing my glass and could easily have a few more.

Overall this really is a fantastic beer and shows why people continue to buy LA beers despite the occasional QC issue. Well worth a shot.

Photo of pwoods
4.69/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Thanks a bunch to Shane(beachbum1975) for sharing this great bottle.

375ml corked and caged brown bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a reddish brown with pretty decent visibility. A moderate head forms and holds for a bit. Decent lacing.

S: A good sour and funky brett combo. Sour cherries blend with the aroma flawlessly. The barrel has done wonders, oaky, sweet, leathery. The funk further festers following Fahrenheit fluxuation.

T/M: Very nice, smooth, rich dark malty base. Yet again, then pleasantly sour and tart cherries match perfectly with the overall beer... never getting remotely in the way, yet making themselves known and adding loads of complexity. There's a bit of a burn sugar quality, maybe as if the cherries were scorched, or maybe it could be from the char of the barrels. Definitely a rich leathery flavor and even feel. Tartness builds as the beer warms. A slight alcohol twang in the swallow but I'd never guess 12% and it's completely hidden other than a bit in the swallow. The body is a smooth medium with good carbonation.

D: Very drinkable. 12% would definitely sneak up on ya.

Photo of Natureboy
4.99/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

An excellent Flanders brown. Poured a dark brown (SRM 37) out of the tap. Minimal head. Medium tart, but balanced with the sweetness of the roasted malt, it is not too acetic and puckery. ABV listed at 11 percent, but there is absolutely no alcohol burn. Huge beer that manages to hide its alcohol in tartness and malt and notes of sour cherry and vanilla. Great take on the Flanders brown.

Photo of ggaughan
4.15/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer poured a nice deep brown color with a slight tan head. This beer definitely has the look and aroma of a nice fruity Port. The taste was of a nice low carbonated, earthy brew with slight taste of oaking from the aging process. The 12% abv makes this a nice dessert drink to sip on and that is how I had it. The alcohol is apparent but not overpowering.

Photo of IntriqKen
4.2/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Came home tonight and met the FedEx guy in my driveway with a box from Port Brewing. My Cuvee de Tomme had arrived!

Pours a deep tea-colored slightly cloudy liquid with a massive tan head that disappeared very quickly to a mere faint ring.

Aromas are definite woods...oak with an only slightly sweet cherry scent and a bit of funkiness. It's actually a warming kind of smell.

Taste is immediately sour belgian beer with a balance of the oak and sour cherries. Nothing sweet in here but nothing bitter either. A very pleasant sourness that seems to hide the alcohol well although the warmth from the 12% definitely comes through.

This is a great dinner beer or substitute for red wine. I'm going to love finishing off this bottle.

Photo of asabreed
4.77/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

25.9 corked and caged bottle into a Brooklyn tulip split between four friends on my balcony. One of the "Last Hurrah" bottles of the night, as my wife and I are moving to New York in exactly one week from Virginia.

Appearance: Very hazy and very dark red wine-like and chocolate covered cherry brown amber, little head and retention, but a gorgeous color, one often not seen by me, with a nearly opaque physical richness and radiance going on.

Smell: Red wine and Flemish Red funkiness going on. Caramel. Nuanced wood and bourbon. I expected the bourbon to be more prominent, but again, it's the nuance that comes to fruition as it warms, and with everything else going, the accents seem to be doing their thing, rather than a complete tun-o-war against everything they did with this, which I like. Lush and tart cherries here really come to fruition. In a Flemish Red it's usually the yeast adding the phenolic tartness and whatnot, but here you can tell it's the cherries. Some caramelized vanilla. Cinnamon rind. Pepper and complex possibly weird spices that could be many. And some weird black magic marker or tar too. There's so much going on here.

Taste: Initial huge, puckering, tart, sweet, sour, cherry madness going on. That's the primary ingredient here, and everything else seems to be playing off of it. Flemish sourness and woodiness too. Subtle notes of caramelized wood and vanilla and spice from the bourbon barrels. And yet there's also a good sense of earthy citrus bitterness, rind-like, coming through. And there's a wealth of spice and pepper and some mild cinnamon, as if they stuck some sticks into the mix while this was doing its thing fermenting. This beer straddles the line between a wine and a beer, and it's the first one that's legitimately done this, and so goddamn well. Wine lovers will find something to love here I think, and I've started to become into it more during the last few years, but that shouldn't detract the beer lovers either. One of the most complete and odd and fascinating experiences with a beer that I've ever had, and I wonder, like a wine, how this would get better with age and what other complexities would start to emerge.

Mouthfeel: Vinous and rich, with not a ton of carbonation, but the subtlety of the carbonation may seem to be a point. Or there's too much acidity from the cherries to have some kind of prickly carbonation. Or it would maybe be reductive or detrimental; I'm not sure. But as I said, it's rich, and like a wine is coating, but either the acidity or... well, I don't know what, but something makes it not sticky or cloying, which makes sense. More like a wine than a beer if you had to point to something, but yes, this is indeed a beer. It's just that line keeps positively wavering between the both of them.

Drinkability: At around $30 a bottle, this is worth it for a few people to split. I would've been happy to drink this myself, but I would 1) want more people to experience than just me, of course, and 2) want to save a bit of money. Five people could easily enjoy this and talk about it for a long time while sipping. But wow, yes, this was an experience. It's unlike any beer I've had, and as the years go on, we'll see what kind of copycats emerge, and if someone can actually attempt to do better. This was my first Lost Abbey brew, and I hope I'm able to afford and find many more as they keep brewing.

Photo of tallarin
3.77/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

This beer has been aging in the bottle for at least a year since I bought it. It took quite a bit of effort to take the cork off, but it made sense once I realized the beer was almost completely flat.
The beer pours a dark burgundy, producing no head and releasing little to no bubbles. It released a peculiar aroma as I was pouring, which I originally though to be vinegar.

The nose is filled with dark fruits such as plum, raisins, etc. There is some acidity in the aromas as well, but nothing too wild. It definitely has a funky character to it that plays well with the dark fruit aromas, I think the bourbon barrel aging also contributes to this.

The beer is surprisingly full bodied for a beer of this kind. It has a sort of boozy quality that is likely accentuated by its “dark” flavors. I can hardly taste the cherries in the beer, but maybe it's a result of aging. There is definitely a touch of acetic acid in this.

I would say this is closer to a Sour Brown (Oud Bruin) than anything. An interesting beer with a lot of subtleties and layers. Good stuff!

Photo of Stigs
4.09/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle, split - served in Red Wine glasses

A - pours with just a couple random bubbles, the beer is very dark burgundy, red...much like wine. the still lifelessness makes one worry about perceived carbonation.

S - very, very sharp lactic sourness...ripe and freshly crushed sour cherries. sweetness from the oak, vanilla, and candi sugar. just a hint of vinegar and grapes to the end.

T - again, massive biting sourness which just clings to the tongue and beats it up. lactic, crushed sour cherries have still kept their flavor for over a year. has a bit of tannic sweetness and dryness that would make it appealing to a wine-drinker. the sweet cherries, oak, and vanilla keep the sourness from being metallic and eve vinegary. surprising hint of cocoa at the end as well.

M - carbonation as expected is a bit on the low side, though still present. slightly dry in the finish due to the big healthy lactic sour bite. long, drawn out lactic sourness just doesnt go away and begs for another sip.

D - well, this one is a bit al over the place. big and bad, cures the biggest sour craving. split a big bottle of this with at least 4, if not 5 people. can be a bit wearing after a bit of time. the 11% is virtually non-present.

Photo of BillyB
4.1/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I tried this beer at a Michael Jackson beer dinner. Luckily it was one of the first on the menu so my palate and taste buds (as well as most of my other senses were not totally mangled).

Appearance is a dark reddish brown with dark ruby highlights and a thick, off-white, to tan head.

Taste is oakey, winey, brandy-like. With some elements of tartness/sourness mixed in(believe it or not). Bready, nutty,barnyard tastes (and a number of complex tastes that I just can't put a name to).
Definitely some vanilla, caramel and some sweet maltiness,

Overall one of the most complex and challenging beers I've ever tasted. I'm sure that is why Jackson chose it for the tasting.


Another example of two of our craft beer pioneers pushing the envelope (and the discerning drinkers palate) further.

Photo of schinebd
4.35/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - A dark brown/purple/maroon hue. Very opaque with a brownish white head that disappears quickly, but maintains an outer ridge around the edge of the glass.

S - Sour cherries dominate, with undertones of sugar and roasted malt. Occassionally a bourbon whiff spikes through and gives an oaky character to the smell.

T - Very, very sour and tart cherry flavor dominate the first impression, but as the acidic sourness fades, the flavor sinks into a bed of toasty malts, sweet vanilla, and oakiness with some very mild hints of bourbon. As the second wave of flavors pass some of the sourness returns, but the final taste is pure cherry sweetness.

M - Very thick and I was actually surprised at the level of carbonation. While the beer is smooth, the carbonation makes it dry out a bit quick, rushing the flavor a bit.

D - High ABV, very expensive, but oh so delicious.

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Cuvee De Tomme from The Lost Abbey
94 out of 100 based on 1,092 ratings.