Veritas 007 - The Lost Abbey

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Ratings: 153
Reviews: 71
rAvg: 4.52
pDev: 7.52%
Wants: 317
Gots: 29 | FT: 0
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California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: largadeer on 02-08-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews by ptykozoon:
Photo of ptykozoon
4.23/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours an immensely beautiful golden sap color. Glowing candy orange in the light. Head dissipates fast with islands of foam and a ring of lacing. One of the prettiest beers I've ever seen actually.

Smell is pungent sour grape with citrus, cherry, strawberry undertones.

Taste is not quite as dramatic as the smell, but very good nonetheless. The aforementioned smells along with lemon sourness make this quite an exceptional drink.

Dry, bubbly mouthfeel. Very good.

A beautiful, aromatic, tasty beer with decent complexity and a refreshing finish make this a worthy adversary to the best sours out there.

More User Reviews:
Photo of kingcrowing
4.28/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at NotF poured into a sampling glass. Reviewed from notes.

Pours red with almost no head, light white lacing. Nose is sweet and tart and funky.

Taste is really tart and sharp, super crisp and funky. It's got a light mouthfeel with a really fine bite at the end, really tasty and easy drinking, one of the highlights of the event.

Photo of glid02
4.23/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle at Monk's Cafe, brought up from the cellar by Tom.

Pours a slightly hazy pinkish-ruby red color with a 1.5-finger whitish-pink head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of tart berries with moderate amounts of funk and lighter amounts of oak.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Very tart berry flavors kick things off and are joined by hints of lactic sourness. Midway through the sip the berry flavors fade a bit, tempered by tannins from the oak. Right before a crisp and very tart ending solid amounts of funk come into play.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with active carbonation.

Drinkability is also good. I finished my glass without any problems and could have another.

Overall I was expecting more from this beer. It looks great and tastes just as good but it's lacking some refinement. There's a lot of complexity but the layers seem to overlap rather than fit into their own spaces. Still, if it weren't for my high expectations I would be very pleased with this beer and it's still worth a shot.

Photo of pwoods
4.55/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to doggnate for sharing the bottle.

A: Pours a tangerine orangish color. Moderate head with some lacing.

S: Nice tart fruitiness. Bit of funk. Some oakiness and leathery notes.

T/M: Nice sour and tart flavors. Fruitiness and nice vinous grapes notes. Vey dry and pretty puckering. Oak is very light but the dryness furthers the leather. Good carbonation.

D: Tasty ass beer. Very dry and complex.

Photo of augustgarage
4.65/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I'm not usually one for "landmark" reviews, but I notice that this is my 100th review of a beer on-tap...

Served in a 10oz nonic at Blue Palms Brewhouse. The keg was very fresh and had just finished chilling when I got my glass.

Opaque cerise body is suffused with ruby almost neon beer. A dense magnolia head is pasted over the surface and leaves no room for complaints about carbonation.

The acidity is palpable from across the bar - a bit of funk comes out in the nose as well suggesting Brett. and a variety of sour fermenting fruit.

Bracing sourness on the palate surpassing my expectations - along with a distinctive undercurrent that is very difficult to describe (I can't identify an analog for this flavor), possibly from the choice of yeast coming together with other micro-organisms. A lactic tartness is combined with a hint of unripe wild strawberry and a singular mixture of almost kombucha-like fungal/bacterial elements. The sourness and funk seem to unfurl exponentially as the beer warms. There is fruit throughout, but it isn't easily identifiable, and is likely derived more from the character of Cabernet franc grapes than from any actual berries, plums, etc. The oak adds a very delicate flavor as well, suggesting sweet wood, but otherwise gets out of the way.

Faintly tannic, but otherwise smooth medium-light bodied, and well carbonated (but not overly so).

Maybe not quite on par with Supplication for an all-round beer drinker, but for a sour lover, this is as easy to imbibe as it is difficult to exceptional ale, well worth seeking out.

Photo of SpeedwayJim
4.21/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A bit of a story with this one. First, never open a corked and caged bottle while looking down on it. Veritas 007 almost took out my right eye. Second, Ineedabeerhere (Joe) brought a different version of this beer to our tasting. For confidentiality sake, I won't say how he got it but suffice to say, it was very different and I'll be mentioning it in this review at points. Lets call it Feritas007 for those purposes. (The different between the two, BTW, is that Feritas 007 is UNBLENDED. It comes from only 1 barrel). So... Thanks to zestar for the great trade!Shared by me and Joe. Opened at a tasting 5/29/10. 4oz. pour from a 750ml corked and caged bottle into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a .5 finger whitish-pink head with surprisingly good retention. Beer is a cloudy grapefruit. Lacing is patchy, stringy, white, and with great retention. Feritas 007 looks the same but brew is a deeper, more lively red. Same great head and lacing. Also a 5.0

S: Funk, wood, sweet and sour grapes, Syrup, big and abrasive acetic acid, and small hints of citrus. Feritas 007 is sweeter with much more noticeable grape and red fruit flavors. Acidity is not as apparent. Would be a 4.5

T: Sour acetic acid is so strong it threatens to blow my socks off (along with my eye). Tartness comes through just as the acidity subsides. Grapefruit and big citrus notes. Gets more and more sour as it sits in my mouth. Spicy right before the finish with an aftertaste of tartness that leaves me salivating. Feritas 007 is much less acidic, more balance, with the same complexity and a bit more sweetness. A 5.

M: Light to medium bodied, again, great carbonation that leads to a very lively mouth. Dry at the finish with a slightly messy aftertaste. Little difference in the versions here.

D: Off the bat, let me say that Feritas 007 is the better of the two. However, that's not to take away from the masterpiece that is this beer. Only going to get better with time as it mellows out, this one definitely needs and deserves a revisit down the road. I can't wait!

Photo of hooliganlife
4.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

BIG BIG thanks to beachrez for this.

pours a faint purple, almost rose colored. light red grape juice.

very tart, sour, puckering grape with ripe cheese. light oak.

light grape, starts off faint and grows. towards the finish it becomes very bright then blends with the dank dry oak. some light cheese and funk, but very sour and mouth puckering. a bit sweet tart like at times.

perfect carbonation IMO, dry oak finish that makes leaves your mouth just aching for water.

i detect a hint of isabelle but overall, very cantillon lamvinus like. very enjoyable!

Photo of nickd717
4.2/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Toronado Lost Abbey night. largadeer beat me to adding this one on BA and iowaherkeye beat me on RB. Damn. That is a real bummer.

Amazing mostly clear deep fire engine red color with minimal head.

Aroma is sour cherries, funk, red wine, and maybe some slight acetone/nail polish.

Flavor is really damn sour, but great. Tart cherries, funk, red wine, and acid - the corrosive kind, not the hallucinogenic kind. If only...

Really acidic on the palate with medium body and average carbonation.

Drinkability is pretty good. Great beer overall, hell of a deal at $5 for a large pour.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.89/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Deep hazy orange with no head. A few bubbles and a thin collar. Not a lot else going on.

Smell - Citrus acidity and some grape/white wine like fruits. Oak.

Taste - Quite sour. Light fruits surround the sourness. Some malts. A bit of acetic acid and oak in the finish.

Mouthfeel - Medium body. Oaky and dry. Low carbonation.

Overall - This has probably lost a lot of complexity over the years. Pretty good right now though.

Photo of thagr81us
4.65/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Massive thanks goes out to beeruser for sharing this one with myself and funkydelic during one of our weekly tastings! A massive want of mine... Served from bottle into a Mikkeller flute. Poured a deep orange with a minimal white head. Maintained decent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, sour, tart, BIG funk, and fruit. The flavor was of sweet malt, sour, tart, massive funk, grapes, and wood. It had a medium feel on the palate with high carbonation. Overall this brew was effing excellent. How good you might ask??? I could do a line of this... No seriously, there is a picture of this. This was one of the best brews that I had tasted at the time when I had it. However I have gotten to try better brews now. This one was also at another tasting and was a big hit there as well. Definitely worth the effort on tracking this one down as the flavor is very nice and complex. A definite must try if you have not before, and if you have, you already know why I'm saying this...

Photo of SpdKilz
4.6/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Yet another amazing beer shared by Sean9689 at Zwanze Day 2011. Another of my top wants/ticks (and after I had this beer I got my hands on one).

Appearance – Pours into a Cantillon tulip with a tangerine hue. About a half finger of white head fizzes up and leaves slight lacing.

Smell – Having Beatification right before this, the aroma for this beer is more balanced. Dry barnyard funk, ripe granny smith green apples, oak, lemons, just a hint of vinegar, and more earthy tones.

Taste – As with the aroma, very balanced. While Beatification was a punch yourself in the face sour, this was more refined. Wonderful dry acidic qualities, strawberries, lemon, and oak. Slight wine-like qualities with tannic attributes, lactic sourness, and again finishes with a nice wet hay barnyard funk. Spectacular. Mouth puckering but also slightly sweet and flavorful. Extremely composed.

Mouthfeel – Medium to lighter bodied, plentiful carbonation, finishes wonderfully tart and dry like champagne.

Overall – A spectacular beer from Tomme. Until recently I was not able to try many of the “rarer” beers that Tomme has created. I was on the train that ripped on him because of carbonation issues, etc. But I will admit after having a few recent spectacular experiences my view of him has changed a bit (granted all these experiences were beers that were made a couple years ago when I suppose LA was in its prime – we shall see what comes). Highly recommended.

Photo of hoppymcgee
4.05/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to SpeedwayJim for bringing this to a tasting on 5/29/10. Poured approx. 4oz. from a 750ml bottle into a small snifter.

Feritas 007 (see SpeedwayJim's review below for explanation):

A: Fire truck red, effervescent.

S: Wet hay. I can almost smell the acidity in this beer too.

T: Sour cherries, crisp lemon, and mulled raspberries make for a palate pleaser.

M: Dry and puckering.

D: A "sharp" beer that one must sip to enjoy.

Veritas 007:

A: Ruby red with sediment present and lots of carbonation.

S: It's a peach of an afternoon.

T: Grapefruits and raspberries blend together for an acetic feel.

M: Acidic and almost pulpy due to the sediment in the bottle. I preferred the Feritas 007 because of this.

D: A "sharp" beer that one must sip to enjoy. I can't wait to see how this beer develops over time.

Overall, a unique experience to have the unblended version versus the blended version side-by-side. Huge thanks to Ineedabeerhere for coming up with the Feritas!

Photo of jegross2
4.5/5  rDev -0.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Reviewing the infamous Veritas 007 from The Lost Abbey out of San Marcos, California.

Score: 95

2010 vintage bottle served in a stemmed Cantillon flute and enjoyed on 04/26/14. Review is from iPhone notes.

Appearance: Pours a translucent, vibrant orange color with a finger of fizzy white head that settles to a thin layer. 4.75/5

Smell: Fruit, grape, vinegar and lemon. Light must and funk. 4.5/5

Taste: Tastes just like it smells. Musty, tart grape, a little lemon and a light vinegar character without any big acidic bite. A little grapefruit too and a kiss of oak. 4.5/5

Mouthfeel: Medium carbonation, light bodied -- both appropriate for the style and flavor profile. Has a nice dryness and acidity that help accentuate the tartness, though this beer is not as puckering as an Upland sour. 4.5/5

Overall: Was expecting more funk, but this beer pleasantly under-delivered on the funk character. This was one of my favorite beers from the Veritas series that I have had the opportunity to sample.

Cost: $250 for a 750 ml bottle (secondary market price).

Photo of mikesgroove
4.47/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The pour was decent. A light pink in color with a huge head of white that came up over the top to a height of around an inch before dropping back down to earth with little in the way of lacing. Aroma was wonderful though. Nice touches of raspberries, hints of light cherry and a touch of sour apples as well. Really quite nice, and very light and refreshing. Smooth and light flavor here as well. Not especially sour, but people need to realize a wild ale does not need to be sour. Anyway. Cherries and Raspberries dominate here, light touches of grape skin, apples and a smooth, and light sugary note to it as well. Light feel and nice prickly carbonation give it an almost champagne like feel, but the drinkability remains very high.

Photo of largadeer
4.3/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Edit: This was very good from the bottle, superior to the draft version in all regards.

Draft at Toronado for Lost Abbey and Port Brewing night. Served in a 13 oz tulip, 007 is a bright pinkish-purple topped by a half-inch of white froth with a slightly pink tint. The aroma is vinous and fruity, backed by sharp lactic sourness and a hint of sweaty funk that comes out more as it warms up. The base beer is allegedly Isabelle Proximus, but the addition of cabernet franc grapes has covered up much of that beer's unique funkiness. Puckering sourness and tart grapes are first to hit the palate, with flavors of dry red wine trailing behind. Not a ton of complexity here, the fruit is dominant and the lactic sourness a little overwhelming. The finish is tart and lemony, not as dry or tannic as I'd like. A little more tannin from the barrel would have helped balance the sourness and fruit, but it's very good as-is.

Photo of Proteus93
4.5/5  rDev -0.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Another one brought in by Bankhead... thanks again, Henry!

A: Rather unusual hue... salmon would best describe it. I think the colour was agreed upon around the table.

S: A full on strawberry-like fruit scent, along with a funkiness and hay aroma. Slighty peppery, some hay, and a vinous qualty.

T + M: Prickly, tart, a fruitiness somewhere between berry and grape. Salty, funky, and a sour not like straight-on vinegar... cleaner and sweeter. Some little hints of tropical work into there. The carbonation is sharp and assertive, but not over-done.

D: I don't think I'd call it 'elegant,' but it's certainly complex and delicious. Exquisite... exquisite will do. Nicely done.

Photo of vacax
4.47/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Enjoyed a half full glass of this at the release party when the keg tapped out in front of me about five minutes into the event. Pours a cloudish red or purple with a pinkish head. The aroma is of red grapes, berries, especially raspberries, fairly authentic aroma of Belgian funk, though maybe a bit high on the sulfur element, but very nice. The flavor comes as waves of wild funk, reminiscent of Belgian lambic with wine grapes, very dry with a bit of corn cereal, sweet berries, and acid. Feel is light with lower carbonation but it feels well rounded, full yet soft on the palate, quite tart as well. I had a small taste of Veritas 005 which inspired 007, and neither let me down.

Photo of oline73
3.58/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Another bottle opened up at the DC Lost Abbey tasting. Poured from the bottle into a tasting snifter.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy ruby red color with a ring of off white head.

Smell: This beer smells very tart and funky with some fruity notes showing up in the background. Rather mild.

Taste: The flavor is much stronger than the smell was. Vinegar sourness with some funk. Grape flavor compliments the sour notes rather well. Not as fruity as the 005. The sour finish borderlines on harsh.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with light and foamy carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: I liked the 005 better, but this was still a solid brew. If it was a bit less abrasive, it would be nicer.

Photo of ChrisPro
4.63/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Drank somewhere during June 2010.

Pours a muted hazy pinkish gold with big fluffy head. Nice lacing on this bad boy.

Aroma was an incredible juxtaposition of grape, lemon, grapefruit and some vanilla and oak with just a hint of barnyard.

The taste was out of this world. So incredibly balanced between the rich fruitiness of the grapes balanced with a ton of lactic sourness and a slightly sweet finish, not leaving your mouth puckering. Only got better as it warmed.

Good carb and light mouthfeel. Sickeningly drinkable.

Photo of rfgetz
4.6/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a reddish tinted orangy gold color with a puff of prickly white foam leaving excellent lacing. Smell is of bold, young white wine with delicate layers of funk, fruit, wood, earth, grain. First sip is tremendously sour with bold tart fruit like raspberry, wine grapes, grapefruit. Mellows, but never sweetnes, perfect layers of wild yeast and bacteria. Bright and spritzy on the palate, nice medium body, dry finnish. I truly amazing beer.

Photo of psiweaver
5/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

A: a great light red color. almost no head. the Cabernet Franc grapes clearly assert their color on the glass.

S: amazing crisp grapes, sour, citrus smell. intense smell and you just want to drink it up.

T: amazing complex taste. incredible fruit and lusciousness. very tasty, incredibly delicious.

M: very smoothly and yet sour and biting. dances all over your tongue.

D:very easy to drink while still be very complex, sour and fruity and with a nice brown ale backing.

Had this at the Lost Abbey Release, just got around to writing this out from notes. Had it out of a pint glass.

Photo of Thorpe429
4.72/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A: Pours a really beautiful slightly off-pink color with some darker, orange-amber hues. Nice white head and a very good amount of lacing.

S: Loads of fruit with a good amount of tartness. Nice berry and red grape characteristics.

T: Much like the nose, but more intense with a great amount of acidity. Berries, grapes, and hints of plum.

M: Very dry with a good level of acidity. At points, perhaps not as acidic as it should be to stand up to the fruit.

D: Very, very good. One of the best sours that I have ever had. At least on this side of the Atlantic, no one does a fruit sour quite like Lost Abbey.

Photo of AgentZero
4.5/5  rDev -0.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Pinkish colored beer with a bit of orange in there. Appropriate white head on it that left some good lace and stick on the sides of the glass.

S - Nice tartness with some grape and fruit aromas. Really can't complain about this, tartness is spot on and the fruit helps to add a touch of needed sweetness.

T - Nice beries, grapes and a wonderful tartness. There's a nice acidity to this with helps to add to the pucker factor of this beer.

M - Pretty light, good carbonation, very dry.

O - Very sour great taste. If you like sours this is a hell of a beer that I'd love to try again.

Photo of waltonc
4.37/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Got to try this at the CO sour tasting last weekend. Pours copper/pink with big white head. Smells extremely acidic, with notes of various fruits blended together. Taste is extremely sour, with tart fruit - lemon, apple, grapes dominating. Some funk in here, but it's restrained. This actually reminds me a bit of Veritas 006. Body is medium with prickling high carbonation. Another great entry in the Veritas series.

Photo of sweemzander
4.82/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL corked and caged bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a pale blush orange color with some nice white foam and bubbles.

(S)- A nice dry funk and sour profile. Acidic and sour with subtle fruits. Just a sexy earthy lactic funk and acidity.

(T)- Sour power! This is a powerhouse of acidity and sour fruits. A nice earthy clay and lactic funk to it. This is what I like to see!

(M)- A crisp carbonation level. Sourness is on the extreme, but oh so wonderful! Acidic and lactic funk.

(D)- Perhaps one of the most sour beers I have ever had in recent memory. A great wild with that sourness able to peel paint. So good though.

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Veritas 007 from The Lost Abbey
99 out of 100 based on 153 ratings.