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Veritas 005 - The Lost Abbey

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39 Ratings
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Ratings: 39
Reviews: 24
rAvg: 4.73
pDev: 4.44%
Wants: 211
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: HopHead84 on 11-16-2009)
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Reviews by vacax:
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5/5  rDev +5.7%

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
4.75/5  rDev +0.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

HUGE thanks to Mikey711 for providing this one. I never thought I'd see a bottle, much less get to taste it. Opened 5/29/10. 4oz. pour from a 750ml corked and caged bottle into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a .5 finger semi-coarse white head that dissipates quickly. Beer is a stunning, clear amber. Lacing is near non-existant with a bit of stringyness for a little tease.

S: Big and bold raspberry notes upfront. Funky, and slightly yeasty. Tartness in the back is detectable but is covered for the most part by a grape peel sweetness.

T: Light grape presence upfront. Vinous and tart. Sweetness grows though the tartness never really fades. Spicy in the middle from ample carbonation. Raspberries, grape, and lemon. Woodiness in the background. Finishes with a slight tartness and a messy aftertaste of lemon and grape peel.

M: Light bodied and highly carbonated. Rough around the edges and jumps in the mouth. Perfect for the style. Dry and saliva-enducing. Finishes messy but with such a pleasant aftertaste that I don't mind at all.

D: Amazing. From the appearance, to the smell, to the taste and feel, this beer comes together wonderfully in every aspect. Complex yet clean and simple at the same time, I thoroughly enjoyed every drop of this mythical nectar. Don't pass this one up if you ever get a chance.

Photo of mikey711
4.85/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Never thought i would get to try this one beer because this beer doesnt exist.

A: It pours with a champagne like carbonation. its a reddish pink, very much like cranberry juice, very nice clarity and a bit of a ring around the top.

S: This is just straight up funk. there is some cheesiness and plenty of wood tannins. The grapes are very pleasant adding some tartness.

T: Its very acidic with a lot of wine like tannins. quite dry and plenty of tart grapes. Loads of funkiness. This is one of the funkiness beers I have ever had. Very nice wood notes as well

M: A little bit of prickly carbonation which I liked and some acidity. Very dry and champagne like. Extremely easy to drink for a sour especially

D: I enjoyed this during a partial veritas veritcal and found this to be my favorite of the bunch and in fact, the overall funkiness of this was incredible and one of the most enjoyable sours I have ever had

Photo of GRG1313
5/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of lisomiso
5/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of hoppymcgee
4.38/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Alas, Veritas 005 aka Tomme's Arthur's Secret Love Child. Had this at an epic tasting on 5/29/10. Poured approx. 4oz. from a 750ml bottle into a small snifter.

A: Vibrant cranberry color; sparkling with all the love Tomme Arthur put into this beer.

S: Funk, leather, and prunes.

T: Grape skins, toasted bread, with tannins that lead to a tart finish.

M: Dry with a good body.

D: Smooth and refreshing.

Overall, this is the best "non-existent" beer I've had.

Photo of oline73
4.73/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Yet another beer that I thought I would never get to try that was hand delivered by Tomme and crew. Poured into a tasting snifter.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy red color with hardly any head at all.

Smell: This one smells very tart with some vinegar and wine notes. I'm getting some funk with the sour notes, but this one is pretty bright and fruity as well.

Taste: This beer might have been my favorite of the night. Bright and fruity grapes but it's also incredibly sour. The sour notes are not at all vinegar like, reminds me of fresh lemon juice. The sourness stays on the tongue. Very refreshing. I really enjoyed type of grapes in the beer.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with aggressive and foamy carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: This beer was so refreshing and different. I loved the grapes. This one was up there with Veritas 004 for my favorite of the night.

Photo of pperez38
5/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of ygtbsm94
4.5/5  rDev -4.9%

Photo of Thorpe429
4.53/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle at the DC Lambic & Sour Tasting on April 14, 2012 as part of a full Veritas set, 001-010. Served in a Lost Abbey Teku.

Unbelievable amount of thank yous go out to Richard for coming all the way from LA with this bottle to complete the series.

Pours an amber-red with a small light tan head that recedes fairly quickly into a collar, leaving a few spots of lacing on the sides of the glass.

The nose has some nice, dark, and earthy fruits followed up with a brisk acidity full of red grapes and wine. Touch of oak in the background with some funk following everything up.

The flavor is equally as complex. It's not on the level of Cantillon's Don Quijote, but it's certainly up there as one of the best damn grape-based sours that I've had. Long duration of the flavor fills the palate with a fairly-heavy acidity and moderate funk.

Body is medium and just a bit chewy with average carbonation. Finish is quite dry and acidic. Touch of tannin and wood, with an acidic grape character throughout.

A marvelous creation that I was thrilled to finally try. It wasn't quite the best beer of the tasting, but it was up there, and likely the best American-made beer we had.

Photo of AgentZero
4.88/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Huge thanks to Sean for sharing this rarity. Review #1500.

A - This beer is a bright, neon red. There's a little pink in there almost. Exceptionally distinctive, and novelty cool looking. Just the bare minimum of white head that disappeared quickly and left nothing on the sides.

S - Grapes, sweet vinous notes, quite sour. There's a bit of oak in there that is soft enough not to obliterate the rest of the great smells coming from the beer. Has a nice acetic tartness.

T - Not sure it's going to get a whole lot better than this. Awesome tart and sour notes, with a kick of sweetness that makes this about perfect. Sour cherries, grapes, touch of oak. Easy to drink, full of flavor, and refreshing.

M - Light, moderate carbonation, nice dry finish.

O - One of the best beers I've had the priviledge of having. It's a shame there isn't more of this in existence as it's truly an experience.

Photo of BucketBoy
4.53/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Bottle courtesy of me, with help from ShadesOfGray, treyrab, and NittanyBeerFan. Huge thanks for the assist to cpferris, and to HopHead 84 for making the final connection happen.

L - The most beautiful hue of ruby red glistens in my Thomas Hardy's snifter, in the sunshine on Ryan's patio. 3 mm ring of mascarpone foam around the edge of the glass, I can't imagine a more spectacularly colored sour.

S - Tart acetic acid mingles with vinous red grape and a touch of raw zinc flavor and short circuit mineral. Some balsawood and red wine vinegar in the finish. Quite nice!

T - What a lovely tart vinous grape beer, quite sour, with a zinc mineral mid-palate, olive juice earthiness, perhaps some sharp green apple acidity and crab apple blossoms.

M - Bright lively carbonation on the front and mid palate finished with a nice just-tannic finish that brushes the palate with flavor. Really fills the mouth and lingers for ages.

O - thanks again to everyone above for hooking this up. A real treat, more sour than I expected and one I look forward to revisiting.

Photo of womencantsail
4.43/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks, Richard!

Pours a murky reddish pink color with a small head. Sour fruit is the first thing to hit the nose. Lots of grape, wood, and quite a strong lactic acidity. A little bit of raspberry and red fruit flavor. Nicely sour with some grapes and plenty of oak. Some red wine and lactic acidity, too. Medium bodied and medium carbonation. Wales.

Photo of DefenCorps
4.7/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I expected to cross paths with this beer, but never in the fashion that I did. Thank you, Tomme.

Like a dark rose, this is red with no head or no lacing. I like the color here. The nose is surprisingly mellow. Bright with sour grapes, rather wild and moderately tannic. As it warms up, I get some peppery aromas with a mildly musky grape aroma (not as musky as a Concord grape, but muskier than your regular table grapes). Moderately lemony base beer sourness is present too.

The palate opens super sour but the grape character that is a counterpoint to it is just outstanding. Rich, deep with notes of chocolate, cocoa, raspberry jam, rhubarb tartness, this is very good. The fruity tartness and the grape character is singular. A little bit of a seedy tannin character is present, I wonder if that's because there were seeds in the grapes, or due to stems? I don't know. Medium-light in body, medium-light in carbonation with a great finish that's got a blend of lemony and lactic sourness and wild grapes, this is an exceptional sour, and despite the fairly high sourness, this is exceptionally drinkable.

Photo of raveskdr
4.98/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of the 6 bottles Tomme brought as he showed up on my doorstep uninvited. I let him in, I guess ;-) Poured into my mini snifter.

A - Beautiful dark red almost pinkish color. Bottle popped and fizzed as it poured. Very, very slight bubbles on the side of glass.

S - Huge musty grape smell up front. Slight acidity on the back end.

T - Wow. Interesting red grape combo straight up front. Very interesting varietal. A fantastic amount sourness right in the middle and finishes up on the back end. Mouth puckering that hits you right in the back of the tongue.

M - Super acidity that makes your mouth water. Nice medium body and some brilliant lingering sourness.

O - This is probably the best sour beer I have ever tasted. Such an interesting integrated unique beer. Never thought in a millions years I'd get my hands on this one. Random and brilliant.

Photo of HopHead84
4.93/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I suppose Veritas 005 is fitting for review #500. Consumed on 11/15/2009 at O'Brien's Lost Abbey rare bottle tasting amidst a Veritas 001-006 vertical at the tail end of the first San Diego Beer Week. Veritas 005 is described as an experimental batch (6 cases) that features wild native Southern California grapes (Vitis Girdianas) and a sour base beer (sour Avant Garde?). Veritas 005 is the same beer as Veritas 005 Vino. The beer appears a beautiful pinkish reddish purple. I can't say that I've ever before seen a beer of this color. The head is fizzy and white. Great clarity and color.

The nose is dusty grape skins with wet leather character and a distinct funk reminiscent of barnyard and wet horse blanket. The grapes are vibrant, and I detect a little plum. The nose has an earthy character with noticeable wood and tannins. It's similar to St. Lamvinus, but with a more potent wild grape aroma.

The flavor is excellent, with vibrant grape notes interspersed among musty barnyard funk. The beer has a subtle lactic character to it, and wet leather, goaty, and subtle cheese notes are evident. The most prominent fruit is apparently grape, but I think more specifically tart grape skins. Wood and tannins provide a drying finish, with a mouth watering succulent grape tartness. Outstanding.

The mouthfeel is dry with an almost numbing tannic quality. I think this gives 004 a run for its money as the best in the Veritas series. I really hope to see something similar recreated in the future. Highly recommended.

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5/5  rDev +5.7%

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5/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of brian4beer
4.5/5  rDev -4.9%

Photo of Mopps
4.5/5  rDev -4.9%

Photo of Ineedabeerhere
4.65/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Wow, another one. Just ridiculous that I got to try this non existent beer, many thanks. From notes.

Pours a brilliant bursting cherry red with some light foam of pinkish hue.

Aroma is, wow. So much funkier than I would have expected. Cheesy qualities. Feet. It smells like feet.... that might have athletes foot. Wet wood and a great fruit burst of grape flavor. Its just generally very 'wild' and 'untamed' smelling.

Taste is very vinous, berries, grapes. Sharp acidity, same expressive funk character here, though in a lesser capacity. Great tannin presence, contributing to the excellently dry, nearly leathery finish.

Excellent mouthfeel, well carbonated but not overly spritzery. Just a very nice beer, and a true shame that it was produced in such limited quantities.

Photo of martinemde
4.88/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Tomme had a great story about Veritas 005 that he shared with us at our Veritas vertical at O'Brien's. It was the last day of San Diego Beer Week and the last event for O'Brien's and for Lost Abbey.

We were each poured about 4oz's of the red/purple tinted ale as the story was relayed to us. A man came into the brewery suggesting they make a beer using some wild grapes that were growing in his son's yard. Lost Abbey agreed and when time came for delivery, they awaited their truck load of grapes.

The man walked in, there was no truck. He carried with him two 5 gallon buckets of the wild Cabernet Franc grapes. If there was any question why only 72 bottles were made, this laid it to rest.

The tart nose of 005 is noticeable immediately. From the aroma you would assume you're getting a tart, yet sweet beer.

The flavor is fairly complex. Sour fruits and grape skin tartness with a medium dry finish. Very little of the body that is present at first taste remains and there is no sticky or sweet remnants. This is a beer you could drink all night and enjoy every sip like it was the first.

I wish this beer wasn't so rare, though there is hope. Tomme said that they may be in contact with another producer of cab franc grapes and they'll be experimenting with this style again. Just a week ago, though he gave no indication of what they might become, another 2 buckets of California wild cab franc grapes arrived at Lost Abbey.

Photo of CityofBals
4.5/5  rDev -4.9%

Photo of Sean9689
4.93/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I pulled this one out of the cellar after a long time coming. 750ml C&C bottle into mini-snifter. Shared with the crew.

A - Pours bright neon red, seriously a beautiful color, white head, some bubbles here and there, and a thin collar. I could easily pick this beer out with the red hue it gives off, wow!

S - Red wine/grape, huge sour/tart note, oak, grape skins. This has everything you'd want in a world-class our. Excellent tartness, nice oak, wonderful fruity sourness. More 3F or Cantillon then anything from the US...(this is huge compliment).

T - Phenomenal tart/sour, red wine, oak, grape skins, funk, barnyard, musty notes. Again, more lambic-esque then anything I've ever had from a US brewery. Just.Simply.Awesome.

M - Body is light, good carbonation, super dry finish.

O - I never thought another Veritas would be able to top 004 and I was proven wrong with 005. Worth all the wait, hype, and tears I shed when this bottle was opened. Glad I could share with good friends who seemed to enjoy this as much as me. Doubt I'll ever have the chance again, unless Tomme does a Veritas vertical tasting in the future. Mind-blowingly-good.

Photo of zestar
4.5/5  rDev -4.9%

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Veritas 005 from The Lost Abbey
100 out of 100 based on 39 ratings.