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Veritas 004 - The Lost Abbey

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89 Reviews
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Reviews: 89
Hads: 151
Avg: 4.61
pDev: 5.86%
Wants: 369
Gots: 13 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: scottoale on 11-16-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.
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Reviews: 89 | Hads: 151
Reviews by slaintemhor:
Photo of slaintemhor
4.48/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Got to sample the '04 of this yesterday at a tasting at my house.
The color was cloudy and straw-like. The nose was nicely acetic with hints of wood and lemon. On the palate, vinegar, crispness, tart and tangy with quince, lemon and funk. The finish was decidedly lengthy and refreshingly tangy.

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Photo of joe1510
4.47/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5


Alex pulls out yet another big bottle for a taste, thanks again Ski! The pour produces a clean, nearly straw golden liquid that manages to glow when backlit. The snap, crackle, pop of the head grows rather easily to a finger in height before fizzing out to a skimming after a minute or two. A couple small flecks of foam stick to the glass but slide into the body after a few seconds.

VERITAS 04 hits its stride in the aroma department. The nose is very Cantillon-like with the combination of mustiness, cobwebs and tartness that makes my mouth water uncontrollably before even taking my first drink. Citric notes, mostly lemon, and a faint hint of tart peach add the fruity tartness while handfuls of musty attic, wet worn leather, decaying wood, horseblanket, and other various farmyard entities take hold. The nose on this beer is as close to an authentic gueuze as I've yet to come across from an American brewery. Seriously, it's a mouthwater inducer!

The flavor profile can't quite hit the massive expectations left behind from the aroma but is still so insanely good that it warrants the same score. This gueuze shows off a mouth puckering amount of citric acidity that cleans things out after the hugely complex musty barnyard notes roll through. Again, the flavor is loaded with that very familiar Cantillon funkiness. Damp hay, wet rock mineral-ish qualities, cobwebs, and leather abound before the citric bite takes over. When Lost Abbey gives a shit they do it up right.

LA hit the carbonation just right on this brew. It's fizzy but not prickly and manages to wash the tongue fairly clean after each drink. The body is moderately light with enough heft to allow the complexity to work through slowly. A mouth puckering citric tartness brings up the rear and is still, to this day, making my mouth water.

I could slam this beer without a problem, besides heartburn, nearly all day long. The combination of light body, refreshing tartness, and incredible flavors make this a hard beer to set down. If VERITAS 04 was readily available I would have no problem finding a reason for liver failure.

VERITAS 04 is the most authentic and delicious of gueuzes I've come across from a US brewer and could actually rival a good deal of Belgian's finest. Lost Abbey can make good beer, it's a shame they don't care enough to take care of their other labels as much as the super special releases. Thanks again for sharing, Alex!

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Photo of joel66
4.75/5  rDev +3%

Photo of jeonseh
4.71/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Drank at a NWIBDU tasting. Thanks guys!

S - Peaches, peach skin, sweet tarts, lemon and a light farmhouse funk wrap up a great nose.

T - Tart, lemon, light lactic acid, peach, lemon peel, and oak. The beer has a lot of tartness but it balanced extremely well with the light sweetness of the peaches. Really a great and flavorful sour.

M - Light carbonation in a light body that would make this dangerous if you could get more than a bottle. Tart dry finish

O - Really an outstanding sour that has a great balance between the tartness of the base sour balanced well with the sweetness of the peaches.

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4.25/5  rDev -7.8%

Photo of ggaughan
4.47/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sampled on Christmas Day thanks to my cousin, krkearney. The beer poured a cloudy golden, yellow color with a half inch thick white head. The nose had a nice aroma of citrus fruits, a bit earthy and yeast notes as well. The taste is wonderful. Tart up front with a nice mix of sweet as well. I also got a touch of wood character and some buttery notes as well. Another fine Lost Abbey beer.

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Photo of jh1982
5/5  rDev +8.5%

Photo of DJButters
4.54/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had this monster side by side with Isabelle Dec 2012.

I wont be going into extreme detail since all tasting notes can be reviewed below but I can tell you that the nose and taste of the fading peaches is fantastic. I would not wait any longer to enjoy this. I can only imagine how good this beer was a few years ago. Very mild carb, almost no head when poured. IP + V004 blend is amazing do to what I felt was better mouthfeel and carb on the IP.

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
4.76/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Shared by Steve (fbm115) at a tasting 5/29/10. 4oz. pour from a 750ml corked and caged bottle into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a 1 finger quickly evaporating coarse white head. Beer is a cloudy lemon-yellow. Lacing is non-existant with the tiny bit of spottiness here and there.

S: Lemon, cherry, sweet and sour peach. Wood, peat, and earthiness are all present to complement the fruit. Slight ethanol in the background. Good complexity here but what makes this is that the fruit flavors are easily distinguishable and all very potent.

T: Big tartness at the outset makes my face cringe. Mellow lemons with peach in the background. On my second sip, I get a bit more used to the sour. Malt profile kicks in with cherries and a different side of the peach. Finish is citrussy but clean and dry. Aftertaste is near non-existant.

M: Light bodied, highly carbonated, and very lively and coarse. Dry in the mouth and dry at the finish with a great, clean aftertaste that gets you ready for the next sip.

D: This beer clearly stands out for me from the heavily loaded and hyped veritas series. Great complexity and cleaness here with a spot-on mouthfeel. The nose provides a glimpse of what the beer is all about and then the flavors follow through perfectly. An amazing brew, if you're ever going to try to acquire a veritas, let it be this one, it more than does its siblings justice. And really, as a fellow BA said, "if the beer tastes amazing, who the heck cares what it looks like!"

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3.75/5  rDev -18.7%

Photo of Photekut
5/5  rDev +8.5%

Photo of Gonzoillini
4.5/5  rDev -2.4%

Photo of hooliganlife
4.65/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5


served in a lost abbey stemmed glass

pours a slightly orange and hazy yellow. very light carbonation and head. light retention.

scent was a bit subtle. light oak and lemon with a faint bit of citrus. very zesty.

the taste.. moderate sourness. lots of citrus. a very nice complex blend of apricot, peach, lemon, red grape, and light oak. this was a lot more simple than i had expected, yet very perfect as far as sourness to fruit and flavor blend.

nice moderate carbonation, bit of zest on the tongue. nice light dryness with a hint of sweetness. nice sour zing on the tongue to finish this off.

ok.. this is good. is it whale like? hell, yeah. the apricot flavor is in it is just amazing. nothing to overpowering.

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Photo of nickd717
4.38/5  rDev -5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle via trade, big thanks to KRAMER17801. Shared at my buddy Roger (Sandstone on BA)'s birthday dinner/bottle share.

Pours a mostly clear golden color with a one-finger, somewhat fizzy head and some floating yeast colonies.

Aroma is lemony tartness, funk, and light fruits. Smells pretty sour, but nice.

Flavor is amazing and complex. Funk, lemon, unripe peach, cherry, and orange. Definitely some brett in there. Long, tart finish.

Medium-bodied with prickly carbonation and a lively mouthfeel. Great acidity.

Drinkability is very high. Overall, yep, it's a good one, and sadly probably the closest I'll ever come to trying Yellow Bus. For consolation though, this is pretty much everything I expected Yellow Bus to be.

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Photo of MiScusi
4.37/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared with me by Jessethehutt, JRhode, and JHamel... thanks guys!!

Pours a kinda hazy golden. Soap sudsy white head. The smell brings the salivation reflex instantaneously. A sweet citric acid sour aroma. Taste is like the sour lemon bubblelicioius I use to buy as a kid... that one who's flavor would only last for like 10 seconds. Thankfully the flavor of this beer is not so fleeting. Great mouthfeel with prickly carbonation. Couldn't really pick up any other nuances but overall I really liked this beer.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
4.38/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Long time want! 750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Bright orange and hazy. Very small white head and a thin collar.

Smell - Peaches and apricots. Bright acidic. Woody. Lots of oak. Wheat and grain.

Taste - Very nice stone fruit flavor. Not quite as distinct as the aroma, but a nice peach. flavor. Strong sourness. Woodiness builds. It gets a little bit too strong in the sourness in the finish, but it's just a touch too much.

Mouthfeel - Medium body. Medium carbonation.

Overall - Really impressive, especially for its age. Delicious fruit flavor that complements a well-made sour.

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Photo of davod23
4.94/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I feel so privileged to get a chance to drink this fine beer. Thanks, Jason.

Pour is fairly nondescript. A billowing white cap on top of a hazy, yellow body. Orange highlights are evident. The head dissipates to nothing in virtually no time flat.

Aroma. Hot damn. Peaches and tropical fruits (mango, pineapple), lactic sourness, funk. The aroma is absolutely intoxicating.

Not the sourest beer I've had, but it's in the conversation. Big sour peach, tangy, long lasting finish that lingers on the tongue. I'm glad to see that the couple years in the bottle hasn't obliterated the fruit component of this beer... I wonder how it (or if it) could have been better than it is now.

Mouthfeel is perfect. No two ways about it. Medium bodied, vigorous but not overbearing carbonation. Simultaneously dry and a tiny bit sticky-ish on the finish.

Drinkability is just off the charts. I could polish a whole bottle off myself in no time flat. I just have to be patient with this... take my time... because I just don't see myself getting another chance at trying this beer.

Damn you, Tomme. Brew this again. Seriously. It's practically criminal that this could be a one-off. I was concerned that the accolades around this beer have given me unrealistic expectations and I was bound to be disappointed... nope. Not even close. Whew.

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Photo of dsgolovin
4.5/5  rDev -2.4%

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5/5  rDev +8.5%

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4.5/5  rDev -2.4%

Photo of SpdKilz
4.5/5  rDev -2.4%

Photo of emerge077
4.5/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Jason for this one!
Long awaited and still kicking.

Pours a golden orange, charged with lively carbonation, a frothy head and ample lacing around the edges.

Aroma is sharply acidic with identifiable peach presence still noticeable. Woody vanilla in the periphery, and some cheese rind barrel funk.

Bracingly sour, puckering sour peach pit. Very acidic, it has a sharp fruity note of sour peach and becomes fleeting and dry in the aftertaste. Crisp and effervescent, minimal funk at this point. Very sour with the peach element of Yellow Bus still hanging on. Good stuff, though I'm glad we drank it now.

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Photo of abfraser
4/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks to waltonc for this in another generously shared beer drinking event.

A: Hazy golden yellow with a small head. My initial thought is "Oh no, not another no carbonation Lost Abbey beer." But overall a good looking beer.

S: A slight muskiness similar to an aged lambic. But not nearly as complex. Sour peaches, and other stone fruit.

T/M: Tart and funky, with the stone fruit flavors really dominating for me. The mouthfeel was mostly typical of a good sour--dry, and acidic. But then there's the lack of carbonation. Although not as uncarbonated as other LAs, I still think it detracts overall from the beer. Sour beers just taste better with carbonation, in my opinion.

D: Goes down pretty well. But drinkability is hindered by the fact that there's very little supply of this stuff.

Overall, solid effort. I wouldn't put this in the upper echelon of sours but enjoyable.

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Photo of hoppymcgee
4.27/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

Thanks to fbm115 for sharing this bottle at a tasting on 5/29/10. Poured approx. 4oz. from a 750ml bottle into a small snifter.

A: Glowing straw color with fizzy "tight-bubble" carbonation.

S: Lemon drop shot! Smells delicious.

T: Sweet to start - lots of apples, pears, and peaches with tannins going to work to produce a tart finish.

M: A little flat despite the appearance.

D: Very refreshing. A beer that I could drink all the time.

Overall, this is probably the best Veritas in the series so far.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
4.69/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Numbeercruncher threw this in as an EXTRA back in Nov, '08.... Great trade and then Matt threw off the whole equilibrium by including this... I've been sitting on this bottle for a long time and wanted to make sure that the proper Peeps had a chance to enjoy it.... We had a great tasting last weekend... This was one of the first bottles.

Hazy yellow.. nice head and retention..

Nose is amazing... very balanced sour.. oak.. musty/basement underripe apricot.. bits and pieces of funky brett.. lemon zest.. dank hay....

very tart out of the gate.... green apple skin.. meyer lemon zest.. I swear there is some "peach" essence in there... dips into some gueze "lite" category... funky and very elegant.. some pronounced lactic traces on late pours..

Amazing.... incredibly well done.... I had a couple of pours of Yellow Bus at the GABF and I think the Veritas actually had more Peachy qualitities... Wonderful... worthy of the hype for sure.


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Veritas 004 from The Lost Abbey
100 out of 100 based on 89 ratings.