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Cuvee De Tomme - The Lost Abbey

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BA SCORE
94
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953 Ratings
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Ratings: 953
Reviews: 389
rAvg: 4.21
pDev: 11.64%
Wants: 636
Gots: 240 | FT: 15
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California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beers base starts out as "The Mother of all Beers" quadruple. It is then aged in oak barrels with lots of cherries. The cherries and the natural bacteria in the barrels from previous batches give the beer a tart sourness.

(Beer added by: xlperro on 12-14-2006)
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badbeer

Iowa

4.13/5  rDev -1.9%

2008 Version, 375mL bottle:
Color is very dark red with a beige colored head that recedes to a ring around the glass. Smell of acetic acid, cherries, caramel, oak, dark fruits, and brown sugar. Taste is sour with cherry pits, maple, bourbon, dark fruit, and caramel sweetness. Medium carbonation with medium body. Good stuff, I look forward to trying it with a bit more age on it.

12-28-2008 01:19:12 | More by badbeer
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LilBeerDoctor

New York

3.53/5  rDev -16.2%

Bottle sampled on 09/26/08 at Night of the Funk. Pours a cloudy brown with a small tan head. Aroma of bourbon and salty butter. Flavor is initially sour with a slight bourbony finish. In general I am not a fan of bourbon-aged beers, but this is definitely one of the better ones (moderation is key!). Pretty decent beer.
7/4/7/4/14 (3.6/5)

12-26-2008 19:30:08 | More by LilBeerDoctor
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srandycarter

California

3.8/5  rDev -9.7%

A - Pours brown/red. Not much head, nor lacing.

S - Cherry Cola. Reminds me of Black Cherry Soda.

T - Big sours cherries is about all I can really discern.

M - Coating, medium body, not much carb.

D - Sours aren't my thing, and I tried to keep wanting to be a sour fan. Oh well, fun to try something different, anyway.

2009 - Even less carb. The last 3 caged corked epic beers I have gotten from LA have been virtually flat. Guess they 'meant to do that' but it's not a big turn on for me.

12-25-2008 05:03:19 | More by srandycarter
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brdc

Wisconsin

2.3/5  rDev -45.4%

2008 release, courtesy of nflmvp.
Small corke bottle poured into a goblet, it produces a nice dark red, hazy beer with a nice head, colored somewhere between tan and pink. retention is good, not great, same can be said for lacing.
The aroma is the best part, fresh and fruity as you pour. Bourbon, oak, vanilla, layers of fruits and even some vinegar in the background.
Medium, nearly full bodied, softly carbonated with predominantly fruity notes, but it does not end there. The grapes, cherries and plums are accompanied by a sourness that is not as pronounced as advertised, oakiness, bourbon heat, tannins, with a finish somewhat dry and tart. The sweetness aspect of it at times gets a bit too much.
An impressive brew, the best Lost Abbey i had so far, but it falls short of spectacular. It is an amazing improvement over its Judgement Day, which I personally consider average at best, but I am still waiting for Lost Abbey to blow me away. I have been disappointed so far, but in this brew it was likely given the very high expectations.

The 2009 release, which reflects the score since it is the one out there, is a disgrace. Flat, uncarbonated, a very expensive drainpour. It unfortunately reflects their total lack of quality control, since it is the 6th different flat beer I have from them.

12-22-2008 18:06:44 | More by brdc
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FtownThrowDown

Ohio

4.85/5  rDev +15.2%

Beachbum1975 saw this as one of my top Wants and cracked it open. Thanks man!
Pours reddish brown in color. No head to be found on the pour. Smell is lots of sour cherry and some woody oak. Incredibly lip puckering and tart. Lots of good sour notes coming through in the flavor. The cherry flavor is perfectly done. Very complimentary to the rest of the beer. Just a hint of alcohol burn in the finish. Fairly thick and coating in the mouth. The cherries, sour and oak work amazingly well together and are incredible. This is a world class beer. One of the few, rare and hyped beers that has lived up to the expectations. Incredible beer.

12-13-2008 19:58:00 | More by FtownThrowDown
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beachbum1975

Ohio

4.1/5  rDev -2.6%

Got this one on a recent trade with numbeercruncher - thanks, man!!! Shared with DrewOSA, pwoods and Ftownthrowdown.

2008 vintage - 375ml

A: Gorgeous bottle and label with cork and black cage. Lost Abbey package is the best - I feel like I am drinking a rare, medieval elixir! Pours a clear, brown with dark red/ruby highlights. Head didn't stick around long enough for me to describe it.

S: Hmmm, sour cherries all over the place! Nose is rich and poignant cherries and sourness. I think some malts are hanging around in the background, but it's hard to tell. It's a sour cherry bomb on the nose.

T: Ok, you might have sit down for the term described for the predominant taste... Ready? SOUR CHERRIES! Ok, now that the shock has passed, let me see if I can pull any other fancy, descriptive words to describe this beers' flavor.... High levels of sour cherries mixed with some sherry and whiskey attributes. This is not a fresh, juicy, or artificial cherry taste, but rather a fermented, alcohol-ized cherry almost hinging on vinegar, but not in a bad way. The flavor of this beer is not complex - as there's not a whole bouquet of things to try and describe, but rather complex in it's hard to describe the primary flavor itself. If that made any sense at all to you, let's move on. If not, read someone else's review!

M: Highly dry with low carbonation, but enjoyable nonetheless - unique. I can definitely feel the presence of wine in this, because of the high degree of driness... VERY unique and enjoyable to me.

Now... would I stalk the ISO threads on BA, monitor ebay auctions, craigslist posts and lost abbey's new sections waiting for the next release? Nahh... I'll save that for the other BA folks ;)

Glad I had the opportunity to try this incredibly unique and rare beer. Thanks again, Matt - you've opened my door to the world of unique, American-made sours (I was going to say "pop by cherry", but it something about that just didn't seem right)!

12-12-2008 16:27:01 | More by beachbum1975
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RblWthACoz

Pennsylvania

4.33/5  rDev +2.9%

2008

Pours a very dark brown you can still see through with an almost non-existent tannish head. Nose is tart cherries with a minor funk. Flavor is funky. Very Flanders-like. Tart cherries on wood. Quite dry. I like the aftertaste of the lactic tones. Definitely get the barrel aged thing going on. Almost a vanilla tone in there. Feel is a bit thicker on liquid and carbonation is lower. This is a pretty hearty beer. I like it, but I think it'd be even better if it mellowed a bit. If you like Flanders style beers, you'll like this one.

Thanks to srroos for this one.

12-12-2008 01:20:51 | More by RblWthACoz
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magictrokini

California

4.33/5  rDev +2.9%

Pours cloudy brown with a nearly tan head. Cherrybomb aroma, with nice oak and bourbon. Taste is heavily cherries, but nice brown sugar, nuts, sour yeast, and alcohol round it out so it is not overwhelming. Good bourbon and cognac flavors come through as it warms. I know it says this is a Strong Ale, but it drinks like a liquer.

12-11-2008 00:20:42 | More by magictrokini
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jjayjaye

New York

3.7/5  rDev -12.1%

Pours a cloudy cola brown with reddish hues with negligible fizzy light tan head and little lacing. The smell is an intense tart cherry vinegar. Another broad interpretation of style; i prefer the dark fruit variety. Adequately carbonated, the mouth feel is light and boldly tart. Full flavored, the tart cherry character is monolithic. The sourness is right on the edge of my personal envelop of tolerance. This one hasn't earned a place in my heart...but if you favor tart..knock yourself out. Disappointingly far from 'center style'...amen to Lew Bryson's words on the matter.

Currently on the Top 100....it's not going to last long on "the list" if you ask me.

12-09-2008 23:41:33 | More by jjayjaye
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drseamus

New York

4.63/5  rDev +10%

2008 Edition, served in my DFH snifter.

A: Deep rich brown with a good red tinge when held to the light. It had a white head initially but disappeared quickly leaving only a rim of foam.

S: The smell is bold and intense. Cherries float out of the glass and a touch of vinegar assaults my nostrils. Behind that a sweet malt lurks in the background.

T: Cherries and tartness right up front followed by a short but intense dryness with a ton of dustiness. I'd guess some Brett is to blame for that. Finish is dry but not nearly as much so as that quick burst. As it warms, the cherries diminish slightly and the tartness and vinegar increase.

M: When held in my mouth, I don't notice much carbonation. When I swallow or swish though, the carbonation causes a light tingling. Very smooth with ZERO evidence of any alcohol. If I had to complain about anything, I would like a touch more carbonation.

D: This isn't good, it's great. The tartness is good but not over the top. Nice balance between fruitiness and tartness.

12-04-2008 03:45:08 | More by drseamus
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egajdzis

Pennsylvania

4.68/5  rDev +11.2%

Multiple samples, tasted fresh, and up to 5 yrs old!

Poured a deep dark brown color with a small tan head and nice lacing on the glass. Funky, sweet caramel, brett, tart apples some roast, cocoa, and pineapples. Roasty and tart taste, more apples, vinous, some strawberries and sweet finish. Fuckin awesome!

11-25-2008 02:33:08 | More by egajdzis
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brentk56

North Carolina

4.55/5  rDev +8.1%

2008 Vintage

Appearance: Pours a burnt caramel color that refuses to raise much of a head, despite an aggressive pour; no lacing

Smell: An extraordinary range of aromas - cherry pits, bourbon/vanilla, raisins, caramel and Brett

Taste: Opens with a caramel and bourbon sweetness that grows increasingly sour as we move into the mid-palate (it becomes almost impossible to let it rest on the tongue) ; after the swallow, the sour flavors fold back to display the fruit, with the cherries and raisins dominant; the sweetness doesn't last, however, and the sour flavors linger on the finish for an extended period

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate to low carbonationl; almost juicy

Drinkability: Just an extraodinary beer, but not something you can drink on a regular basis; definitely meant for sharing

11-25-2008 01:55:14 | More by brentk56
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DrJay

Massachusetts

4.38/5  rDev +4%

2008. Got this one in a trade from todd1. Thanks!
Brown, coppery colour with a thin cap of beige bubbles that formed a thick collar and left a thin skim on top of the beer. Some lacing, not overly sticky. Earthy aroma, tobacco and wood, cherry pits and light bourbon, just a bit of sour cherry. Same in the flavour, but with a mild tartness up front and a hint of acetic acid character in the finish. Very earthy cherry flavour throughout with mild bourbon and vanilla towards the end. Mild caramel and brown sugar, but with a lot of fruity character in the forefront. Fairly acidic, but not overpowering, since there's some sweetness to provide balance. Quite complex, with a lot of wood and funk going on. Medium bodied with soft, creamy carbonation. Some dryness from tannins, mild alcohol warmth. Great stuff and very drinkable. Very nice balance too.

11-23-2008 03:27:33 | More by DrJay
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JoeMayo

Massachusetts

4.38/5  rDev +4%

A- Pours a cloudy dark brown with a light ring of foam around the edge of the glass.

S- Not as intensely sour as I had imagined. Tart cherries, brown sugar and sweet esters come through and then the sourness kicks in a little stronger.

T- Much more sour than the aroma. Brett and cherries come through with hints of brown sugar and mild herbal tones.

M- Very dry, wine-like finish.

D- This one's a sipper, but not at all from the alcohol. I actually am just realizing the high abv on this beer. The sourness isn't incredibly intense, but certainly adds a good kick.

11-12-2008 15:56:18 | More by JoeMayo
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Douglas88

Utah

4.47/5  rDev +6.2%

Bottle generously shard by footbalm. Pours a dark red/brown with a small white head. The aroma is just amazing; bourbon, sweet fruit and tart cherries, vanilla, just tons stuff in here. The taste was surprisingly tart; sour cherries, whiskey and bourbon, some funk and yeast, raisins and more of that full tartness from barrel aged sour cherries. A full and medium thick mouthfeel. A great aftertaste like a amazing dessert. Just great. Sour, but also allowing so many other flavors. Thanks Eric for this gem.

11-11-2008 00:27:41 | More by Douglas88
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grub

Ontario (Canada)

4.43/5  rDev +5.2%

Viggo shared this bottle. thanks eric!

375ml bottle, corked and caged. sampled nov 8/08.

pours deep dark red with a thin ring of fine tan bubbles. drops quickly and leaves a few spots of lace.

aroma is great. malt vinegar. sour cherry. bit of lemon. white bread. cracker. light alcohol. vanilla. raw oak. bit of white wine. white and red grapes.

taste is great. malt vinegar. lots of sour cherry. touch of lemon. vanilla and raw oak. white and red grapes. light caramel sweetness. lots of other fruity stuff going on too. bit of horse blanket. leather. almost no trace of the 12%abv. touch of belgian yeasty spice character too, though nothing specific that i could pick out.

mouthfeel is good. bit of a clinging, lingering sour/funky character on the tongue, but nothing that overpowers. fairly high carbonation level, but fine and well integrated with very little sting. medium body with a somewhat dry finish.

drinkability is great. the alcohol is hidden quite well, and the sour character manages to stay just in check without taking over. great depth to the fruity character. overall, quite a fine beer.

11-09-2008 02:28:50 | More by grub
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Viggo

Ontario (Canada)

4.15/5  rDev -1.4%

Big thanks to oakbluff for sending this one my way!

Pours a hazy dark brownish red, almost burgundy in the corners, thick light tan head forms, drops to a thin ring around the glass, tight bubbles, thin layer, looks real nice. Smell is big, very sour cherries, bread, alcohol, wood, very acidic, lemons, caramel, quite funky, real nice. Taste is very sour, apple juice up front, caramel, lemons/orange peel, sour cherries, quite acidic, bit of funk, lots of alcohol, brown sugar, very woody, pretty intense finish. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with medium to high carbonation, very mouth puckering finish, but very interesting. Thanks Scott!

11-09-2008 02:24:20 | More by Viggo
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tprokop7

Massachusetts

4.2/5  rDev -0.2%

Pours cloudy and reddish brown, without much head. Smells very sour. I know it's supposed to smell like cherries, but even searching for it it's tough to find behind the sourness. Slight astringent taste just as the beer hits your mouth, but it quickly fades to sourness and dark cherries, which are much more prevalent now than in the smell. Some dark plum and blackberry flavors in the finish. Carbonation is balanced, but it is very acidic in the stomach.

11-08-2008 03:41:49 | More by tprokop7
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hopdog

Pennsylvania

4.93/5  rDev +17.1%

Bottle acquired in trade with DarkElf (thanks). Silver foil and labeled CUSU28.

I opened this one up and dedicated it to the birth of my second Daughter Eve.

Poured a darker reddish color with almost no head at all. Ohh the aromas of brett, cherries, and oak with a vinous quality to it. Tastes of dark fruits, brett, wine, and cherries. Nice tart cherry finish.

Alcohol content well hidden. Has a very nice complexity to it.

I've had this a bunch more times and various vintages, and all I can say, is this one has never let me down!

11-04-2008 18:26:53 | More by hopdog
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waltonc

Colorado

3.9/5  rDev -7.4%

Bottle purchased at Toronado last August.

A: Murky brown with minimal head. There are a few strings of bubbles cruising around in this swamp-like brew.

S: Brett, sour cherries.

T: Brett and sour cherries, very dark fruit, maybe a little hint of burntness, tart, bitter, oak. Fairly dry. Very interesting flavors. I've definitely never tasted anything like it.

M: Fairly thick, with light-medium carbonation.

D: A beer to be sipped, though not in your face gigantic flavors. I could chug this if I had to. But I'd rather enjoy it. I appreciate the effort to create an interesting, unusual beer.

10-28-2008 04:04:26 | More by waltonc
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ArrogantB

Colorado

3.8/5  rDev -9.7%

375ml 2007 bottle. Thanks a bunch to numbeercruncher for sending this my way. The first sniff was cherries and I expected something akin to supplication but as I poured this into my snifter I quickly realized that this is a totally different animal. Dark brown with red tints. It has a hint of cherry in the smell but there is a lot of barrel going on here, wood, whiskey. The taste is more bourbon barrel, wood, slightly sour interesting mix of flavors. Overall this was interesting but not something I will seek out again. The bourbon flavors are good but don't seem to match up with the sour flavors and really start to wear on me after a while, I wonder what this beer would be like if they had only used wine barrels....

10-19-2008 01:08:21 | More by ArrogantB
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abfraser

California

3.98/5  rDev -5.5%

2008 Vintage

A: Dark, dark red, almost black. Pours with very little carbonation almost like a soda that's been sitting out for awhile, which doesn't make for a particularly beautiful beer

S: Tart, alcohol soaked cherries, with faint nice sweet caramel malt aroma

T/M: Whoa. Tart dark chocolate cherries, a strange combination. Super tart. Definitely a bit musky from the Brett but nothing overpowering. Raisins. The earthiness goes well with the sour but a little out of whack with the dark fruit. This is definitely a sour over a quad. Mouthfeel is lacking in carbonation but very full-bodied. The taste lingers and lingers. This is crazy stuff, and I'm not quite convinced its in a good way.

D: Absolutely positively a sipper to be consumed over the course of 30+ minutes to let everything come out. It's absurdly difficult to get this beer (too much so), which clearly makes it a few and far between special occasion

A very complex, different beer. Was expecting the quad to come through a bit more, but still quite commendable. I still don't get the lack of carbonation I've had recently in a lot of Lost Abbey beers. This would be that much better with some. Overall, clearly one to get but a little less than I was expecting (maybe its the utter scarcity?). I've got a couple more bottles; we'll see how this one ages.

10-18-2008 05:08:48 | More by abfraser
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Kegatron

Pennsylvania

4.53/5  rDev +7.6%

375 ml corked & caged bottle into a tulip glass.

Pours a deep dark brown (with some ruby highlights coming out around the bottom) with a ½ finger of burnt tan head that fizzles down pretty quickly and continues to pop and fizzle for a good bit. This looks just like cola being poured into a glass. Very interesting. There isn't too much to the retention beyond some good flare up around the edges that stay firm, leaving some nice cascading lace behind. The aroma starts with a whiff of crisp Brett right off the bat, mixed in with a waft of cherry tartness that makes for quite the lovely tandem. Additional supportive notes of oak and vanilla lie underneath, as does just a touch of alcohol beefiness.

The taste is a beautiful marriage of Brett sourness and tart cherry character that forms a lip-puckering mix that zings the mouth. Fortunately, the Brett pulls back at just the right moment before becoming overly sour or distracting from the other flavors. Underneath, there are silky notes of caramel, chocolate, dark fruits, vanilla, spice, and an woody wet tobacco presence that offers support and balance for all of that tartness. The mouthfeel is full bodied with a thick feel up front but then smoothes out into a more moderate carbonation and a slick feel that glides across the palette. The alcohol is barely detectable and only makes itself known with a slight boozy feel on the breath.

Wow! This really was a pleasure to sit down and sip at. A fantastic marriage of Brett, cherries, Quad character, and oak aging that drinks incredibly well for it's size. Another outstanding offering from the Lost Abbey.

10-10-2008 18:53:38 | More by Kegatron
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ATLbeerDog

Georgia

4.38/5  rDev +4%

Pours a dark brownish/raspberry color with no head whatsoever. Beautiful smells of tarty, sour fruits with pears, cherries, and raisins. First taste is sweet, tarty and sour with cherries, raisins, green apples, and grapes all meshing into wonderful full sensory experience. Damn this is good. A tad more carbonation, please? - Complex yet mellow. Loud but quiet.

10-02-2008 23:08:12 | More by ATLbeerDog
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Billolick

New York

4.8/5  rDev +14%

Small bottle, pours very dark amber, dangerous at 12%, long lasting dark tan head, rich nose of dark malts, wood, dark fruits and cherries. Rich, complex and viscous on the tongue. Cherries, wood, bourbon, more dark fruit, moderate sour permeating the mixture and adding more interest and somehow more complexity. World class creation. Night capper, dessert beer supreme. Please send this to NYC/CT/NJ/Mass sometime soon

09-30-2008 14:43:23 | More by Billolick
Cuvee De Tomme from The Lost Abbey
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