Veritas 007 - The Lost Abbey

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Ratings: 150
Reviews: 71
rAvg: 4.52
pDev: 7.52%
Wants: 316
Gots: 30 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: largadeer on 02-08-2010)
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3.5/5  rDev -22.6%

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3.5/5  rDev -22.6%

Photo of oline73
3.58/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Another bottle opened up at the DC Lost Abbey tasting. Poured from the bottle into a tasting snifter.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy ruby red color with a ring of off white head.

Smell: This beer smells very tart and funky with some fruity notes showing up in the background. Rather mild.

Taste: The flavor is much stronger than the smell was. Vinegar sourness with some funk. Grape flavor compliments the sour notes rather well. Not as fruity as the 005. The sour finish borderlines on harsh.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with light and foamy carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: I liked the 005 better, but this was still a solid brew. If it was a bit less abrasive, it would be nicer.

Photo of DefenCorps
3.68/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks, Devin!

A hazy pink with a dense, white head that rises briefly before falling off to a ring, this looks pretty good. The nose is quite excellent. The grapes are quite noticeable with a ripe, fruity, berry-like bouquet. Quite integrated with the sourness too, there's a blend of oak, lemon rinds, a little acetic and a moderate lactic sourness. The palate opens super sharp and sour, so intense that I can't take too big a sip. Fruity, dry, moderately grape-like, this is doesn't have the vinous quality a beer like Vigneronne has (especially in its youth). Moderately and with plenty of lemon rind bitterness and sourness on the finish, this is a little too aggressive for my liking. Unbalanced in that the the sourness doesn't tie things together, it is merely an end in itself. It is also over-carbonated, and doesn't seem to be particularly well-structured or conditioned. Still, decent and enjoyable.

**Edit 01 July 2012**
Thanks, Matt. This blend has grown to be increasingly nasty every time I've had this, and the trend continues. Tastes sour with a moderate grape character, poor structure and flavors. Disappointing.

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3.75/5  rDev -17%

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3.75/5  rDev -17%

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3.75/5  rDev -17%

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.9/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Deep hazy orange with no head. A few bubbles and a thin collar. Not a lot else going on.

Smell - Citrus acidity and some grape/white wine like fruits. Oak.

Taste - Quite sour. Light fruits surround the sourness. Some malts. A bit of acetic acid and oak in the finish.

Mouthfeel - Medium body. Oaky and dry. Low carbonation.

Overall - This has probably lost a lot of complexity over the years. Pretty good right now though.

Photo of scottfrie
3.98/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks for sharing Brian! Snifter.

A: Light apricot color with a fair amount of fine sediment fill my glass beneath a short lived white head.
S: Very fruity nose, golden fruits, stone fruits, vinous, slight vinegar and biting acid.
T: Clean acid, citrus, strong stone fruits are strong along with white wine and vinous grapes.
M: Very frothy carb that bubbles up in my mouth. Light body, acidic but relatively smooth mouthfeel.
O: A very solid sour, fruity, and easy to drink. A little chunky, but that’s ok. Careful, this one is definitely carbonated.

Photo of ygtbsm94
4/5  rDev -11.5%

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4/5  rDev -11.5%

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4/5  rDev -11.5%

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4/5  rDev -11.5%

Photo of hoppymcgee
4.03/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to SpeedwayJim for bringing this to a tasting on 5/29/10. Poured approx. 4oz. from a 750ml bottle into a small snifter.

Feritas 007 (see SpeedwayJim's review below for explanation):

A: Fire truck red, effervescent.

S: Wet hay. I can almost smell the acidity in this beer too.

T: Sour cherries, crisp lemon, and mulled raspberries make for a palate pleaser.

M: Dry and puckering.

D: A "sharp" beer that one must sip to enjoy.

Veritas 007:

A: Ruby red with sediment present and lots of carbonation.

S: It's a peach of an afternoon.

T: Grapefruits and raspberries blend together for an acetic feel.

M: Acidic and almost pulpy due to the sediment in the bottle. I preferred the Feritas 007 because of this.

D: A "sharp" beer that one must sip to enjoy. I can't wait to see how this beer develops over time.

Overall, a unique experience to have the unblended version versus the blended version side-by-side. Huge thanks to Ineedabeerhere for coming up with the Feritas!

Photo of craytonic
4.1/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Nicely carbonated (they always do a great job on the veritas series, as opposed to their regular offerings), pour is a bloody pink with prickly carbonation, pink-purple dinosaur head of about 1/3 of an inch.

Aroma: Vinous with tart cherries and funk, backed by an incredibly sour backbone. Of Veritas 001-007, this may be the most sour. I have no idea why they used cab franc grapes, they are in the russian river valley, south of Sonoma and west of Napa. I was just there and this is a great time to be buying grapes, not sure why they didn't choose something a bit more... worthy.

Taste: Incredibly sour and tart, lemon vinegar with less-than-stellar red wine, tart cherries, and funk; this is good but could have been better.

Mouthfeel: Prickly carbonation, a bit thin.

Drinkability: Going down well so far, but it the sourness could halt mere mortals I suppose. Taste really sticks with you, I could taste this all day the next day and had a horrible case of beer morning breath the next morning (possibly the worst ever, after lambicus dexterius).

Photo of CrellMoset
4.13/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 mL corked and caged bottle (duh), courtesy of Bankhead - thanks! - at the Charlottesville Throwdown #3. Split several ways and poured in to a tulip.

Appearance: Pours a peachy salmon, hazy at the center, and with a good contingent of lil' yeasty fellas chillin' as well as occasional rapidly-rising bubble that clings to the side for as long as it can before - zoom! - shooting up the rim of the tulip. An amazing amount of lacing manages to cling to the sides of this glass - sticky, streaky, like galactic arms streaming along the sides of the glass, arching and dancing above a surface full of fuzzy, nearly snow white surface lacing and a dense but foamy collar.

Aroma: Tons of cabernet franc grapes, which contribute an absolute slew of great fruity notes, mainly heavier - peach, light stone fruit, and hints of lighter, estery tropical fruit. The funk comes across as overwhelmingly parmesan reggiano to me - sort of a bright, crisp, hay-like funk kiss, with a slight amount of nuttiness. Nice.

Taste: Wow. Beautiful, but intense. Tons of acidity absolutely coats the tongue, but can't hide a slew of tannic notes, grape skin, celery seed, peaches, and dark tropical fruits. A nice underlying base beer - slight amounts of roast, but mostly crisp and golden honey malts, complimenting all that acidity and far less funky nuttiness than was in the nose.

Mouthfeel: Moderately well-carbonated, and pretty even, though with a hint of unevenness at points. The unevenness increases as this one sits, unfortunately, which results in the acidity sort of hitting me at an odd angle, if that makes sense. Not bad, though, but process always is Lost Abbey's difficulty, isn't it?

Drinkability: A great beer, very original, very intense, very west coast, and very enjoyable - if you like fruity acid bombs, this sour's for you. The grape addition adds a lot to this one, but the base beer and ancillary yeast notes are great too. At 7% or so (according to the other site), this one's fairly drinkable too, and was a good introduction to the Veritas series for me. Many thanks to Bankhead!

Photo of popery
4.14/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Lots of wood, fruit and soured malt flavors. I guess I was expecting some kind of religious experience from my first taste (might have tried one other awhile back) of a Veritas, and it didn’t quite live up to that. Still, it was a very nice sour. The sour was pronounced and went well with the malt notes. Blackberries, oak, citrus rind, wine, restrained funk. I might appreciate this one more with a larger taste. Finishes with a pucker. Quite dry and probably getting drier. Pours a hazy, fading red. Little to no head, and what was there dissipated quickly. Very good stuff.

Photo of Jwale73
4.15/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Broken out at our epic LA tasting on 5/7/11 (can't remember who brought this one). Served in a Sinners tulip. Pours a lovely pinkish-orange - no head, just a thin tight band around the shoulders. Nose starts off mild - slightly acidic, a little musty and expresses a trace of horse blanket. As the brew warms, it takes on a slightly medicinal quality and there's a hint of manure and a slightly plasticy character. Taste is salty, tart, and citrusy - it's really hard to tease out all the flavors, but it's pleasantly sour with a trace of cork that comes out towards the back. Mouthfeel is light in body with a lively effervescing carbonation that stimulates the salivary glands along the sides of the cheeks (I can't stop from salivating). There's a residual dryness that lingers at the back of the throat in between quaffs. All and all, a very complex and tasty sour somewhat reminiscent of something from Cantillon. A pretty top notch American Wild I have to say.

Photo of SpeedwayJim
4.2/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A bit of a story with this one. First, never open a corked and caged bottle while looking down on it. Veritas 007 almost took out my right eye. Second, Ineedabeerhere (Joe) brought a different version of this beer to our tasting. For confidentiality sake, I won't say how he got it but suffice to say, it was very different and I'll be mentioning it in this review at points. Lets call it Feritas007 for those purposes. (The different between the two, BTW, is that Feritas 007 is UNBLENDED. It comes from only 1 barrel). So... Thanks to zestar for the great trade!Shared by me and Joe. Opened at a tasting 5/29/10. 4oz. pour from a 750ml corked and caged bottle into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a .5 finger whitish-pink head with surprisingly good retention. Beer is a cloudy grapefruit. Lacing is patchy, stringy, white, and with great retention. Feritas 007 looks the same but brew is a deeper, more lively red. Same great head and lacing. Also a 5.0

S: Funk, wood, sweet and sour grapes, Syrup, big and abrasive acetic acid, and small hints of citrus. Feritas 007 is sweeter with much more noticeable grape and red fruit flavors. Acidity is not as apparent. Would be a 4.5

T: Sour acetic acid is so strong it threatens to blow my socks off (along with my eye). Tartness comes through just as the acidity subsides. Grapefruit and big citrus notes. Gets more and more sour as it sits in my mouth. Spicy right before the finish with an aftertaste of tartness that leaves me salivating. Feritas 007 is much less acidic, more balance, with the same complexity and a bit more sweetness. A 5.

M: Light to medium bodied, again, great carbonation that leads to a very lively mouth. Dry at the finish with a slightly messy aftertaste. Little difference in the versions here.

D: Off the bat, let me say that Feritas 007 is the better of the two. However, that's not to take away from the masterpiece that is this beer. Only going to get better with time as it mellows out, this one definitely needs and deserves a revisit down the road. I can't wait!

Photo of Sean9689
4.2/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Another bottle opened by me with Alex (Masterski), a friend from StL, and Kan (pantanap on RB). Split into tasting glasses. Popped open with a small amount of gush to it and once initially poured, the bubbles really came out in force. Be careful here.

A - Pours purple/red/pink, off-white fizzy champagne-esk bubbles, and some good lacing along the sides of the glass. The head eventually settles down to a thin cap on top with a few bubbles along the side of the glass here and there. Blabaer-looking, but purple and pink instead of blue.

S - Sour grapes, funky barnyard, lactic acetic, grapefruit. I really liked where this was heading, but thought some more time in the bottle would do it some good.

T - Sour, tart, lemons, funk, grapes, barrel. Really funky and tart, wow! This one doesn't play much here...hints of an Isabelle-like funk.

M - Light, dry, crisp, champagne-esk.

D - I finished my sample easily and probably could have consumed the entire bottle myself if I wasn't splitting this one four ways. I really enjoyed it and glad I have more!

Photo of ptykozoon
4.21/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours an immensely beautiful golden sap color. Glowing candy orange in the light. Head dissipates fast with islands of foam and a ring of lacing. One of the prettiest beers I've ever seen actually.

Smell is pungent sour grape with citrus, cherry, strawberry undertones.

Taste is not quite as dramatic as the smell, but very good nonetheless. The aforementioned smells along with lemon sourness make this quite an exceptional drink.

Dry, bubbly mouthfeel. Very good.

A beautiful, aromatic, tasty beer with decent complexity and a refreshing finish make this a worthy adversary to the best sours out there.

Photo of nickd717
4.22/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Toronado Lost Abbey night. largadeer beat me to adding this one on BA and iowaherkeye beat me on RB. Damn. That is a real bummer.

Amazing mostly clear deep fire engine red color with minimal head.

Aroma is sour cherries, funk, red wine, and maybe some slight acetone/nail polish.

Flavor is really damn sour, but great. Tart cherries, funk, red wine, and acid - the corrosive kind, not the hallucinogenic kind. If only...

Really acidic on the palate with medium body and average carbonation.

Drinkability is pretty good. Great beer overall, hell of a deal at $5 for a large pour.

Photo of Overlord
4.22/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks to hophead84!

Apricot pink. Half an inch of white sudsy foam. Insane chunks/white sediment. Laces the glass.

Surprisingly muted aroma, though a whiff from a large saucer-ish chalice did produce more odors. Some sour vinous and/or unripe apple with oak.

Taste is more robust. Huge surprisingly blast of vinous grape skins mixed with forlorn sadness, oak, unripe lemon and apple, funk, and a BIG Isabelle Proximus style lemon sandblast finish. This is far heavier on the sour lemon/grapeskins than I expected. Thought it would be more fruit forward, but it's really quite the sour bomb.

Nicely carbonated with a well suited mouthfeel. Thanks again!

Photo of jethrodium
4.23/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at City Beer Store. Pours a pinkish amber with no head, just a couple of bubbles at the edge of the glass. The aroma has a lot of funky brett, with some lemon, raspberry, grape skin, some lactic, cherry, and a bit of oak. The taste is quite tart with lemon, raspberry, a lot of funky brett, and some grape skin. The finish is dry, oaky, and funky with a decent amount of astringency. Light body with low carbonation. It could have used more carbonation, but it was still quite a great beer.

Photo of starrdogg
4.23/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thank you to me for contributing this to the Lost Abbey tasting.

Pours a hazy golden/blond color with a thin white head. The aroma here is very subtle, it's nice - a great sour smell with some red wine grapes, but I wish there was more going on. Flavor is quite nice here, it's very sour with a little bit of red wine grape flavor, but the oak plays a prominent role as well. Generally it's a great blond sour, but there's not as much going on here as I had hoped. Mouthfeel is light-medium bodied with nice carbonation and a prickly sour feel. Overall, considering expectations vs. pay-off, this might be the most disappointing of the entire Lost Abbey tasting. It's a good sour, but this one didn't have any real standout characteristics here.

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Veritas 007 from The Lost Abbey
99 out of 100 based on 150 ratings.