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Veritas 007 - The Lost Abbey

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BA SCORE
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150 Ratings
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Ratings: 150
Reviews: 71
rAvg: 4.52
pDev: 7.52%
Wants: 315
Gots: 30 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: largadeer on 02-08-2010)
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Photo of Doodler
4.45/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 bomber. Pours a hazy light pink. Decent head with nice lacing. Nose is lemony, with sour grape notes and a bit of funk. Taste has white grapes, lemon zest and a cran-apple flavor finish. Tart, but balanced. Mildly carbonated. Had the latest 3, found this one the most sour of the batch..

Doodler, Sep 07, 2011
Photo of DenverLogan
4.4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big tart, rich and musty aroma, amber-pinkish color. My pour had some particulates as it was one of the last poured. Very rich, mouth puckering tart, funky, sour grapes, lemon, lime...slight dry finish. Darker than the 08...has held it's body and flavor very nicely with the years. Complex and enjoyable.

DenverLogan, Sep 04, 2011
Photo of billab914
4.45/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle into a tasting glass. It poured an amber orange-ish color with a bit of a ruby tint to it. A thin white head formed a ring around the edge of the glass.

The aroma is tart, funky and sour with a moderate fruity sweetness coming through. I get some raspberry and grape to the fruitiness. A little sharp with some musty notes to it as well.

The taste is very sour and tart right off the bat. Some sour, fruity raspberries come out with a musty, funkiness in the finish. Very tart and sour overall, but the fruity, slightly sweet notes really give it something special.

The mouthfeel is thin with carbonation being high. Overall it was an excellent sour beer. Lots of tart, funky, sourness without being overly sharp and acidic. The fruity, raspberry flavors were enough to come through with some great flavors themselves, but also not overpower or add too much sweetness. This was definitely one of the highlights of the night, excellent beer overall.

billab914, Aug 11, 2011
Photo of thagr81us
4.68/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Massive thanks goes out to beeruser for sharing this one with myself and funkydelic during one of our weekly tastings! A massive want of mine... Served from bottle into a Mikkeller flute. Poured a deep orange with a minimal white head. Maintained decent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, sour, tart, BIG funk, and fruit. The flavor was of sweet malt, sour, tart, massive funk, grapes, and wood. It had a medium feel on the palate with high carbonation. Overall this brew was effing excellent. How good you might ask??? I could do a line of this... No seriously, there is a picture of this. This was one of the best brews that I had tasted at the time when I had it. However I have gotten to try better brews now. This one was also at another tasting and was a big hit there as well. Definitely worth the effort on tracking this one down as the flavor is very nice and complex. A definite must try if you have not before, and if you have, you already know why I'm saying this...

thagr81us, Jun 28, 2011
Photo of mikesgroove
4.47/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The pour was decent. A light pink in color with a huge head of white that came up over the top to a height of around an inch before dropping back down to earth with little in the way of lacing. Aroma was wonderful though. Nice touches of raspberries, hints of light cherry and a touch of sour apples as well. Really quite nice, and very light and refreshing. Smooth and light flavor here as well. Not especially sour, but people need to realize a wild ale does not need to be sour. Anyway. Cherries and Raspberries dominate here, light touches of grape skin, apples and a smooth, and light sugary note to it as well. Light feel and nice prickly carbonation give it an almost champagne like feel, but the drinkability remains very high.

mikesgroove, Jun 22, 2011
Photo of monsterzero
4.25/5  rDev -6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle poured into my Hill Farmstead glass. Shared this one with a couple of BA's after the Hill Farmstead 1st Anniversary Party.

A: Orange, pink, purple, brownish-amber color with little to no head.

S: Citrusy.. grapes, lemon, grapefruit and raspberry. Lots of funk and acidic sourness.

T: Intense sour flavor. Lot's of the citrusy flavors as described in the aroma. Also taste some mild earthiness and oak.

M: Medium-bodied with good carbonation. Very sour.. very comparable to a Warhead.

O: Fantastic beer.. will be saving my last bottle for a very special occasion.

monsterzero, May 31, 2011
Photo of Jwale73
4.15/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Broken out at our epic LA tasting on 5/7/11 (can't remember who brought this one). Served in a Sinners tulip. Pours a lovely pinkish-orange - no head, just a thin tight band around the shoulders. Nose starts off mild - slightly acidic, a little musty and expresses a trace of horse blanket. As the brew warms, it takes on a slightly medicinal quality and there's a hint of manure and a slightly plasticy character. Taste is salty, tart, and citrusy - it's really hard to tease out all the flavors, but it's pleasantly sour with a trace of cork that comes out towards the back. Mouthfeel is light in body with a lively effervescing carbonation that stimulates the salivary glands along the sides of the cheeks (I can't stop from salivating). There's a residual dryness that lingers at the back of the throat in between quaffs. All and all, a very complex and tasty sour somewhat reminiscent of something from Cantillon. A pretty top notch American Wild I have to say.

Jwale73, May 10, 2011
Photo of JAXSON
4.25/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From a bottle, pours a slightly hazy salmon pink with a white head that randomly explodes up then violently shoots down. Nose is signature Lost Abbey Funk and tight brett, acidic citrus fruits, perhaps light raspberry, lightly vinous. Flavor profile is nice, and while acidic, it's not so distracting as it is with a lot of other Lost Abbey sours. Burning going down the throat though. Some tight, sweaty brett, lemon and orange pulp, sour. Brings some of the sangria quality of the v006. Somewhat vinous but not overly so, which is nice. This is quality stuff.

JAXSON, Apr 20, 2011
Photo of pwoods
4.6/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to doggnate for sharing the bottle.

A: Pours a tangerine orangish color. Moderate head with some lacing.

S: Nice tart fruitiness. Bit of funk. Some oakiness and leathery notes.

T/M: Nice sour and tart flavors. Fruitiness and nice vinous grapes notes. Vey dry and pretty puckering. Oak is very light but the dryness furthers the leather. Good carbonation.

D: Tasty ass beer. Very dry and complex.

pwoods, Apr 01, 2011
Photo of sweemzander
4.83/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL corked and caged bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a pale blush orange color with some nice white foam and bubbles.

(S)- A nice dry funk and sour profile. Acidic and sour with subtle fruits. Just a sexy earthy lactic funk and acidity.

(T)- Sour power! This is a powerhouse of acidity and sour fruits. A nice earthy clay and lactic funk to it. This is what I like to see!

(M)- A crisp carbonation level. Sourness is on the extreme, but oh so wonderful! Acidic and lactic funk.

(D)- Perhaps one of the most sour beers I have ever had in recent memory. A great wild with that sourness able to peel paint. So good though.

sweemzander, Mar 22, 2011
Photo of bs870621345
4.83/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Shared with jon (TheRealDBCooper)

Pours a pink, amber, orange, brown color with a small head. Leaves a little bit of lacing down the glass. Its a beautiful colored beer, unfortunately no real lacing.

Smell is of grapes, oak, lemons, vinegar, herbs, orange, grapefruit, brett funk, and plenty more. Its really fantastic with everything going on.

Tastes of everything in the smell. Brett, lemons, oak, grapes and the citrus up front, funk and oak in the middle, with an after taste of light vinegar, brett funk, lemons (and other citrus) with a lingering brett and acid aftertaste.

Mouthfeel is moderate with champagne like carbonation. Would be excellent with food- just palate clearing.

Overall, its a great beer. I wish I had another bottle, but LA did a great job with this one. I am impressed with the west coast sours.

bs870621345, Mar 19, 2011
Photo of DefenCorps
3.68/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks, Devin!

A hazy pink with a dense, white head that rises briefly before falling off to a ring, this looks pretty good. The nose is quite excellent. The grapes are quite noticeable with a ripe, fruity, berry-like bouquet. Quite integrated with the sourness too, there's a blend of oak, lemon rinds, a little acetic and a moderate lactic sourness. The palate opens super sharp and sour, so intense that I can't take too big a sip. Fruity, dry, moderately grape-like, this is doesn't have the vinous quality a beer like Vigneronne has (especially in its youth). Moderately and with plenty of lemon rind bitterness and sourness on the finish, this is a little too aggressive for my liking. Unbalanced in that the the sourness doesn't tie things together, it is merely an end in itself. It is also over-carbonated, and doesn't seem to be particularly well-structured or conditioned. Still, decent and enjoyable.

**Edit 01 July 2012**
Thanks, Matt. This blend has grown to be increasingly nasty every time I've had this, and the trend continues. Tastes sour with a moderate grape character, poor structure and flavors. Disappointing.
3/3/3

DefenCorps, Dec 22, 2010
Photo of aerozeppl
4.47/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured a hazy golden color with a touch of orange thrown in. Really nice looking beer.

S: The nose was awesome. Sour right up front with lactic acid. A touch of funk. The grapes came across nicely. Little bit of citrus thrown in. I was surprised by the amount of fruit in the nose.

T: Sour right up front and it never loosens it's grip. Really intense sour balanced out by some bret. The grapes are there but you get more of a citrus taste something like the rind of a lemon or grapefruit.

M: Nice and dry body. The bugs really ate this one down. The carbonation was high but it really worked.

D: This beer would make a great substitute for champagne during New Years. The sourness did become a little overwhelming after a few glasses but I drank my way through it. Really nice beer.

aerozeppl, Nov 28, 2010
Photo of stakem
4.47/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to CaptinRedBeard for sharing this brew on 11/13/10.

Poured into a mini snifter, veritas appears a lightly hazed peachy color. A cap of white head appears composed of fairly large bubbles that recede to a ring of bubbles around the inside of the glass. A light swirl revives the cap.

The aroma of this brew smells of funky goodness with notes of cheese and some earthy tones. A light fruitiness almost reminescent of strawberry is evident before the aroma of Brett takes over with a solid nose of wet leather. Once warm, this brew picks up indications of the woodsy oak aging.

The taste is funky with an acidic sourness. This is a bone dry offering. Big salivation factor here, it seemingly removes the moisture right from your tongue and makes you pucker. A light cheesy flavor that moves to more of a brett'd quality. After taste of fruit skins, lightly bitter with a funky and earthy quality, it's oaky and tannic.

Light in the feel with a bold amount of carbonation that really pops in the mouth. Bone dry finish with a bit of piercing oaked flavor. Despite the aggressive flavors of this brew it was a delight to drink and excessively drinkable. I never could have guessed this was 8% abv.

stakem, Nov 23, 2010
Photo of drabmuh
4.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Beer is golden and mildly hazy with a thin head that disappears quickly leaving a halo of bubbles at the edge of the glass, minimal lacing.

Beer has a strong grape aroma with some acetic and lactic sourness. The primary winner here is grapes.

Beer is thin and nicely carbonated on the palate. It tastes really nice. Again, there is ALMOST too much fruit in here, its not overpowering but its really fruit forward. I really like this beer. Its a nice sour beer. I'd have more, if that were possible.

drabmuh, Nov 12, 2010
Photo of woosterbill
4.35/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from multiple consecutive pours at NotF '10.

A: Slightly hazy ruby-orange body with an inch of super-fine off-white head. Good retention and some light lace. Splendid.

S: Huge bacterial sourness leads things off, backed up nicely by a rich array of tart berry notes - raspberry, cranberry, cherry, and red grapes are all noticeable. Dry funk rounds things out. In a word, amazing.

T: Ass-puckeringly sour. The fruits are pushed to the very tail end, where they meld with the intense sourness in a delectable finish. Not as complex as the nose, but still great. I do love a truly sour sour.

M: Solidly medium body with soft, light carbonation. Nice.

D: Too intensely sour to be truly drinkable, but, again, I'm loving it. I'd kill for the chance to kill a bottle alone, but I'd rather share one.

Notes: This was the first beer I went for after getting in the door, and it was quite possibly the best one I drank all night. It was certainly the most sour, and yet had great fruit and funk components to keep me interested as well as puckered. Great beer, plain and simple.

Cheers!

woosterbill, Nov 08, 2010
Photo of kingcrowing
4.3/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at NotF poured into a sampling glass. Reviewed from notes.

Pours red with almost no head, light white lacing. Nose is sweet and tart and funky.

Taste is really tart and sharp, super crisp and funky. It's got a light mouthfeel with a really fine bite at the end, really tasty and easy drinking, one of the highlights of the event.

kingcrowing, Nov 07, 2010
Photo of ptykozoon
4.21/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours an immensely beautiful golden sap color. Glowing candy orange in the light. Head dissipates fast with islands of foam and a ring of lacing. One of the prettiest beers I've ever seen actually.

Smell is pungent sour grape with citrus, cherry, strawberry undertones.

Taste is not quite as dramatic as the smell, but very good nonetheless. The aforementioned smells along with lemon sourness make this quite an exceptional drink.

Dry, bubbly mouthfeel. Very good.

A beautiful, aromatic, tasty beer with decent complexity and a refreshing finish make this a worthy adversary to the best sours out there.

ptykozoon, Oct 24, 2010
Photo of glid02
4.25/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle at Monk's Cafe, brought up from the cellar by Tom.

Pours a slightly hazy pinkish-ruby red color with a 1.5-finger whitish-pink head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of tart berries with moderate amounts of funk and lighter amounts of oak.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Very tart berry flavors kick things off and are joined by hints of lactic sourness. Midway through the sip the berry flavors fade a bit, tempered by tannins from the oak. Right before a crisp and very tart ending solid amounts of funk come into play.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with active carbonation.

Drinkability is also good. I finished my glass without any problems and could have another.

Overall I was expecting more from this beer. It looks great and tastes just as good but it's lacking some refinement. There's a lot of complexity but the layers seem to overlap rather than fit into their own spaces. Still, if it weren't for my high expectations I would be very pleased with this beer and it's still worth a shot.

glid02, Oct 23, 2010
Photo of waltonc
4.38/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Got to try this at the CO sour tasting last weekend. Pours copper/pink with big white head. Smells extremely acidic, with notes of various fruits blended together. Taste is extremely sour, with tart fruit - lemon, apple, grapes dominating. Some funk in here, but it's restrained. This actually reminds me a bit of Veritas 006. Body is medium with prickling high carbonation. Another great entry in the Veritas series.

waltonc, Oct 08, 2010
Photo of kbutler1
4.55/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle, thanks to mothman for sharing.
Pours a copper amber color with maybe a slight pink tinge. White head that laces well on the glass. Some sediment floating around. Sour lemon tart aromas along with some minimal oak and funk notes. Sweet light fruit flavors of strawberry, peach, and grape at first that then is followed by a pretty tart sour lemon taste. Light mouthfeel with some good carbonation. A very well done beer in my opinion.

kbutler1, Sep 20, 2010
Photo of mothman
4.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Jeff and Daniel for helping me get this one.

Poured into Lost Abbey Stemware

Pours 1 finger of pink hued whitehead. Great retention leaving some fairly thick lace for a wild. Color is a clear peach hued ruby head. Very nice looking beer.

Aroma: The cab grapes are very apparent giving it a wine like nose. Has notes of strawberries and oak as well. Very funky. I would go with horseblanket on this one. Sour notes all around. Reminds me of the other LA sours. Sweet and funky.

Taste: A sweetness at first with the sour kicking in quickly. Lots of fruits here. Peaches, strawberries, cherries, and grapes all show. This is mouthpuckering sour. Lots of funk. Leather and horseblanket. Oak, spices, and lemon zest also show. It is acidic, but in a good way.

Mouthfeel: Very sour. Mouthpuckering goodness. A bit fizzy from the carbonation, but not bad. A lighter bodied beer. Ends a bit dry with slight notes of brett.

Overall, another great sour from Lost Abbey. These guys continue to dominate the american sour world. Great appearance, great nose, great flavor, great feel. It is pretty drinkable for how sour it is. Very happy to have had this one.

EDIT: As I got through my first glass, I tasted more and more grapefruit flavor.

mothman, Sep 19, 2010
Photo of Gueuzedude
4.25/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The beer is a slow gusher that is easy to keep on top of. A steady pour into my large Tripel Karmeliet tulip produces a three finger thick, largish bubbled, pale, off-white colored head. As the head slowly subsides it leaves some layered lacing patterns on the sides of my glass. The beer is a murky amber hue (with some chunks apparent) that shows a very chunky, pink / pale-amber color when held up to the light. The aroma smells of very tart berries and spicy / woody oak from afar. A closer inspection has me noticing notes of blackberries, perhaps a touch of tart cherry, a solid lactic sourness and some fruity acidity too, all of these up front. Towards the finish of the nose there is a solid oak structure that contributes aromas of dusty wood shavings, a touch of vanillin, some Bourbon-like oak spiciness, as well as a mellow oak character. Funky aromatics of musty clay, a hint of musky animal B.O., a hint of underlying overly ripe farmhouse cheese, moldy mushroom aromatics and even a hint of urea. After a particular intense round with the nose signature Brettanomyces notes really start to come out; full on butyric acid musk / goat character, phenolic soaked cotton-balls and sweat-dried cured leather notes add a complexity, though underlying and dank quality to this beer's aroma.

A very prickly carbonation couples with a bracing sourness that is mostly huge-lactic, but also has a sharp, acetic edge to it; the combination of the carbonation and the sourness make my mouth pucker up quite well during my first sip. My seconds sip isn't quite so mouth puckering, but the ample oak-influence also tends to accentuate this with an astringent, tannic, raw woodiness that isn't too over-the-top. The oak definitely plays a secondary role to the acidity here, but it is easily the second most noticeable flavor. By contrast the grapes and base beer play a much, much more subdued role than either of these two flavors. After some time the sourness couples with other notes to bring out some flavors of raspberries, some Chardonnay like grape character (the oak seems to bring this out a bit). Spicy, peppery, woody oak notes add some bite to the finish that serves the hop role of a more traditional beer. With the generic 8%abv label that the Veritas beers get stuck with it is hard to know how strong this beer actually is, while it is a sipping beer, it drinks like a light enough strong-sour, sort of a big brother to a Lambic.

My second pour of this beer sees me noticing an almost Kool-Aid-like fruitiness that has overtones of tropical fruit and a big strawberry component; strangely this is only noticeable if I smell this non-directly, as a direct snort of the nose sees me mostly noticing oak and sourness. The flavor actually picks up more fruitiness too; actually if I lick my lips after taking a sip I can even taste the strawberry flavors directly; but there is definitely more of a bright, berry fruit character (with fruit-punch or perhaps even tropical fruit overtones to it) noticeable in my second pour. The sourness and oak seems to become more balanced as well (though this might be attributable to palate fatigue, but I don't think this is entirely the case).

There is a definite sour edge to this beer that is more than Lactic acid in character, but I am not sure it is acetic acid; if it is acetic acid it is an extremely soft touch, one that works quite well here (though it might just be malic or other acid character from the grapes). I can't believe how dirty this beer looks, even leaving the beer in the bottle for 30 seconds after pouring it was enough to stir up lots of floaties and chunks into my first pour; luckily this does not seem to have affected the flavor or aroma much. The up front berry character isn't nearly as noticeable in the flavor as it is in the aroma, which is a bit of let down. In general the aroma is more complex and interesting than the flavor, but if you like sour beers this will definitely please you no matter what. It is definitely worth waiting to let this beer warm up significantly as a more expressive fruit character become noticeable, more importantly the balance and finesse of this beer improves impressively and it goes from being merely enjoyable to fantastic.

Gueuzedude, Sep 16, 2010
Photo of jrallen34
4.33/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

HUGE thanks to Sean for surprising me and bringing this over...Pours a tangerine pink with a lot of white carbonation, most interesting color I've seen for a sour...The aroma is sour candy start to finish, its not super complex but really nice tartness from start to finish...The taste is also sour from start to finish but super easy to drink. Gives you exactly what you from a sour, almost a sessionable sour.

jrallen34, Aug 15, 2010
Photo of jminsc76
4.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Courtesy of alexd3891.

Into a tulip, pours a soapy head atop a reddish/rosey body, exhibiting some thick legs as I tilt the glass. The head reemerges nice and thick upon agitation, and the overall aesthetic is very pleasing.

Aromas exhibit an overall acidic bouquet, with slightly floral notes nearly tickling the nose hairs. Upon additional whiffs I smell some berries and a little bit of perfume.

So smooth in the flavor department, like drinking (as alexd3891 describes) under-ripe strawberries mixed with tart champagne, cabernet franc, and smooth acidity. Yep, this is sour complexity done right.

The mouthfeel is thin, light, and includes the expected stick icky feeling typically associated with Bretty beers.

Overall, worth its rarity in gold. It could use just a teeney bit more refinement (i.e., aging) but all of the right elements are there for near perfection.

jminsc76, Aug 06, 2010
Veritas 007 from The Lost Abbey
99 out of 100 based on 150 ratings.