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Cuvee De Tomme - The Lost Abbey

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Ratings: 1,068
Reviews: 404
rAvg: 4.21
pDev: 11.16%
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California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: jcalabre on 06-14-2003

Once upon a time it was the most award winning Pizza Port beer of all time. Now it has found a new home at The Lost Abbey.

A massive brown ale base that is made from four fermentable sugars including Malted Barley, Raisins, Candi Sugar and Sour Cherries, this beer is fully fermented before being placed in Bourbon barrels where the beer ages for one year with the Sour Cherries and the wild Brettanomyces yeast that we inoculate the barrels with.
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Photo of Halcyondays
4.27/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

From a 750 mL bottle, great label with the alchemist HQ type look and the Dali clocks,

A: Pours a reddish mahogany with a very light smattering of bubbles, nice colour.

S: Tart cherries, vinegar, oak.

T: Quite oaky and woody with prevalant acidity initially. The back end of the beer comes with a beautiful dark chocolate covered cherry note which I greatly enjoyed.

M: Moderate acidity gives it a good body even the carbonation is nil. Quite smooth and refreshing for 11%.

D: This beer is very easy to drink for its ABV and has fantastic flavours. Do I think it's worth $30, no, but if it was half the price I'd be all over a couple bottles.

Photo of nomomentwasted
4.53/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had this tonight with a good friend from a 750ml bottle into a chalice. Served cool, and away we go.

Appearance: Awesome hues of orange-red with a light head of just a little top-carbonation that laces brilliantly down the side. No lie: there was a cherry in my glass as well. Suspended matter was definitely present and the cherry is a nice reminder of the ingredients that make this beer what it is.

Smell: Very Wine-like, with a cherry profile that masks some of the bourbon-y, vanilla undertones. Complex smell, but not earth-shattering.

Taste: Really, really brilliant. Like the smell, but in a tart fashion with a puckering goodness. Cherries are definitely upfront, with the wine-like characteristics in play. Tartness is powerful and puckering, lasts throughout the drink.

Mouthfeel: Much like champagne, dry and crisp to finish. Tartness can really wax afterwards even, and the last sips were indicative of that powerful bite.

Drinkability: As with sours of late, I could really drink these all night. This 11% warmed as it went, but so, so drinkable. I couldn't have done the whole 750 by myself due to the sneaky ABV, but I certainly could have taste-wise. Fantastic beer that I couldn't get enough of, if only it weren't 30 bucks a bottle. This and the Duck Duck Gooze from Lost Abbey have me hooked on the tart sours, and I couldn't be more excited about the horizon of sours to come.

Photo of rpstevens
4.44/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Overlord for this bottle. Poured into a dogfish head signature glass.

The color is a murky red/brown that fades to ruby and glows around the edges. There is not much of a head and the beer doesn't leave much of a lacing, just a speckled ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass that fade fairly quickly.

The smell is a blast of sour, sour cherries when you put your nose to the glass, impressively strong. Below the cherries there is just some barrel scent along with a slight hint of raisins and brown sugar sweetness.

The taste is just like the smell, sour and very ripe cherries blast the taste buds, followed by some oak to mellow (I use the term mellow loosely, this is a blast of sour flavor) and then some raisin sweetness. Right in the middle there's some lemon citrus that is strong but quickly blasted away by the final wave of sour cherry.

After the pour and my nervousness about the Lost Abbey carbonation issues I was worried that the mouthfeel would be disappointing, but that is just not the case. The beer is pleasantly carbonated enough to balance the intense sour cherry flavor and the dry finish is incredibly palatable and refreshing. The 11% abv is hard to detect, aside from a slight (but very pleasant) warming of the belly after a few sips. This is a beer that I will definitely pursue in the future, and a great introduction to Lost Abbey.

Photo of Sean9689
4.37/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2008 375ml bottle into DFH snifter.
A nice pop, which is a good start.

A - Pours brown with a reddish hue. More brown toward the bottom of the glass but more red towards the top. A good amount of cream colored head and lots of fizzy bubbles, almost champagne-like. A very small amount of lacing, just a very thin ring around the glass that leaves a hint.

S - A huge nose on this one. You can smell the tart/sour of this beer across the room. Lots of oak, tart fruitiness such as sour cherries or sour grapes. Not a huge amount of complexity going on here, but it's amped up so much it makes for a great experience.

T - Sour cherries right off the bat mixed with a nice mellow oaky flavor that has a kick of alcohol (but nothing that would lead me to believe it's 11%). Drinks very similar to a wine...lots of flavors up front with a smooth oak & alcohol finish.

M - Light to medium bodied with good carbonation. No problems at all from my bottle, just right. I think some people expect so much carbonation, it just pours over, but with this style, it's just not the case. Very smooth, refreshing, and clean.

D - So easy to drink for 11%, it's just dangerous. If I wanted a nice Pinot Noir or Cab and had a bottle of this laying around, I'd have to do a coin toss to pick what I'd like to drink. CdT or a Napa Cab/Russian River Pinot...it's that good.

Photo of TexIndy
2.9/5  rDev -31.1%
look: 1.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

2009 edition. Poured from a corked and caged 750ml bottle into my Duvel snifter. It opened with the bare minimum of sound. No pop or anything. Just the sound of the cork rubbing the bottle on the way out. Fuck! I had even stored warm for several weeks to help with the infamous LA carbonation issues but to no avail. Was black in color even against the light. It poured with absolutely no head or foam or bubbles at all. Even the laser etching in the Duvel glass which usually creates massive carb streams did nothing for this one. Completely devoid of carbonation.

The aroma was oaky vanilla, sour cherries, brett and sweet. Not bad but I found the oak to be way too strong. Was hoping for more of the the cherry and brett to shine. The taste was painfully oaky. Extremely tart with again the cherry and brett not balanced enough with the oak. This just got worse as I continued and it built up on the tongue. Mouthfeel is hurt by no carb and overly oaked.

Overall, a mess and again a major disappointment from LA. I've stopped buying them till they get their shit together. The last couple I've got free from a buddy otherwise I wouldn't get them right now. Still have the Brandy Angel Share to try and that one is supposed to be bad on carb as well. Hope they turn it around soon. Don't recommend due to the price and the carb issues. One and done for me.

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Photo of OlieIPA
4.19/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 2009 375ml bottle into a brandy snifter.

A: Was thinking about pouring this beer into an aerator and decanter, but once I heard a more than adequate pop (when releasing the cork), I decided to pour straight into my snifter. Once this beer settled into my glass, a bold brownish hue with a hint of burgundy was evident throughout the whole glass. Unfortunately, the lack of head left almost no lacing...but I have come to expect this with this style of ale.

S: A lot of sour cherry, raisin, and oak were prominent in the aroma. The smell also indicated a wine-like presence, with it's deep and sometimes uncanny similarity aroma of a cabernet sauvignon or merlot...had that feel. And yeah...the sour gummy beer aroma was there as well. A lot of things are going on in the aroma.

T: The first taste is very mild...but then turns into a very vided flavor of both very dark sour-flavored candies and red wine. It's crazy...not incredible...but very interesting. Dark cherries and raisins mixed in with nuances of both Wine and American Wild Ale tastes. The thing that impressed me the most was the ability this beer had in hiding the high alcohol content...if I didn't read the label, I would think it was 5-7% ABV.

M: More full-body than what I expected...which made this brew very unique. Carbonation was nice...not overbearing like other lambic/AWA I have had.

D: Very deceptive. High ABV that was almost undetectable, with a flavor profile all over the place. Very enjoyable.

Overall: One of Lost Abbey's better beers. Cheers!

Photo of jamie2dope
4.35/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I scored a few bottles of this from tproko07, thanks for the chance! Pours a dark red color, without much head. In the nose is dark fruit, vinegar, Sour nose of sour fruit....very nice. Taste is medicinal at first, then becomes fruity, leaving ona mix of the two. Mouthfeel is between light and medium, and very drinkable. Overall, this is a very savory Wild beer. I only wise LA would release a year round sour beer. Either way, seek this one out. Cheers.

Photo of Tdizzle
4.37/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle purchased at Tustin Whole Foods. Poured into a New Belgium globe glass.

A- Cuvee de Tomme pours an opaque reddish-brown color with amber hues when held up to light. An aggressive pours yields only a bubbly ring along the inside of the glass and a thin, silky film that swirls atop the beer. A few spots of lacing appear at random after each sip.

S- Tart, juicy dark cherries and sour wild yeast with pronounced notes of oak barrel. Accents of vanilla and bourbon rest underneath all the vinous characteristics. The dark base of this beer is evident as notes of molasses and syrupy dark fruits such as raisins, dates, and figs come to the surface. The high alcohol content provides some heat as the beer warms.

T- A strong fruity sourness gives way to flavors of woody oak barrel mixed with notes of dark fruits and a bit of vanilla. The dark fruitiness provides a great contrast to the puckering tartness. The 11% alcohol is remarkably well-hidden. A slight warming sensation shows up as I finish my first half-glass.

M- The liquid feels thick and borders on being syrupy. The carbonation is very mild, which I was expecting based on the lack of bubbles from the pour. I anticipated a more lively mouthfeel though.

D- The drinkability factor is very high given the richness of the flavor coupled with a high ABV. I found that I had to pace myself with this one.

Photo of ffejherb
4.09/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Corby112 for breaking this out at the Liquid Sunshine Reserva release at Bullfrog Brewery.

A - Poured a deep, earthy reddish brown body with a very thin beige ring around the rim of the glass. Virtually no head or lacing to report.

S - Initial aroma reeks of tart, sour cherries, oak and funky Brett notes.

T - Extremely sour cherry character with a dominating tart quality. Lots of wild yeast and Brett-infused funkiness, which works quite nicely with the cherry, even if it is a bit over-the-top.

M - Medium bodied with a syrupy texture. Finishes with a huge sour pucker factor with just a bit of sweetness and some alcohol warmth on the palate.

D - You'd better like cherries, because this is a bucket of the most sour, tart cherries you'll ever have! With that said, the cherries work nicely with the Brett and oaky notes here. While it's not overly complex, this is definitely a tasty cherry-infused wild ale.

Photo of Bitterbill
4.62/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2009 edition, 375ml bottle.

A soft pop upon opening, it pours a very dark reddish brown with a fine layer of foam that shrinks quickly to a ring around the glass.

The smell has oodles of cherry tartness up front followed by some vanilla and a touch of oak.

The taste greets me again with a bucketload of cherry sourness and I'm reveling in that right now. Mmmm. Ok, vanilla notes are popping up as is an oakie woodsie flavour and more cherries...I can't help but believe that this is another brew that a wine drinker would have no problem enjoying. Oh yeah, the 11%abv gives me just a touch of warming after the swallow. No sign of it in the taste at all. Wow.

The mouthfeel is on the heavy side of light and the carbonation is light but I notice a slight tingle on my tongue before swallowing.

Drinkability? I'd have no problem finishing a 750 never mind this 375! This *is* a top notch brew and I'm very happy I made the commitment to get some. *Very* happy!

Photo of treyrab
4.09/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to the trader that hooked me up with this one! Vintage 2008, 12.7oz corked and caged LA bottle. Poured into a tulip style glass.

A: Pours a muddy, crimson red with a small skim of head. Seems pretty lifeless for the style that I was expecting. Completely opaque from the haze with much yeast sediment floating around. Yeast sediment sits atop the small head.

S: Hysterically vinous with red wine notes. Tons of sour cherry juice that smell very fresh, and again, sour. Nice tart lemon notes as well followed by some hay and much funk.

T: Again, very vinous. Over the top red wine characteristics and pretty damn sour. The wild yeast is dominating and bludgeoning anything and everything in its path. Tons of lemon, slight cheese funk, and sour cherries.

Overall, a pretty solid beer. Lacking a touch of complexity I thought, but worth a try for sure.

Photo of mcallister
4.5/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Fantastic looking beer chestnut in color with a full tannish head fading into a frothy topper leaving a thin residue of lacing around the tulip.

Nose is something else on this. Cherry, bourbon, oak, dried fruits of fig and prune, with hints of cocoa bean and vanilla. Very complex nose mmm.

Amazingly complex brew here. Very tart with cherry and wild yeasts. Finish is dry with hints of acidity and thick wood tannins. Bourbon shows through on the middle with fig, prune, black cherry, hints of cocoa, candied licorice, a bit of alcohol and thick oak on the finish. Carbonation level is spot on for this brew and really lets the beers flavors show forth. This is an amazing beer.

Photo of mjl21
4.39/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2009 release. 375 ml bottle poured into a Chimay goblet. Comes in at 11%.

A-Even before pouring the beer, it is worth mentioning that when the cork was pulled I was greeted by a minimal pop sound. Pours a murky, dark brown with some reddish hue. There is not much of a ring once it has been poured into the glass; the ring is comprised of a few miniscule bubbles hugging to a portion of the glass. There is also a tiny fraction of film left after pouring. There are occasional bubbles that rise from the bottom. It doesn't look completely flat, but it looks to be on its last legs.

S-After removing the cork, my nose is greeted by sour cherries. This smell is also quite evident once the contents of the bottle have been poured into the glass. I pick up on notes of bourbon and vanilla. As it warms the raisins and other stone fruit smells from the JD base beer become apparent. As it rests in the glass and warms more, it reminds me of a big red Cabernet.

T-The sour cherries hit very fast. In the middle the bourbon and vanilla flavors provide a really nice level of sweetness that cuts out some of the sour flavor. On the finish, there is a definite puckering tartness, but it is by no means tart overkill. The bourbon also can be detected in between sips. After the beer has been in the glass for awhile, I begin to find that the raisins and sweet stone fruit from the base beer push the sourness level back at the beginning of each sip. It is not boozy tasting.

M-It is on the lighter end of the medium spectrum. The almost complete lack of carbonation surprisingly works well for this beer. A lot of this has to do with the fact that the sourness does a good job of hitting the taste buds on the tongue which helps stimulate the mouthfeel. It has a very dry finish.

D-This is truly a unique beer and is definitely one to sip and savor. There is a ton going on in both its aroma and taste. Its sourness and 11% does limit its drinkability. I felt the 375 ml was the perfect serving size.

Having read so much about this beer, I was glad to finally try it. I do feel the carbonation was not an issue with this one. I would love to try this one with some age on it to see what happens.

Photo of clvand0
4.6/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2008 Vintage. .375L corked bottle. Love the label.

Pours a light red color with a small head that fades quickly and doesn't leave any lacing on the glass. The carbonation seems very light. The aroma is excellent. Raisins, dark fruit - cherries, some tartness, and a touch of wood. The flavor is much more than the aroma led me to believe. Lots of dark fruit flavors meld together with a decent malt profile and cherries with a touch of wood. Extremely tasty. The mouthfeel is moderate as some of the sweetness sticks to the tongue. The drinkability is wonderful - the alcohol was a total surprise when I glanced at the bottle and saw it was over 10%! Fantastic.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.33/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2008 vintage. Black cherry with beautiful scarlet highlights when the snifter is held up to my sunlit front window. A lovely crown of light brown sugar colored foam is waaay ahead of the game in terms of texture, given the ABV and the barrel aging. A bloody good look.

Considering everything that's going on here, the nose is a something of a disappointment (relative to expectations). The BSDA/quadrupel contributes, as do the sour cherries. The bourbon barrels and the wild yeast... not so much. Then again, there's probably a limit to how many distinct aromas can be present in any one beer. Note: raisins soaked in tawny port appear with warming.

The flavor profile is just about as complex as they come. While I might not have been able to identify each of the beer's major contributors, each is easily appreciated once you know they're there. Thankfully, they hit the taste buds at successive points throughout the mouthful.

First is a big blast of tart cherry juice that lessens from start to finish, but never completely disappears. Next comes the Brettanomyces funk and the ripe dark fruitiness of Judgment Day, which is this beer's base beer. Finally, on the impossibly long finish, we have subtle notes of oak and vanilla.

It's strictly personal preference, but I would have eased off the cherries just a bit and would have added more bourbon barrel character. That isn't a complaint, though, because this is fantastic beer that is a joy to sip and savor. The 12.0% ABV drinks more like 8.0%, which is a mighty impressive feat.

The mouthfeel is almost worthy of the next highest score, but I'd need either more fullness or more creaminess to get there. The bubbles are slightly harsh initially, then settle down a few ounces in. It's heartening to see that these guys haven't always had issues with carbonation.

It takes balls (and a big ego) to name a beer Cuvee De Tomme, but if you can back it up... This style-busting, dizzyingly complex ale is yet one more reason why The Lost Abbey is on my list of top-10 favorite American craft breweries. If they keep pushing the envelope and pay attention to quality control, they should be there for a long time to come.

Photo of Arbitrator
3.86/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

On-tap (killed the keg) at Toronado SF on 6/13/2009.

A: Poured a dark ruby color with an inch of fluffy caramel-colored head. It had long-lasting retention and left huge gobs of foam down the sides of the glass.

S: Oak, sour red cherries, some red wine / grape character, molasses, and very light bourbon/vanilla.

T: Huge sour red cherry flavor (my girlfriend commented that this tastes like cherry juice gone bad). It was definitely sour, but not totally vinegary, as the oak and molasses flavor pull it back out into a fairly rounded profile. There is a red-wine like flavor with very light hints of bourbon and vanilla near the end of the swig. Has a dry finish.

M: Light-to-medium bodied, moderate carbonation (maybe a little high, and yes, I do feel weird saying that about a Lost Abbey brew), dry finish. Definitely a sipper, but it doesn't get syrupy and start to coat the tongue, so it's very drinkable.

D: My only complaint is how expensive it is. I refused to buy a bottle because I've had some issues with flat beers from Lost Abbey, and I didn't want to take the risk again. But on-tap it's quite good, and I'd definitely have it again if I saw it.

Photo of GClarkage
4.94/5  rDev +17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

06/07/09- Shard at a tasting with friends.

Presentation- 375ml bottle, bottled in eartly 2008. Caged and corked bottle poured into my Orval chalice.

Appearance- Pale ruby red in color. Ligher rose water colored head with slight watery lace trails left behind.

Smell- Fresh boquet of cherries, some tart aromas via the fruit as well as some oak barrel notes.

Taste- Cherries and more cherries. Freshly picked and straight to the beer. Pretty sour, but not quite pucker territory. Light sugary notes as well as a pleasant oak barrel flavor.

Mouthfeel- Thicker than exprected. Not quite viscous but lightly syrupy...pretty much the perfect mouthfeel with lower carbonation.

Drinkability- Right up there with the best wild ales I have had. Incredible drinking beer worth seeking out.

Photo of Ineedabeerhere
4.62/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Part of the 6.13 epic tasting. From notes. I think that I liked this one a lot more than most. 2008 375mL bottle.

Coca-cola appearance. Thin film forms on top. One of the most complex aromas I've come across. The layers are incredible. Bourbon, vanilla, caramel, cherries, raisins, vinous notes, a slight nuttiness, oak, vinegar. The best thing is that not one of the flavors overpowers another. Some of the beers with bourbon components are so blatantly overpowering, but this was far from the case here. Lightly carbonated. Great mouthfeel, alcohol is barely noticeable for its ABV. Some tartness is present but there is just so much going on here that no one flavor dominates throughout. A vanilla-bourbon sweetness marries with the alcohol to help conceal it. Very glad that I was able to stock up on the 2009 batch- I will be enjoying this beer for years to come.

Photo of kasper
4.26/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2009 375ml bottle

A: Pours a murky chestnut brown with amber highlights near the edges. Bottle gave a muted "pop" but not going on with the bubblies; doesn't offer more than a ring and a few swirls of carmel-colored head.

S: Lots of oak, sour red grapes and cherries, bit of vanilla in the background. Smells like a strong Oud Bruin. Acidity is imposing, but sweet and tart with hints of dried cranberries.

T: Fairly vinous and tart, with flavors of grape skin, vinegar, cherries; acidity hits in the throat but is gentle; the finish is coated in oak and pleasantly dry with some lingering acidity.

M: Similar in consistency to white wine. Not much carbonation but the acidity carries each sip.

D: For what this is, it's very well done. The tartness masks a good slice of that 12% ABV. There's complexity but balance, which makes it a great sipper. If anything, it's heavy on dry, woody characteristics and I don't mind that. Def wish I would have grabbed another bottle or two.

Photo of slayer3604
4.89/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2009 vintage from Red Carpet in Glendale, CA

a- OH NO! have i been hit with another non-carbonated 30 dollar bottle of LA beer!? The first reaction i had almost resulted in a berserker head-butt to the wall, but then i noticed a great deal of bubbles clinging to the side of the glass...the initial pour hadn't stirred more than a millimeter of head, to which it settled to a very tiny white bubbled rim on the outside of the glass, so i was fearing the worst.
The beer has a murky maroon/yellow appearance. the yellow occurring towards the outer rim of the glass, when tilted and held against the light.

S- chocolate, rum, HUGE tart cherries, a blast of dark raisin, cherry cola, and fig!!!

T- very smooth especially for 11%, lots of raisin, some acidic acid, almost tannic bight, with cherries that are a week away from being ripe! very dark feeling on the palate, with an unfiltered quality, coupled by great craftsmanship.

M- velvet. because of the lack of effervescent carbonation, this beer is free to be as smooth as it can be. has a lingering semi dry, tart and fruity finish. very classy.

D- If this bottle was available year round i'd pick it up every month even at 30 bucks. Terribly smooth for what it packs, and im pretty light headed now! good night!

Photo of flannelman808
4/5  rDev -5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle of the new Cuvee De Tomme 2009 By the Lost Abby. But the bottle looks different than the one pictured above.

I am very excited about this beer but...

Im worried it has been oxidized or is lacking priming sugar or something. I poured this beer vigorously into my Duvel tulip. The pour is a murky dark brown/cola syrup color. There is little or NO head on it I guess the alcohol is killing the head? Looks like a flat glass of coca cola.

Ok not worried anymore.... taking my time with this beer...I digress. The aroma is amazing... strong sour cherry with honey, oak and molasses. Giving this beer some air appears to help. I almost wish I decanted it or something!

Flavors of very sour cherry, wood as well but not very much... I really miss effervescence. Sour flavors overwhelm but I sense this is a time issue. Perhaps with several years of age this will become more balanced. My only hang up is the lack of effing carbonization. Maybe this is all due to bottle variance. Aging will only help.

Mouthfeel is my major issue with this because its just not there. I have never felt that mouthfeel could change a beer so much. Some foam would really help break up the sour and the complex. Aging may do to same thing and maybe that's the intent, but if so how about you write that on the effing label.

pretty drinkable all things considered, that is if your into very sour liquid.

Photo of SPLITGRIN
4.74/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Carbonation sticks to the side of the glass but barely shows up on the head as just a skim of graham cracker colored lace. Body is a deep murky root beer brown in color. Nose is very bright and luscious with tones of barely ripe cherries, vanilla, cola, acidic vinegar tartness and ripe dark fruit. Mouth really wasn't ready for this attack of sour on the tongue. Tartness is very acidic and borders on vinegary with definite cherry tones. The fruits from the dark ale are truely there surrounded by all the tartness. Dark fruits play more of a role as the beer warms developing red wine like tannins. Serve this one on the warmer side. Mouthfeel is lovely with nice tannins and tart dark fruit. Drinkability is so good that I really never wanted this one to end.

Photo of ibbjamin
4.64/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Paid $29.99 for a 12.7 oz bottle from Perry's Liquor in Livermore, CA. Poured into a snifter glass to review. The 2008 vintage has an 11.0% ABV according to the label. Well the 2009 vintage is being distributed this month, so I have to estimate that this beer was bottled just over a year ago.

Leaves a quarter inch head after an untilted pour. Head dissipates quickly, leaving only small traces of retention bubbles. Opaque dark brown color with some ruby hints when held to a bright light. Minimal carbonation. Almost no lacing.

Smells quite special. Dark fermented cherries, vanilla, red licorice and hints of aged oak wood. I'm waiting for the right temperature on this one to take my first sip. The aging in oak becomes more evident as it approaches 58°F. Alcoholic in the nose, similar to a fine red wine. Cherries do have a mild sour smell which I know will become even more sour in the taste.

Taste is of nice sour cherries, aged oak and vanilla. The licorice that I originally smelled faded as it warmed and is not present in the taste. A bit of funk in this one, but not over the top.

Mouth is on the dry side with some astringency from the tannins. Unnoticeable medium body. Minimal carbonation. As I get closer to finishing, the dryness becomes more evident. The mouth on this beer is the closest to red wine that I have ever tasted. This is not your everyday beer, definitely a sipper, yet I enjoyed every last sip and had no problems finishing.

This is the kind of beer that a wine snob that is anti-beer would appreciate. Many of the characteristics of Red Poppy are present in the Cuvee but I must say I like this better. Maybe a bit more sour, not as musty, less dry and astringent, not aged as long in oak barrels, smoother and more drinkable. I certainly am glad I tried it, but at $29.99, I paid a bit much and would not go seeking this out again at that price level. My review is not taking price into consideration. Throw style out the window on this one - nothing like a Belgian Strong Dark, actually I'd say it is a wild/sour/flanders combination of sorts. Wow Lost Abbey, I am impressed.

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4.04/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2008

A - Dirty raisin color with a quick soda like rush of bubbles and a thin tan head that quickly disappears and leaves little signs of carbonation left behind.

S - Slightly funky, musty and earthy with sweet brown sugar and a fresh tart cherry aroma. Green apple and raisin.

T - Tart cherry and green apple, slightly acidic with a touch of spicy yeast, wet oak, raisins and a very vinous, dry red wine like finish that lingers after each sip.

M - Medium body with little carbonation and very dry in strong red wine like way.

D - The abv is completely hidden. Interesting but doesn't really blend together as well as I would like.

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3.93/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle, labeled as Lost Abbey (not Pizza Port) Cuvee de Tomme. Tomme, you arrogant bastard (not the beer) naming this after yourself! Just kidding, you know we love you.

A - Excellent dark reddish-brown color with a tan head.

S - Dark fruits, oak, and tartness/wildness.

T - Complex with sour cherries, figs, raisins, vanilla, oak, and sourness that isn't too intense. Strong vinous notes. Mild sweetness present as well to balance.

M - Sharp palate with medium carbonation and fairly full body.

D - Well, not very drinkable, so this scores a little higher on RB than BA. Great beer overall though!

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Cuvee De Tomme from The Lost Abbey
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