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Cuvee De Tomme - The Lost Abbey

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

963 Ratings
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Ratings: 963
Reviews: 389
rAvg: 4.21
pDev: 11.64%
Wants: 638
Gots: 244 | FT: 15
Brewed by:
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California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beers base starts out as "The Mother of all Beers" quadruple. It is then aged in oak barrels with lots of cherries. The cherries and the natural bacteria in the barrels from previous batches give the beer a tart sourness.

(Beer added by: xlperro on 12-14-2006)
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4.5/5  rDev +6.9%

JAHMUR, Nov 15, 2011
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4.5/5  rDev +6.9%

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5/5  rDev +18.8%

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4/5  rDev -5%

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5/5  rDev +18.8%

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4/5  rDev -5%

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4/5  rDev -5%

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5/5  rDev +18.8%

cocoapuph, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of DarthKostrizer
4.1/5  rDev -2.6%

Vintage 2009 Thanks for sharing Nathan! and Ehammond1 for the bottleshare invite

Look: Pours a medium to dark brown with about a 1/4 inch head and ok retention and some spotty lacing

Smell: The nose carries some dark fruits especially raisins, plums and figs. Very very tart nose on this guy as well definitely know its a sour beer based on the nose

Taste: Wow this beer is a palate wrecker. There is a crazy amount of tart sourness upfront and is backed up by again some dark fruit notes

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation.

Overall: This is one of the better sours I have had. I am still not a fan of sours and nor will I ever be at this point but this is a pretty damn good sour

DarthKostrizer, Nov 12, 2011
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3.75/5  rDev -10.9%

2009 vintage poured into Lost Abbey tulip glass.

Appearance: Hazy, deep brown with red hues. Pours minimal off white head. Minimal lacing.

Smell: sour cherries, acidic, red wine vinegar, tart, dark fruit, barnyard funk, earthy.

Taste: sour cherries, tart, red-wine vinegar, acidic, very vinegary (much more so than fresh bottles I've had).

Mouthfeel: full bodied, moderate carbonation, very acidic.

Overall: one of my favorite sours from Lost Abbey. This bottle however was very acidic/vinegary. I don't recommend holding onto these more than a year or so.

phichifiji00, Oct 31, 2011
Photo of dgilks
4.38/5  rDev +4%

Bottle thanks to futura123. Cheers William!

Dark murky brown a small and very short lasted light tan head.

Mild lactic aroma with some light fruitiness and a touch of funk. A hint of caramel. Nicely balanced.

Like a classic Flanders Red Ale this starts off with a fruity, tart kick that backs away to a bit of sweet and sour malt like an Oud Bruin. This is quite unique and very nicely tart with only mild funk. When I search for it, I can even find some of the bourbon barrel character. Nice.

Medium body with moderately-high carbonation. Very good.

Lost Abbey cops a lot of crap but I really enjoyed this. The tart character is very good, the fruitiness adds depth and there is even a bit of sweetness to the malt.

dgilks, Oct 19, 2011
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3.83/5  rDev -9%

Thanks to Masterski for the bottle
375 ML shared with others at tasting party

A-- Poured a deep, murky brown color. First thought was that this is one ugly looking beer. Except for a couple of bubbles this had no carbonation. No lacing, no nothing.

S-- Sour cherry, slight bourbon, vanilla, wood, plum, raisin and very wine like.

T-- Even more wine like I thought. Chocolate, vanilla, bourbon, wood, and slight amounts of cherry. Reminded me more of a solid shiraz than a wild ale really.

M-- Sour cherry finish. Front and mid were more the bourbon and vanilla. Once again very wine like to me. Slick and long lasting flavor. Little to no carbonation to this but with that much complexity it really did not need it. Alcohol was minimal at best.

O-- Ugly looking beer but very good. Not the big bright flavors or sour vinegar that other sours have. Really good beer and really enjoyable.

mulder1010, Oct 16, 2011
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4.06/5  rDev -3.6%

Re-review 27 January 2014. Again it's the 2011 batch.

Same muddy mahogany with nary even a film of saffron head.

Thick chocolate-caramel fudge, balsamic, nail-polish remover, tree bark, dry red wine and rough soily, earthy notes.

Stewed rhubarb, balsamic sour cherries and carob. Body is massively chewy but very little ABV presence. Seems perfect to carry what this beer does. Strong tart-balsamic finish.

Absolutely unique. At times it doesn't seem to mesh but still amazing.

Original October 2011 review
2011 batch. Bottle thanks to mulder1010. Shared at tasting.

Reddish clay brown, with zero carbonation. 3.5

Complex interplay of lactic, fortified and barrel characteristics which dominate at different times, providing a different experience with every sniff or taste. As well as the obvious cherry and raisin notes there's maple, vanilla, pecan pie, stewed plum and rustic barky notes. 4.5 and 4.5

11%? Having had Red Poppy just before, this felt not much thicker. Smooth as you'd expect from zero carb with no ABV burn. 4

Another great Lost Abbey beer that I probably need more than the quarter of the bottle I had to do justice in a review. In particular, the barrel imparts plenty of complexity that takes time to unpack. 4.5

spicelab, Oct 16, 2011
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4.5/5  rDev +6.9%

Thanks to mulder1010

Pours reddish with clearly almost no carbonation.

Nose was all strawberry jam and decadent vanilla oak. Some vinegar but well integrated and hidden. Cherries came across too.

Taste was similarly decadent.

Was very, very low in carb; almost absent, but I didn't even notice while drinking it. The alcohol in this beer was also extremely well concealed- drank much lower than it actually was.

danieelol, Oct 15, 2011
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3.73/5  rDev -11.4%

375ml bottle, 2011 vintage thanks to HopsSchnapps, poured to a Lost Abbey tumbler.

Dark brown with red edges from the cherries. The appearance is the only indication that this was ever a Belgian dark ale. No head or lacing.

Smells of cherries, funk, a bit of malt, candi sugar and slight alcohol. Taste is great. On par with a good kriek. Big sour cherry flavor and very tart on the back of the tongue. Dark fruit, plum, raisin, tanins, oak, slight alcohol. Just a hint of carbonation and full body.

Overall, a very good beer. I've certainly had better american wilds but I really enjoy the cherries in this one, a very nice American interpretation of a kriek.

LSUPT, Oct 13, 2011
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3.85/5  rDev -8.6%

2011 batch. Stored at cellar temp.

A. Pours a dark brown/ black with amber edges when held up to the light. Opened with a tiny fizz; pours with just a wisp of a teeny tiny bubble ring around the fringe.

S. Tons of oakiness with vanilla and tart cherries. Some red wine tannins with ample sweetness. An almost artificial tartness comes out with agitation. I know the base beer should be adding some nice dark fruits, but I can't really find them anywhere.

T. The essence of dark cherry fruit is there, but the tartness is mostly missing while it sits on your tongue. Some chocolate is in the mix. Definite red wine tannins on the back of your tongue. The tartness is actually most apparent in the aftertaste. As it warms some figs come out in the flavor.

M. Very viscous with incredibly low carbonation. This just sits around on your tongue.

D. Very wine-like. I went in expecting a lighter more refreshing offering, which is not what I got. This sits heavy on the palate and demands prolonged attention. It's got a tartness to it, but it's not overly acidic. Those Californians do have a knack for making the most wine-like beers.

I tossed the second half into the freezer to see what the beer is like very chilled. The aroma is much more muddled, but similar with less oak and more cherry. The tartness is more apparent on the tongue, but I think people are mistaking tannins for tartness; they're admittedly much more similar when the beer is very chilled. I like that the beer isn't quite as heavy this way, but overall I prefer this at cellar temp.

BeerAndBourbon, Sep 13, 2011
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4.6/5  rDev +9.3%

Bottle (2009)

(Aged for 2 years)

Thanks for sharing, Nathan!

A murky dark brown, bordering on black, with a very thin light brown head. Leaves spots of lacing down the glass.

An incredibly rich and complex aroma: tart sourness, rich and sweet cherries, earth and wood, some vanilla, and other dark fruits like raisins, prunes, and figs complement the rest of the beer incredibly well.

Sweet cherries are the first thing on the palette, along with a blisteringly tart sourness, Brett funk, along with some mild roast and char, and a warming, complementary wood and vanilla backbone. Exceptional.

Medium bodied with ample carbonation.

One of my favorite beers ever. This was a very good year. I would love to try another 2009 at some point.

ehammond1, Sep 10, 2011
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3.55/5  rDev -15.7%

375 purchased from Whole Foods. Tried this on tap at Sourfest and wasn't impressed, but I'm giving it a second try.

The cork was very unrelenting, but when I finally got it out, there was no pop. Pretty low carbonation, but an aggressive pour gets the bubbles going.

Appearance is a dark brown. Smell is intense of cherries. Very sweet and fragrant. It's making my mouth water.

The taste is decent. The sweetness of the cherries and the raisins is definitely there, but the lack of high carbonation is making this not as enjoyable for me.

Mouthfeel is fine. Considering it's 11%, the beer goes down very smooth.

Overall, I wasn't impressed by this beer once, and again I'm not overly impressed. Framboise de Amarosa and DDG are such outstanding sour ales from Lost Abbey. Not for me, but I'm obviously in the minority.

UnknownKoger, Sep 06, 2011
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4.65/5  rDev +10.5%

750 mL bottle poured into a goblet. Thanks to Ynot2 for this bottle.

Appearance - Deep murky reddish brown body. An aggressive pour yields a good size head, which I suppose I should be grateful for, considering the Lost Abbey reputation.

Smell - Mostly cherries. Tart and a bit of funk to start. Behind the initial tartness is a nice vanilla and slight bourbon flavor. I probably only taste the bourbon since it said bourbon on the label, though. What I do like is how the tartness returns in the finish.

Mouthfeel - Nice carbonation, surprise! I kinda don't like how dry it is in the finish, but such is the loss of drinking sours.

Overall - Delicious beer. I would like more of the original quad to come through, but as a sour it is near perfection.

Alieniloquium, Aug 28, 2011
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4.2/5  rDev -0.2%

2011 bottle.
A-Pours a very hazy dark reddish brown, with an aggressive pour creates a few bubbles that fade quickly.
S- Vinegar, malt, oak, a certain sour aroma
T- Tart fruits, vinegar, cherries, bourbon, vanilla, red wine grapes.
M-Low carbed, medium body.
O-Would drink again.

BdubleEdubleRUN, Aug 21, 2011
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4.38/5  rDev +4%

Big thanks to sweemzander for cracking this one!

2009 small bottle.

(A) Dark ruby, almost brown. No head. Looks flat.

(S) Smells of cherry and sour tartness. Light sugars. Some raisin.

(T) There's a decent amount of raisin in the front of the taste. The raisin blends with cherry to give it some weight. There's a lot of dark fruits and some vinegar. There is a hint of red/dark grape toward the end.

(M) It's pretty flat, but it's forgivable. Very smooth and somewhat oily.

(O) It's a lot like beefed up juice. It's really good but not as tart as I had expected.

cjacobsen, Aug 17, 2011
Cuvee De Tomme from The Lost Abbey
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