Framboise De Amorosa - The Lost Abbey

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Ratings: 915
Reviews: 227
rAvg: 4.34
pDev: 8.76%
Wants: 468
Gots: 227 | FT: 14
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California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: largadeer on 02-09-2010

Framboise de Amorosa is our first foray into the world of raspberry beers. It begins as Lost and Found ale and is sent into freshly emptied red wine barrels. The beer spends over a year in the wood during which time it is spiked with three additions of raspberries.

The first sip produces a sweet start with a long drawn out sour finish. Some of the sweetness from the raspberries comes out before acidic notes join the mix. On the back end of the beer is a smoothing oak character which keeps the beer from becoming dull.
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Ratings: 915 | Reviews: 227
Photo of JonnyRebel
4.56/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Monk's Kettle, San Fran Beer Week 2014

Photo of Catracho5
4.46/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

375 ml bottle poured into The Lost Abbey Teku glass

A: Dark red brown color with a tan colored head, looks cloudy, not much light penetrating, lots of carbonation streaming off the bottom, no lacing.

A: Sour, tart, vinegar, sour apple, not picking up any alcohol. I've tried a few sours and this one has a very distinct aroma, I wonder if it's the raspberries, very nice aroma.

T: Big sour, tart, sour apple flavors up front, very dry, definitely picking up the raspberry tartness, some slight wood flavors at the end, gets a little bitter as it warms but still sour, very nice flavors.

M: Very carbonated, almost like a soda, very dry, dryness bleeds into the gums, very strange.

O: This is a really good beer, very nice sour, lots of flavors going , definitely worth the $15 I paid too bad there was only one bottle, I will be on the lookout for this beer now, you like sours, you gotta try this, cheers!

Photo of ironchefmiyagi13
3.13/5  rDev -27.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2011 vintage. Straight up tomato juice.

Photo of hopflyer
4.1/5  rDev -5.5%

Strong on the tartness up front and full of raspberry for sure. Tames a bit later on but keeps a pinch of sour throughout. Medium to high carbonation.

My first sour and I guess these take some getting used to. Different than anything I've had for sure but interesting

Photo of obiwan_k3n00bi
2.75/5  rDev -36.6%

Mediocrity at it's finest.

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.49/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

a beer i have missed the opportunity to try on many occasions, so a real treat to finally encounter it again. i was taken aback by its dark color, so may framboise beers are just pale wheat bases with the fruit. this appears to be a rich brown ale, deep and rich looking, with a red accent from the fruit. not what i expected but very cool. the nose on this one is a great mix of chocolate malt from the base beer and tart freshness from the berries, i am surprised how tart they really are, rising above the sweet richness of the brown ale base, which is quite robust on the grain front, toasted and desserty. the bacterial aspect of this is cool too, it seems to exacerbate the intensity of the fruit, and brings a series pucker to the finish of this. the malt chocolate thing comes back a touch, and it feels like a nice valentines day dessert before the acidity washes it out. the lost abbey is famous for a reason, this is the only beer of its kind i have ever tasted, and think it is more than worthy of its high praise. as flavorful a beer as any.

Photo of ianw87
5/5  rDev +15.2%

This is my favorite raspberry sour I've ever had.

Photo of rlee1390
4.24/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A-Black in the glass with a one finger off white head that doesn't last long.

S-Oak and raspberries. Lots of sweet raspberries. Nice funky notes as well.

T-Oak and raspberries, lots of raspberries, but the flavor is spot on. Nice funk, mild tartness in the finish.

M-Lighter, semi dry finish, nice carbonation.

O-A good sour that has the raspberry flavor down.

Photo of Nugganooch
4.36/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

On tap at Pizza Port Carlsbad – 06/28/2014
Full pour – Belgium Tulip glass

A: Dark nut brown amber body with some maroon like tones. Murky look however with a bubbly carbonation visible and feeding into a nice thick off white head. Great retention displayed here along with some light streamers of stick that run the glass in a broken track manner.

S: Smells of sour cherry with a raspberry balsamic vinaigrette. Cidery and acetic. I would say it is more vinegar than fruit here. There is some malt sweetness there and a subtle damp woodsy musk to it. Very nice but I would have liked some more pronounced raspberry in the nose. Perhaps the bottled version will reveal more here.

T: Heavy on the sour cherry and balsamic vinegar with layers of browned malts mixed in providing some savory balance to all the sourness. More so than most wild ales I have sampled so far but it works really well here. I only get some muted raspberry puree in the background which is a little disappointing. Although it does taste ripely fresh it just seems the Flanders Red character wins over. Has a healthy sourness however it’s not bracingly so with just a touch of lactic acidity there. Not incredibly funky at all really. I get some oaky tannins and a touch of green earthy hop bitterness mid way. Has a great balance to it and the alcohol is kept well disguised throughout. Finishes with a tinny metallic note and a flourish of fruity sourness.

M: Moderate fill with plenty of frothy carbonation from the tap. Good sour pucker on the palate with a nice drying at the finish. Light tannin astringency. Fairly clean and balanced in body.

D: Still just starting to explore Wilds but this was a real nice find on tap. A little heavy on the vinegar but with some great sour cherry and raspberry notes and just the right amount of acidity. Probably won’t be my most favorite sour ale but has some great balance and depth of character. One of Lost Abby better concoctions I would say. Makes me a little less gun shy to go grab some bottles now.

Photo of Axnjxn
4.35/5  rDev +0.2%

Terrific american sour. raspberries are huge and apparent. extremely unique and awesome. sourness is perfect. oak is there and balances it well. would drink this everyday.

Photo of slackattack
4.41/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours an odd muddy river brownish red. Champagne head. Nose is raspberries, muscadine grapes, and a little funk. Taste is raspberry, sour cherry, and lots of delicious. Dry, carbonated body, again not unlike a champagne. This is one of my favorite sours that actually tastes like the fruit it claims. Wife picked this one out and she gets 2 thumbs up.

Photo of kdb150
4.69/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 2 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Served in a white wine glass from a sixtel at Nodding Head.

A - this is one ugly beer. A murky, cloudy dark reddish-brown, poured with a finger or so of brown-ish head that from the top looked like algae on a pond. Very uninviting.

S - Take a whiff, though, and it significantly brightens the experience. Lots of raspberries, along with the sour, funky brown ale base that Lost Abbey does so many fantastic things with.

T - Wow. When asked how he got so much raspberry flavor into this beer, Tomme deadpanned "I added a lot of raspberries." Intense raspberry flavor throughout every sip, along with moderate sourness, oak, and caramel maltiness. The raspberry overload was neither cloying, nor too sweet, nor too tart. All of the flavors work in harmony, and nothing overpowers despite the intense fruit presence. Amazing.

M - Not too thick, not too thin, this stays on your palate long enough to deliver, but doesn't stick around forever, inviting another sip. The sourness does not overwhelm.

O - this is just about the best fruit beer I've ever had, and certainly the best American-made fruited sour I've tried. Simply a masterpiece.

Photo of Jonada
4.55/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Capone's during Philly beer week. Served in a 5.5 oz nonic glass.

Appearance: Pours a dark red with some hints of brown and about a finger of a light pinkish head.

Smell: Big fruit character. Raspberry, hugely jammy, strawberry, fruit leather, slight breadiness, and lacto.

Taste: Raspberry, sour cherry, fruit leather and lacto. Underlying maltiness is present as well.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a soft creamy mouthfeel. Medium levels of gentle carbonation. No alcohol presence. Really nice.

Overall: Another excellent one from Lost Abbey. I had this side by side with Duck Duck Gooze and Cuvée de Tomme and this may have been my favorite of the bunch. Definitely worth seeking out if you can get your hands on it.

Photo of macrosmatic
4.33/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Thanks to eyebereej for sending this particular bottle! Reviewed from notes. Poured from 375 mL bottle into a Peg's snifter.

A: Deep hazy red with lots of visible carbonation and a two-finger foamy off-white head.

S: Tart, acetic, and fruity - sour cherries and raspberries - with moderate funk undertones.

T: Significant tartness up front. I get both acetic and lactic in near-equal balance. Sour raspberries, some funk, and a bit of barnyard. Finishes fairly dry with the lingering sourness.

M: Medium to a bit light-bodied. Good carbonation sensation. It seems a little hot for the style, but the ABV is higher than many similar beers - and it doesn't affect drinkability.

O: This was very good. I felt like it wasn't quite as complex as the best fruited sours, and the increased alcohol heat seemed a little out of place. But still quite enjoyable.

Photo of homebrew311
4.3/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Served from bottle at FoBAB.

Pours a nice deep clear ruby red with purplish head. Nose is pungent with bright notes of raspberry. Heavy fruit paired with some balsamic vinegar notes present on nose with some mild earth at the end. The taste is a slightly tamed down version of the nose. Raspberries are all over the place balancing between fruity sweetness and acidic tartness. Moderate carbonation with a somewhat fizzy mouthfeel. Overall, this was one of the highlights for me at this years FoBAB. The balance is great and the raspberry character is strong.

Photo of jordanimal
4.05/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a brownish red haze, off white head that dies down slow but not rapidly, has nice carbination and smells tart like raspberries and cherries. Taste is sour, not quite puckering with a mouthfeel a little thicker than other framboise, upfront sour to raspberries to an almost caramel malt, maybe a little barrel? This one goes down quick and I definitely appreciate the higher abv in regards to the style. A lot of raspberry, acid going on balanced with the barrel on the back end.

Photo of DmouthCaliBrewz
4.18/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a crystal red wine glass

A: Pours a slightly murky reddish brown with a two finger head that froths up and recedes to an even thin film after a few minutes.

S: Tart raspberry, vinegar, oak. Sour fruits and honey.

T: Sharp tartness up front, immediately supporting a bouquet of both sour and sweet fruits alike. Tart raspberries and an acetic vinegar pucker you up at first, but then give way to a sweet raspberry and oaky serenade that makes you forget how much your rectum just clenched. An initial jolt of sour and acidity that is immediately rounded out by a subtle fruit sweetness and a mellow oak and honey in the middle, maybe even a hint of chocolate. The vinegar comes back towards the finish though, and the experience ends puckeringly sour and wet, leaving an acidic tang.

M: Slightly sticky and a mellow carbonation. Definitely not flat abbey style, they got this one just right.

O: Really enjoyed this one. Seemed to get more sour as the glass got lower. I was in the mood for a complex and very tart sour, and oh boy did I get one. Good job Tomme and friends, yet another keeper.

Photo of VelvetExtract
4.55/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

A-Pours a deep, dark ruby/crimson. Thinner head is pleasantly pink but is sadly crumbles upon itself and leaves thin remnants.

S-Concentrated raspberries. Jammy yet tart. A mix between sweet berry and unripe berry. The oak is just as impressive. It plays along with the raspberries. Tart raspberry strudel. There is a lingering earthy/dirt element to the nose too.

T-I am a raspberry lover. This is a killer raspberry sour. The tartness is clearly there but I am just as impressed with the ripe/sweet raspberry notes. Sweet and sour raspberry and even blackberry combo is delectable. Then comes the sneaky okay notes which only further serve the overall flavor. As it warms I get a really neat chocolatey note as well. Reminds me of a Flanders Oud Bruin.

M-Has some body to it. No booze. Tartness sticks to my lips. A bit sticky.

O/D-One of my more sought after beers. What a beaut! I feel very happy 'unchecking' this from my Wants list. Jesus, I love raspberry sours.

Photo of spicelab
4.4/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

375mL bottle. 2011 vintage. Previously tried at a tasting where 2/3 of the bottle was lost to gushing. Do remember it was a pretty yummy 20mL..

After resorting to a bottle opener to salvage the sheared cork, pours a glowing mahogany amber with a large but airy ochre head that falls with audible speed to a collar. Decent bead. Looks lovely.

Nose has a gorgeous leathery tartness which contains the abundant raspberry presence nicely. The raspberry character is juicy, almost sweaty, but far less pungent than it would be without the oak treatment. Acetic, lemony notes give a hint of the base wild ale.

Flavours are even juicier than the nose augured. Big, leathery, musky sour raspberry notes, and plenty of cherry and tart green apple.

Body has decent heft thanks to the barrel treatment and ABV. Oily at first before the modest carbonation cleans it up and rams home the tartness.

Intelligent balance of wild yeast and fruity excess with the tempering influence of the oak treatment. Loved it.

Photo of raynmoon
4.33/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

a: it poured a clear ruby red, then the yeast clouded it up. So it's murky, some floaties and a light pink head. Pretty.

s: wow, you get that acidic, tart characteristic that you'd expect from a sour, but it is backed up by an amazing raspberry presence.

t: very sour, almost TOO sour. The sourness starts off very well, then starts to turn into a strange sort of bitterness that follows down your throat. Has a nice flavor though.

mf: high carbonation, could be a little smoother with the balance of tartness and fruit.

Photo of kojevergas
4.38/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

"Ale aged in oak barrels with raspberries." 7.00% ABV confirmed. 2013 vintage. 12.7 fl oz brown glass bottle with fantastic label art (Lost Abbey does art best) and hood-and-wire cap (aka cage) over a cork acquired at a local beer store and served into a flared stem-snifter/tulip hybrid glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are through the roof given the brewery and style. Reviewed as a framboise because it identifies as such in the name.

Served cold - straight from me fridge - and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

I ended up using pliers to remove the cork; it's wedged in there pretty good. Cork yields a satisfying pop upon removal, and liquid slowly surges upwards - necessitating a pour.

A: Pours a 1.5-2 finger wide head of light pink-white colour. Disappointingly thin, but still frothy. Little creaminess. "Legs" as the head recedes. Retention is above average - about 3 minutes.

Body colour is a dark ruby-red with brownish hues. Nontransparent. Nontranslucent. Some yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Overall, it's not much to look at, but it's to style.

Sm: Definite tart raspberries with a pleasant acetic edge. Marvelous oaky undertones. A bit of plum and unsoured fruit on the back end. Wonderful yeast and bacteria lend it a damn appealing sourness; that's really inviting. Certainly a lively aroma. It's not an inferior framboise with only lactobacillus for sourness; I also get lambicus yeast and spontaneous - if controlled - bacterial notes. A nice sweetness keeps it from coming off too sour. Raspberries dominate, and I love the way the oak complements them. Also getting some light pie crust notes; I can see the Lost & Found base surfacing a bit. A wonderful aroma of fairly high strength. Can't wait to try it.

No hop character or alcohol is detectable.

T: Really tasty and flavorful. Raspberries are prominent with a near perfect presence of tartness and sourness. Has a wonderful acetic body with notes of pie crust and biscuit malt. Also a bit of withdrawn plum in the third act. Sourness/sweetness balance is close to perfect, with a sweet berry quality complementing the sour edge. Nice acidity. Some cherry. I get bacteria, lambicus, and a bit of lacto yeast - all of which work well here. Great integration of the oak barrel as well, with subtle oak guiding the beer and keeping it gestalt. Excellent balance and build for a framboise. Also has superb complexity and subtlety. The rich fruitiness is lovely. A nice blend of ripe fruit with more refined mature berries. Depth of flavour is huge. Flavour duration is high, as is flavour intensity. Really a treat of a beer.

I can't put this one down it's so damn good. My glass is quickly emptying.

No hop character or alcohol comes through. Maltiness is hard to find beneath the sourness - to its benefit.

Mf: Wonderful acidity and bite, with a smooth and wet texture that keeps it refreshing. Very approachable and somehow soft while also puckering. Acetic. Great body and perfect thickness for the style. Carbonation is near perfect - just a biteen overdone, but this will correct with age. Complements the flavour profile wonderfully; the mouthfeel feels custom-tailored to the taste.

Dr: Once again, Lost Abbey demonstrates their mastery over sours. Beers like this explain why Lost Abbey may well be the best brewery in this country. I'd definitely get it again; I just wish the pricetag was more manageable. I'd snap this up on-draught. Obscenely drinkable, and the ABV never comes through. I could drink this all night. Ridiculously good. Lost Abbey's done it again. Aside from the appearance, this is an almost flawless framboise.

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Photo of BucannonXC5
4.1/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Type: 8-oz. draft
Glass: Tulip
From: KnB Wine Cellars in Del Cerro (San Diego), Calif.
Price: $7.00 (Wednesday deal)
Purchased: Aug. 7, 2013
Consumed: Aug. 7, 2013
Misc.: N/A

Poured a plum, reddish brown color with one finger of gray head when I got it. Light spots lacing on the sides. No retention.

Smelled dark cherries, plum, raspberry, Red-Hooded Slut shot, grape and cranberry.

Tasted even better than the nose. Got raspberry, cranberry, dark cherry, Sweet Tarts and Smarties. So smooth.

Medium body. Oily texture. Average-to-soft carbonation. Long, smooth finish.

I always think this style is good, but this went down easy. So smooth.

Photo of Takahiro
3.21/5  rDev -26%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

A: poured with thin tanned head, opaque brown
S: brett funk, strawberry/berry fruit, some vinegar
T: mild acetic sour upfront, some brett funk that hits your nose in the background, followed by lactic/fruit(raspberry) sour
M: it finishes dry but has lingering sourness
O: OK wild ale. little too much of vinegar (acetic) for my taste.

Photo of Duff27
4.2/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Vivacious of white head, dark red robey tones. Good lacing and head retention.

Tart fresh raspberries. Digging the nose.

More raspberries but not too sweet, dry. Would give it a 6 on the sour scale, puckering.

Higher end of carbonation. Full mouthfeel.

A bit one dimensional but pulls off that one dimension. Thanks for this one kojevergas!

Photo of facundoCNB
4.33/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

a deep burgundy pour almost reminiscent of a port wine, with a thick finger of frothy creme/pink colored head leaving behind thick lacing.. great head retention. the smell is almost vinegar-ish, but i definitely get some dark fruits and berries, some banana as well, and some cedar-like scent. woah what a tart/sour one this is!!! lots of acidic berry-ish flavors mixing in with a ton of wood/barrel taste.. an almost bitter sour hits you immediately after the acidic initial flavor.. this is an incredible sour beer.

medium body with a nice rich creamy feel, high carbonation, and lots of cheek puckering tartness.

i recommend picking this one up. i feel like if i tried this last year i would have hated it, but the more i drink sours/wild ales, the more i can appreciate a beer like this. almost wine-like at times, with a raspberry overall tone, lots of wooden barrel.. lots to enjoy, but again - this is on the vinegary flanders red type style, BUT does have that huge lemony-acidic flavor that overpowers most of everything else!

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Framboise De Amorosa from The Lost Abbey
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