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Veritas 001 - The Lost Abbey

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BA SCORE
91
outstanding

39 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 39
Reviews: 26
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 12.26%
Wants: 117
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: ggaughan on 02-08-2007)
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5/5  rDev +20.2%

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3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

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3.25/5  rDev -21.9%

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4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

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4/5  rDev -3.8%

jbuddle, Apr 25, 2013
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3.25/5  rDev -21.9%

joel66, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of BucketBoy
3.53/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Opens pretty flat, tart cherry touching on balsamic, light balsamic vinegar and a touch strawberry vinegar both in the nose and flavor. It's completely flat, gross brown color. As expected, a bit oxidize but not terribly. This is decent but nothing special - slightly Flanders-y, maybe Flanders light. The mead is almost completely lost, with a soft honey aftertaste that is its only sign. Tastes great on the novelty, really rarity. I am very thankful for the experience, Joel and Tomme.

BucketBoy, Apr 20, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

GRG1313, Jan 29, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

yourefragile, Jan 16, 2013
Photo of mdfb79
4.43/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From 04/14/12 notes. Thanks to Thorep420 for sharing this one at the DC Lambic & Sour Tasting as part of a full Veritas set, 001-010.

a - Pours a murky dark brown color with no head or carbonation evident. Looks pretty average.

s - Smells of sour cherries and dark fruits, oak, fruity malts, light wine. Very nice nose; not overly sour but enough and it's certainly enjoyable.

t - Tastes of of sour cherries, bourbon, tart dark fruits, oak, fruity malts, toasted malts. Taste is not as sour as the nose but I like it quite a bit.

m - Medium body and no carbonation. Very smooth and easy to drink. A little carbonation and this would have been perfect.

o - Overall a great sour fro Lost Abbey; After 006, 004, and 007 this is probably my favorite one. Nice sour dark fruits in the nose and bourbon in the taste...worth seeking out still.

mdfb79, Apr 24, 2012
Photo of Huhzubendah
4.43/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Original review: November 10, 2010

I am over the moon right now. This beer was on my never ever list. Well...never say never. Thanks Damian and Lona.

This beer is a hazy dark burnt brown hue. The head and lacing are very subdued, typical of an aged sour ale in most cases. The aroma is of wine, tannins, and oak. Fabulous taste. The feel is still nice, though the beer is slightly under-carbonated. I am in total disbelief that I an actually drinking this. Does drinkability really factor into the equation when discussing Veritas 001? This put a nice final touch on a great night.

"My first, my last, my everything" - Barry White.

****
Somehow, I managed to sample this beer again. Thanks to Thorpe429 for the share.

Consumed with all ten Veritas beers on April 14, 2012.

Wow, this has held up well. Even better than the first time I tried it. I am really surprised that this beer is still tasting so fine. Rich, vinous, tannic, complex, balanced. A delightful experience.

Huhzubendah, Apr 20, 2012
Photo of drabmuh
4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Shared by Thorpe in our Veritas line-up, all 10 Veritas beers available at the time of this review. I expected this one to be horrible but instead I was pleasantly surprised. Beer served in a Lost Abbey Teku glass. You would too if you could.

Beer is brownish / red with a lazy off whtie head of small bubbles, no lacing, low retention, moderate carbonation. Looks fine.

Aroma is mildly funky mildly sweet. Interesting but a weak aroma. Oak and berries with hints of some odd spice. Smells good.

Beer is mildly sweet with a tartish finish. I'm not going to say it was sour, light in body, nice oak, red wine / fruit / vinous quality, a nice finish. This was surprisingly good. I'd even have it again.

drabmuh, Apr 19, 2012
Photo of Thorpe429
4.48/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle at the DC Lambic & Sour Tasting on April 14, 2012 as part of a full Veritas set, 001-010. Served in a Lost Abbey Teku.

Pours a somewhat-cloudy amber-red color with a small off-white head that fades a bit quickly before falling to a collar and leaving a touch of lacing.

The nose has some red grapes alongside port notes plus some red wine and wood. Quite complex; way more than I was expecting here.

The flavor is equally as nice with a heavy-handed length on the palate. Moderate acidity accompanied by a medium amount of funk. Grape and red wine notes accompany that acidity, followed by just a bit of wood.

Body is light-medium with moderate, though certainly adequate, carbonation. Dry finish and lingering flavor.

Really nicely done and this was perhaps the surprise hit of the tasting for me, as I wasn't really expecting much but it really delivered.

Thorpe429, Apr 18, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

jophish17, Nov 20, 2011
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4/5  rDev -3.8%

HopStoopid120, Nov 15, 2011
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3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

ygtbsm94, Nov 15, 2011
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5/5  rDev +20.2%

midaszero, Nov 14, 2011
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3/5  rDev -27.9%

westcoastbeerlvr, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of gford217
4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Massive thanks to alen for this beauty.

Pours super cloudy brownish amber with a collection of big bubbles along the top that recedes immediately and leaves nothing around the top.

The aroma is all about the tart fruits, raspberries and cherries especially, dipped in brown sugar. There is also a prominant oak character in the nose as well as the brett and lactic sourness I've come to expect in the LA sours.

The taste is still all about the tart cherries, Cuvee de Tomme coming out for sure, but dipped in a bit of chocolate. The brett comes out in the finish, leaves a dry, earthy zing at the end of each sip.

The mouthfeel is what I expected, given the look. It's very low carbonation, almost wine-like, with a definite oaky tannin character overall.

This is a solid sour but probably not my favorite of the series. It's largely the look and mouthfeel that are lacking and keep this one from being a world class beer for me.

gford217, Aug 28, 2010
Photo of nickd717
3.85/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

What better beer for TICK #1001 than Veritas 001? None, I say! 750ml bottle very generously shared by dyan.

Pours a muddy, dirty reddish brown with minimal head. Does not look good at all.

The aroma is very nice with notes of Cuvee de Tomme, Red Poppy (i.e. cherries, funk, vinegar, wood), chocolate, -bal aging, and rarity.

The flavor is not quite as good. Some nice chocolate-covered cherry is in there, along with oak barrel and funk. Slightly acetic and not too sour.

Medium-bodied with sediment detectable on the palate and low carbonation (surprised?).

Good and interesting stuff, but I've had better from Lost Abbey. The best part about this one is the rarity.

nickd717, Aug 18, 2010
Photo of DefenCorps
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I shared this with a few guys the other day. Many thanks to Alen (RIP) for this rarity

Hazy murky brown flat no head or lace. This is rather ugly. Nose has cherries, acetic acid and bourbon. The cherry is beautiful, whole ripe tart cherries. Some vanilla, there's plenty of oak and tannins. A touch of chocolate? Brown sugar. Wonderful.
The palate is decent. Not very well integrated. Sour cherry juice with white wine grapes, vanilla, moderate brown sugar. Plenty of sweetness. Mildly flabby, the tannins and sweetness clash and don't tighten up the finish. Mild bourbon. Moderate acetic acid. Medium bodied with low carbonation, there's a long finish with vanilla and brown sugar. Solid stuff. Reminds me of the Sinners 2008 in some ways.

DefenCorps, Aug 10, 2010
Photo of MasterSki
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Dyan for bringing this all the way out to California for us - I'd given up looking for this one as there wasn't really much out there to begin with. Served in a tulip glass.

A - A hard pour yields a thin layer of big bubbles to dissipate quickly to an incomplete ring. The body is a purplish maroon color and appears very murky. Looks like juice - should probably get a lower score, but I don't see the sense in punishing the beer any more.

S - Cherry sourness, funk, oak, some other overripe (or even rotten) fruits. As it warms it gets woodier and a bit astringent.

T - Taste is pretty similar - sour cherry,oak, funky rotting fruits. There's a fairly heft malt backbone that imparts some brown sugar. Finish is very woody, and somewhat odd.

M - Very, very, low carbonation, very tannic, with a medium-thick body. Verges on syrupy.

D - Despite its flaws it is strangely compelling. Perhaps it was the puzzle of trying to relate it to Lost Abbey beers I've had before that kept it interesting. Might have been fun to have a couple more ounces, but this was something of which I'd have a hard time drinking a lot.

I'm not sure of the veracity of the blend info posted on various sites, but it was quite believable that this was a blend of Cuvee de Tomme, Redstone Raspberry Mead and Older Viscosity (with significantly less of the last). Still, it felt more like an end of the night drunken blending experiment than the polished brews found later in the series - perhaps this was better when fresh and/or carbonated.

MasterSki, Aug 09, 2010
Photo of largadeer
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks, Dyan.

Murky, turbid, rust colored...no head. This looks pretty bad, 2/5 is being kind of generous.

Lots of tart cherry aroma, also some light acetic acid, raspberries, balsamic vinaigrette, a little dark sugar. Smells much better than it looks.

Tastes good too, plenty of tart cherry along with some oak, raisins, dark malts, a little acetic acid. Medium-bodied, pretty tasty but somewhat muddled. Some vinous notes toward the finish along with a hint of dark sugar. The combination of cherries and dark malt reminds me a whole lot of Cuvee de Tomme, but this beer isn't as refined. Carbonation is low, bordering on non-existent, to the beer's detriment. Good stuff, but not outstanding.

largadeer, Aug 09, 2010
Photo of glid02
4.47/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by Grant - thanks! We looked it up and if I remember correctly it was 40% Red Poppy, 40% Cuvee de Tomme, and 20% Older Viscosity, although the last of the three was widely argued over.

Pours an attractive brownish-orange color with a half-finger off-white head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of tart cherries and raspberries with good amounts of oak and grainy dark malt aromas backing it all up.

Tastes very good, although different than it smells. Grainy caramel malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by tart cherries and currants. Midway through the sip the malt flavors darken a bit, with very light hints of roasted malts. The malt flavors fade before a solidly tart ending.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a nice thickness with grainy carbonation.

Drinkability is also good. I finished my glass very quickly and could easily have a few more.

Overall this was one of the more interesting sours I've had - the nose is very good but not terribly unique but the addition of Older Viscosity puts the flavor profile into special territory. Well worth a shot if you can find a bottle and thanks again to Grant for sharing this.

glid02, May 27, 2010
Photo of Ineedabeerhere
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Wow thanks a ton for sharing this one Greg! Definitely one that I wouldn't have tried otherwise.

Pours really murky.. kind of a rubyish brown with some burnt orange mixed in at the edges, no head at all, but the cork required pliers to be removed...hmmm. A few bottles, but this is essentially pond water.

Definitely a good amount of cuvee de tomme in here... cherries are prominent. A little dirty spice. Kind of a slick taste from the lack of carbonation... a little muddled. Like a confused teenager. Cherry tartness with some other dark fruits (raisin from the cdt) mixed in. Woody and some residual sugar. Good tartness with a restrained spice character... it kind of comes across dirty and muddled with all the fruit that is here from the cdt and red poppy (assuming), and flatness doesn't help. Some red wine vinegar. Alcohol is well integrated. Glad to have had the chance but this one seems to be going downhill.

Ineedabeerhere, Mar 03, 2010
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Veritas 001 from The Lost Abbey
91 out of 100 based on 39 ratings.