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Veritas 007 - The Lost Abbey

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Ratings: 150
Reviews: 71
rAvg: 4.52
pDev: 7.52%
Wants: 316
Gots: 30 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: largadeer on 02-08-2010)
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Photo of Thorpe429
4.7/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A: Pours a really beautiful slightly off-pink color with some darker, orange-amber hues. Nice white head and a very good amount of lacing.

S: Loads of fruit with a good amount of tartness. Nice berry and red grape characteristics.

T: Much like the nose, but more intense with a great amount of acidity. Berries, grapes, and hints of plum.

M: Very dry with a good level of acidity. At points, perhaps not as acidic as it should be to stand up to the fruit.

D: Very, very good. One of the best sours that I have ever had. At least on this side of the Atlantic, no one does a fruit sour quite like Lost Abbey.

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4.47/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The pour was decent. A light pink in color with a huge head of white that came up over the top to a height of around an inch before dropping back down to earth with little in the way of lacing. Aroma was wonderful though. Nice touches of raspberries, hints of light cherry and a touch of sour apples as well. Really quite nice, and very light and refreshing. Smooth and light flavor here as well. Not especially sour, but people need to realize a wild ale does not need to be sour. Anyway. Cherries and Raspberries dominate here, light touches of grape skin, apples and a smooth, and light sugary note to it as well. Light feel and nice prickly carbonation give it an almost champagne like feel, but the drinkability remains very high.

Photo of womencantsail
4.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

An appropriate review #700. Whales, baby, whales!

A: The pour is a cloudy pinkish color with almost no head.

S: A surprising amount of grapefruit--rind and fruit, which provides much of the tartness. The grapes certainly provide a musty and lightly funky aroma.

T: The sourness is primarily in form of grapefruit (which is odd given the beer has Cabernet Franc grapes added) and is really pungent and almost tongue buckling. There is a light bitterness that was unexpected but pleasant and a nice contrast to the sour and fruit flavors. The beer is not overly funky, but a nice dryness from the oak, fruit, and brett.

M: A fairly light beer on the tongue with a very prickly carbonation (which really enhances the acidity) and a dry finish.

D: A highly refreshing, though intense sour, beer. I was unprepared for the intense, though unexpected, grapefruit flavor but found it to be just wonderful.

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4.5/5  rDev -0.4%

Photo of largadeer
4.3/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Edit: This was very good from the bottle, superior to the draft version in all regards.

Draft at Toronado for Lost Abbey and Port Brewing night. Served in a 13 oz tulip, 007 is a bright pinkish-purple topped by a half-inch of white froth with a slightly pink tint. The aroma is vinous and fruity, backed by sharp lactic sourness and a hint of sweaty funk that comes out more as it warms up. The base beer is allegedly Isabelle Proximus, but the addition of cabernet franc grapes has covered up much of that beer's unique funkiness. Puckering sourness and tart grapes are first to hit the palate, with flavors of dry red wine trailing behind. Not a ton of complexity here, the fruit is dominant and the lactic sourness a little overwhelming. The finish is tart and lemony, not as dry or tannic as I'd like. A little more tannin from the barrel would have helped balance the sourness and fruit, but it's very good as-is.

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4.75/5  rDev +5.1%

Photo of oline73
3.58/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Another bottle opened up at the DC Lost Abbey tasting. Poured from the bottle into a tasting snifter.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy ruby red color with a ring of off white head.

Smell: This beer smells very tart and funky with some fruity notes showing up in the background. Rather mild.

Taste: The flavor is much stronger than the smell was. Vinegar sourness with some funk. Grape flavor compliments the sour notes rather well. Not as fruity as the 005. The sour finish borderlines on harsh.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with light and foamy carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: I liked the 005 better, but this was still a solid brew. If it was a bit less abrasive, it would be nicer.

Photo of MasterSki
4.4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to Sean for opening this up during our impromptu New Beer Friday. Served in a Sam Adams taster pint glass. This was a slow gusher, so don't leave it unattended.

A - Looks like grapefruit juice, with a slightly hazy pinkish-red body, topped by a finger of eggshell foam. Retention is quite good, with the head eventually settling to a thin cap. There are some tiny splotches of lacework left behind. Subsequent pours are milkier, with more sediment and dregs.

S - The initial nose is full of grape skins and vinous notes, but as it warms more of the funky Isabelle comes out to play. Plenty of barnyard, diaper, horse blanket, mingling with lemons and light acetic acid. There are some barrel notes, with some char and plastic flavors that are slightly off-putting.

T - Wow, this is sour! Lots of tart under ripe fruits - raspberry, grape, apple, grapefruit, and lemon. Bracingly tart and sour, with plenty of lactic and pediococcus character, and without a ton of sweetness. I actually like the flavor better than the nose, as it does away with the overly harsh barrel notes.

M - Super dry and tannic finish, light refreshing body, spritzy carbonation. Pretty satisfying and appropriate for style. The Lost Abbey sour beers seem to suffer none of the carbonation problems afflicting their other brews.

D - Even with the extreme sour and dry character this is super easy-to-drink and refreshing. Sharing it four ways meant only getting 6oz of this fine beverage - hopefully I get another crack at it.

Photo of drabmuh
4.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Beer is golden and mildly hazy with a thin head that disappears quickly leaving a halo of bubbles at the edge of the glass, minimal lacing.

Beer has a strong grape aroma with some acetic and lactic sourness. The primary winner here is grapes.

Beer is thin and nicely carbonated on the palate. It tastes really nice. Again, there is ALMOST too much fruit in here, its not overpowering but its really fruit forward. I really like this beer. Its a nice sour beer. I'd have more, if that were possible.

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4.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

From 07/24/10 notes.

a - Pours a murky pinkish orange color with an inch of white head and light carbonation.

s - Smells of tart, sour dark fruits, grapes, wine, and a little bit of funkiness.

t - Tastes of grapes, berries, and sour dark fruits. Some wine and funkiness to it. Very well balanced and enjoyable.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation.

d - A very enjoyable sour from Lost Abbey. I really enjoyed the smell and taste and if you like sour dark fruits you'll probably love this one. Would like to try again, as well as the other Veritas beers.

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4.25/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The beer is a slow gusher that is easy to keep on top of. A steady pour into my large Tripel Karmeliet tulip produces a three finger thick, largish bubbled, pale, off-white colored head. As the head slowly subsides it leaves some layered lacing patterns on the sides of my glass. The beer is a murky amber hue (with some chunks apparent) that shows a very chunky, pink / pale-amber color when held up to the light. The aroma smells of very tart berries and spicy / woody oak from afar. A closer inspection has me noticing notes of blackberries, perhaps a touch of tart cherry, a solid lactic sourness and some fruity acidity too, all of these up front. Towards the finish of the nose there is a solid oak structure that contributes aromas of dusty wood shavings, a touch of vanillin, some Bourbon-like oak spiciness, as well as a mellow oak character. Funky aromatics of musty clay, a hint of musky animal B.O., a hint of underlying overly ripe farmhouse cheese, moldy mushroom aromatics and even a hint of urea. After a particular intense round with the nose signature Brettanomyces notes really start to come out; full on butyric acid musk / goat character, phenolic soaked cotton-balls and sweat-dried cured leather notes add a complexity, though underlying and dank quality to this beer's aroma.

A very prickly carbonation couples with a bracing sourness that is mostly huge-lactic, but also has a sharp, acetic edge to it; the combination of the carbonation and the sourness make my mouth pucker up quite well during my first sip. My seconds sip isn't quite so mouth puckering, but the ample oak-influence also tends to accentuate this with an astringent, tannic, raw woodiness that isn't too over-the-top. The oak definitely plays a secondary role to the acidity here, but it is easily the second most noticeable flavor. By contrast the grapes and base beer play a much, much more subdued role than either of these two flavors. After some time the sourness couples with other notes to bring out some flavors of raspberries, some Chardonnay like grape character (the oak seems to bring this out a bit). Spicy, peppery, woody oak notes add some bite to the finish that serves the hop role of a more traditional beer. With the generic 8%abv label that the Veritas beers get stuck with it is hard to know how strong this beer actually is, while it is a sipping beer, it drinks like a light enough strong-sour, sort of a big brother to a Lambic.

My second pour of this beer sees me noticing an almost Kool-Aid-like fruitiness that has overtones of tropical fruit and a big strawberry component; strangely this is only noticeable if I smell this non-directly, as a direct snort of the nose sees me mostly noticing oak and sourness. The flavor actually picks up more fruitiness too; actually if I lick my lips after taking a sip I can even taste the strawberry flavors directly; but there is definitely more of a bright, berry fruit character (with fruit-punch or perhaps even tropical fruit overtones to it) noticeable in my second pour. The sourness and oak seems to become more balanced as well (though this might be attributable to palate fatigue, but I don't think this is entirely the case).

There is a definite sour edge to this beer that is more than Lactic acid in character, but I am not sure it is acetic acid; if it is acetic acid it is an extremely soft touch, one that works quite well here (though it might just be malic or other acid character from the grapes). I can't believe how dirty this beer looks, even leaving the beer in the bottle for 30 seconds after pouring it was enough to stir up lots of floaties and chunks into my first pour; luckily this does not seem to have affected the flavor or aroma much. The up front berry character isn't nearly as noticeable in the flavor as it is in the aroma, which is a bit of let down. In general the aroma is more complex and interesting than the flavor, but if you like sour beers this will definitely please you no matter what. It is definitely worth waiting to let this beer warm up significantly as a more expressive fruit character become noticeable, more importantly the balance and finesse of this beer improves impressively and it goes from being merely enjoyable to fantastic.

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Photo of stakem
4.47/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to CaptinRedBeard for sharing this brew on 11/13/10.

Poured into a mini snifter, veritas appears a lightly hazed peachy color. A cap of white head appears composed of fairly large bubbles that recede to a ring of bubbles around the inside of the glass. A light swirl revives the cap.

The aroma of this brew smells of funky goodness with notes of cheese and some earthy tones. A light fruitiness almost reminescent of strawberry is evident before the aroma of Brett takes over with a solid nose of wet leather. Once warm, this brew picks up indications of the woodsy oak aging.

The taste is funky with an acidic sourness. This is a bone dry offering. Big salivation factor here, it seemingly removes the moisture right from your tongue and makes you pucker. A light cheesy flavor that moves to more of a brett'd quality. After taste of fruit skins, lightly bitter with a funky and earthy quality, it's oaky and tannic.

Light in the feel with a bold amount of carbonation that really pops in the mouth. Bone dry finish with a bit of piercing oaked flavor. Despite the aggressive flavors of this brew it was a delight to drink and excessively drinkable. I never could have guessed this was 8% abv.

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4.9/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Served on draft at Monk's Cafe during the Tomme Arthur event. Listed as Duck Duck Gooze Vintage with Cab Franc Grapes.

Pours a hazy dark ruby grapefruit red color with slight pinkish hues when held to a light source and a massive three finger frothy, soap light pink head that has excellent retention, only slowly fading into a lasting cap that coats the glass with chunks of soapy lacing.

Funky tart aroma with lots of luscious dark fruit notes and earthy oak tannis. Pretty vinous but not too much with lots of grape and dark berries in the nose. Lactic cream presence and subtle funky horseblanket. But none of these notes are overpowering, resulting in a well balanced aroma with funk, tannis, vinous notes and dark fruit. I swear I can even smell the skin of the fruit.

Tart, puckering full body that is pretty creamy with lots of lactic funk, sweet dark fruit and earthy oak tannis. Nthis beer is very vinous with lots of grape and dark fruit character. Well balanced with a tart, puckering body hat isn't acidic at all. Insanely drinkable, this beer literally leaves me drooling for more. Not as sour as I expected but very complex and delicious. Highly recommended!

Photo of mothman
4.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Jeff and Daniel for helping me get this one.

Poured into Lost Abbey Stemware

Pours 1 finger of pink hued whitehead. Great retention leaving some fairly thick lace for a wild. Color is a clear peach hued ruby head. Very nice looking beer.

Aroma: The cab grapes are very apparent giving it a wine like nose. Has notes of strawberries and oak as well. Very funky. I would go with horseblanket on this one. Sour notes all around. Reminds me of the other LA sours. Sweet and funky.

Taste: A sweetness at first with the sour kicking in quickly. Lots of fruits here. Peaches, strawberries, cherries, and grapes all show. This is mouthpuckering sour. Lots of funk. Leather and horseblanket. Oak, spices, and lemon zest also show. It is acidic, but in a good way.

Mouthfeel: Very sour. Mouthpuckering goodness. A bit fizzy from the carbonation, but not bad. A lighter bodied beer. Ends a bit dry with slight notes of brett.

Overall, another great sour from Lost Abbey. These guys continue to dominate the american sour world. Great appearance, great nose, great flavor, great feel. It is pretty drinkable for how sour it is. Very happy to have had this one.

EDIT: As I got through my first glass, I tasted more and more grapefruit flavor.

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Veritas 007 from The Lost Abbey
99 out of 100 based on 150 ratings.