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Veritas 004 - The Lost Abbey

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143 Ratings
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Ratings: 143
Reviews: 87
rAvg: 4.63
pDev: 5.83%
Wants: 364
Gots: 8 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: scottoale on 11-16-2008)
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Ratings: 143 | Reviews: 87 | Display Reviews Only:
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deapokid

Pennsylvania

5/5  rDev +8%

11-25-2011 23:00:12 | More by deapokid
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GRG1313

California

5/5  rDev +8%

11-25-2011 20:54:48 | More by GRG1313
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ktrillionaire

Florida

4.85/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to heyohhh for the share. V004 pours a light golden hue, very translucent, and, visibly, it is not tremendously effervescent. The brew is quite mellow in flavor and aroma; pleasantly so. There is a mild acidity, and some tannic-woody notes, but more than that it expresses an intangible mild musty funk. I don't really pick up much lactic or acetic, nor is fruit implied hugely. There is perhaps some nuances akin to white grape, and if I stretch it, perhaps I can find white peaches. The mild and mellow elements of this Veritas extend to the softly petillant feel, which comes across as highly appropriate for this delicately nuanced libation. Overall, this is a fantastic (and hard to rate/quantify) brew; while on one hand it is not over-the-top with any particular flavor or impression, on the other hand it is essentially flawless. So there is that.

Serving type: bottle

11-21-2011 13:31:22 | More by ktrillionaire
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mistakebythelake

Ohio

5/5  rDev +8%

11-16-2011 18:50:48 | More by mistakebythelake
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jerz

California

5/5  rDev +8%

11-16-2011 06:25:12 | More by jerz
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PlinyTheKid

California

5/5  rDev +8%

11-16-2011 02:28:00 | More by PlinyTheKid
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shaunt0000

California

5/5  rDev +8%

11-16-2011 02:04:57 | More by shaunt0000
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cadaugherty

Illinois

5/5  rDev +8%

11-16-2011 00:28:15 | More by cadaugherty
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furthurgone

California

5/5  rDev +8%

11-15-2011 11:20:24 | More by furthurgone
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ygtbsm94

Virginia

4.5/5  rDev -2.8%

11-15-2011 04:31:39 | More by ygtbsm94
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jh1982

Nevada

5/5  rDev +8%

11-15-2011 01:19:39 | More by jh1982
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Photekut

Tennessee

5/5  rDev +8%

11-14-2011 22:55:11 | More by Photekut
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westcoastbeerlvr

California

4.75/5  rDev +2.6%

11-14-2011 18:11:57 | More by westcoastbeerlvr
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writerLJBerg

Oregon

4.5/5  rDev -2.8%

11-14-2011 17:10:16 | More by writerLJBerg
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SourNotes

Minnesota

5/5  rDev +8%

11-14-2011 16:32:29 | More by SourNotes
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whartontallboy

New York

5/5  rDev +8%

11-14-2011 15:05:19 | More by whartontallboy
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Urbancaver

Ohio

4.6/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clear golden yellow. Nice touch of white head. Looks pretty. Smells fruity and tart. Lots of light citrus. Very funky. Tastes tart and a bit acidic. Well carbonated. A bit too sweet but overall very nice. I really enjoy this beer. Not very much peach at first but it grows :)

Serving type: bottle

11-11-2011 00:30:55 | More by Urbancaver
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treyrab

California

4.25/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Opened at an impromptu tasting on September 9 with Dan NittanyBeerFan.

A: Veritas 004 opens with a nice pop (no gush) and pours into the tulip a nice yellow copper. A beauty of a head rises (spritzy head - not creamy or lasting) and falls rather quickly. Rather cloudy, though it has been sitting for months in the cellar. Looks nice. A tad darker than Yellow Bus, but I am sure that is expected with a dash of Cuvee.

S: A nice whiff of cherry and peach cocktail start. Very vibrant, but not too lactic, which is nice. It allows the softer side of the Brett to shine through and complement the peaches and cherries. Nice tropical fruit sourness as well as hints of oak. Pardon my comparisons to Yellow Bus, but this has a significantly less peach character (as expected), but an abundance more cherry tartness in the smell.

T: Tart cherry pie puree and smashed peach cockail hit you first. The sourness is robust, but not lactic to take away from the nuances of the bugs. Beyond the fruit, there is some slight oak, lemon zest, and perhaps vanilla. Very solid, but a tad one dimensional. I really appreciate the cherry and peach combination.

Overall, one hell of a beer. One of the best Lost Abbey's I have had. Probably the second best Lost Abbey sour I have had behind Yellow Bus. Well done Tomme.

Serving type: bottle

09-28-2011 11:53:40 | More by treyrab
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NittanyBeerFan

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks go out to treyrab for sharing this highly touted rarity during an impromptu tasting on September 9th. Reviewed from notes.

Veritas 004 pours a clear light orange-hued copper. It is neither flat nor overcarbonated, and the sides of the glass do not show the large and lively carbonation bubbles that were so prominent when I had Yellow Bus. There is a light layer of bubbles on the top of the beer after the pour-related activity is all said and done.

The aroma yields a light dry funk, some hints of peachy esters, as well as an underlying sourness that pops against an oaky tannic background note. The flavors are similar, delicious, but I find that this beer lacks some of the depth of the other great American wilds. Certainly enjoyable, but there just isn't much complexity to be found here.

The texture is tingly and lightly bodied. Easy to drink, this is an enjoyable beer that I am happy to have had a chance to enjoy.

Serving type: bottle

09-25-2011 21:59:36 | More by NittanyBeerFan
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DaveJanssen

Germany

4.5/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750 split three ways into red wine glasses. Big thanks to Footstones. Reviewed 20 March 2011.

Ar: Tart, fruity, lemony citrus, tart berry, nectarine, strong peach, clean lost abbey fruity sour profile, pineapple

Ap: White head, good retention, clear bright gold

T: Lemony sour, peach, nectarine, strong pineapple, lots of tropical fruit, nice floral notes, super fruity, berries, complex, overwhelming fruit character, Similar to other lost abbey wilds (Cable Car, DDG) in the strong fruit and minimal funk but this has a stronger pineapple and less berry, very mild grassy notes, warming acid, nice tropical fruit, acid diminishes with time

M: Light body, high carbonation, rather acidic but not burning, acid is more harsh than other LA wilds

O: Very good, excellent fruit, strong pineapple, good peach and lemon characters

Serving type: bottle

09-14-2011 03:20:00 | More by DaveJanssen
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callmemickey

Pennsylvania

4.5/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had this back to back with Yellow Bus. The Veritas 004 is the better beer.

A: Slightly hazy yellow-orange body. Thin whitish skim on top that stays throughout. Slightest bits of lacing.

S: Clean, popping citric notes with peach, lemons, orange, and dragon fruit taking center stage. Just the slightest hints of funk and must.

T: Like the nose, this is incredible vibrant with lots of fruit in initial sips. The peoch notes are not as assertive as in the nose as lemon-like notes move up a bit.

M: Medium carbonation. Clean, crisp, sour finish. Well-defined and refreshing.

O: Up there amongst the best american wild ales.

Serving type: bottle

09-09-2011 15:40:01 | More by callmemickey
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JAXSON

Pennsylvania

4.33/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2009 rate.

75cl bottle, big thanks to Matt. Pours a light, hazy peach with a big fluffy head. Initial salty aroma heavy on lactic acid and a really earthy brett. Wow, flavor is awesome, just light-years better than Isabelle I think. Really earthy, musky, and a bit salty. Tons of brett. Has a little bit of that sweaty sock brett element. Really beautiful soft peach/apricot presence in there. I’m not completely crazy about the hollow, salty brett element from the geuze part of the blend. This beer is best drank alongside a plate of feta cheese. It really works through the hard salty element and lets the rich, sour light fruit notes shine.

Update. After having this a few more times, including directly next to Yellow Bus once, and next to Isabelle and Deviation another time, and once a whole bottle before going on a run and getting sick, I can make some better summaries about this. Most similar to Yellow Bus, of course, with a great effervescent quality. Not as singular as YB, more complex, but more salty also. Much better than Isabelle in pretty much every way, deeper complexity, more layers, less annoying acidity. Not on the same level as Deviation. In my opinion even the best Lost Abbey sours are not on the level as the best Russian River sours.

Serving type: bottle

07-31-2011 02:33:55 | More by JAXSON
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Verecund

Texas

4.7/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to James for the trade. Opened in July 2011, part of the summer of all-things-good. 750ml into my Lost Abbey tulip.

Yellowed orange-peel, lightly hazed body with a one-finger sunset orange head. Rings of lacing.

Beautiful blend of musty and earthy funk and citric acidity. Expressive funk, but more pleasant on the nose (to me) than DDG - there are hints of peach, pineapple, and white grapes. A touch of maraschino cherry.

Poignant tartness for the first two-thirds of the palate, lactic acidity, and lots of bright peach, citrus and cherry (in that order). The musky funk from the nose is here, but I also pick up a "sweeter" pineapple brett funk which blends perfectly with the fruit. Very little oak, but there is a hint of tannic oak on the finish. An exceptional blend.

Medium-light bodied, very creamy. Very crisp - all of the flavors are expressive, which is impressive given the beer's age.

This beer lived up to my high expectations. One of the best, if not the best, American wild ale(s) I've had.

Serving type: bottle

07-26-2011 01:36:59 | More by Verecund
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scottfrie

California

4.05/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A huge thank you for sharing this one, Jeff. Poured into Jackie O’s snifter.

A: Pours a lightly hazy lemon-yellow with a thin white head.
S: The nose is full of funky and lightly sour notes of sweat and earthy barnyard funk. There is a bit of ambiguously fruity and herbal notes as well.
T: Fairly complex and earthy tasting with flavors of lemon, peaches, tangerine, sweat, hay and brett. The finish has suggestions of peaches and apricots. Overall, flavors are rather mellow with no one aspect dominating. The sourness isn’t overpowering either, but there is a bite of vinegar, tart lemon zest, and slight acetone.
M: Body is on the thin side of medium. Mouthfeel is tart and clean, and the thin carbonation froths up a bit in my mouth.
O: Really solid all around. I loved DDG, and to a lesser extent CdT, and although I’ve never had YB, I’d say DDG is what this beer tastes the most like to me. I dare say I like a lot of other wilds better (including DDG), but I would never pass up an opportunity to drink this again. A very solid brew.

Serving type: bottle

07-22-2011 01:43:47 | More by scottfrie
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stakem

Pennsylvania

4.6/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to Kramer for sharing this at a recent tasting.

Poured from a corked and caged 750ml into a mini snifter. This brew appears a clear golden yellow color with a fizzy topping of white head that recedes quickly. It laces on the sides of the glass in a spotty pattern. A swirl revives the head to a lacing across the top of the brew.

The smell of this brew is downright amazing, easily one of the best aromas I've ever smelled in a beer. Even smelling the empty bottle is glorious. I'll try to put a few descriptors here but my words do not do this brew's aroma any justice. It smells of lemony funk with a light rind touch, it's both grassy and earthy with herbal notes that turn to sweet smelling flowers and fruits. The smell of this brew engulfs the nose in a very impressive aroma that is exceptionally pleasing.

The taste of the brew picks up where the aroma left off but with a deeper complexity and layering of funk as the main focus. There is a lemony tartness and acidity upfront that evolves into more of an earthy funked taste with light notes of sulfur through the back. Where the aroma of this brew had a great depth of scents to take in, the taste gets focused on the sourness. As it warms there are faint notes of fruit.

This is a light bodied brew with a lively, moderately high level of carbonation but not overly so. This is tart and very salivating brew that is excessively drinkable. Throughout the entire experience I never got any indication of the listed 8% abv, masterfully hidden. This is something I wish I could drink on a regular basis but I'm very grateful for having the chance to try it once. Thanks again Kramer!

Serving type: bottle

04-11-2011 13:00:56 | More by stakem
Veritas 004 from The Lost Abbey
100 out of 100 based on 143 ratings.